Dave, You do what God tells you to do. Just MARK THE SITE! That's the memorial. What makes us US is with God at death, but the little guy deserves a marker to let everyone know he was here, even for that short while. I'll pray for peace in your heart. Love, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: David L Snow Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:52 PM To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Need some counsel.. Struggled with 'this' for a longtime...ere...25 years... Could use 'you guys' thoughts...being an 'ole Chicago guy'...as I am....... 'Told my folks, I'd see them in Wisconsin, just North of the Dells at my Grandmothers place, the next day.... Diane told her folks, we we're leaving that afternoon for my Grandmothers' place.....". Needless to stay, WE LIED.....we spent the night together at my folks place...... Married her, I did..... Few months latter....Diane gave birth to our son.....Thomas Christopher Snow.....Feb. 20, 1968 Born prematurely.....I called our Pastor and respirated Thomas until he arrived....(things were not as they are today for neo-natal births).... Pastor baptized Thomas....and I continued to help him breath as long as I could.....he died in my hands......all 1 lb. 9 ozs of him......... Buried Thomas in the Church graveyard where only I and my mother attended the 'ceremony' by our Pastor..... Diane and I divorced after 7 years.......((took-up with Debby McKenzie instead (what a joke that turned into....Paula Jones ain't got nothing on her...nor Monica))... Thomas has lain alone for over 30 years without a 'marker'......I don't want him to go thru Eternity that way.....not because of my mistakes.....I loved his mother....she was a good women...... Some options here...... 1. Leave Thomas alone and place a granite 'marker' over his grave......(which is what my company does...I own it..)... 2. Over half-a-century ago my Grandmother bought an eight grave plot for her family....even though she had eight kids...(haven't figured out how she planned putting 8 kids into the remaining 5 grave-sites)....doesn't matter...you and I know the answer here...I've prepaid the perpetual-care on the site for Eternity (unlike alot of the gravesites in the DanvilleCrossing area)..... My Grandmother loved kids...probably why she had so many...(my comment....knowing her).... My thoughts are to move Thomas next to her and be next to him when I die...... Your thoughts.... Dave ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... Now What ????Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Dave, I've had much the same struggle----14 Aug 1968---he lived 3 hours---he's buried where my Dad will someday be. Although the cemetary has records and their plat shows where his grave is, there is no marker because my husband (his Dad) has always said it would be a waste of money to put a maker on his grave. (I've vowed to out-live my husband just so I can put a maker on the baby's grave before I put one on his!) My husband and I bought our cemetary lots when we were 25-years-old (at my insistance). They happen to be across the road from where my Dad and step-Mom will be buried---and my 1st-born son. I asked the cemetary about moving my baby across the street to be with me (wanted it done when I die so we could be buried together). I was quiet bluntly told that they probably couldn't find anything to move! I may have another option (for myself). My Dad bought 4 plots and my baby is buried in the corner of one. The cemetary folks say they won't consider that plot as "taken" so Daddy still has the 4 plots. My mother-in-law has recently decided she doesn't want to be buried in Stewart County and I full-well expect my husband to decide to bury her with "us". I have news for him! (We might have had a marriage if it hadn't been for his family and their interferance---and I'll be damned if I'm going to be buried anywhere near my mother-in-law!) My parents gave me the plot where my baby is buried so when my descendants come to the cemetary to "dig bones", they will probably find me and my son on one side of the road with my parents---and my husband across the street with his mother! My children and oldest granddaughter know my wishes and my reasons---and it's all detailed in my genealogy notes. What's the possibility of you being buried beside Thomas? (And, have you considered that Diane might want to be buried near him, too?) Put a marker on Thomas's grave and be sure to put that he was the "son of. . ." on the marker. Be sure that you tell others about Thomas--take them to his grave and tell them the story of how he died in your arms. Don't try to move him after all these years. As I was so bluntly reminded, the body returns to dust---it's the spirit/soul that lives! Sandy Ellis

I'd say move the little tyke next to his great grandma. Gena

I think your thoughts are right the baby has been alone for too long. When we all rise from our graves he'll have you there for him. BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:50 AM Subject: Need some counsel.. Struggled with 'this' for a longtime...ere...25 years... Could use 'you guys' thoughts...being an 'ole Chicago guy'...as I am....... 'Told my folks, I'd see them in Wisconsin, just North of the Dells at my Grandmothers place, the next day.... Diane told her folks, we we're leaving that afternoon for my Grandmothers' place.....". Needless to stay, WE LIED.....we spent the night together at my folks place...... Married her, I did..... Few months latter....Diane gave birth to our son.....Thomas Christopher Snow.....Feb. 20, 1968 Born prematurely.....I called our Pastor and respirated Thomas until he arrived....(things were not as they are today for neo-natal births).... Pastor baptized Thomas....and I continued to help him breath as long as I could.....he died in my hands......all 1 lb. 9 ozs of him......... Buried Thomas in the Church graveyard where only I and my mother attended the 'ceremony' by our Pastor..... Diane and I divorced after 7 years.......((took-up with Debby McKenzie instead (what a joke that turned into....Paula Jones ain't got nothing on her...nor Monica))... Thomas has lain alone for over 30 years without a 'marker'......I don't want him to go thru Eternity that way.....not because of my mistakes.....I loved his mother....she was a good women...... Some options here...... 1. Leave Thomas alone and place a granite 'marker' over his grave......(which is what my company does...I own it..)... 2. Over half-a-century ago my Grandmother bought an eight grave plot for her family....even though she had eight kids...(haven't figured out how she planned putting 8 kids into the remaining 5 grave-sites)....doesn't matter...you and I know the answer here...I've prepaid the perpetual-care on the site for Eternity (unlike alot of the gravesites in the DanvilleCrossing area)..... My Grandmother loved kids...probably why she had so many...(my comment....knowing her).... My thoughts are to move Thomas next to her and be next to him when I die...... Your thoughts.... Dave ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... Now What ????

I am sorry I have the wrong birthday for Emaline Moody, Born, January 26 1813. The other birthdate was her Husband's Williamson Roby Williams. Sorry Lillian Moody Kerr

Thomas Moody, was my ggGrandfather, His wife's name was Sarah, Do not know Maiden name. Children: All born in What is now Henry Co. Tn. Evaline--Born March 17, 1812, on a farm, on a creek called Big Sandy. Isabella------ Cullen William John A. -----Born about 1825 Greene---- Sure hope you can help, THANKS A MILLION. Lillian Kerr

Hey Stubby, You're a Hoot...!!!!!!! Sorry for your loss...but then, maybe not..LOL.... Did 'They' tell you....'You can do better' than Her...??? Suspect they have..'they're' right, ya know.... Think you already have.... Dave PS: Between you & me.....this is a very 'big' problem facing society now......50+ year old women seperated from their husbands of many years....tell you a story later..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- At 10:05 PM 1/15/02 -0800, you wrote: >They find they cann't go to their Mom because she is my ex. and New >Boyfriend ( 7 years now) LOL doesn't want em around.Her loss my gain. >----- Original Message ----- >From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> >To: TJstubby <TJStubby@msn.com>; <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:25 AM >Subject: Re: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? > > >> At 09:07 PM 1/15/02 -0800, TJstubby wrote: >> >> Hey Dad, >> >> 3 Daughters, but only 1 grand-daughter..... >> >> Appreciate your reply (surprised at a Dad answering my question.....you're >> the wrong gender to the question posed)... >> >> But...take what I can get.... >> >> Stubby.....your girls ever ask you about how YOU felt about the how they >> MOTHERED ??? >> >> Let me say this...for a daughter to ask her father what his thoughts are >> concerning her performance as a Mother, is a significant compliment to >him, >> in that, his daughter has enough respect of him to consider his opinion to >> be important....she believes his judgement (by what he tried to teach her >> as worthy).... >> >> Yea...Nay....???? >> >> Dave >> >> >3 Daughter 5 grandaughters : You don't know until their raised Hon.Just >Love >> >em and do what is best for you and them. Dad >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> >> >To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:48 AM >> >Subject: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? >> > >> > >> >> Whooaaa...........got THIS question last night...from my daughter with >a 2 >> >> month year old..... >> >> >> >> Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... >> >> >> >> Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later >...to >> >> both the Men and the Women on the list...seperately... >> >> >> >> Have a question before 'The Answer'....... >> >> >> >> I'm knew to this....but.... >> >> >> >> Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? >> >> >> >> Help me here........ >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> >> What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> >GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on... >> > >> >> >

At 09:07 PM 1/15/02 -0800, TJstubby wrote: Hey Dad, 3 Daughters, but only 1 grand-daughter..... Appreciate your reply (surprised at a Dad answering my question.....you're the wrong gender to the question posed)... But...take what I can get.... Stubby.....your girls ever ask you about how YOU felt about the how they MOTHERED ??? Let me say this...for a daughter to ask her father what his thoughts are concerning her performance as a Mother, is a significant compliment to him, in that, his daughter has enough respect of him to consider his opinion to be important....she believes his judgement (by what he tried to teach her as worthy).... Yea...Nay....???? Dave >3 Daughter 5 grandaughters : You don't know until their raised Hon.Just Love >em and do what is best for you and them. Dad >----- Original Message ----- >From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> >To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:48 AM >Subject: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? > > >> Whooaaa...........got THIS question last night...from my daughter with a 2 >> month year old..... >> >> Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... >> >> Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later ...to >> both the Men and the Women on the list...seperately... >> >> Have a question before 'The Answer'....... >> >> I'm knew to this....but.... >> >> Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? >> >> Help me here........ >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? >> >> >> >> > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on... >

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Whooaaa...........got THIS question last night...from my daughter with a 2 month year old..... Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later ...to both the Men and the Women on the list...seperately... Have a question before 'The Answer'....... I'm knew to this....but.... Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? Help me here........ Dave

Anyone on the List who lives in the Chicago-Land (or mid-to-lower Wisconsin) area that would be willing to help me with the local bureaucratics in attempting to move my son next to his Great-grandmother in Central Wisconsin..???? I live in Phoenix.....have to do some local 'leg-work' which is hard from here.. If you would be willing to help...I would appreciate it... If you can't...no problem....I understand....It's a small matter.. Spoke with my mother and aunts over the weekend...they agree...they would like Thomas next to their mother... Local Church and state bureaucratics are another issue... Wish to thank all of you who responded....Jan was correct...already knew the answer...which you confirmed with your thoughts. I am of Scandinavian origin (one generation removed), and have heard over the years an ancient saying (which I did not understand at the time, but got repeated to me again over the last few days from my aunts (tuff women, they are)...and am beginning to grasp it's meaning now): Low, there do I see my Father, There do I see my Mother, my Sisters & my Brothers. Low, there do I see the Line of my People, back to the Beginning. They call to me. They bid me take my place among Them, In the Halls of Vallhala, where the Brave may live Forever. Apologize if I have offended anybody with the introduction of a culture foreign to the group.... If you would be willing help me take Thomas home...I'd appreciate it... Dave

I'll take anything on GOODMAN or HOLLINGSWORTH. Thanks! Rene'

YES,YES, and YES, please upload Benton County records. Linda :)

Hello Folks, does any one have any information on a Urice Greer who ran the barber shop in Big Sandy in the early 1900. Found his name in the "Family and History of Benton Co" book. thanks DAL>

on 1/9/02 10:44 PM, LILLKERR@aol.com at LILLKERR@aol.com wrote: > Yes Please, > I am still looking for Thomas Moody, Henry Co. Tn. 1820-1830. > Help! > > Thanks Dave > Lillian > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" > as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ???? > I missed this one... Thomas Moody... HnCoTn 1820-1830.... will you give me more information...

Yes please. I still looking for Newton Clark of Humphreys pre 1900. Thanks, Jessie Hopwood

Yes Please, I am still looking for Thomas Moody, Henry Co. Tn. 1820-1830. Help! Thanks Dave Lillian

I am looking at a Land Grant issued by State of Kentucky for Grants South of the Walker Lines.(Northern Tennessee) County is Montgomery. River Creek or Stream in 1834 was called Barren and Flat Lick. Land Grant was issued on 4-1-1834 to Len Henly Johnson. Thanks Tony. I think there must be new names to these waterways. ----- Original Message ----- From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:21 AM Subject: Benton County Records > Folks, > > Anybody interested in having any of these (pre-1900) records uploaded to > the Web on the DC WebSite ???? > > Dave > > Forgot to add the Website........SORRY...... > > > http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/r&r/mfbent.htm > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... > Now What ???? > >

Do you have any information on the Moodys in Henry County, TN? My grandmother was a Moody and I have not been able to find anything on them. Thanks for you help in advance. Bill Owen LILLKERR@aol.com wrote: > Yes Please, > I am still looking for Thomas Moody, Henry Co. Tn. 1820-1830. > Help! > > Thanks Dave > Lillian > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" > as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ????

***GENERAL INVITATION TO THE FAMILIES OF THE SETTLERS OF EAST TN WHO CAME FROM EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING KENTUCKY, VIRGINIA, & NORTH CAROLINA*** *ATTENTION BELOW SURNAMES AND MORE, IF YOU WANT TO JOIN US* BROWN, COFFMAN/KAUFFMAN, KINCAID, RAMSEY, BLACKBURN, KIRKPATRICK, SEABORN, GILPIN/GILPEN, PALMER, NORWOOD, SAMPLE, ROACH, HOOK, LAWSON, CHILDERS, WARWICK, HAVENS, HAYES, MACKLIN/MCCLAIN/MCLAIN, MCCLOUD, MCDOWELL, KINEHEAD, WOOD, BUNCH, OWEN, PARKER, RENFRO/RENTFREW/RENTFRO, ATCHLEY, CATE, ELDER, FRAKER, SANDS, WILLIAMS, SMITH, COX, HUNTER/JAGER/YAGER, OGG, CONNER, LARUE, WALLACE, BRADLEY,GRAVES, CLARK, TILLERY, OSBORN, CANNON, STRICKLAND, ARNOLD, WYRICK, BRUCE, ATKINS, SHELTON, DUGGER, LEGG, POUNDERS ---------------------------------------- what: HOMECOMING/REUNION 2002 who: Pioneer Families of East TN, KY, and VA when: JULY 13-14 where: Bell's Campground Bell's Campground Rd. Powell, Knox Co., TN Powell, Tennessee, is a suburb of Knoxville and is located in North Knox County. Bell's Campground is off of Clinton Hwy. (directions from Terri on request). Those needing hotel/motel accommodations will need to make them in North Knoxville. **STATEMENT OF INTENT** This is an open invitation to attend the 2nd annual homecoming/reunion of our pioneer families that settled, lived, raised their children, and sometimes died in this area. Some sank deep roots and others moved on, scattering our ancestors from coast to coast. Our purpose is to have fun, get acquainted, and swap genealogical information. The above is a list of the families which we know for sure had ties in early East Tennessee and the ones we have some information on. However, if you have a surname that you wish to add, please contact Terri Brown Jurca at <CousinsCom1@hotmail.com> or Carl Coffman at <CousinsCom2@hotmail.com>. All we ask is that you be willing to act as host or hostess/greeter for your surname and to share whatever info you have available. ALL surnames are welcome to attend whether your name is listed here or not! There will be a wealth of information to share. Plan on attending please! We would love to have volunteers for all the names on the list (except Brown and Coffman, which we have well-covered) to act as co-hosts/co-hostesses to greet and help people with their surname feel welcome and to help them meet researchers working on the same surname. To those of you with East TN roots who don't have much extended family and therefore don't have a reunion, this is your chance to bring your immediate family members and join ours. We want everyone to have fun, feel welcomed, and enjoy themselves. **That's What Tennessee Stands For: THE VOLUNTEER STATE ** "Where pride walks and the flag flies!"** We know that we have some college instructors attending who perhaps can be persuaded to speak. We also have experts and accredited genealogist who have been researching for 30 plus years. 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It was a resounding success for a first attempt, and it was agreed that it should become an annual event. This area is so very rich in history, both as an Indian frontier and as an isolated jewel of Union sympathy during the Civil War. It also served as a departure point for westward movement and new settlement. Our ancestors left us a rich heritage, which we are striving to preserve and pass on to our children and grandchildren. This rich tapestry of ideals and values is what made us a great nation and what made each of us what we are today. And it began with our earliest immigrant ancestors who came here to start a new life and a new country. COME and SHARE that heritage with us on July 13-14. We are looking forward to making many new friends!! Sincerely, Terri Brown Jurca: <CousinsCom1@hotmail.com>, 5509 Paula Rd., Knoxville, Tn 37912 Carl Coffman: <CousinsCom2@hotmail.com> 1448 S. 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