Wow, Dave! That is interesting! Do you have to be a McKenzie to be in those charts? All those my folks' stomping grounds, but I don't think I have a drop of McKenzie blood... At 03:18 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: >In the Fall of 1824, a 49 year old Scott, crossed the Tennessee River, from >near Erin in what is now Houston Co (that used to be Humphreys Co., and >then used to be Stewart Co.), and searched-out a new Homestead for his >family of 6, on Sugar Creek (near current-day Big Sandy) in Benton County >(which used to be Barbados, which used to be Virginia, which used to be >Carolina, which used to be N. Carolina, which used to be Indian Territory, >which used to be Humphreys County)......hoping to move his wife and family >into a new home by Christmas....... > >Just after marring his young Scottish bride of 19, Nancy Beaton, on >February 13, 1812 in Stewart Co. at Dover., the then 38 year old Malcolm >McKenzie, joined Gen. Andrew Jackson (when he came thru the area >recruiting) to fight the British in the War of 1812. Malcolm was >reportedly 'Killed-in-Action' during the War, and Nancy received a Widow's >Pension.....But then, Malcolm made a miraculous recovery from his 'mortal >wounds' and returned home to receive only a 'wounded pension' from the US >Government for his service...... > >Imagine if you would, what it might have been like in 1824, to enter into >the Wilderness of then Humphreys County (which just a few years prior had >been Indian Territory) and carve-out a new homestead.....alone.....for your >wife and 6 kids. > >Malcom's parents (Gilbert & Margrette McKenzie) came to Wilmington, N. >Carolina in December 1774 after a 2 month voyage from Greenock, Scotland >aboard the ship, Diana. Margrette was pregnant with Malcolm during the >journey....she gave birth to Malcolm during the trip or shortley after >arriving in Wilmington. They left Scotland, after being reduced to >'bleeding' their cattle and drinking their blood to survive.....This is >another tale in itself...... > >Gilbert fought in the Revolutionary War with the British.....as did the >majority of Scotts who settled in the present day Carolinas and Georgia. >They suffered greatly after the War and their children (in this case >Malcolm) left the Raleigh area by 1812. Malcolm took the usual boat route >from N. Carolina to Dover, Stewart Co. with a lot of the Scottish Clans... > >A little history......the names..Nancy and Ann... in Gaelic are the same >names.....contrary to popular belief....Nancy Beaton WAS NOT NAMED ...Nancy >ANN Beaton in 1793......that would be like calling President George >Bush....GEORGE GEORGE BUSH....her name was Nancy OR Ann...but NOT Nancy >Ann....it was Anglicized to Nancy Ann...... > >2nd....in Gaelic....surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite prominent >in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the >same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'.......The Beatons' or Bethunes' are an >extrememly respected religous name in old Scotland....as they were the >priests and ministers of the Church.....and were the founders of the Church >of Canada after most of the N. Carolina Scotts went to Canada after the >Revolutionary War....... > >I will tell you the story later as to how these Scotts fought with the >English (and this is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT historical note............it's >ENGLISH and not BRITISH......you offend Wales, Ireland and Scotland (these >folks HATED the ENGLISH in 1774) by including them in the Revolutionary War >as 'British' ........the War was fought with ENGLAND and NOT...Wales, >Ireland and Scotland.....it was.... TOTALLY ENGLISH.... > >More stories later..... > > >But...... > >I have, in hand, copies of the Royal Peerage Charts of the McKenzies back >to the 11th Century.....I received them from the current Laird of the >MacKenzies as a gift thru the Clan McKenzie of Canada....for personal >research connecting the Clans settlements in the Americas after the Battle >of Collouden Moor in April of 1745........ > >THese are very rare documents, as they are NOT available to the General >Public..... > >Three things..... > >1. These gen-charts, from the 1000's to the late 1800's, provide a >genealogical history to a number of you in Northern Benton Country >(particularly around Big Sandy) and the surrounding counties. If you have >an interest in them...I will provide you a copy (at whatever it cost me to >reproduce them)......let me know.... > >2. I have established the link between Gilbert (b. 1740), his son Malcolm >(b. 1774) of Benton Co. and the Ancient MacKenzie Clan >gen-charts...........I leave 'the link' for you to discover on your own >however......It is important to me..that you do this yourselves......if you >find the right connections....I will provide you with missing documents...... > >3. However, those of you who are descendant of Malcolms' son, Gilbert, >thru his son Jethro, and subsequently Fred McKenzie (who married Grace >Thelma Wimberley in 1921) may not find these 'Charts" of interest....you >may want to look to the Robbins' family genealogy instead.......There's an >old genealogical ryhme, which has stood the test of time, (making a new >ryhme here <vbg>)...that goes......'Mamas' Baby...Daddy's Maybe'....You >research it.... and figure it out..... > >Dave > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ???

YES YOU DO.......but....there's a secret you'll don't know...about 'Septs'.....sub-groups <got'cha> ....ignorance is sometimes ..Bliss..sometmes it cuts your heart out.........'McRea' for example, is a Sept...of Clan MacKenzie...so are the McLoeds (this is McClouds).........do your homework......not many in the local area have escaped the the Scottish 'curse'... Dave At 04:57 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: >Wow, Dave! That is interesting! Do you have to be a McKenzie to be in >those charts? All those my folks' stomping grounds, but I don't think I >have a drop of McKenzie blood... > >At 03:18 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: >>In the Fall of 1824, a 49 year old Scott, crossed the Tennessee River, from >>near Erin in what is now Houston Co (that used to be Humphreys Co., and >>then used to be Stewart Co.), and searched-out a new Homestead for his >>family of 6, on Sugar Creek (near current-day Big Sandy) in Benton County >>(which used to be Barbados, which used to be Virginia, which used to be >>Carolina, which used to be N. Carolina, which used to be Indian Territory, >>which used to be Humphreys County)......hoping to move his wife and family >>into a new home by Christmas....... >> >>Just after marring his young Scottish bride of 19, Nancy Beaton, on >>February 13, 1812 in Stewart Co. at Dover., the then 38 year old Malcolm >>McKenzie, joined Gen. Andrew Jackson (when he came thru the area >>recruiting) to fight the British in the War of 1812. Malcolm was >>reportedly 'Killed-in-Action' during the War, and Nancy received a Widow's >>Pension.....But then, Malcolm made a miraculous recovery from his 'mortal >>wounds' and returned home to receive only a 'wounded pension' from the US >>Government for his service...... >> >>Imagine if you would, what it might have been like in 1824, to enter into >>the Wilderness of then Humphreys County (which just a few years prior had >>been Indian Territory) and carve-out a new homestead.....alone.....for your >>wife and 6 kids. >> >>Malcom's parents (Gilbert & Margrette McKenzie) came to Wilmington, N. >>Carolina in December 1774 after a 2 month voyage from Greenock, Scotland >>aboard the ship, Diana. Margrette was pregnant with Malcolm during the >>journey....she gave birth to Malcolm during the trip or shortley after >>arriving in Wilmington. They left Scotland, after being reduced to >>'bleeding' their cattle and drinking their blood to survive.....This is >>another tale in itself...... >> >>Gilbert fought in the Revolutionary War with the British.....as did the >>majority of Scotts who settled in the present day Carolinas and Georgia. >>They suffered greatly after the War and their children (in this case >>Malcolm) left the Raleigh area by 1812. Malcolm took the usual boat route >>from N. Carolina to Dover, Stewart Co. with a lot of the Scottish Clans... >> >>A little history......the names..Nancy and Ann... in Gaelic are the same >>names.....contrary to popular belief....Nancy Beaton WAS NOT NAMED ...Nancy >>ANN Beaton in 1793......that would be like calling President George >>Bush....GEORGE GEORGE BUSH....her name was Nancy OR Ann...but NOT Nancy >>Ann....it was Anglicized to Nancy Ann...... >> >>2nd....in Gaelic....surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite prominent >>in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the >>same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'.......The Beatons' or Bethunes' are an >>extrememly respected religous name in old Scotland....as they were the >>priests and ministers of the Church.....and were the founders of the Church >>of Canada after most of the N. Carolina Scotts went to Canada after the >>Revolutionary War....... >> >>I will tell you the story later as to how these Scotts fought with the >>English (and this is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT historical note............it's >>ENGLISH and not BRITISH......you offend Wales, Ireland and Scotland (these >>folks HATED the ENGLISH in 1774) by including them in the Revolutionary War >>as 'British' ........the War was fought with ENGLAND and NOT...Wales, >>Ireland and Scotland.....it was.... TOTALLY ENGLISH.... >> >>More stories later..... >> >> >>But...... >> >>I have, in hand, copies of the Royal Peerage Charts of the McKenzies back >>to the 11th Century.....I received them from the current Laird of the >>MacKenzies as a gift thru the Clan McKenzie of Canada....for personal >>research connecting the Clans settlements in the Americas after the Battle >>of Collouden Moor in April of 1745........ >> >>THese are very rare documents, as they are NOT available to the General >>Public..... >> >>Three things..... >> >>1. These gen-charts, from the 1000's to the late 1800's, provide a >>genealogical history to a number of you in Northern Benton Country >>(particularly around Big Sandy) and the surrounding counties. If you have >>an interest in them...I will provide you a copy (at whatever it cost me to >>reproduce them)......let me know.... >> >>2. I have established the link between Gilbert (b. 1740), his son Malcolm >>(b. 1774) of Benton Co. and the Ancient MacKenzie Clan >>gen-charts...........I leave 'the link' for you to discover on your own >>however......It is important to me..that you do this yourselves......if you >>find the right connections....I will provide you with missing documents...... >> >>3. However, those of you who are descendant of Malcolms' son, Gilbert, >>thru his son Jethro, and subsequently Fred McKenzie (who married Grace >>Thelma Wimberley in 1921) may not find these 'Charts" of interest....you >>may want to look to the Robbins' family genealogy instead.......There's an >>old genealogical ryhme, which has stood the test of time, (making a new >>ryhme here <vbg>)...that goes......'Mamas' Baby...Daddy's Maybe'....You >>research it.... and figure it out..... >> >>Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >>What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? >

I only got one of those "Mc's" in my heritage, Dave. <BG> McElroy. Now canya do anything with that one?? And be nice. jan At 05:29 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: >YES YOU DO.......but....there's a secret you'll don't know...about >'Septs'.....sub-groups <got'cha> ....ignorance is sometimes >..Bliss..sometmes it cuts your heart out.........'McRea' for example, is a >Sept...of Clan MacKenzie...so are the McLoeds (this is McClouds).........do >your homework......not many in the local area have escaped the the Scottish >'curse'... > >Dave > >At 04:57 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > >Wow, Dave! That is interesting! Do you have to be a McKenzie to be in > >those charts? All those my folks' stomping grounds, but I don't think I > >have a drop of McKenzie blood... > > > >At 03:18 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > >>In the Fall of 1824, a 49 year old Scott, crossed the Tennessee River, from > >>near Erin in what is now Houston Co (that used to be Humphreys Co., and > >>then used to be Stewart Co.), and searched-out a new Homestead for his > >>family of 6, on Sugar Creek (near current-day Big Sandy) in Benton County > >>(which used to be Barbados, which used to be Virginia, which used to be > >>Carolina, which used to be N. Carolina, which used to be Indian Territory, > >>which used to be Humphreys County)......hoping to move his wife and family > >>into a new home by Christmas....... > >> > >>Just after marring his young Scottish bride of 19, Nancy Beaton, on > >>February 13, 1812 in Stewart Co. at Dover., the then 38 year old Malcolm > >>McKenzie, joined Gen. Andrew Jackson (when he came thru the area > >>recruiting) to fight the British in the War of 1812. Malcolm was > >>reportedly 'Killed-in-Action' during the War, and Nancy received a Widow's > >>Pension.....But then, Malcolm made a miraculous recovery from his 'mortal > >>wounds' and returned home to receive only a 'wounded pension' from the US > >>Government for his service...... > >> > >>Imagine if you would, what it might have been like in 1824, to enter into > >>the Wilderness of then Humphreys County (which just a few years prior had > >>been Indian Territory) and carve-out a new homestead.....alone.....for your > >>wife and 6 kids. > >> > >>Malcom's parents (Gilbert & Margrette McKenzie) came to Wilmington, N. > >>Carolina in December 1774 after a 2 month voyage from Greenock, Scotland > >>aboard the ship, Diana. Margrette was pregnant with Malcolm during the > >>journey....she gave birth to Malcolm during the trip or shortley after > >>arriving in Wilmington. They left Scotland, after being reduced to > >>'bleeding' their cattle and drinking their blood to survive.....This is > >>another tale in itself...... > >> > >>Gilbert fought in the Revolutionary War with the British.....as did the > >>majority of Scotts who settled in the present day Carolinas and Georgia. > >>They suffered greatly after the War and their children (in this case > >>Malcolm) left the Raleigh area by 1812. Malcolm took the usual boat route > >>from N. Carolina to Dover, Stewart Co. with a lot of the Scottish Clans... > >> > >>A little history......the names..Nancy and Ann... in Gaelic are the same > >>names.....contrary to popular belief....Nancy Beaton WAS NOT NAMED ...Nancy > >>ANN Beaton in 1793......that would be like calling President George > >>Bush....GEORGE GEORGE BUSH....her name was Nancy OR Ann...but NOT Nancy > >>Ann....it was Anglicized to Nancy Ann...... > >> > >>2nd....in Gaelic....surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite prominent > >>in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the > >>same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'.......The Beatons' or Bethunes' are an > >>extrememly respected religous name in old Scotland....as they were the > >>priests and ministers of the Church.....and were the founders of the Church > > >>of Canada after most of the N. Carolina Scotts went to Canada after the > >>Revolutionary War....... > >> > >>I will tell you the story later as to how these Scotts fought with the > >>English (and this is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT historical note............it's > >>ENGLISH and not BRITISH......you offend Wales, Ireland and Scotland (these > >>folks HATED the ENGLISH in 1774) by including them in the Revolutionary War > >>as 'British' ........the War was fought with ENGLAND and NOT...Wales, > >>Ireland and Scotland.....it was.... TOTALLY ENGLISH.... > >> > >>More stories later..... > >> > >> > >>But...... > >> > >>I have, in hand, copies of the Royal Peerage Charts of the McKenzies back > >>to the 11th Century.....I received them from the current Laird of the > >>MacKenzies as a gift thru the Clan McKenzie of Canada....for personal > >>research connecting the Clans settlements in the Americas after the Battle > >>of Collouden Moor in April of 1745........ > >> > >>THese are very rare documents, as they are NOT available to the General > >>Public..... > >> > >>Three things..... > >> > >>1. These gen-charts, from the 1000's to the late 1800's, provide a > >>genealogical history to a number of you in Northern Benton Country > >>(particularly around Big Sandy) and the surrounding counties. If you have > >>an interest in them...I will provide you a copy (at whatever it cost me to > >>reproduce them)......let me know.... > >> > >>2. I have established the link between Gilbert (b. 1740), his son Malcolm > >>(b. 1774) of Benton Co. and the Ancient MacKenzie Clan > >>gen-charts...........I leave 'the link' for you to discover on your own > >>however......It is important to me..that you do this yourselves......if you > >>find the right connections....I will provide you with missing >documents...... > >> > >>3. However, those of you who are descendant of Malcolms' son, Gilbert, > >>thru his son Jethro, and subsequently Fred McKenzie (who married Grace > >>Thelma Wimberley in 1921) may not find these 'Charts" of interest....you > >>may want to look to the Robbins' family genealogy instead.......There's an > >>old genealogical ryhme, which has stood the test of time, (making a new > >>ryhme here <vbg>)...that goes......'Mamas' Baby...Daddy's Maybe'....You > >>research it.... and figure it out..... > >> > >>Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >>What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: >They Hide & I Seek !!