Dave, I learned two things. One I don't know how to print all of it out, even with your directions. Two, I learned that my family, also was moved, and where the cemetery was at the time. With Christmas I have not been able to study the map as much as I will next week, but please waste your time and send us more. Lov Phyllis

It's coming in thru the 'JAVA' feature .....Your computer may go into 'lock-up'...when JAVA is initiated thru your Internet browser.... Dave ================================ >Folks, > >One of you has picked-up and is transmitting a pretty wicked Virus...... > >Please update your Virus 'checking' programs...... > >I'm not a novice at this .....this one is entering undetected.....who ever >did this one is very, very good... > >I haven't found the 'exe' file yet....it's hidden pretty good...it's >probably coming in thru a government or legal (lawyer firm) site. > >Here's it's features.... > >a. Your ISP connection will not be disconnected until you physically >'shut-off' your computer. Restarting thru Windows will NOT disconnect your >ISP.........this means somebody maybe using your telephone line for ANY >PURPOSE (including those illegal or immoral) LOOK AT YOUR NEXT PHONE BILL >'Long Distance Charges' CAREFULLY !!!!!!!!!! > >b. Your computer viewed 'clock' has been reset to Eastern Standard >Time......for me that's 2 hours ahead......THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM, >because they have gotten 'into' your systems BIOS........ > >c. I REFUSE to use EXPLORER or any of the MICROSOFT software except >WINDOWS 95,so (whoever it is), they have found a way in thru a Windows 95, >Eudura or Netscape 'backdoor'. This is a significant security breach >....this software is almost 5 years old.....you'd think we'd have a fix by >now ??????? > >d. You don't have to 'click' on any email to execute this Virus.......this >is BAD NEWS........ > >e. Look at your "c::/temp" file directory to see if you have an >'explosion' of files particulary when you want to print something out from >an email....it will generally be printed on the botton of the 1st page of >any email you print. > >g. This is probably a 'Tmed' Virus for Xmas.......This is the most heavily >used Internet time of the year....... > >Will keep you informed as I can......... > >Dave > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my grandparents didn't have any kids ??? >

Folks, One of you has picked-up and is transmitting a pretty wicked Virus...... Please update your Virus 'checking' programs...... I'm not a novice at this .....this one is entering undetected.....who ever did this one is very, very good... I haven't found the 'exe' file yet....it's hidden pretty good...it's probably coming in thru a government or legal (lawyer firm) site. Here's it's features.... a. Your ISP connection will not be disconnected until you physically 'shut-off' your computer. Restarting thru Windows will NOT disconnect your ISP.........this means somebody maybe using your telephone line for ANY PURPOSE (including those illegal or immoral) LOOK AT YOUR NEXT PHONE BILL 'Long Distance Charges' CAREFULLY !!!!!!!!!! b. Your computer viewed 'clock' has been reset to Eastern Standard Time......for me that's 2 hours ahead......THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM, because they have gotten 'into' your systems BIOS........ c. I REFUSE to use EXPLORER or any of the MICROSOFT software except WINDOWS 95,so (whoever it is), they have found a way in thru a Windows 95, Eudura or Netscape 'backdoor'. This is a significant security breach ....this software is almost 5 years old.....you'd think we'd have a fix by now ??????? d. You don't have to 'click' on any email to execute this Virus.......this is BAD NEWS........ e. Look at your "c::/temp" file directory to see if you have an 'explosion' of files particulary when you want to print something out from an email....it will generally be printed on the botton of the 1st page of any email you print. g. This is probably a 'Tmed' Virus for Xmas.......This is the most heavily used Internet time of the year....... Will keep you informed as I can......... Dave

Phyllis,' You're a pain in the axx, but you already know that...... Love you anyway,....and I will (give you more).... Dave PS: Even if we help only ONE. ..it's worth it... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- At 02:54 PM 12/25/01 -0500, you wrote: >Dave, > I learned two things. One I don't know how to print all of it out, even >with your directions. > Two, I learned that my family, also was moved, and where the cemetery was >at the time. With Christmas I have not been able to study the map as much >as I will next week, but please waste your time and send us more. > >Lov >Phyllis > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My family Coat of Arms ties at the back ...... >is that normal ??? >

Dave although it didn't have my ancestors on it I was very interested in seeing where the old 23rd was. Thanks for providing it for us. Now if you could find my BASS, FUTTRELL, HEDGES, MOORE and KENNEDY folks for me - ROTFL. Seriously my main stumbling block is my KENNEDY line. I'm beginning to think my great grandfather Cenus Hardy KENNEDY was deposited in Tennessee in February, 1870 by an alien spaceship. Word is that his father left his first wife, married an Indian, so the family disowned him and therefore I can find no information on his father other than the fact that on Cenus' death certificate he is listed as Alford KENADY. Which stands to reason since Pa KENNEDY named his son Alford Finis KENNEDY. Any bites out there??? Any stories of a man who left his family for an Indian? Leslie lmoore@ecsis.net Personal Website: http://www.ecsis.net/~lmoore/ Lake County, TN County Coordinator: http://www.ecsis.net/lakecounty/history/

Yep. Your map is being copied all over the US. Had my printer/computer smoking so I sent it to Mich. to be copied. Seriously, we had been trying for years to figure out where the old family farms were before they were flooded. All the relatives that might help with information were deceased. Information of this map was a Xmas present. Merry Christmas. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Carlson" <carlsonmg@home.com> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 9:58 PM Subject: Re: 23rd Map > Hi David, > > I learned a great deal, mainly where the old 23rd district was! I 've > never seen a map of the districts of Henry Co (which by the way, we > would all REALLY appreciate anyone sharing if they have one), and for > some reason, I thought this old 23rd district was more in the Western > portion of Henry Co, at the Benton Co line. I thought (based on old > marriage records of families with ties to the old 23rd district) that > this was where my Watkins ancestors lived, but now I know they weren't > in this district. At least you've cleared up misconceptions! Thank you! > > Happy Holidays! > Patricia > > David L Snow wrote: > > > > Hey Folks, > > > > Anybody learn anything from the map...???????? > > > > If you did, we'd like to hear....otherwise, I brought it to you for > > nothing..... > > > > and that's not a good use of my time.....agreed ????? > > > > Dave > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > > GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: > > They Hide & I Seek !! > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on... > > > > > >

Hi David, I learned a great deal, mainly where the old 23rd district was! I 've never seen a map of the districts of Henry Co (which by the way, we would all REALLY appreciate anyone sharing if they have one), and for some reason, I thought this old 23rd district was more in the Western portion of Henry Co, at the Benton Co line. I thought (based on old marriage records of families with ties to the old 23rd district) that this was where my Watkins ancestors lived, but now I know they weren't in this district. At least you've cleared up misconceptions! Thank you! Happy Holidays! Patricia David L Snow wrote: > > Hey Folks, > > Anybody learn anything from the map...???????? > > If you did, we'd like to hear....otherwise, I brought it to you for > nothing..... > > and that's not a good use of my time.....agreed ????? > > Dave > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: > They Hide & I Seek !!

Hey Folks, Anybody learn anything from the map...???????? If you did, we'd like to hear....otherwise, I brought it to you for nothing..... and that's not a good use of my time.....agreed ????? Dave

Could I also get a copy of the map Thanks Sue

Dave, Please put me on the list. Thanks Bill GleavesAt 03:39 PM 12/18/2001 -0700, you wrote: >OKay, Found the map of the residents that were displaced by the TVA in the >'Old 23rd District' of Henry County (the Northern tip of Benton Co. north >of Big Sandy. > >The 'gif' file is 2,200K plus so I reduced into a 'jpg' of only (ha ha) >600K +. I'll send the 'jpg' file to anyone that wants it, but I would like >to attach it to an email on once .........sooooo ........I would like to >include all who want it in one email. > >Also, please make sure your email ISP and software setting will accept and >download a file of this size. > >Dave > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" >as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ????

Could I also get a copy of the map, hope I am not to late Thanks Debbie Debbielop@aol.com

THE FEDERALIST(r) DIGEST The Conservative e-Journal of Record * Veritas Vos Liberabit * Christmas Edition 2001 Federalist Edition #01-51/52 CHRISTMAS 2001 SACRIFICIAL GIFTS This first Christmas of the new millennium arrives during dark and difficult days for our country. War has visited our shores, taking the lives of thousands of our countrymen, and sorrow and caution has tempered our customary seasonal celebrations. Fires burned in the World Trade Center rubble for one hundred days, only smoldering out entirely earlier this week. And the bodies of victims, and rescuers who died attempting to save others, were still being recovered as Christmas draws near. This year, we contemplate many sacrifices, laid down as simple, free gifts by our fallen and still-serving countrymen. In a literal sense, all gifts involve sacrifice, in that the giver exchanges a direct personal resource for another's benefit. Moreover, in common parlance, we often cheapen the term by calling a "sacrificial gift" anything that is expensive or difficult to give. But a "temporary sacrifice" hardly qualifies as a sacrifice at all, and only a gift that irretrievably changes the giver, can in any meaningful sense be sacrificially given. And, of course, the recipient of such a gift is changed forever as well. War is always a time of sacrifice. War is a curse; peace is a blessing. No one knows this better than a warrior. Death, destruction and disruption were the objectives of our September 11th attackers, and those curses have lingered over our land these past one hundred and some days, even as our warrior-defenders have taken the fight to our enemies abroad. So, as Christmas approaches this year, how do we celebrate in the midst of such changes and confusions? How do we best commemorate the birthday of the Prince of Peace while we are still at war? How do we honor traditions when we are told that everything changed on September 11th? Historically, the actual year of Christ's birth is thought to be between 6 B.C. and 4 B.C., at the end of Herod's reign. The first mention of Christmas as a formal Nativity feast occurred in a Roman almanac dated A.D. 336. The day we celebrate Christ's birth, December 25th, was not chosen on the basis of historical evidence but rather to replace the pagan festival natalis solis invicti, the birth of the sun god Mithras, at winter solstice. The Christmas star that guided the Wise Men to Bethlehem may have been any of a number of recorded astronomical events coinciding with the likeliest dates of that first Christmas. Halley's Comet appeared in 12 B.C., and ancient Chinese texts note "exploding" stars, or novas, observed in both 4 and 5 B.C. Exceptionally bright planetary conjunctions occurred in 2, 6, and 7 B.C.; among these, the most promising candidate for the Holy Star was the triple conjunction of Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn in 6 B.C. The prophet Isaiah wrote of the coming Messiah, that "the people who walked in darkness have seen a great light...." Clearly, well before the birth of Jesus, humans longed for light in the days of greatest darkness. Early Christians selected December 25th for the Nativity feast to proclaim that Jesus Christ was the real Light of the World, the true "Sun of Righteousness," as well as the Messiah foretold in Jewish faith. As Jesus later said, he had not come to destroy the law and the prophets of Judaism, but to fulfill them, and so he also fulfilled the deepest human longings expressed in other traditional celebrations. And we Christians believe these aspects of our human nature are not merely enduring, but eternal -- because we humans are all created in the image of Eternal God. Our American Christmas heritage derives, like so much else here, from the mingled Christmas traditions of immigrants from many lands, with differing religious beliefs and customs of worship and celebration. Our name for this Holy Day arises from the old English Cristes Maesse, or Christ's Mass, and as the name suggests, the holiday was first observed in Early America among the Anglicans, Roman Catholics, Lutherans, and Moravians who settled predominantly in the Middle Atlantic colonies and the South. Influenced by Puritanism and Calvinism, the New England Congregationalists, Presbyterians, Baptists, and Methodists looked askance at a celebration they deemed based on "heathenistic traditions." New England colonial authorities outlawed Christmas from 1649 until 1658. The General Court of Massachusetts in 1659 set a fine of five shillings per offense, punishing the observance "of any such day as Christmas or the like, either by forebearing of labour, feasting, or any such way! ." Contemporaneously, the Assembly of Connecticut forbade the reading of the Book of Common Prayer, the keeping of Christmas and saints days, the making of mince pies, the playing of cards, or performing on any musical instruments. Peter Kalm wrote on Christmas Day 1749, about Philadelphia's holiday: "Nowhere was Christmas Day celebrated with more solemnity than in the Roman Church. Three sermons were preached there, and that which contributed most to the splendor of the ceremony was the beautiful music heard to-day....Pews and altar were decorated with branches of mountain laurel, whose leaves are green in winter time and resemble the (cherry laurel)." Philip Fithian, of colonial Virginia, recorded in his diary entry for December 18, 1773: "When it grew to dark to dance....we conversed til half after six; Nothing is now to be heard of in conversation, but the Balls, the Fox-hunts, the fine entertainments, and the good fellowship, which are to be exhibited at the approaching Christmas." Fithian's Christmas Eve 1775 diary entry from Staunton, Virginia, described other common pastimes of the holiday celebration: "The Evening I spent at Mr. Guys -- I sung for an Hour, at the good Peoples Desire, Mr. Watts admirable Hymns -- I myself was entertaind; I felt myself improvd; so much Love to Jesus is set forth -- So much divine Exercise." But his 1775 Christmas Day entry noted the vastly different observances of the Scotch and Scotch-Irish Presbyterians: "Christmas Morning -- Not A Gun is heard -- Not a Shout -- No company or Cabal assembled -- To Day is like other Days every Way calm & temperate -- People go about their daily Business with the same Readiness, & apply themselves to it with the same Industry." The first state to declare Christmas a legal holiday was Massachusetts in 1856. By the Civil War era, most of our shared Christmas traditions were set, and the January 3, 1863 issue of Harper's Weekly featured a drawing of encamped soldiers receiving Christmas gifts from home. Nearly all Americans (96%) celebrate Christmas today in some form or another. Our country has before this honored Christmas when war was raging in our land. Indeed, our first national Christmases tell the tale of the Revolutionary War's ebb and flow. The so-called Christmas Campaign successes of 1776 at Trenton and Princeton were presaged by General George Washington's writings of December 18: "If every nerve is not straind to recruit the New Army with all possible Expedition I think the game is pretty near up....No Man I believe ever had a greater choice of difficulties & less the means of extricating himself than I have--However under a full perswation of the justice of our Cause I cannot but think the prospect will brighten." But these surprising victories were followed a year later by the Revolutionary Army's retreat to Valley Forge, the trail marked by bloody footprints in the snow. Washington's discouragement was evident in his writing of "A character to lose-- an estate to forfeit-- the inestimable blessing of liberty at stake-- and a life dev! oted, must be my excuse," and about how "it was much easier to draw up remonstrances in a comfortable room by a good fire-side, than to occupy a cold bleak hill, and sleep under frost and snow, without clothes or blankets." And the last battlefield conflict that visited our shores prior to September 11th came during the Civil War. General Robert E. Lee wrote one wartime Christmas: "My heart is filled with gratitude to Almighty God for his unspeakable mercies with which He has blessed us in this day. For those He granted us from the beginning of life, and particularly for those He has vouchsafed us during the past year [of war]. What should have become of us without His crowning help and protection? "Oh, if our people would only recognize it and cease from self-boasting and adulation, how strong would be my belief in the final success and happiness to our country! But what a cruel thing is war; to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world! "I pray that on this day [Christmas] when only peace and good-will are preached to mankind, better thoughts may fill the hearts of our enemies and turn them to peace." Would our wishes today be expressed much differently, despite the span of nearly a century and a half, or the very different enemy we are facing? Are not our thoughts and prayers much the same? We in this country were given a great gift, at great cost, in the principles of liberty and self-government handed down to us from our Founding Fathers. But we have not treasured this heritage for the great gift it is. So, now we must fight for our freedoms. We Christians believe that Christmas was a necessity because our human hearts are deceitful above all things, desperately wicked, and unfathomably so. War is merely one of the deadliest manifestations arising from this darkness in the hearts of all humans. And Christmas addresses the duality of our human nature. We are so depraved, God had to mount a personal rescue mission on our behalf; we are so valuable, He considered sacrificing Himself worth the exchange. Only a Gift would suffice to redeem such creatures into freedom.... He was the greatest of all Sacrificial Gifts. Our particular individual sins, which Jesus was born to die for, are revealed best in the recesses of an illuminated heart. Our corporate sins in this nation have been many and grievous these recent years. Perhaps now, while we are at war, we will begin to contemplate real repentance -- and then reckoning out the restitution that must be repaid to set things right in our homeland again. The Wise Men followed the Holy Star to lay gifts, symbolic of His life, before the Baby Jesus: gold, because He was a king; frankincense, as he was a divine king; myrrh, to foreshadow that His suffering and death would be our preservation. In laying down their lives as part of their daily work, our warriors and rescuers give us, their countrymen, lasting sacrificial gifts. Our rescuers enact earthly missions like the godly one that began that first Christmas. And our warriors serve the cause of the Prince of Peace, in that only a well-fought war will surely bring peace. As we know these acts are right and good and true, how can we then not freely acknowledge the Baby Jesus as the one true King, the Author of rescue, and the only Provider of peace? It is not true that September 11th "changed everything"; that day merely revealed -- inescapably -- painful realities our leaders had beguiled us beyond admitting. All that changed September 11th? All our perspectives. Perhaps, in the dark and difficult days since then, we have begun to rediscover the great gifts of liberty in our heritage. We pray this is true. The miracle is not that we can honor Christmas in peace and in war, but that so much of Christmas has endured into our time, celebrated still in its full glory and significance, despite its central paradoxes, so strange to our ears, of the Gift beyond reciprocation: God born in Man, Eternity captured in Time, and Light piercing the Darkness, to reveal a Truth at the heart of the Universe. And the choice set before individuals and nations has always been this simple -- choose life or death; worship God or humankind; live free or chafe in chains. We have only to follow the Star and accept the Gift. "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble...." (2 Corinthians 1:3-4) Publisher's note about our Christmas message: We know that some of our readers are of faiths other than Christianity. We hope this message will serve to enlighten your understanding of our faith, and we wish God's blessing and peace upon you and your families, in whatever setting you may worship. SUBSCRIBE: FREE by E-mail! Get your FREE subscription to The Federalist! 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Please add me to your list to send the map to. Thank you. Ann

In a message dated 12/20/01 3:17:04 PM Central Standard Time, redpepperdm@hotmail.com writes: > Where can I purchase a copy of Perry's book and what was > the name of it? > Donna: I will answer since I have not seen one from Dave: Larry T. Perry 331 Husky Drive Seymour, TN. 37865 The Second Printing was in 1994, the Name of the Book, "A Pictorial History of The Old 23rd District" Last account I had of him he was still there, it is large book size 425 pages and the residential Map of the old 23rd as an attachment. Merry Christmas to you and yours, I think I wished you that on an earlier E-mail. Boy what you had in that last E-mail about the Hug, I would make the next reunion if I have to swim Ky. Lake to get across. I remember your mother, a beautiful lady. Ira

In a message dated 12/20/01 2:40:28 PM Central Standard Time, dlsnow1@qwest.net writes: > NOBODY CAN SPOIL A KID LIKE A GRANDPARENT.........YEAH !!!!!!!!!! Yes, and when they need changing or get too loud, just "tell momma to come and get it until they return to their sweet smelling self, then Grandpa will take back over.Ha. Ira

David you keep me lmdo...that's laffin' my derriere off.. server won't let me use that other word or it's initial. :) My question for the day...and I know the info has been posted before, but I deleted it when cleaning out my email. Where can I purchase a copy of Perry's book and what was the name of it? Does this Danville Crossing group have a 'family' reunion? I gotta meet you guys!!! Besides Ira is such a sweetheart with my endless questions, I owe him a very BIG HUG!!! Merry Christmas to All of you Donna >From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> >Reply-To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: You're the Ira.... >Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:33:07 -0700 > >Come on Ira...... > >How many Ira's do think exist in the DC area.......????? > >You, I and alot others know that that Mt. Zion area was something >else......another time,.....another place. > >Baby is doing well ....hungry little sucker.....cranky....never knew women >started so early. Thought that came later in life. >Demanding........jeez....doesn't get HER WAY and ........ > >Used to be if ..."Mammas not happy.....Nobody's happy". We've changed that >to if 'Baby's not happy.....you know the rest. > >But, she's fun.......and now I am able to get Revenge on my 'ungrateful' >daughters...... > >NOBODY CAN SPOIL A KID LIKE A GRANDPARENT.........YEAH !!!!!!!!!! > >Take care, > >Dave >------------------------------------------------- >At 03:14 PM 12/20/01 -0500, you wrote: > >In a message dated 12/16/01 4:34:30 PM Central Standard Time, > >dlsnow1@qwest.net writes: > > > >> Ira and Hurley Dortch. I know the Dortches of the 23rd, but how > >> >does this Hurley fit in to the moonshine deal? Also, who might Ira be? > >> > >Hello Dave: > > > >> Reference the above, I do not know if I am the Ira he is talking about, >but > >> I don't recall too much about the old 23rd except what My Great > >> Grandfather "Uncle" Alfred Dunn and Charlie Dunn Told me, Uncle Alfred > >> lived in old 23rd, for over 100 years, died in 1943 just before he had >to > >> move out account the impounding of the water to form Kentucky Lake., He >nor > >> his 100 year old sister would talk much about some of the problems, >except > >> from what he said he was always the arbitrator between those having > >> problems. You know he lived near the MtZion Church. > >> > >> I do recall Perry in his book mentions there are things you do not >discuss > >> as pertaining to the Old 23rd. I guess if some of the Walls of the old > >> church could talk they would have a great many stories to tell. > > > >Hope Grandpa and the new Granddaughter both still getting ready for >Christmas > >with a lot of Joy in their Hearts. > > > >> Ira > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

In a message dated 12/16/01 4:34:30 PM Central Standard Time, dlsnow1@qwest.net writes: > Ira and Hurley Dortch. I know the Dortches of the 23rd, but how > >does this Hurley fit in to the moonshine deal? Also, who might Ira be? > Hello Dave: > Reference the above, I do not know if I am the Ira he is talking about, but > I don't recall too much about the old 23rd except what My Great > Grandfather "Uncle" Alfred Dunn and Charlie Dunn Told me, Uncle Alfred > lived in old 23rd, for over 100 years, died in 1943 just before he had to > move out account the impounding of the water to form Kentucky Lake., He nor > his 100 year old sister would talk much about some of the problems, except > from what he said he was always the arbitrator between those having > problems. You know he lived near the MtZion Church. > > I do recall Perry in his book mentions there are things you do not discuss > as pertaining to the Old 23rd. I guess if some of the Walls of the old > church could talk they would have a great many stories to tell. Hope Grandpa and the new Granddaughter both still getting ready for Christmas with a lot of Joy in their Hearts. > Ira

Hey Dave - ALL us women aren't cranky!!! I'm sweet, loveable, easy going, patient, hard working, never complain, etc. etc., etc. LOL Leslie ---- Original Message ----- From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:33 PM Subject: Re: You're the Ira.... Come on Ira...... How many Ira's do think exist in the DC area.......????? You, I and alot others know that that Mt. Zion area was something else......another time,.....another place. Baby is doing well ....hungry little sucker.....cranky....never knew women started so early. Thought that came later in life. Demanding........jeez....doesn't get HER WAY and ........ Used to be if ..."Mammas not happy.....Nobody's happy". We've changed that to if 'Baby's not happy.....you know the rest. But, she's fun.......and now I am able to get Revenge on my 'ungrateful' daughters...... NOBODY CAN SPOIL A KID LIKE A GRANDPARENT.........YEAH !!!!!!!!!! Take care, Dave ------------------------------------------------- At 03:14 PM 12/20/01 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 12/16/01 4:34:30 PM Central Standard Time, >dlsnow1@qwest.net writes: > >> Ira and Hurley Dortch. I know the Dortches of the 23rd, but how >> >does this Hurley fit in to the moonshine deal? Also, who might Ira be? >> >Hello Dave: > >> Reference the above, I do not know if I am the Ira he is talking about, but >> I don't recall too much about the old 23rd except what My Great >> Grandfather "Uncle" Alfred Dunn and Charlie Dunn Told me, Uncle Alfred >> lived in old 23rd, for over 100 years, died in 1943 just before he had to >> move out account the impounding of the water to form Kentucky Lake., He nor >> his 100 year old sister would talk much about some of the problems, except >> from what he said he was always the arbitrator between those having >> problems. You know he lived near the MtZion Church. >> >> I do recall Perry in his book mentions there are things you do not discuss >> as pertaining to the Old 23rd. I guess if some of the Walls of the old >> church could talk they would have a great many stories to tell. > >Hope Grandpa and the new Granddaughter both still getting ready for Christmas >with a lot of Joy in their Hearts. > >> Ira > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ???

Come on Ira...... How many Ira's do think exist in the DC area.......????? You, I and alot others know that that Mt. Zion area was something else......another time,.....another place. Baby is doing well ....hungry little sucker.....cranky....never knew women started so early. Thought that came later in life. Demanding........jeez....doesn't get HER WAY and ........ Used to be if ..."Mammas not happy.....Nobody's happy". We've changed that to if 'Baby's not happy.....you know the rest. But, she's fun.......and now I am able to get Revenge on my 'ungrateful' daughters...... NOBODY CAN SPOIL A KID LIKE A GRANDPARENT.........YEAH !!!!!!!!!! Take care, Dave ------------------------------------------------- At 03:14 PM 12/20/01 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 12/16/01 4:34:30 PM Central Standard Time, >dlsnow1@qwest.net writes: > >> Ira and Hurley Dortch. I know the Dortches of the 23rd, but how >> >does this Hurley fit in to the moonshine deal? Also, who might Ira be? >> >Hello Dave: > >> Reference the above, I do not know if I am the Ira he is talking about, but >> I don't recall too much about the old 23rd except what My Great >> Grandfather "Uncle" Alfred Dunn and Charlie Dunn Told me, Uncle Alfred >> lived in old 23rd, for over 100 years, died in 1943 just before he had to >> move out account the impounding of the water to form Kentucky Lake., He nor >> his 100 year old sister would talk much about some of the problems, except >> from what he said he was always the arbitrator between those having >> problems. You know he lived near the MtZion Church. >> >> I do recall Perry in his book mentions there are things you do not discuss >> as pertaining to the Old 23rd. I guess if some of the Walls of the old >> church could talk they would have a great many stories to tell. > >Hope Grandpa and the new Granddaughter both still getting ready for Christmas >with a lot of Joy in their Hearts. > >> Ira > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! >

Sugar & Spice.....and everything nice.....are what girls are made of.... So the Rhyme says .... and I won't go there <vbg>....but....my good deed for the day... Since anyone who's attempting to discover there ancestors is of the inquisitive type.....let me take you very, very, very...alot of 'verys' far back to: (never stop 'learning' ......it's one of greatest sins of mankind).... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1719000/1719236.stm 'Sugar'.....very primitive