I did ask my dad that question...but only once! His reply was not an answer but a question.. 'Was I a good Father?' lol ...case closed.... I think we all have questioned ourselves on this one. All we can do is pass on those things we learned ourselves as children, give them love and hope for the future, teach them respect and honor, show them the way to Our Lord....then keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best!! Both my son and daughter have turned out pretty darned good and I am proud they are my children...even prouder of my two beautiful grandsons!! >From: Pozzydaz@aol.com >Reply-To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? >Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:56:41 EST > >Do you realize that parenting is the biggest job in the world and it >doesn't >come with a manuel of instructions and carries no warranty or guarantee, >and >definitely no returns. > >Pozzydaz > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Hey Dave - explain further the problem of 50 plus women separated from their husbands of many years................................................ I'm a 53 year old never married woman so I don't fit the above statement but do you mean there are a lot of good ex-husbands running around alone out there? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?!?!?!?!!? WHERE!!!!!!! Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? Hey Stubby, You're a Hoot...!!!!!!! Sorry for your loss...but then, maybe not..LOL.... Did 'They' tell you....'You can do better' than Her...??? Suspect they have..'they're' right, ya know.... Think you already have.... Dave PS: Between you & me.....this is a very 'big' problem facing society now......50+ year old women seperated from their husbands of many years....tell you a story later..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- At 10:05 PM 1/15/02 -0800, you wrote: >They find they cann't go to their Mom because she is my ex. and New >Boyfriend ( 7 years now) LOL doesn't want em around.Her loss my gain. >----- Original Message ----- >From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> >To: TJstubby <TJStubby@msn.com>; <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:25 AM >Subject: Re: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? > > >> At 09:07 PM 1/15/02 -0800, TJstubby wrote: >> >> Hey Dad, >> >> 3 Daughters, but only 1 grand-daughter..... >> >> Appreciate your reply (surprised at a Dad answering my question.....you're >> the wrong gender to the question posed)... >> >> But...take what I can get.... >> >> Stubby.....your girls ever ask you about how YOU felt about the how they >> MOTHERED ??? >> >> Let me say this...for a daughter to ask her father what his thoughts are >> concerning her performance as a Mother, is a significant compliment to >him, >> in that, his daughter has enough respect of him to consider his opinion to >> be important....she believes his judgement (by what he tried to teach her >> as worthy).... >> >> Yea...Nay....???? >> >> Dave >> >> >3 Daughter 5 grandaughters : You don't know until their raised Hon.Just >Love >> >em and do what is best for you and them. Dad >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> >> >To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:48 AM >> >Subject: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? >> > >> > >> >> Whooaaa...........got THIS question last night...from my daughter with >a 2 >> >> month year old..... >> >> >> >> Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... >> >> >> >> Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later >...to >> >> both the Men and the Women on the list...seperately... >> >> >> >> Have a question before 'The Answer'....... >> >> >> >> I'm knew to this....but.... >> >> >> >> Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? >> >> >> >> Help me here........ >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> >> What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> >GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on... >> > >> >> > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ????

Dave, Not only do we ask our fathers, but, then we have the tables turned on us. My daughter with a six month old, asks about once a week, "Do you think I'm a good Mom" or " Do you think I'm mean because I put her down" or "Because I let her cry for a little while?" We just need confirmation that we are doing the right thing, from someone who's been there before us. Next time she asks, just give her a hug and tell her she's doing great and if she ever needs your help that you will be there for her. (Just two-cents from a first-time grandma) Hope it helps. Ronda

Yes Dan - that is a good reflection on you - she trusts and wants your judgment. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: Re: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? At 09:07 PM 1/15/02 -0800, TJstubby wrote: Hey Dad, 3 Daughters, but only 1 grand-daughter..... Appreciate your reply (surprised at a Dad answering my question.....you're the wrong gender to the question posed)... But...take what I can get.... Stubby.....your girls ever ask you about how YOU felt about the how they MOTHERED ??? Let me say this...for a daughter to ask her father what his thoughts are concerning her performance as a Mother, is a significant compliment to him, in that, his daughter has enough respect of him to consider his opinion to be important....she believes his judgement (by what he tried to teach her as worthy).... Yea...Nay....???? Dave >3 Daughter 5 grandaughters : You don't know until their raised Hon.Just Love >em and do what is best for you and them. Dad >----- Original Message ----- >From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> >To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:48 AM >Subject: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? > > >> Whooaaa...........got THIS question last night...from my daughter with a 2 >> month year old..... >> >> Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... >> >> Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later ...to >> both the Men and the Women on the list...seperately... >> >> Have a question before 'The Answer'....... >> >> I'm knew to this....but.... >> >> Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? >> >> Help me here........ >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? >> >> >> >> > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on... > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... Now What ????

Dave - since I'm not a Dad and I've never been a mother I can't give a specific answer on this, but I WILL tell you that I spent my whole life trying to get my Daddy's approval on EVERYTHING!!!!! It has always been important for me to have his approval and has always pleased me when I had his word of approval on something. Perhaps she'd had a bad day, a lonely day..... Maybe someone had made a statement that hurt her and she just wanted her daddy's approval We get older but we still have those times we just want to go to our daddy and have his put his arms around us and make everything alright Days when we just get tired, hurt, lonely, feel down and want daddy to "fix it" Leslie > > Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... > > Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later ...to > both the Men and the Women on the list...separately... > > Have a question before 'The Answer'....... > > I'm knew to this....but.... > > Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? > > Help me here........ > > Dave > > > > ==== Danville Mailing List ==== > What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > > > > ==== Danville Mailing List ==== GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on...

3 Daughter 5 grandaughters : You don't know until their raised Hon.Just Love em and do what is best for you and them. Dad ----- Original Message ----- From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:48 AM Subject: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? > Whooaaa...........got THIS question last night...from my daughter with a 2 > month year old..... > > Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... > > Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later ...to > both the Men and the Women on the list...seperately... > > Have a question before 'The Answer'....... > > I'm knew to this....but.... > > Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? > > Help me here........ > > Dave > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > > > >

I've never read that saying before. It's beautiful. Good luck, Peggy

Leslie, It's late...I'm tired....and after a couple drinks -- loose-tongued.... But....what I have to say may help everyones pain...yours and mine included..... I have lain with a women for over half my life..raised adopted kids..who are now 18 and, Ash will be 20 on the 19th,..with a 2 month old....... I'm a lite sleeper, by nature......and have listened to Deb's dreams (she talks, what can I say) for almost 30 years (she snores also.... after putting on a 'few' pounds)....... What's 'bad' is that she 'talks' to her parents in her dreams as a 12 year old.....and I guess, if I was on the 'kinky side', I'd enjoy sleeping with a 12 year old...but...I don't.....I like my wife, at her natural age....(even if today is her Birthday and she is 52.....and you know.....I'm going to take a beating for disclosing ALL of THIS)...but....what are friends for....... Leslie, I hate Deb's parents for what they have done to her ..she's my WIFE and not their CHILD ANYMORE....She will probably end-up changing their diapers........ She has spent more time as a Wife in OUR Bed (and I know 'every inch' of THIS women) and a Mother to OUR Children, than she EVER SPENT in her parents household.......and to watch this 50+ year old women (my Wife & Children's Mother) kowtow to her parents for ACCEPTANCE, when they decide to come around ....is a Vulgar SIN.......... I have much more to say on this subject........no Parent should EVER do to their child what Deb's parents have done to her.....but...polite oration on this List requires that I not express myself in the fashion in which I would like....and I am bond to exceed thoughs limits if I speak much further...... Another time.........I will do better..... Dave ------------------------------------------------------------- At 12:52 AM 1/16/02 -0600, Leslie Moore wrote: >Dave - since I'm not a Dad and I've never been a mother I can't give a >specific answer on this, but I WILL tell you that I spent my whole life >trying to get my Daddy's approval on EVERYTHING!!!!! It has always been >important for me to have his approval and has always pleased me when I had >his word of approval on something. > >Perhaps she'd had a bad day, a lonely day..... >Maybe someone had made a statement that hurt her and she just wanted her >daddy's approval >We get older but we still have those times we just want to go to our daddy >and have his put his arms around us and make everything alright >Days when we just get tired, hurt, lonely, feel down and want daddy to "fix >it" > >Leslie > > > > >> >> Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... >> >> Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later ...to >> both the Men and the Women on the list...separately... >> >> Have a question before 'The Answer'....... >> >> I'm knew to this....but.... >> >> Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? >> >> Help me here........ >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ==== Danville Mailing List ==== >> What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? >> >> >> >> > > >==== Danville Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on... > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my grandparents didn't have any kids ??? >

Leslie, She did (have a 'Bad' day)...and I did (give her a Hug)....she's my daughter...I love her... Dave ------------------------------------------------- At 12:52 AM 1/16/02 -0600, Leslie Moore wrote: >Dave - since I'm not a Dad and I've never been a mother I can't give a >specific answer on this, but I WILL tell you that I spent my whole life >trying to get my Daddy's approval on EVERYTHING!!!!! It has always been >important for me to have his approval and has always pleased me when I had >his word of approval on something. > >Perhaps she'd had a bad day, a lonely day..... >Maybe someone had made a statement that hurt her and she just wanted her >daddy's approval >We get older but we still have those times we just want to go to our daddy >and have his put his arms around us and make everything alright >Days when we just get tired, hurt, lonely, feel down and want daddy to "fix >it" > >Leslie > > > > >> >> Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... >> >> Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later ...to >> both the Men and the Women on the list...separately... >> >> Have a question before 'The Answer'....... >> >> I'm knew to this....but.... >> >> Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? >> >> Help me here........ >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ==== Danville Mailing List ==== >> What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? >> >> >> >> > > >==== Danville Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on... > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my grandparents didn't have any kids ??? >

Ronda, I have (to the 1st part), and did (to the 2nd part)..... She's a 'good' Mom (my comment)......she asks...she cares....... That's 'all' thats' important.......she'll do well..... She has learned...I'm proud of her... I appreciate your response...I truley do.... I'll tell you about Ash & Izabel later... (WeeBee & 'Boom-Boom Dancer')....(I'm going to take a hit from her for that one.....Family Nicknames are very personal to her).. Right now....I'm going to have a smoke and a drink, and go to bed..... Dave At 01:12 AM 1/16/02 -0500, Tinitiger6@aol.com wrote: >Dave, > >Not only do we ask our fathers, but, then we have the tables turned on us. >My daughter with a six month old, asks about once a week, "Do you think I'm a >good Mom" or " Do you think I'm mean because I put her down" or "Because I >let her cry for a little while?" We just need confirmation that we are doing >the right thing, from someone who's been there before us. Next time she >asks, just give her a hug and tell her she's doing great and if she ever >needs your help that you will be there for her. >(Just two-cents from a first-time grandma) Hope it helps. > >Ronda > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! >

Ronda, I have (to the 1st part), and did (to the 2nd part)..... She's a 'good' Mom (my comment)......she asks...she cares....... That's 'all' thats' important.......she'll do well..... She has learned...I'm proud of her... I appreciate your response...I truley do.... I'll tell you about Ash & Izabel later... (WeeBee & 'Boom-Boom Dancer')....(I'm going to take a hit from her for that one.....Family Nicknames are very personal to her).. Right now....I'm going to have a smoke and a drink, and go to bed..... Dave At 01:12 AM 1/16/02 -0500, Tinitiger6@aol.com wrote: >Dave, > >Not only do we ask our fathers, but, then we have the tables turned on us. >My daughter with a six month old, asks about once a week, "Do you think I'm a >good Mom" or " Do you think I'm mean because I put her down" or "Because I >let her cry for a little while?" We just need confirmation that we are doing >the right thing, from someone who's been there before us. Next time she >asks, just give her a hug and tell her she's doing great and if she ever >needs your help that you will be there for her. >(Just two-cents from a first-time grandma) Hope it helps. > >Ronda > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! >

Hi Dave. We all have hard decisions to make in life. Of course we all think the we have the hardest. I agree with Susan D. There is no right or wrong answer here, what ever makes your heart lighter and your mind at ease. Good luck in your decision.Wil

I agree with Donna. This is what would give me peace in my heart. ----- Original Message ----- From: "donna y." <redpepperdm@hotmail.com> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Need some counsel.. > Dave...there's no one in this world that has not had thoughts > of 'shoulda..woulda...coulda', myself included. The decision > is yours to make and I have faith you will make the right one. > > But if Thomas were mine...I'd bring him home to rest with you > and his ancestors. He's already met them in Heaven. I think > he would want to lie down here with his grgrandmother and his > Dad thru Eternity. > > And this I just have to say... In my book, Dave Snow, you a > one hell of a man!!!! > > Will keep you in my prayers... > > Hugs > Donna > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... > >Now What ???? > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: > They Hide & I Seek !! > > > > > >

Dear David....For what it is worth, whatever your decision, please remeber that neither decision will be wrong. Little Thomas is not alone. He went from your arms to the arms of his Heavenly Father that sad day, long ago. He has never been alone, and never will be. Don't trouble your heart over where his body rests. Ultimately, if it remains in place or you move it, will not matter, except to you. He is not there, he is in heaven. Do what gives you the greatest comfort and peace. Susan _____________________________________________________________

I see nothing wrong with that...pray about it and do what gives you peace From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> Reply-To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 03:50:11 -0700 To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Need some counsel.. Resent-From: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 17:49:40 -0700 Struggled with 'this' for a longtime...ere...25 years... Could use 'you guys' thoughts...being an 'ole Chicago guy'...as I am....... 'Told my folks, I'd see them in Wisconsin, just North of the Dells at my Grandmothers place, the next day.... Diane told her folks, we we're leaving that afternoon for my Grandmothers' place.....". Needless to stay, WE LIED.....we spent the night together at my folks place...... Married her, I did..... Few months latter....Diane gave birth to our son.....Thomas Christopher Snow.....Feb. 20, 1968 Born prematurely.....I called our Pastor and respirated Thomas until he arrived....(things were not as they are today for neo-natal births).... Pastor baptized Thomas....and I continued to help him breath as long as I could.....he died in my hands......all 1 lb. 9 ozs of him......... Buried Thomas in the Church graveyard where only I and my mother attended the 'ceremony' by our Pastor..... Diane and I divorced after 7 years.......((took-up with Debby McKenzie instead (what a joke that turned into....Paula Jones ain't got nothing on her...nor Monica))... Thomas has lain alone for over 30 years without a 'marker'......I don't want him to go thru Eternity that way.....not because of my mistakes.....I loved his mother....she was a good women...... Some options here...... 1. Leave Thomas alone and place a granite 'marker' over his grave......(which is what my company does...I own it..)... 2. Over half-a-century ago my Grandmother bought an eight grave plot for her family....even though she had eight kids...(haven't figured out how she planned putting 8 kids into the remaining 5 grave-sites)....doesn't matter...you and I know the answer here...I've prepaid the perpetual-care on the site for Eternity (unlike alot of the gravesites in the DanvilleCrossing area)..... My Grandmother loved kids...probably why she had so many...(my comment....knowing her).... My thoughts are to move Thomas next to her and be next to him when I die...... Your thoughts.... Dave ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... Now What ????

I've never asked my dad nor my mom that question, but I have asked myself. My kids are grown now. Occasionally, doubt creeps in and I look back, ask myself and wonder if I was good enough, did I make the right decisions concerning their lives, could I have done something different to make their future better. Life goes on...it seems they turned out pretty fine. I'm close to all three and think they will be good parents when they have children. From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> Reply-To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 03:48:29 -0700 To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? Resent-From: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:45:03 -0700 Whooaaa...........got THIS question last night...from my daughter with a 2 month year old..... Slapped me 'upside the face'....she did... Haven't sorted 'it' all out yet......I'll tell you my answer later ...to both the Men and the Women on the list...seperately... Have a question before 'The Answer'....... I'm knew to this....but.... Do you Women always ask this question of your Fathers ????? Help me here........ Dave ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ???

>Dave, I suspect your heart already knows the answer. Listen to your heart, pal. That is all that will truly bring you peace. jan >----- Original Message ----- >From: David L Snow >Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:52 PM >To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Need some counsel.. > >Struggled with 'this' for a longtime...ere...25 years... > >Could use 'you guys' thoughts...being an 'ole Chicago guy'...as I am....... > >'Told my folks, I'd see them in Wisconsin, just North of the Dells at my >Grandmothers place, the next day.... > >Diane told her folks, we we're leaving that afternoon for my Grandmothers' >place.....". > >Needless to stay, WE LIED.....we spent the night together at my folks >place...... > >Married her, I did..... > >Few months latter....Diane gave birth to our son.....Thomas Christopher >Snow.....Feb. 20, 1968 > >Born prematurely.....I called our Pastor and respirated Thomas until he >arrived....(things were not as they are today for neo-natal births).... > >Pastor baptized Thomas....and I continued to help him breath as long as I >could.....he died in my hands......all 1 lb. 9 ozs of him......... > >Buried Thomas in the Church graveyard where only I and my mother attended >the 'ceremony' by our Pastor..... > >Diane and I divorced after 7 years.......((took-up with Debby McKenzie >instead (what a joke that turned into....Paula Jones ain't got nothing on >her...nor Monica))... > >Thomas has lain alone for over 30 years without a 'marker'......I don't >want him to go thru Eternity that way.....not because of my mistakes.....I >loved his mother....she was a good women...... > >Some options here...... > >1. Leave Thomas alone and place a granite 'marker' over his >grave......(which is what my company does...I own it..)... > >2. Over half-a-century ago my Grandmother bought an eight grave plot for >her family....even though she had eight kids...(haven't figured out how she >planned putting 8 kids into the remaining 5 grave-sites)....doesn't >matter...you and I know the answer here...I've prepaid the perpetual-care >on the site for Eternity (unlike alot of the gravesites in the >DanvilleCrossing area)..... > >My Grandmother loved kids...probably why she had so many...(my >comment....knowing her).... > >My thoughts are to move Thomas next to her and be next to him when I die...... > >Your thoughts.... > >Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... >Now What ????Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ??

Dave, I like your idea, to put Little Thomas, next to your Grandmother. God Bless You. Lillian

Dave...there's no one in this world that has not had thoughts of 'shoulda..woulda...coulda', myself included. The decision is yours to make and I have faith you will make the right one. But if Thomas were mine...I'd bring him home to rest with you and his ancestors. He's already met them in Heaven. I think he would want to lie down here with his grgrandmother and his Dad thru Eternity. And this I just have to say... In my book, Dave Snow, you a one hell of a man!!!! Will keep you in my prayers... Hugs Donna >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... >Now What ???? > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

I just wish you well. Bonnie