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    12/05/2010 08:50:19
    1. [DAVAR-DEVER] Benjamin Dever (born Center Point, Polk Twp., Linn Co., Iowa in 1889) had a cousin named Grace NEVIN born 1874. What is their reltionship?
    2. Terri Rene DaVar-Howard
    3. MY QUESTION: Benjamin Dever was my direct ancestor. I have found no cousins of his that would be Grace Nevin. Can someone please identify how this family is related? I thought perhaps Elvin Dunbar was the connection, but can find nothing to confirm this suspicion. How are the Nevin and Dever family connected? Here is what I have identified about the Nevin family thus far: Apr 1833 William Nevins is born in Ohio Dec 1833 Elizabeth Daugherty (who will eventually marry William Nevins) is born, either in Ohio or Virginia http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.nevin/81.2/mb.ashx= 1860 James Busic is born to Arthur Busic and (according to the 1925 Linn Co Census) Elizabeth Way. James is identified as Elizabeth Nevins son in at least one census. Around 1860, based on children's births (who is the mother of Inez?) William Nevins and Elizabeth Daugherty married 1826-1862 Inez Nevin is born July 1872 Maude Evelyn Nevin is born April 1874 Grace Nevin is born 1876 William Alexander Nevin is born 22 Jul 1870 Census Wm. Nevins (aged 38), Libby (35)(William's wife), Inez (9), James (9) (This is probably the Busic boy, although here his surname is Nevins) 1885 Census CENTER POINT, IOWA Elizabeth Navin 51 James E Busic 24 Maud E Nevin 12 Gracie M Nevin 10 William A Nevin 8 Louisa J Kirby 56 (relationship to the Nevin family unknown) 1894 Maude marries Elvin Dunbar (is this a variation of DaVar or Dever?) Apr 1896 Elizabeth dies 1900 Census in School District 21, Custer, South Dakota William is living alone with his 2 children, Gracie and William. 26 Aug 1919 in Custer, Custer, South Dakota William Nevin (the father) dies 1920 Census Jefferson, Buchanan, IOWA Record for Ben Dever. In his house were his cousin Grace Nevin, his wife Nellie and two children Lyle (Lisle) and Geraldine. Ben (31), Nellie (26), Lisle/Lyle (5), Geraldine (2) and Grace, the 44 year old cousin, lived in household /family 167/170.

    04/30/2009 02:11:15
    1. Newbie
    2. The Mitchell Mob
    3. for anyone trying to trace the Weir ( De Ver, De Vere, Wier, Weer etc) family from William the Conqueror through to modern day try this link http://www.dagobertsrevenge.com/devere/Genealogies/The%20Duchy%20of%20Angiers.htm it contains the direct link through to my family Kaaron

    06/19/2006 01:35:05
    1. DeVere Family
    2. Joyce
    3. Hello, I'm new to the list and am trying to find the connection of the DeVere family to the Carpenter and Palmer families of New York. My grandfather was Arthur DeVere Carpenter (1866-1958) and his parents were Charles Carpenter and Harriet Palmer, both born in New York as were both of their parents according to the federal census. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Joyce Carpenter Sharpley joycesharpley@comcast.net

    04/09/2005 07:02:14
    1. My Line and John DEVER family photo site
    2. Susan Burgess
    3. John DEVER b. abt 1828 married Mary Lovica ?CONNELLY? b.1845, their daughter Grace Ella DEVER b.1870 (1872?) married 2)Leander William SMITH b. 1869, their daughter Mary Lenora SMITH b. 1906 married Alfred Wilhelm HOFACKER ( changed name to Al William HOFER) b. 1897, their daughter is my mother We just posted our historical family photos for my Dever line on the internet. My husband scanned them from various family photo albums or they were shared by other researchers on the internet. They are located at: http://www.pbase.com/balldee/family_tree_scans Click on the "Smith Dever" photo album then click on a thumbnail of a photo to enlarge it for better viewing. These photos are downloadable by right clicking a photo. They have been compressed and reduced in size for web viewing. If you are interested in a bigger more printable file please click on "comment on this gallery" at the bottom of a page and leave him a message or e-mail him at his address listed in his profile on the site. Make sure you specify which photos you are interested in obtaining. If you have photos connected to this line you would like to contribute to the site please let us know. My genealogy file is at Rootsweb. Living individuals have been deleted from this copy of my file. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=burgess_kimes Susan Kimes Burgess

    06/18/2004 11:40:00
    1. John Dever b. abt 1828 d. abt 1882 Missouri
    2. Susan Burgess
    3. Looking for more information on John Dever. The information I have is almost all family oral history through my grandmother. John Dever was born about 1828. He was a cobbler and boot maker in Missouri. Mary Lovica ?Connelly? was born the 27th of March, 1845 (might be 1847) in Olena, Ohio, the daughter of Robert and Martha ?Connelly?. When a young woman, Mary traveled to Illinois or Missouri and married John Dever. Mary Hofer their grandchild said, "John Dever was twenty years older than my grandmother. She came to Missouri to marry him when her father wrote and told her he had found a good husband for her. Her father would give her a dowry if she came to Missouri and married him. She had a very good life with him." John and Mary had two children, a son, Elmer J. Dever, about 1867 and a daughter, Grace Ella Dever, born the 14th of July, 1870 (might be 1872) in Missouri. In about 1882 at the age of 54, John died of stomach cancer. The doctors said it was from holding the boot against his stomach. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This may be my John Dever family. The ages fit. John's occupation is right and Mary's place of birth goes with what has been told. Mary Lenora (Smith) Hofer said there were only two children born to John and Mary Dever, Elmer and Grace. I have been unable to find this family under any other name close to Dever in the 1880 Census index. There is no Elmer that fits, no other Grace that fits in all of the Missouri index. I have looked under E., G., M., L., Grace, Elmer, Deaver, Dever, Devere, Devor, Daver, Diver, Dover, Beaver, Weaver, Langdon. The 1920 and 1930 Seattle, King, Washington Censuses list Elmer Dever's place of birth as Illinois which also fits this family if Elena is really Elmer. 1880 Census: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp Source Information: Census Place Pleasant Hill, Cass, Missouri Family History Library Film 1254679 NA Film Number T9-0679 Page Number 144C Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace John DEORR Self M Male W 52 ENG Boot And Shoe Maker ENG ENG Mary DEORR Wife M Female W 33 OH Kpng Hse NY OH Elena DEORR Dau S Female W 13 IL At Home ENG OH (Is this really Elmer Dever, a son?) Gracie DEORR Dau S Female W 8 MO At Home ENG OH Susan Kimes Burgess Fremont, CA

    06/18/2004 11:24:49
    1. [DaVar-Dever-List] Web site update
    2. David L. Talbot
    3. Hello my fellow researchers, I have updated my web site containing my family history. About 95% of the people are related in someway to my wife or myself (The others are parents of wives or husbands and such). While it contains the names of living people, no information or pictures are shown. I have only been doing this for a few years. I hope that you will enjoy looking at the information. I am sending this to all the sites I subscribe to, hoping for feed back and new and undated information. If you have pictures of some of these people I would love to have a copy to post. There are over 10,000 pages of data. Here are some of the names and locations, Talbot, Talbott, Talbert, Horn, Horne, Sapp, Coody, Holder, Myers, Mason, Gooden, Ansell, Shazer, Shozer, Huey, Collins, Hickle, Ticsnel, Deavers, Shifflett, Roach, De Vers, Taverner, Neale, Devere, McDaniel, Wood, Dean, Kimble, Batton. Here are some of the areas of the family. Fairfax Co., Va., Rockingham Co., Va., and other parts of Va. Fayette Co., Pa., Uniontown Pa. Georgia, Dodge Co., South Carolina. The web site is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~talbotfamilyhistory/Index.htm David L. Talbot, Sr., PM, PHP, PP TALBOTDL@COMCAST.NET Royal Oak Michigan My main genealogy research is in the (Dean, Deavers, Denty, DeVere, Gooden, Neitzey, Shepherd, Shifflett, Talbot (t), Troth), (Coody, Horn (e), Holder, Jump, Sapp) and (Collins, Hickel, Ticsnel, Myers, Shazer "Shozer", Ticsnel, Huey) if you can help me contact me. My Web Site is located at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~talbotfamilyhistory/Index.htm

    01/27/2004 11:57:08
    1. [DaVar-Dever-List] Erma Lois Maxwell Devers
    2. Researching Emerald Hawley Maxwell and her sister, Margaret Hawley Summerton.

    08/31/2003 05:33:50
    1. [DaVar-Dever-List] Jesse DaVar and Martha Cain [TNCLAIBO-L] Claiborne County History (Jesse died 07 June 1860 in Monroe Co., Indiana)
    2. Brian & TerriRene Howard
    3. To descendants of Jesse and Martha: I am interested in submitting information about this couple to the Claiborne County History book (described below) and am interested in knowing if any of the their other descendants would be willing to either collaborate or send in an article of their own. Sorry for the late notice .... life has been hectic as usual. Terri Rene DaVar-Howard Holland, Michigan PS: Jesse used, or was given, these identified variations of his name Jesse Davar Jesse Davers Jesse Davor Jesse Davors Jessie Deavors Jesse Dever and perhaps Jesse Tate -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TNCLAIBO-L] Claiborne County History Resent-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 15:27:19 -0600 Resent-From: TNCLAIBO-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 17:29:47 +0000 From: Joyce Ramsey <ctn22503@centurytel.net> To: TNCLAIBO-L@rootsweb.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnccths Hi List, Claiborne County Historical & Genealogical Society is doing a new Heritage book. The dead line is July 15. If you had ancestors in Claiborne County before 1850 you would be in our Pioneer family list and could write 1000 words plus 2 pictures free. If your family came after 1850 you can write 500 words and 1 picture free. Also we are going to have a Military Section you can put a picture and 100 words in free. This covers any war and all branches of service. If you would like to put a Tribute to your ancestor or a memorial or business ad you can do this but these cost. If you have questions call Joyce Ramsey 423-626-0500, evenings are the best time to call or e-mail joram@centurytel.net Joyce ==== TNCLAIBO Mailing List ==== If you are having any difficulties with the list please contact the list owner Pamela Burnette at: pburne1063@aol.com Visit the CLAIBORNE COUNTY PIONEER PROJECT at: http//freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ccpp/pioneer/index.htm we have over 82,000 folks from the county identified and waiting for you to find them.

    07/05/2003 05:25:27
    1. [DaVar-Dever-List] WOW!!! the new web site.
    2. David Talbot
    3. WOW!!! The response is over whelming and it is great! To answer the most asked question; I am the old man with the Labrador (her name is Cheyenne, my granddaughter) and my son who has never married (Cheyenne belongs to him). I am trying to respond to the e-mails and posting to the guestbook. I will take some time. I am getting information by the ton. It will take awhile to glean it. I will e-mail responders when I update it. Thanks, to all who responded and the accolades for the web site. I must say that the software I use is Legacy (It was Free for the basic) for my database and it created the web site for me in 10 minutes. I did do some minor changes. It is the best genealogical software package I have ever used and I have used many. It took over 4 hours to upload it on a high-speed connection. (About 100 Meg.) This was very easy to do. Again, thanks to all. David L. Talbot, Sr., PM, PHP, PP TALBOTDL@COMCAST.NET Phone (248) 280-1270 Royal Oak Michigan My main genealogy research is in the (Dean, Deavers, Denty, DeVere, Gooden, Neitzey, Shepherd, Shifflett, Talbot (t), Troth), (Coody, Horn (e), Holder, Jump, Sapp) and (Collins, Hickel, Ticsnel, Myers, Shazer "Shozer", Ticsnel, Huey) if you can help me contact me. My Web Site is located at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~talbotfamilyhistory/Index.htm

    03/07/2003 05:51:57
    1. [DaVar-Dever-List] RE-Send for New Web Site
    2. David Talbot
    3. Sorry to bother you nice people again but I was informed that I left the subject line blank and the receivers might just delete it. So I am re-sending it. Below is the original message. Hello my fellow researchers, I have added a new web site containing my family history. While it contains the names of living people no information or pictures are shown. I have only been doing this for a few years. I hope that you will enjoy looking at the information. I am sending this to all the sites I subscribe to, hoping for feed back and new and undated information. If you have pictures of some of these people I would love to have a copy to post. There are over 6800 pages of data. Here are some of the names and locations, Talbot, Talbott, Talbert, Horn, Horne, Sapp, Holder, Myers, Mason, Gooden, Ansell, Shazer, Shozer, Huey, Collins, Hickle, Ticsnel, Deavers, Shifflett, Roach, De Vers, Taverner, Neale, Devere, McDaniel, Wood, Dean, Kimble, Batton, Daur and Potts. Here are some of the areas of the family. Fairfax Co., Va., Rockingham Co., Va, and other parts of Va. Fayette Co., Pa., Uniontown Pa. Georgia, South Carolina. The web site is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~talbotfamilyhistory/Index.htm David L. Talbot, Sr., PM, PHP, PP TALBOTDL@COMCAST.NET Phone (248) 280-1270 Royal Oak Michigan My main genealogy research is in the (Dean, Deavers, Denty, DeVere, Gooden, Neitzey, Shepherd, Shifflett, Talbot (t), Troth), (Coody, Horn (e), Holder, Jump, Sapp) and (Collins, Hickel, Ticsnel, Myers, Shazer "Shozer", Ticsnel, Huey) if you can help me contact me. My Web Site is located at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~talbotfamilyhistory/Index.htm

    03/06/2003 12:32:06
    1. [DaVar-Dever-List]
    2. David Talbot
    3. Hello my fellow researchers, I have added a new web site containing my family history. While it contains the names of living people no information or pictures are shown. I have only been doing this for a few years. I hope that you will enjoy looking at the information. I am sending this to all the sites I subscribe to, hoping for feed back and new and undated information. If you have pictures of some of these people, I would love to have a copy to post. There are over 6800 pages of data. Here are some of the names and locations, Talbot, Talbott, Talbert, Horn, Horne, Sapp, Holder, Myers, Mason, Gooden, Ansell, Shazer, Shozer, Huey, Collins, Hickle, Ticsnel, Deavers, Shifflett, Roach, De Vers, Taverner, Neale, Devere, McDaniel, Wood, Dean, Kimble, Batton, Daur and Potts. Here are some of the areas of the family. Fairfax Co., Va., Rockingham Co., Va, and other parts of Va. Fayette Co., Pa., Uniontown Pa. Georgia, South Carolina. The web site is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~talbotfamilyhistory/Index.htm David L. Talbot, Sr., PM, PHP, PP TALBOTDL@COMCAST.NET Phone (248) 280-1270 Royal Oak Michigan My main genealogy research is in the (Dean, Deavers, Denty, DeVere, Gooden, Neitzey, Shepherd, Shifflett, Talbot (t), Troth), (Coody, Horn (e), Holder, Jump, Sapp) and (Collins, Hickel, Ticsnel, Myers, Shazer "Shozer", Ticsnel, Huey) if you can help me contact me. My Web Site is located at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~talbotfamilyhistory/Index.htm

    03/06/2003 09:44:55
    1. [DaVar-Dever-List] From today's RootsWeb Review--instructions on board searches...
    2. Brian and TerriRene Howard
    3. (Please remember that many of the RootsWeb Message Boards are gatewayed to mailing lists. This means that when something is posted to a board, it is also posted to the mailing list. When replying to a gatewayed message it is best to reply on the board where the original message was written, just in case the author is not currently on the mailing list where you found the message. TRD-H) GETTING THE MOST OUT OF MESSAGE BOARDS. http://boards.rootsweb.com/ You can search all message boards, search a category, or search only one board by selecting the appropriate button depending upon your location within the board hierarchy. To perform a simple search type in a surname (last name), a keyword, or a phrase, and click GO! In all searches, keywords or phrases will be searched for the closest to the least exact match in that order. For a more specific search click on the ADVANCED SEARCH link. A search of all boards is the default. Complete any or all of the items on the ADVANCED SEARCH form: --FIND MESSAGES CONTAINING: (list a keyword or phrase) --WITH SUBJECT CONTAINING: (searches only message subjects) --BY AUTHOR: (the posters' names will be searched) --POSTED IN THE LAST ____: (select a time period from drop-down menu) --WITH SURNAME: (searches only the Surname Box entries) also offers a check box to use a Soundex search. (For information about Soundex, a special index, see: http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/lesson9.htm). --WITH MESSAGE TYPE: (Select from the drop-down menu: All, Query, Bible, Biography, Birth, Cemetery, Census, Death, Deed, Immigration, Lookup, Marriage, Military, Obituary, Pension, or Will). Searches support trailing wildcards represented by an asterisk (*) following a minimum of the first three letters of the keyword or surname. A trailing wildcard means you cannot begin a search request surname/keyword with an asterisk -- you must start with at least three letters prior to the asterisk. For example: a search for Joh* will find John, Johns, or Johnson. Search operators you may use are the plus (+) sign which may be placed in front of any word to indicate that this word MUST appear in a message for it to be considered a match, and the minus sign (-) which may be placed in front of any term you wish to exclude from a search. A search for '+jones john -paul' will return only those hits that contain the word 'jones' -- provided the word 'paul' does not also appear in the message. The word "john" may or may not appear in the message. Messages that include both 'john' and 'jones' would rank higher in degree of match (relevancy) than those that only include 'jones'. If you search and get no matches, enter less information or search only by a surname or a keyword. 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By searching only for posts with attachments, for example, you can easily locate those messages that include pictures, scanned images, and GEDCOMs. Previously published in RootsWeb Review: Vol. 5, No. 26, 26 June 2002. ==== BOARDS-ADMINS Mailing List ================================= To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Forwarded by Terri Rene DaVar-Howard & Brian Howard We are currently registered to administer the following boards: Boards > Localities > North America > United States > States > Michigan > Counties > Ottawa <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.ottawa> Boards > Surnames > Boomhour <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.boomhour> Boards > Surnames > Cochran <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.cochran> Boards > Surnames > Darland <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.darland> Boards > Surnames > Davar <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.davar> Boards > Surnames > Dever <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.dever> Boards > Surnames > Grote <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.grote> Boards > Surnames > Haight <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.haight> Boards > Surnames > Hendrickson <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.hendrickson> Boards > Surnames > Kirkham <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.kirkham> Boards > Surnames > Otting <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.otting> Boards > Surnames > Van arsdale <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.van-20-arsdale> Boards > Surnames > Vanarsdale <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=surnames.vanarsdale>

    06/26/2002 11:18:28
    1. [DaVar-Dever-L] DNA STUDY -- is THIS surname conducting one?
    2. Brian and TerriRene Howard
    3. Hello All, I apologize to anyone who gets more than one copy of this e-mail. I am considering the pros and cons of participating in this (quoted below) DNA study and am wondering if any other surnames related to my family tree are involved in a similar study? After all, if we "do it" for one family line and can use the same data/fees to research another family line then my husband's thrifty nature may be appeased <grin>. Following the two messages posted to the HOYT list you will find some questions I have sent to the coordinators. Please do let me know if any of the surnames receiving this message are also participating in a DNA study. THANK YOU. Terri Rene -------- Original Message -------- Announcing a HOYT GENEALOGY DNA PROJECT, Coordinator Dan Wharton, pelhamdan@aol.com or telephone 914-738-3722 home. This project will be examining some standard marker genes from the male Y chromosome inherited biologically from father to son, conveniently paralleling the tradition of passing surnames from father to son. This project is designed to answer two basic questions: (1) How closely related, if at all, are the various Hoyt lineages and Hoyt surname variations (Hoit, Hoyt, Haight, Hight etc.)? Do the descendants of John Hoyt and Simon Hoyt have matching Y genes, indicating a recent, common ancestor? (2) What is the ancient history of the Hoyt lineages in Europe and in the British Isles in particular? It is now possible to get fairly good readings from Y chromosome DNA as to male lineage origin from one of three main populations: Ancient resident Briton/Celtic, Anglo Saxon invader, or Norwegian Viking. We are hoping to get representation from many different Hoyt lines in the USA and Europe. The database will be an invaluable resource for Hoyt family researchers finding themselves at a "dead end" and looking for that missing link. Sample collection is accomplished privately at home with simple "cheek scrapers" and samples are sent to the lab through the mail. Results will be made available to all interested parties and identified only by pre-1900 ancestors and their geographical locations. Participant identities will be confidential (e-mail addresses shared only by mutual consent). Cost per participant is estimated to be less than $200, assuming that at least six Hoyts participate in the study. Note that all Hoyt males within your own, extended family would be expected to share the same Y genes so it is most economical to process just one sample from either yourself or one of your male Hoyt relatives and share costs among all interested family members. For more information and answers to any questions you have, please contact Dan Wharton and Marilyn Hoyt at pelhamdan@aol.com or call 914-738-3722 USA. We are looking forward to hearing from you. >Here is an update on the Hoyt DNA study. We now have participation from >Hoyts and Hites and are continuing to get inquiries. This should provide us >with a growing database for comparison of Y genes for all Hoyts and Hites >looking for additional clues on their lineage connections. Still looking for >participation from Haight-surnamed individuals. We also have an excellent >family group rate from the lab doing the analysis of only $99. per person. >For additional information, please contact Marilyn Hoyt and Dan Wharton, >Ph.D. e-mail: pelhamdan@aol.com > > >==== HOYT Mailing List ==== >Hoyt-L Threaded Archives on Rootsweb >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/HOYT > Here are my questions: > Hello, > > Pelhamdan@aol.com wrote: > >>To see an example of an excellent >>surname study using "molecular genealogy," visit the following website: >>http://www.duerinck.com/project.html >> > > I'm very interested in this, but have some questions. I'll pose them > on the > HOYT-L as I suspect the answers would be of interest to others. The quotes > are from the cited website. > >> The purpose of the *** Surname DNA Project is, >> therefore, to perform Y chromosome DNA tests on a sampling of men >> with the >> "***" surname (includes all variants), to calculate the Most Recent >> Common >> Ancestor for those surnames with a significant marker match, and to >> create >> a report describing the results. The report will then be available to all >> our clans worldwide. > >> At the conclusion of the project, the summarized >> results (such as: this clan and this clan are related through a common >> ancestor around 1200 A.D.) will be posted on the *** web site for all >> visitors and the participants of the program to view. The >> participants will >> not be identified by name unless they want to be. The DNA >> participants will >> receive more detailed messages and reports as the project progresses. In >> summary, we are testing so that we may relate all of our variant surname >> clans. The paper trail has run out--let science takeover! I am interested >> in finding out if clans are related to each other, and if yes, how >> long ago >> the common ancestor lived. > > > > Will the coordinators of the Hoyt/Haight study do the same? Will the data > be posted in an understandable format on the internet? Will someone > actually > create a *tree* showing the lineage as identified through the DNA and > commonly > used genealogical records such as birth and death records? If this > report/tree > is created, will it be available without cost or will it be sold? If it is > sold, will the price be the same for participants (persons who have paid > to be a part of the project) as for non participants? > >> I would need 2 males from each clan to provide >> samples. > > > Would this also be true? That is, would I have my two sons tested or would > I have my son and my nephew tested? Is someone going to create a tree and > identify whether or not there are enough participants, or too many <grin>? > >> I will require each participant to sign >> a waiver/release and consent form/letter of authorization allowing me to >> see all test results (in order to keep track of what clans are related). >> The analysis itself, after all samples are collected, takes about 5-6 >> weeks. > > > Again, will the Hoyt/Haight coordinators do something similar? Will > participants > receive a report (in English, not *science-talk*) about their own DNA > sample? > Will those reports be any different from the general report? > >> tell me who your direct ancestors were >> (and the place), going back at least 4 generations, if possible. > > > This sounds good to me, I'd want to include commonly used genealogical > records > such as birth and death records as available. The part of me that > loves books > envisions a well documented manuscript, albeit perhaps a matrix dot > printed > copy <grin>. In some cases folks may need to go back 6 or 7 generations, > though. > >> While it is desirable to test 20 individuals >> at once in order to obtain meaningful results, many of those doing >> surname >> DNA projects are getting 5 to 10 participants--the rest will have to >> be tested >> at a later time, then the results compared. > > > How will the Hoyt/Haight coordinators handle this? What time > commitment are > you making? Will you send yearly reports to the participants and will > there > be additional fees for those reports? > > > Will participants be able to use their DNA reports to identify other > family > lines? My husband is a HAIGHT descendant, if we have our son(s) be the DNA > donor(s) then will I be able to someday use this report to help in my own > genealogy (supposing one of my branches ever gets so organized!). > > Pelhamdan@aol.com wrote: > >>We also have an excellent >>family group rate from the lab doing the analysis of only $99. per person. >> > > Depending on the answers to my questions, I think this is a most > reasonable > cost. Father's Day is coming up, maybe I'll have a DNA test done for > my husband > ... a great, great, great grandson of Ann Mariah Haight (1814-1855). > > > Terri Rene DaVar-Howard

    04/23/2002 04:21:42
    1. [DaVar-Dever-L] New list administrator
    2. Don Knight
    3. Hello all DaVar-Devers list participants, I want to inform you that I am the new list administrator. I have not been a list administrator previously, but I don't see that as a handicap. I have subscribed to the DaVar-Dever list for quite a while and am very interested in the Devers family. If anyone has any ideas on how to expand this list and/or to generate more interest please email me privately at donaldknight1@attbi.com. Thank you. Don Knight

    04/21/2002 06:11:51
    1. [DaVar-Dever-L] 1720 DAVAR in France - with surnames FOURCAUX & RELLOT
    2. Brian and TerriRene Howard
    3. Hello DAVAR researchers. This past week I found a DAVAR on-line, a GeneaNet Posting by Fabienne Nerrriere <fabnerriere@aol.com>, located at: <http://www.geneanet.org/contact.php3?country=fra&region=lor&subregion=f88&lang=en&rech1=DAVAR&rech=davar&source=fabner>. I wrote to Mr./Ms. Nerriere, and below is the responce I recieved. Although I doubt anyone has this woman's family in their database, I am passing the data along as I am thrilled to have found someoene with the name as far back as 1720. Terri Rene DaVar-Howard -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: DaVar Genealogy Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 03:59:20 EST From: Fabnerriere@aol.com To: <brianter@macatawa.org> Hello, Yes, I can tell you more, my Davar is a girl, her forname is Marie-Charlette, she died befor 1748 in Viviers lès Offroicourt, she is married with Nicolas FOURCAUX before 1720, she had one boy, François married 20/2/1748 in Vroville with Anne RELLOT. That's all what we have now, but in summer we are continued bye bye and sorry for my language.

    04/05/2002 12:17:15
    1. Re: [DaVar-Dever-L] James Lysaght, of a daughter
    2. Beryl Edwards
    3. I have just discovered that my computer has been sending out e-mails without my knowledge that are infected with the Magistra.29188 virus. Please accept my apologies if you have been infected too. I hope your virus protection worked for you in this instance. Unfortunately mine did not. I am really sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beryl Edwards" <beryl_edwards@telus.net> To: <DaVar-Dever-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: January 20, 2002 7:22 PM Subject: [DaVar-Dever-L] James Lysaght, of a daughter > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01172709.652709D0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Nothing can equal their happiness.Was she covering up an illigitimate grandchild ? > > > ==== DaVar-Dever Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe to this list, > send an e-mail message to: > DaVar-Dever-request@rootsweb.com for individual messages) > In the subject line & body include only one word: > unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > 3 April 1998 > >

    01/21/2002 02:07:05
    1. [DaVar-Dever-L] James Lysaght, of a daughter
    2. Beryl Edwards
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01172709.652709D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nothing can equal their happiness.Was she covering up an illigitimate grandchild ?

    01/20/2002 01:22:24
    1. [DaVar-Dever-L] John Devers
    2. Don Knight
    3. My apparent ancestor, John Devers died 31 Aug., 1843 in Clinton co., MO per the will date. The administrator was Merit Devers, and one of the securities was Alexander Devers. Another researcher mentioned a Nancy Maret who married a John Devers in Garrard county, KY in 1808. This is very likely the same John Devers. There were a number of members of the Maret family who lived in Clay county area at the same time as the Devers. There are a few Devers descendants with the name Merit, Merrit, etc. John's known sons were Alex, Merit, John Perry, and James. Alexander Devers, born in Crab Orchard, KY in 1814 lived in Missouri; 1840 Clay county, 1850-1870 Gentry county. Alexander spent the entire Civil War in the 1st MO Confederate Brigade. Two of his sons, John Arthur and Alva Merit, were also in 1st MO Confederate Brigade. These brothers plus two more, James M. and Alex Jr., were all likely involved with guerillas; specifically George Todd, and later Oliver Sheperd. James M. Devers was hung by a lynch mob in Richmond, MO for his participation in the Hughes Wasson bank robbery. This James was "captured" in Crab Orchard, KY circa 1868-9. Alex patented land in Gentry county in 1850. A considerable amount of research has been performed on this family by other cousins who would likely share additional data if there is some relationship. Alex was married to Penelope Nicholson and they had a number of other children; Elizabeth, William, Archie, Sarah, Robert, Mary and possibly others. Merit Devers, must have died young. I only find one other document about Merit, a land patent in Gentry county in 1848. John Perry Devers, was born 1826 in Crab Orchard, KY-died 2/17/1873 in Bethany, Harrison, MO. He married Mary Martha Lee about 1847 (would like to find marriage records). John was the sheriff of Harrison county 1856-1860. He owned and operated the Ohio House Hotel in Bethany. Would like to find John in 1850 census. James Devers-might have died young in Kentucky. Are these related? a.. Salem W. Devers born 1835 son of William Dever and Jane Clark, Clinton county, MO. b.. William Devers in 1860 Ray co., MO census. c.. George Devers in 1860-70 Clay co., MO census, born in KY in 1832 d.. James Dever 1870 Jackson co., MO census. e.. John C. Deavor 1870 Clay co., MO census. Another researcher was looking for the following who is most likely related: John Campbell Devers b. 29 Dec 1833 in Garrard Co., KY-d. Lebo, KS June 9, 1915. Moved from Ky in the 1860s to Holt, Clinton, MO. He married Josephine Holt, of Holt, MO in 1867. His first wife's name was thought to be Miranda, Marilla, or Marilda-married in KY, no children. His father's name was William or Billy Devers. There is a William Devers in 1840 Garrard co., KY census. Will be glad to share data, or help any way I can. Thanks. Don Knight

    08/09/2001 04:01:58
    1. [DaVar-Dever-L] Re: Devores in Ohio
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. I'm swamped with work & life ..... does anyone on the DaVar & Dever Genealogy List <DaVar-Dever@rootsweb.com> have any information for this writer? If you respond, please DO send a copy to the list so we can all learn more <smile>. Thanks, Terri Rene DaVar-Howard dldove@banet.net wrote: > Hi. I see you have a lot of Devore ancestry and information. Do you > know anything about a branch of Devores in Ohio? I know that's a broad > question, but I don't have much more information to go with it. My > great-great-grandmother was Emaline/Amaline/Adaline Devore, depending > upon who was writing. She was born ca 1816. I suspect that Devore was > her married name and she married my great-great-grandfather as a widow. > I think her maiden name was Berryman. So far I haven't been able to > find a marriage record for the previous marriage that I'm confident is > hers. > > Thank you very much. > > Debbie Winchell

    03/12/2001 11:22:57