Thanks pal...didn't know those McElroys were railroaders...hmmmm. I did know they got themselves into a mite of trouble in the Revolution tho. <BG> Came running this direction to keep their skins. LOL! jan At 06:00 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: >Jan, > >Try the eastern isle of the UK....Irish....they came later to build the >Railroads out of New England in the 1850's... > >Another story......with the Butlers who built Ira's RR's.....HE can HELP >you with the McElroy's.....ask him...he's got some good history here..... > >Also, check the 'Special' 1850 RR Census......Look to the Benton Co. >Website for an example....... > >Dave > >At 07:05 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > >I only got one of those "Mc's" in my heritage, Dave. <BG> McElroy. Now > >canya do anything with that one?? And be nice. > > > >jan > > > >At 05:29 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > >>YES YOU DO.......but....there's a secret you'll don't know...about > >>'Septs'.....sub-groups <got'cha> ....ignorance is sometimes > >>..Bliss..sometmes it cuts your heart out.........'McRea' for example, is a > >>Sept...of Clan MacKenzie...so are the McLoeds (this is McClouds).........do > >>your homework......not many in the local area have escaped the the Scottish > >>'curse'... > >> > >>Dave > >> > >>At 04:57 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > >> >Wow, Dave! That is interesting! Do you have to be a McKenzie to be in > >> >those charts? All those my folks' stomping grounds, but I don't think I > >> >have a drop of McKenzie blood... > >> > > >> >At 03:18 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > >> >>In the Fall of 1824, a 49 year old Scott, crossed the Tennessee River, >from > >> >>near Erin in what is now Houston Co (that used to be Humphreys Co., and > >> >>then used to be Stewart Co.), and searched-out a new Homestead for his > >> >>family of 6, on Sugar Creek (near current-day Big Sandy) in Benton > County > >> >>(which used to be Barbados, which used to be Virginia, which used to be > >> >>Carolina, which used to be N. Carolina, which used to be Indian >Territory, > >> >>which used to be Humphreys County)......hoping to move his wife and >family > >> >>into a new home by Christmas....... > >> >> > >> >>Just after marring his young Scottish bride of 19, Nancy Beaton, on > >> >>February 13, 1812 in Stewart Co. at Dover., the then 38 year old Malcolm > >> >>McKenzie, joined Gen. Andrew Jackson (when he came thru the area > >> >>recruiting) to fight the British in the War of 1812. Malcolm was > >> >>reportedly 'Killed-in-Action' during the War, and Nancy received a >Widow's > >> >>Pension.....But then, Malcolm made a miraculous recovery from his > 'mortal > >> >>wounds' and returned home to receive only a 'wounded pension' from > the US > >> >>Government for his service...... > >> >> > >> >>Imagine if you would, what it might have been like in 1824, to enter > into > >> >>the Wilderness of then Humphreys County (which just a few years > prior had > >> >>been Indian Territory) and carve-out a new homestead.....alone.....for >your > >> >>wife and 6 kids. > >> >> > >> >>Malcom's parents (Gilbert & Margrette McKenzie) came to Wilmington, N. > >> >>Carolina in December 1774 after a 2 month voyage from Greenock, Scotland > >> >>aboard the ship, Diana. Margrette was pregnant with Malcolm during the > >> >>journey....she gave birth to Malcolm during the trip or shortley after > >> >>arriving in Wilmington. They left Scotland, after being reduced to > >> >>'bleeding' their cattle and drinking their blood to survive.....This is > >> >>another tale in itself...... > >> >> > >> >>Gilbert fought in the Revolutionary War with the British.....as did the > >> >>majority of Scotts who settled in the present day Carolinas and Georgia. > >> >>They suffered greatly after the War and their children (in this case > >> >>Malcolm) left the Raleigh area by 1812. Malcolm took the usual boat >route > >> >>from N. Carolina to Dover, Stewart Co. with a lot of the Scottish >Clans... > > >> >> > >> >>A little history......the names..Nancy and Ann... in Gaelic are the same > >> >>names.....contrary to popular belief....Nancy Beaton WAS NOT NAMED >...Nancy > >> >>ANN Beaton in 1793......that would be like calling President George > >> >>Bush....GEORGE GEORGE BUSH....her name was Nancy OR Ann...but NOT Nancy > >> >>Ann....it was Anglicized to Nancy Ann...... > >> >> > >> >>2nd....in Gaelic....surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite >prominent > >> >>in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the > >> >>same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'.......The Beatons' or Bethunes' are an > >> >>extrememly respected religous name in old Scotland....as they were the > >> >>priests and ministers of the Church.....and were the founders of the >Church > >> > >> >>of Canada after most of the N. Carolina Scotts went to Canada after the > >> >>Revolutionary War....... > >> >> > >> >>I will tell you the story later as to how these Scotts fought with the > >> >>English (and this is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT historical >note............it's > >> >>ENGLISH and not BRITISH......you offend Wales, Ireland and Scotland >(these > >> >>folks HATED the ENGLISH in 1774) by including them in the >Revolutionary War > >> >>as 'British' ........the War was fought with ENGLAND and NOT...Wales, > >> >>Ireland and Scotland.....it was.... TOTALLY ENGLISH.... > >> >> > >> >>More stories later..... > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>But...... > >> >> > >> >>I have, in hand, copies of the Royal Peerage Charts of the McKenzies > back > >> >>to the 11th Century.....I received them from the current Laird of the > >> >>MacKenzies as a gift thru the Clan McKenzie of Canada....for personal > >> >>research connecting the Clans settlements in the Americas after the >Battle > >> >>of Collouden Moor in April of 1745........ > >> >> > >> >>THese are very rare documents, as they are NOT available to the General > >> >>Public..... > >> >> > >> >>Three things..... > >> >> > >> >>1. These gen-charts, from the 1000's to the late 1800's, provide a > >> >>genealogical history to a number of you in Northern Benton Country > >> >>(particularly around Big Sandy) and the surrounding counties. If you >have > >> >>an interest in them...I will provide you a copy (at whatever it cost >me to > >> >>reproduce them)......let me know.... > >> >> > >> >>2. I have established the link between Gilbert (b. 1740), his son >Malcolm > >> >>(b. 1774) of Benton Co. and the Ancient MacKenzie Clan > >> >>gen-charts...........I leave 'the link' for you to discover on your own > >> >>however......It is important to me..that you do this >yourselves......if you > >> >>find the right connections....I will provide you with missing > >>documents...... > >> >> > >> >>3. However, those of you who are descendant of Malcolms' son, Gilbert, > >> >>thru his son Jethro, and subsequently Fred McKenzie (who married Grace > >> >>Thelma Wimberley in 1921) may not find these 'Charts" of interest....you > >> >>may want to look to the Robbins' family genealogy >instead.......There's an > >> >>old genealogical ryhme, which has stood the test of time, (making a new > >> >>ryhme here <vbg>)...that goes......'Mamas' Baby...Daddy's Maybe'....You > >> >>research it.... and figure it out..... > > >> >> > >> >>Dave > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> >>What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > >> > > >> > > >> >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > >> > > >> > >> > >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >>GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: > >>They Hide & I Seek !! > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ???

I only got one of those "Mc's" in my heritage, Dave. <BG> McElroy. Now canya do anything with that one?? And be nice. jan At 05:29 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: >YES YOU DO.......but....there's a secret you'll don't know...about >'Septs'.....sub-groups <got'cha> ....ignorance is sometimes >..Bliss..sometmes it cuts your heart out.........'McRea' for example, is a >Sept...of Clan MacKenzie...so are the McLoeds (this is McClouds).........do >your homework......not many in the local area have escaped the the Scottish >'curse'... > >Dave > >At 04:57 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > >Wow, Dave! That is interesting! Do you have to be a McKenzie to be in > >those charts? All those my folks' stomping grounds, but I don't think I > >have a drop of McKenzie blood... > > > >At 03:18 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > >>In the Fall of 1824, a 49 year old Scott, crossed the Tennessee River, from > >>near Erin in what is now Houston Co (that used to be Humphreys Co., and > >>then used to be Stewart Co.), and searched-out a new Homestead for his > >>family of 6, on Sugar Creek (near current-day Big Sandy) in Benton County > >>(which used to be Barbados, which used to be Virginia, which used to be > >>Carolina, which used to be N. Carolina, which used to be Indian Territory, > >>which used to be Humphreys County)......hoping to move his wife and family > >>into a new home by Christmas....... > >> > >>Just after marring his young Scottish bride of 19, Nancy Beaton, on > >>February 13, 1812 in Stewart Co. at Dover., the then 38 year old Malcolm > >>McKenzie, joined Gen. Andrew Jackson (when he came thru the area > >>recruiting) to fight the British in the War of 1812. Malcolm was > >>reportedly 'Killed-in-Action' during the War, and Nancy received a Widow's > >>Pension.....But then, Malcolm made a miraculous recovery from his 'mortal > >>wounds' and returned home to receive only a 'wounded pension' from the US > >>Government for his service...... > >> > >>Imagine if you would, what it might have been like in 1824, to enter into > >>the Wilderness of then Humphreys County (which just a few years prior had > >>been Indian Territory) and carve-out a new homestead.....alone.....for your > >>wife and 6 kids. > >> > >>Malcom's parents (Gilbert & Margrette McKenzie) came to Wilmington, N. > >>Carolina in December 1774 after a 2 month voyage from Greenock, Scotland > >>aboard the ship, Diana. Margrette was pregnant with Malcolm during the > >>journey....she gave birth to Malcolm during the trip or shortley after > >>arriving in Wilmington. They left Scotland, after being reduced to > >>'bleeding' their cattle and drinking their blood to survive.....This is > >>another tale in itself...... > >> > >>Gilbert fought in the Revolutionary War with the British.....as did the > >>majority of Scotts who settled in the present day Carolinas and Georgia. > >>They suffered greatly after the War and their children (in this case > >>Malcolm) left the Raleigh area by 1812. Malcolm took the usual boat route > >>from N. Carolina to Dover, Stewart Co. with a lot of the Scottish Clans... > >> > >>A little history......the names..Nancy and Ann... in Gaelic are the same > >>names.....contrary to popular belief....Nancy Beaton WAS NOT NAMED ...Nancy > >>ANN Beaton in 1793......that would be like calling President George > >>Bush....GEORGE GEORGE BUSH....her name was Nancy OR Ann...but NOT Nancy > >>Ann....it was Anglicized to Nancy Ann...... > >> > >>2nd....in Gaelic....surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite prominent > >>in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the > >>same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'.......The Beatons' or Bethunes' are an > >>extrememly respected religous name in old Scotland....as they were the > >>priests and ministers of the Church.....and were the founders of the Church > > >>of Canada after most of the N. Carolina Scotts went to Canada after the > >>Revolutionary War....... > >> > >>I will tell you the story later as to how these Scotts fought with the > >>English (and this is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT historical note............it's > >>ENGLISH and not BRITISH......you offend Wales, Ireland and Scotland (these > >>folks HATED the ENGLISH in 1774) by including them in the Revolutionary War > >>as 'British' ........the War was fought with ENGLAND and NOT...Wales, > >>Ireland and Scotland.....it was.... TOTALLY ENGLISH.... > >> > >>More stories later..... > >> > >> > >>But...... > >> > >>I have, in hand, copies of the Royal Peerage Charts of the McKenzies back > >>to the 11th Century.....I received them from the current Laird of the > >>MacKenzies as a gift thru the Clan McKenzie of Canada....for personal > >>research connecting the Clans settlements in the Americas after the Battle > >>of Collouden Moor in April of 1745........ > >> > >>THese are very rare documents, as they are NOT available to the General > >>Public..... > >> > >>Three things..... > >> > >>1. These gen-charts, from the 1000's to the late 1800's, provide a > >>genealogical history to a number of you in Northern Benton Country > >>(particularly around Big Sandy) and the surrounding counties. If you have > >>an interest in them...I will provide you a copy (at whatever it cost me to > >>reproduce them)......let me know.... > >> > >>2. I have established the link between Gilbert (b. 1740), his son Malcolm > >>(b. 1774) of Benton Co. and the Ancient MacKenzie Clan > >>gen-charts...........I leave 'the link' for you to discover on your own > >>however......It is important to me..that you do this yourselves......if you > >>find the right connections....I will provide you with missing >documents...... > >> > >>3. However, those of you who are descendant of Malcolms' son, Gilbert, > >>thru his son Jethro, and subsequently Fred McKenzie (who married Grace > >>Thelma Wimberley in 1921) may not find these 'Charts" of interest....you > >>may want to look to the Robbins' family genealogy instead.......There's an > >>old genealogical ryhme, which has stood the test of time, (making a new > >>ryhme here <vbg>)...that goes......'Mamas' Baby...Daddy's Maybe'....You > >>research it.... and figure it out..... > >> > >>Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >>What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: >They Hide & I Seek !!

<BG> Gee Dave, we thought you were stuttering. LOL! Your albatross has arrived At 05:22 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: >Folks.... > >I'm getting repeats....of messages to the List.... > >Could be a problem with my own server as Qwest tried to 'dump' off their >customers to Microsoft (who I and a lot ofthers despies and >refused.......hell, I'll take AOL over Microsoft......) > >Anyway.....suspect we have mu;tiple servers 'echoing' messages....... > >If you're receiving duplicates.....it will clear-up shortly..... > >Dave > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ???

Hi Dave, You mentioned the "surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite prominent in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'......." Have you ever heard of the surname BETHANY being an Anglicized version of those names. I have a Charles Homer BETHANY who was in Benton Co., TN from the mid-1840's to the mid-1860's. He migrated from Lincoln Co., TN or possibly AL. His wife, Margaret Couch Williams, died about 1860 in Benton Co. and he married Martha Angelina Pierce in Henry Co. July 8, 1861. I have records of BETHANY's in AL, GA, MS, SC, & NC from the 1730s to the present and all during that period. But I cannot find any documented connections between them & C. H. Any thoughts on whether this could be a distant relative of your Beatons or Bethunes? It is believed that the BETHANYs were also of Scottish descent. Thanks, Jean Cloke

Wow, Dave! That is interesting! Do you have to be a McKenzie to be in those charts? All those my folks' stomping grounds, but I don't think I have a drop of McKenzie blood... At 03:18 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: >In the Fall of 1824, a 49 year old Scott, crossed the Tennessee River, from >near Erin in what is now Houston Co (that used to be Humphreys Co., and >then used to be Stewart Co.), and searched-out a new Homestead for his >family of 6, on Sugar Creek (near current-day Big Sandy) in Benton County >(which used to be Barbados, which used to be Virginia, which used to be >Carolina, which used to be N. Carolina, which used to be Indian Territory, >which used to be Humphreys County)......hoping to move his wife and family >into a new home by Christmas....... > >Just after marring his young Scottish bride of 19, Nancy Beaton, on >February 13, 1812 in Stewart Co. at Dover., the then 38 year old Malcolm >McKenzie, joined Gen. Andrew Jackson (when he came thru the area >recruiting) to fight the British in the War of 1812. Malcolm was >reportedly 'Killed-in-Action' during the War, and Nancy received a Widow's >Pension.....But then, Malcolm made a miraculous recovery from his 'mortal >wounds' and returned home to receive only a 'wounded pension' from the US >Government for his service...... > >Imagine if you would, what it might have been like in 1824, to enter into >the Wilderness of then Humphreys County (which just a few years prior had >been Indian Territory) and carve-out a new homestead.....alone.....for your >wife and 6 kids. > >Malcom's parents (Gilbert & Margrette McKenzie) came to Wilmington, N. >Carolina in December 1774 after a 2 month voyage from Greenock, Scotland >aboard the ship, Diana. Margrette was pregnant with Malcolm during the >journey....she gave birth to Malcolm during the trip or shortley after >arriving in Wilmington. They left Scotland, after being reduced to >'bleeding' their cattle and drinking their blood to survive.....This is >another tale in itself...... > >Gilbert fought in the Revolutionary War with the British.....as did the >majority of Scotts who settled in the present day Carolinas and Georgia. >They suffered greatly after the War and their children (in this case >Malcolm) left the Raleigh area by 1812. Malcolm took the usual boat route >from N. Carolina to Dover, Stewart Co. with a lot of the Scottish Clans... > >A little history......the names..Nancy and Ann... in Gaelic are the same >names.....contrary to popular belief....Nancy Beaton WAS NOT NAMED ...Nancy >ANN Beaton in 1793......that would be like calling President George >Bush....GEORGE GEORGE BUSH....her name was Nancy OR Ann...but NOT Nancy >Ann....it was Anglicized to Nancy Ann...... > >2nd....in Gaelic....surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite prominent >in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the >same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'.......The Beatons' or Bethunes' are an >extrememly respected religous name in old Scotland....as they were the >priests and ministers of the Church.....and were the founders of the Church >of Canada after most of the N. Carolina Scotts went to Canada after the >Revolutionary War....... > >I will tell you the story later as to how these Scotts fought with the >English (and this is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT historical note............it's >ENGLISH and not BRITISH......you offend Wales, Ireland and Scotland (these >folks HATED the ENGLISH in 1774) by including them in the Revolutionary War >as 'British' ........the War was fought with ENGLAND and NOT...Wales, >Ireland and Scotland.....it was.... TOTALLY ENGLISH.... > >More stories later..... > > >But...... > >I have, in hand, copies of the Royal Peerage Charts of the McKenzies back >to the 11th Century.....I received them from the current Laird of the >MacKenzies as a gift thru the Clan McKenzie of Canada....for personal >research connecting the Clans settlements in the Americas after the Battle >of Collouden Moor in April of 1745........ > >THese are very rare documents, as they are NOT available to the General >Public..... > >Three things..... > >1. These gen-charts, from the 1000's to the late 1800's, provide a >genealogical history to a number of you in Northern Benton Country >(particularly around Big Sandy) and the surrounding counties. If you have >an interest in them...I will provide you a copy (at whatever it cost me to >reproduce them)......let me know.... > >2. I have established the link between Gilbert (b. 1740), his son Malcolm >(b. 1774) of Benton Co. and the Ancient MacKenzie Clan >gen-charts...........I leave 'the link' for you to discover on your own >however......It is important to me..that you do this yourselves......if you >find the right connections....I will provide you with missing documents...... > >3. However, those of you who are descendant of Malcolms' son, Gilbert, >thru his son Jethro, and subsequently Fred McKenzie (who married Grace >Thelma Wimberley in 1921) may not find these 'Charts" of interest....you >may want to look to the Robbins' family genealogy instead.......There's an >old genealogical ryhme, which has stood the test of time, (making a new >ryhme here <vbg>)...that goes......'Mamas' Baby...Daddy's Maybe'....You >research it.... and figure it out..... > >Dave > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ???

Now Dave, if you have not had to go change your drawers from laughing too hard, we needa get back to biz here. I got a bushel load of ancestors hiding under rocks. (Probably scared of me). Time to tell these folks about DC Crossing and why it is necessary. Time to tell them bout county boundary lines changing without folks moving which makes census records a MESS if you don't know bout the danged lines. Time to tell em bout folks migrating a mile down the road and winding up in another courthouse. Time to tell them why you founded this list in the first place so we did not all go nuts looking under rocks. Time for them to tell US what counties they lost WHO in so we can start looking again. You got that grin off your face yet??? jan

ROTFLOL!!!!! you going to bust your gut giggling, Dave. But it is good to hear you giggling agaiin. At 10:51 PM 1/17/02 -0700, you wrote: ><LOL...rolling on floor......the irony is just to much for me today>..... > >Want to talk about who can 'irritate' the most people.....????? > >Belly-up to the Bar, Girl......It's an exclusive club you just >joined....but a very necessary one.... > ><still gigling> Dave >================================================ > >At 12:10 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > ><BG> Mop up the sneezles and be nice, Dave. I irritated someone by > >posting a column written a year ago, to another list entirely, sent to > >thousands out there and one person I never heard tell of took me > >personal. Man I hope the other thousands don't or my email box is gonna be > >a MESS! LOL! > > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My Family Tree has Root Rot !!

<BG> Mop up the sneezles and be nice, Dave. I irritated someone by posting a column written a year ago, to another list entirely, sent to thousands out there and one person I never heard tell of took me personal. Man I hope the other thousands don't or my email box is gonna be a MESS! LOL!

Nah you didn't miss it. I didn't post it to DC. I was trying to get something out in a hurry so used one of my real old ones and only posted it to its own list this week. I got called to Tenn this week cause an aunt was in the hospital, and it has been a real rough week anyhow, and I didn't have time to write one. So I did what I do a lot, pulled an old one out. Sometimes I worry if I post an old one where I KNOW folks already saw it, they get bored, so I didn't post it here or Stewart. Also to be honest, I was in a hurry and didn't take time to post anywhere else.

Jan: I'm confused too. I try to keep up with the e-mails, but must have missed something. Speaking of missing something. I must have missed the "Sunday Afternoon Rocking" completely. I knew I didn't read it and I went through my "old mail" and it's not in it either. Did you send one out this past weekend? I really enjoy reading them and usually will read them out loud for my mother. She can relate to most of the memories of her life she experienced in your stories. Hope what ever this is brewing will be all right. I love this list and everyone on it. Paulette

Cher......Welcome home, we've missed you.............

Hey ole pal! Good to see ya. Maybe you can inform me off list just what the heck I missed on here and got jumped for???? At 11:53 PM 1/20/02 -0500, you wrote: >Jan, > >Here's one!! > >Ronda >Tinitiger6@aol.com > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My family Coat of Arms ties at the back ...... >is that normal ???

<BG> If I had not run into so many strange things lately, I would swear it was a conspiracy. The person accusing SAR (a COLUMN) of "being mean" to her responded. <BG> Now I fully admit I have not been keeping up with DC lately and only today decided to try to get more active cause I told Dave I would. But whatever, I guess my SAR message today on "feuders" musta hit a nerve...wonder how many other thousands I made mad out there? It WAS NOT posted on DC by the way cause you saw it a year ago, I use old ones when I am lazy or tired. I didn't take the time to post it at all except to its own list...I have been nursing a sick aunt this week and didn't feel like writing new one...at any rate...it musta hit a nerve. <BBBG> WHOA...ya sure don't wanna write a column and send it out to a few thousand or brush your teeth on Saturday night, do ya???? ....ROTFLOL!!! BRING ON some more full moons, bring em on! I can handle it, especially when they border on the rediculous. Dave, you got some strange sense of humor. I think I do too.

Rhonda, It is so good to 'see you'.. I will get back in the traces for a while and see if I can help some of these good folks... then in March or April I will be heading out again..<g> Cher ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tinitiger6@aol.com> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 11:52 PM Subject: Re: Home again! HOme again! WELCOME HOME CHER!!!!!!!! Ronda Tinitiger6@aol.com ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== My family Coat of Arms ties at the back ...... is that normal ???

Jan, Here's one!! Ronda Tinitiger6@aol.com

WELCOME HOME CHER!!!!!!!! Ronda Tinitiger6@aol.com

I DO NOT KNOW what this Yates message is about. I am making that clear. Via SAR???? S.A.R. is a COLUMN...non responding, a dang column the world reads, a memory thing...what that got to do with anyone???? And WHO is this person? DID she post something not good? I HAVE NOT A CLUE!!! I haven't been paying attention, in fact just got in town last night...but HOW DID I GET IN THE MIDDLE??? If anyone knows, please let me know, cause I don't have the foggiest. jan

HUH???? Sunday Afternoon Rocking has not said one thing about you???? HUH??? What in the heck is this all about please???? I NEVER SAID ONE THING TO YOU...what??? WHAT IS THIS???? jan who is VERY VERY confused At 10:13 PM 1/20/02 -0600, you wrote: >It has been brought to my attention, via Sunday Afternoon >Rocking, that perhaps my posts here are not always received >in the spirit sent. Because of this I have written to >Dave Snow and asked him to remove me from the mailing list. >I am sorry that some of you did not understand my words. > >I would like to thank those of you who have helped me in >my genealogical research....your help was truly appreciated. >I will miss seeing the exchanges of this mailing list for >many have brought smiles to my face...others..tears... > >With my sincerist apologies to any I have offended, it is >now time for me to go... > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: >They Hide & I Seek !! > > >

It has been brought to my attention, via Sunday Afternoon Rocking, that perhaps my posts here are not always received in the spirit sent. Because of this I have written to Dave Snow and asked him to remove me from the mailing list. I am sorry that some of you did not understand my words. I would like to thank those of you who have helped me in my genealogical research....your help was truly appreciated. I will miss seeing the exchanges of this mailing list for many have brought smiles to my face...others..tears... With my sincerist apologies to any I have offended, it is now time for me to go... _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Rene' What a story of courage..and love This is great...and you all paid the price for that beautiful baby... Kinda makes ya feel like alls well that ends well.... Thank you.... not being a mother myself I 'mother' you all and mother vicariously... as an Auntie~ Cher ----- Original Message ----- From: Rene Seigh <naysay@hiwaay.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 8:41 PM Subject: RE: Dad...Am I a good Mom ??? This is long, but I want to share the story of what we have been through this year, and how wonderfully and blessed we all feel now. In August of 2000, two days before her 19th birthday, I found out my daughter was pregnant. I was devastated. We convinced her to go to her community college for one more semester, then move back home in December, when her semester was over. It was hard, being pregnant and going to school, but she made it through. We rearranged our house to welcome her back. I bought maternity clothes and baby things. She was very very careful to take care of herself throughout her pregnancy. On April 17, I was with her all night and the next day at noon my husband and I welcomed our new granddaughter into the world. I was terrified about my daughter being a mother and trying to build a life for herself and the baby. Later that night, the doctor discovered that the baby had a heart defect and she was medflighted to a medical facility 100 miles from our home. Five days later she had open heart surgery, and my daughter and I stayed at Ronald McDonald house for 10 days while the baby recovered. My daughter pumped her breasts 3 times a day so that she could nurse the baby. She stayed with her most of the day and a lot of the night. She held the baby while the doctor took the chest tubes out of the baby's chest when I had to leave the room. To make a too-long story shorter, the baby is now healthy and wonderful and I couldn't imagine my life without her! My daughter is a marvelous mother, and she never has to ask because her dad and I tell her often how incredible a mother she is. I, on the other hand, cannot remember ever asking my father if I was a good mother, though I love my father dearly and we have a decent relationship. I've definitely had many days when I wondered if I was doing the right things with my children. Parenting is not easy. When we are young, we look up to our parents as being perfect and having all the answers. But when we have children ourselves, it seems like a grand experiment. "Well, try this and if it works, great, if it doesn't, try something else." We can only do the best we can. That is what I tell my daughter. I support her in all her endeavors (she just started back to school). I am just joyous to have this time with my precious grandchild, knowing that one day they will move out and I won't get to have such an active part in their lives. My 2 cents... Rene' ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on...