Yep The darnell book is what you need. Your info is listed on page 378. > however, in the line above John's name (which indicates immediate ancestor), > Morgan is given. Whether this Morgan is the son of Dr. David or a later one, > I haven't been able to determine. > It does list Morgan # 2584 as the ancestor that is correct, This Morgan is Dr. Davids son ,, Morgans Son. That info is listed on page 265 The Darnell book would benefit you greatly. It is available from the author via internet. But it is 80.00 but to me its worth it. It is a huge book with all the info you could want in it. You are descended from Dr David Hope this helps Awiusdi