This is very interesting. Do you all have anything on the Climer or Mckinnis clans. Thank you SammieJean Gregory-Fairchild ----- Original Message ----- From: j Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:31 AM To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Some genealogy..... Thanks pal...didn't know those McElroys were railroaders...hmmmm. I did know they got themselves into a mite of trouble in the Revolution tho. <BG> Came running this direction to keep their skins. LOL! jan At 06:00 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: >Jan, > >Try the eastern isle of the UK....Irish....they came later to build the >Railroads out of New England in the 1850's... > >Another story......with the Butlers who built Ira's RR's.....HE can HELP >you with the McElroy's.....ask him...he's got some good history here..... > >Also, check the 'Special' 1850 RR Census......Look to the Benton Co. >Website for an example....... > >Dave > >At 07:05 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > >I only got one of those "Mc's" in my heritage, Dave. <BG> McElroy. Now > >canya do anything with that one?? And be nice. > > > >jan > > > >At 05:29 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > >>YES YOU DO.......but....there's a secret you'll don't know...about > >>'Septs'.....sub-groups <got'cha> ....ignorance is sometimes > >>..Bliss..sometmes it cuts your heart out.........'McRea' for example, is a > >>Sept...of Clan MacKenzie...so are the McLoeds (this is McClouds).........do > >>your homework......not many in the local area have escaped the the Scottish > >>'curse'... > >> > >>Dave > >> > >>At 04:57 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > >> >Wow, Dave! That is interesting! Do you have to be a McKenzie to be in > >> >those charts? All those my folks' stomping grounds, but I don't think I > >> >have a drop of McKenzie blood... > >> > > >> >At 03:18 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > >> >>In the Fall of 1824, a 49 year old Scott, crossed the Tennessee River, >from > >> >>near Erin in what is now Houston Co (that used to be Humphreys Co., and > >> >>then used to be Stewart Co.), and searched-out a new Homestead for his > >> >>family of 6, on Sugar Creek (near current-day Big Sandy) in Benton > County > >> >>(which used to be Barbados, which used to be Virginia, which used to be > >> >>Carolina, which used to be N. Carolina, which used to be Indian >Territory, > >> >>which used to be Humphreys County)......hoping to move his wife and >family > >> >>into a new home by Christmas....... > >> >> > >> >>Just after marring his young Scottish bride of 19, Nancy Beaton, on > >> >>February 13, 1812 in Stewart Co. at Dover., the then 38 year old Malcolm > >> >>McKenzie, joined Gen. Andrew Jackson (when he came thru the area > >> >>recruiting) to fight the British in the War of 1812. Malcolm was > >> >>reportedly 'Killed-in-Action' during the War, and Nancy received a >Widow's > >> >>Pension.....But then, Malcolm made a miraculous recovery from his > 'mortal > >> >>wounds' and returned home to receive only a 'wounded pension' from > the US > >> >>Government for his service...... > >> >> > >> >>Imagine if you would, what it might have been like in 1824, to enter > into > >> >>the Wilderness of then Humphreys County (which just a few years > prior had > >> >>been Indian Territory) and carve-out a new homestead.....alone.....for >your > >> >>wife and 6 kids. > >> >> > >> >>Malcom's parents (Gilbert & Margrette McKenzie) came to Wilmington, N. > >> >>Carolina in December 1774 after a 2 month voyage from Greenock, Scotland > >> >>aboard the ship, Diana. Margrette was pregnant with Malcolm during the > >> >>journey....she gave birth to Malcolm during the trip or shortley after > >> >>arriving in Wilmington. They left Scotland, after being reduced to > >> >>'bleeding' their cattle and drinking their blood to survive.....This is > >> >>another tale in itself...... > >> >> > >> >>Gilbert fought in the Revolutionary War with the British.....as did the > >> >>majority of Scotts who settled in the present day Carolinas and Georgia. > >> >>They suffered greatly after the War and their children (in this case > >> >>Malcolm) left the Raleigh area by 1812. Malcolm took the usual boat >route > >> >>from N. Carolina to Dover, Stewart Co. with a lot of the Scottish >Clans... > > >> >> > >> >>A little history......the names..Nancy and Ann... in Gaelic are the same > >> >>names.....contrary to popular belief....Nancy Beaton WAS NOT NAMED >...Nancy > >> >>ANN Beaton in 1793......that would be like calling President George > >> >>Bush....GEORGE GEORGE BUSH....her name was Nancy OR Ann...but NOT Nancy > >> >>Ann....it was Anglicized to Nancy Ann...... > >> >> > >> >>2nd....in Gaelic....surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite >prominent > >> >>in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the > >> >>same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'.......The Beatons' or Bethunes' are an > >> >>extrememly respected religous name in old Scotland....as they were the > >> >>priests and ministers of the Church.....and were the founders of the >Church > >> > >> >>of Canada after most of the N. Carolina Scotts went to Canada after the > >> >>Revolutionary War....... > >> >> > >> >>I will tell you the story later as to how these Scotts fought with the > >> >>English (and this is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT historical >note............it's > >> >>ENGLISH and not BRITISH......you offend Wales, Ireland and Scotland >(these > >> >>folks HATED the ENGLISH in 1774) by including them in the >Revolutionary War > >> >>as 'British' ........the War was fought with ENGLAND and NOT...Wales, > >> >>Ireland and Scotland.....it was.... TOTALLY ENGLISH.... > >> >> > >> >>More stories later..... > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>But...... > >> >> > >> >>I have, in hand, copies of the Royal Peerage Charts of the McKenzies > back > >> >>to the 11th Century.....I received them from the current Laird of the > >> >>MacKenzies as a gift thru the Clan McKenzie of Canada....for personal > >> >>research connecting the Clans settlements in the Americas after the >Battle > >> >>of Collouden Moor in April of 1745........ > >> >> > >> >>THese are very rare documents, as they are NOT available to the General > >> >>Public..... > >> >> > >> >>Three things..... > >> >> > >> >>1. These gen-charts, from the 1000's to the late 1800's, provide a > >> >>genealogical history to a number of you in Northern Benton Country > >> >>(particularly around Big Sandy) and the surrounding counties. If you >have > >> >>an interest in them...I will provide you a copy (at whatever it cost >me to > >> >>reproduce them)......let me know.... > >> >> > >> >>2. I have established the link between Gilbert (b. 1740), his son >Malcolm > >> >>(b. 1774) of Benton Co. and the Ancient MacKenzie Clan > >> >>gen-charts...........I leave 'the link' for you to discover on your own > >> >>however......It is important to me..that you do this >yourselves......if you > >> >>find the right connections....I will provide you with missing > >>documents...... > >> >> > >> >>3. However, those of you who are descendant of Malcolms' son, Gilbert, > >> >>thru his son Jethro, and subsequently Fred McKenzie (who married Grace > >> >>Thelma Wimberley in 1921) may not find these 'Charts" of interest....you > >> >>may want to look to the Robbins' family genealogy >instead.......There's an > >> >>old genealogical ryhme, which has stood the test of time, (making a new > >> >>ryhme here <vbg>)...that goes......'Mamas' Baby...Daddy's Maybe'....You > >> >>research it.... and figure it out..... > > >> >> > >> >>Dave > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> >>What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > >> > > >> > > >> >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > >> > > >> > >> > >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >>GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: > >>They Hide & I Seek !! > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! 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