My GGG Grandfather, Wiley/Willie Peacock and family appears in the 1840 Henry County census (p482), and his oldest son, my great great grandfather, Dr. Rufus Wilie Peacock, was in the 1850 Henry Cnty. census (residing at the Manley residence), while his mother and siblings are found in the 1850 Carroll Cnty Census. Wiley and Lefa Peacock and family left Wayne cnty NC and settled in this area of TN abt. 1832-1836, first in Henry. I'd like to find out specifically where they were located in Henry Co. in 1840. Also, any suggestions on how to find out just where and when Wiley/Willie died/buried (prob. around 1845). Only thing I have on Wiley is an obit of Rufus that says his father was a "wealthy planter." Also I'm told there is a Willie Peacock on tax list for 1836 3 rd. dist. 1poll. Does anyone have access to these tax lists to see if he's on any others bet 1832-1845. The Wiley/Lefa Peacock children, besides Rufus, according to the Carroll Cnty 1850 census were Nancy (m.Kirkland), Barney W., Mary Ann (m. John Bean Vickery), Peneicy (m. Steven M. Thompson), Elizabeth M., Amanda C., and Lefa L. Also, Rufus married Mary Jane Woodson in Gibson Cnty in 1852, then Martha Davie in Haywood Cnty in 1860, then Ann Martha (Norfleet) McCullogh in Clarksville in 1870. His daughter Mignonette "Nettie" by 2nd wife Martha, was my g grandmother. She married Harry E. Horton, who might have been from this area of TN. Any help would be appreciated. - Ray Ray Horton sunray@erie.net

I've been a member of this list for a couple of years, but hadn't visited the Benton County web site for awhile. I know y'all do a lot of work on that, too. I was soooo excited recently to find a bit about my grandfather and grandmother's (Joe and Ethel Goodman) old homeplace up by Pilot's Knob. I love the fact that stories have been collected, not just names, dates, and facts. I haven't found that on other web sites. Thanks to you all for the work that you do. Let me see how the next month pans out and maybe I could transcribe just a little. Rene' -----Original Message----- From: j [mailto:unicorn@sun-spot.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:58 PM To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Lighting fires It is good to see this list moving again...its purpose is absolutely one that has to be....and that vision was seen a long long time ago by Dan and Dave, long time before most of us ever showed up on the web. It has to do with "crossings" all right...originally the crossing paths of ancestors, and how we could lose them in one place and have them turn up in another...the reason why all the county lists need to work with this one. But it grew into something else...crossing...of all of us, our paths crossing and re-crossing, and sometimes crossing bridges. We are about to cross a bridge folks, a BIG bridge...a fire has been lighted. The dream of long ago has had an ember catch a breath of new air....and when it did, it lit up a bridge we hadn't been looking for. We are about to embark on a dream here....folks? Who wants to be part of the dream? Hmmm? Who wants to be sure that anyone, ANYone needing records in this area...finds them, immediately, where ever they are in the world? Well do you want to just use them and be the amen corner? Or do you want to help provide them? Waiting here...cause this is going to take a lot of folks. We want to transcribe, anything, everything, all that will make it all available...who is willing to bite the bait and start making this happen? jan ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... Now What ????

I have another relative named William Pardon b. 5/5/1853, wife Sarah Howard Brown b. Jan 14, 1861. They are my great grand parents. They lived around the Ruskin cave area. I was told a story about Sarah picking blackberriies close by the cave. She said she could pick 10 gal. a day. They put up what they needed and sold the rest. This was around late 1800's or very early 1900's. The road they lived on was called Pardon Road. Up until 45 or 50 years ago we took several family trips to Ruskin Cave. I remember walking in a creek that was very rocky. I thought it was the most beautiful place in the world. I remember my daddy showing up where his mother was born. Her name was Mary Elizabeth Pardon b. 10/8/1890. They moved to West Tennessee abt. 1905. Does anyone know of this family. I don't know who Williams parents were. It has been passed down that Sarah's parents were the Howards from England. Another story passed down was that Williams mother was a fat Irish lady with a very large bosum. This is the only thing my grandmother remembered about her grandmother Pardon. The spelling of the Pardon name has many variations. I have found them under Pardon, Pardun, Parton, Partin. Anyway this is another one of my deadends. If anyone can help with it , sure would appreciate it. BJ

It is good to see this list moving again...its purpose is absolutely one that has to be....and that vision was seen a long long time ago by Dan and Dave, long time before most of us ever showed up on the web. It has to do with "crossings" all right...originally the crossing paths of ancestors, and how we could lose them in one place and have them turn up in another...the reason why all the county lists need to work with this one. But it grew into something else...crossing...of all of us, our paths crossing and re-crossing, and sometimes crossing bridges. We are about to cross a bridge folks, a BIG bridge...a fire has been lighted. The dream of long ago has had an ember catch a breath of new air....and when it did, it lit up a bridge we hadn't been looking for. We are about to embark on a dream here....folks? Who wants to be part of the dream? Hmmm? Who wants to be sure that anyone, ANYone needing records in this area...finds them, immediately, where ever they are in the world? Well do you want to just use them and be the amen corner? Or do you want to help provide them? Waiting here...cause this is going to take a lot of folks. We want to transcribe, anything, everything, all that will make it all available...who is willing to bite the bait and start making this happen? jan

There seems to be a lot more people talking now, so I was hoping someone would know the parents of Tennessee Porter Outlaw born 17 Nov 1823 in Stewart Co. she married James Franklin Summers 3, July 1847. They lived in the Houston County area around White Oak Creek. They are my gg grandparents. Any lead at all would be greatly appreciated. Thanks bjlondon

HUH? Didn't know they didn't. Thought they did. DUH...dunno. jan At 01:51 PM 1/22/02 -0700, you wrote: >OK Jan........ > >Can you tell me why Stewart County has NO records archives listed by the >Tennessee Archives as a repository for your county records...??????? ><maybe be because after the Federal Troops burned them in 1862....nobody >over there.....thought is was important enough to save any further >records.......(LOL).....or they couldn't write and didn't care >(ROTFLOL)....... > >Take a look for Stewart Co.: > >http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/techsvs/ArchDirectory.pdf > ><You'll need Adobe Acrobat to read the file...> > >Dave > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My Family Tree has Root Rot !!

I don't have any Kennedys I don' think unless they are shirt-tail. None direct...but some of my folks did marry into the Dortch line, yup. jan At 02:02 AM 1/19/02 -0700, you wrote: >Hey Jan, > >One of your Kennedy's married one of them Dortch's over in Stewart >County....yeah????? > >Dave > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my grandparents didn't have any kids ???

(Welcome to your extended family Ashley......Dad) Folks, Anyone connect to this line of McKenzie-Brewer..????? http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndigs/margaret.htm Margaret was Nicholis's 1st wife.........and I'm going to be a little 'brutal' here.....so don't flame me...(Nicholis went on to go thru 2 more wives.....before .....he had answer for his sins ...) Margaret was named after her grand-mother who immigrated to Wilmington, N.Carolina in 1774 from Scotland, where she had been reduced to 'bleeding' her and Gilberts' cattle and drinking their blood in order not to starve to death..... Margaret married Nicholis Brewer, Jr. in late April of 1838 on Sugar Creek <near Big Sandy> in the new Benton County......she gave him 9 known children in the FIRST 14 years, that they were married... before she died in 1859.....possibly at child-birth.......and for you women out there...you know that.... that is a pretty good feat....for any women.... Did she love him that much...?? Did she think it was her 'duty' ???...Was she a 'nut'..???........I don't the answer.....something just 'rubs me' the wrong way here about this relationship.....(you need to know that Nancy, Margaret's next younger sister, married Nicholis's younger brother, Daniel.....they had 5 kids in 10 years of marriage before Daniel died prematurely at age 29 in 1843)....... Here's the 'rub'........and my angst..... When Margaret died in 1859 at age 38......Nicholis buried her alone....... in the 'No Name Cemetery" in N. Benton County where the only other interments are a Slave and a Baby........Why ?????? Why there..??? The McKenzie family had large land holdings along the Pointe Road with a family cemetery at Willow Point along New Hope Road where all the other early McKenzies, some of the Beatons, ....whatever...... have been buried....... Why 'No Name"...??? Why alone...??? Your thoughts........ Dave

Thanks Dallas, Guess it was Davy Pierce........ There's a connection between John & Rachels' ..Mary Caroline...and Stephen & Lavinias'...Martha Angeline... thru the Coopers, McDaniels & McKenzies..... Just can't put my finger on it right now.....and haven't found it in my notes.....Martha Angeline McDaniel (b. 1859) married to John C. Gray..........it's in there.......I've got another hard-drive to search....but not right now... Thanks again, Dave ----------------------------------------- At 01:07 PM 1/22/02 -0800, Dallas Greer wrote: >Jean and Dave. > >I have a Martha Pierce b. Feb 23,1822 the eldest daughter of John Pierce >b.1799, d. 1862 and Rachel Ross they had 10 children: >Martha, Wm Riley, Louisa, Keziah, Mary Caroline, John Wm, Rachel, Harvey R., >Evaline, Edward A., the youngest. I also have some of their spouses, don't have a >spouse for Martha. >Dave this is what we discussed, most of it is your information. > >DAL> > > >David L Snow wrote: > >> Jean, >> >> Here's the problem with the Pierces and particularly Martha Angeline........ >> >> There are 2 main Pierce lines the area....between Henry and Benton >> Counties..just like there are 3 main Dortch lines that run in the area and >> up into Kentucky.......the Pierce lines are obviously related, but back in >> N.Carolina and Kentucky.... >> >> Haven't been able to determine whether the lines are brothers or >> cousins.....one is the John Pierce-Rachael Ross line and the other is your >> Stephen Pierce-Lavinia Geers line..........there also were a couple other >> lines that moved in and out of the area. >> >> Dallas....can you help her here ???? You and I discussed this Pierce line >> before and I can't find my records....Martha Angeline is part of Kiziahs' >> line down the road.....and I can't find the connection right now.....but >> I've stumbled with Martha a number of times.......she's involved with the >> Coopers and McDaniels....just don't remember where or when (old age I >> guess).... >> >> Any of you 'old time' Pierce researchers able to help......???? >> >> Dave >> ------------------------------------------------- >> At 10:05 PM 1/21/02 -0500, GJCloke1@cs.com wrote: >> >Dave, >> > >> >Thanks anyway on the BETHANY--BEATON/BETHUNE thing. Gotta check any >> >possibility. >> > >> >I don't have a whole lot on Martha Angelina/Angeline PIERCE, who was my >> >gr-gr-grandmother. But here is what I have. According to my own estimate >> >from Census records, etc., she was born ABT 1839 in Henry Co., TN. Her >> >father was Augustus PIERCE son of Stephen PIERCE & Lavinia GEERS, but I have >> >not been able to find anything on her mother. I have seven siblings for >> >Martha...... Elizabeth Caroline, Lavinia Catherine, William B., Pinckney >> >Stephen, George W., Mary Jane, & Sarah R. Augustus is buried in Barbee >> >Cemetery in Henry Co., TN. >> > >> >She married Charles Homer BETHANY July 8, 1861 in Henry Co., TN, and moved >> to >> >Benton Co. where he lived. C.H. already had seven children of his own and a >> >step-son. This was his third marriage. Martha & C.H. had at least 12 >> >children, the second being my gr-grandmother, Martha Jane. >> > >> >Sometime toward the end of the Civil war they moved to Texas Co., MO and >> >remained there until about 1873 when they moved to Newton Co., AR. After >> >C.H. died in Dec. 1900, she kept the property for a while, but then began >> >moving around living with her children for several months to a year or so at >> >a time. She died in August 1915 near Earlsboro, Pottawatomie Co., OK while >> >living with one of her daughters, and is buried in an unmarked grave in the >> >Earlsboro Cemetery. My grandmother showed me where the grave was years ago, >> >so at least we know where it is. I hope to get a stone on it this year. >> > >> >There are a couple of discrepancies in the information I have accumulated >> >that disagree with the above info. One is that some other BETHANY >> >researchers have her middle name as Lucretia instead of Angelina. The >> second >> >is a family story that Martha Angeline PIERCE was abandoned as an infant on >> >the doorstep of the home of a minister, Augustus PIERCE. Martha was at >> >least part Indian and may have been full-blood. The PIERCE family took her >> >in and raised her as one of their own. It has been speculated that she was >> >abandoned during the removal of the Cherokee's to Indian Territory since two >> >of the trails used went through the area of Henry Co., TN where the PIERCE >> >family lived. One theory is that her mother had died and she was left >> there >> >so she would be taken care of. >> > >> >This is about all I have on her, other than a couple of pictures other >> >researchers have sent me. I can send those directly to you, if you like. >> > >> >Do you have some additional info on Martha or C.H.? >> > >> >Thanks and have a good day, >> >Jean >> > >> > >> >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? >> > >> >> ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" >> as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ???? > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY goes on... and on... and on... >

OK Jan........ Can you tell me why Stewart County has NO records archives listed by the Tennessee Archives as a repository for your county records...??????? <maybe be because after the Federal Troops burned them in 1862....nobody over there.....thought is was important enough to save any further records.......(LOL).....or they couldn't write and didn't care (ROTFLOL)....... Take a look for Stewart Co.: http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/techsvs/ArchDirectory.pdf <You'll need Adobe Acrobat to read the file...> Dave

Folks, May also find the following of interest..... http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/court.htm Though the Archives states which Court records hold what type of cases when.......don't believe them....it's a general rule only...for example.....in Benton County, after 1834, Bastardy cases were supposed to be heard in the Circuit Court, but you will that they were also heard in the County Court......as a note....check all sources.... Dave

Now that we have the Pierce line going again can anyone tell me who May Neil Pierce who married Wm Forrest Sloan 6-17-1837 is....and what line of Pierce..... DAL>

Folks, May find the following interesting....... http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/lost.htm Find it interesting that the Archives lists Stewart County records as being burned in 1862 by Federal Troops......everyone else burned their own Courthouse down....... Dave

Jean and Dave. I have a Martha Pierce b. Feb 23,1822 the eldest daughter of John Pierce b.1799, d. 1862 and Rachel Ross they had 10 children: Martha, Wm Riley, Louisa, Keziah, Mary Caroline, John Wm, Rachel, Harvey R., Evaline, Edward A., the youngest. I also have some of their spouses, don't have a spouse for Martha. Dave this is what we discussed, most of it is your information. DAL> David L Snow wrote: > Jean, > > Here's the problem with the Pierces and particularly Martha Angeline........ > > There are 2 main Pierce lines the area....between Henry and Benton > Counties..just like there are 3 main Dortch lines that run in the area and > up into Kentucky.......the Pierce lines are obviously related, but back in > N.Carolina and Kentucky.... > > Haven't been able to determine whether the lines are brothers or > cousins.....one is the John Pierce-Rachael Ross line and the other is your > Stephen Pierce-Lavinia Geers line..........there also were a couple other > lines that moved in and out of the area. > > Dallas....can you help her here ???? You and I discussed this Pierce line > before and I can't find my records....Martha Angeline is part of Kiziahs' > line down the road.....and I can't find the connection right now.....but > I've stumbled with Martha a number of times.......she's involved with the > Coopers and McDaniels....just don't remember where or when (old age I > guess).... > > Any of you 'old time' Pierce researchers able to help......???? > > Dave > ------------------------------------------------- > At 10:05 PM 1/21/02 -0500, GJCloke1@cs.com wrote: > >Dave, > > > >Thanks anyway on the BETHANY--BEATON/BETHUNE thing. Gotta check any > >possibility. > > > >I don't have a whole lot on Martha Angelina/Angeline PIERCE, who was my > >gr-gr-grandmother. But here is what I have. According to my own estimate > >from Census records, etc., she was born ABT 1839 in Henry Co., TN. Her > >father was Augustus PIERCE son of Stephen PIERCE & Lavinia GEERS, but I have > >not been able to find anything on her mother. I have seven siblings for > >Martha...... Elizabeth Caroline, Lavinia Catherine, William B., Pinckney > >Stephen, George W., Mary Jane, & Sarah R. Augustus is buried in Barbee > >Cemetery in Henry Co., TN. > > > >She married Charles Homer BETHANY July 8, 1861 in Henry Co., TN, and moved > to > >Benton Co. where he lived. C.H. already had seven children of his own and a > >step-son. This was his third marriage. Martha & C.H. had at least 12 > >children, the second being my gr-grandmother, Martha Jane. > > > >Sometime toward the end of the Civil war they moved to Texas Co., MO and > >remained there until about 1873 when they moved to Newton Co., AR. After > >C.H. died in Dec. 1900, she kept the property for a while, but then began > >moving around living with her children for several months to a year or so at > >a time. She died in August 1915 near Earlsboro, Pottawatomie Co., OK while > >living with one of her daughters, and is buried in an unmarked grave in the > >Earlsboro Cemetery. My grandmother showed me where the grave was years ago, > >so at least we know where it is. I hope to get a stone on it this year. > > > >There are a couple of discrepancies in the information I have accumulated > >that disagree with the above info. One is that some other BETHANY > >researchers have her middle name as Lucretia instead of Angelina. The > second > >is a family story that Martha Angeline PIERCE was abandoned as an infant on > >the doorstep of the home of a minister, Augustus PIERCE. Martha was at > >least part Indian and may have been full-blood. The PIERCE family took her > >in and raised her as one of their own. It has been speculated that she was > >abandoned during the removal of the Cherokee's to Indian Territory since two > >of the trails used went through the area of Henry Co., TN where the PIERCE > >family lived. One theory is that her mother had died and she was left > there > >so she would be taken care of. > > > >This is about all I have on her, other than a couple of pictures other > >researchers have sent me. I can send those directly to you, if you like. > > > >Do you have some additional info on Martha or C.H.? > > > >Thanks and have a good day, > >Jean > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" > as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ????

Hello, Are their any McMackens/MacMackins/Makens out there? My ggggrandfather was Harvey Mackin. He was in the 1850 and 1860 Decatur County census. Any Help would be appreciated. Descendants of Harvey Jim Macken 1 Harvey Jim Macken 1839 - b: Bet. 1839 - 1844 . +Mary Jane Becky Hickerson 1847 - 1873 b: 1847 in Perry County, Tennessee d: Bef. October 1873 in Decatur County, Tennessee ...... 2 Ida Bell Macken 1868 - 1934 b: November 18, 1868 d: February 19, 1934 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee .......... +James Henry Folkner Faulkner 1864 - 1925 b: July 15, 1864 in Cerro Gordo, Hardin County, Tennessee d: April 24, 1925 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee .............. 3 Flora Ella Faulkner 1898 - 1936 b: January 09, 1898 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee d: June 02, 1936 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee .................. +James Henry Barnes 1892 - 1936 b: April 13, 1892 in Holladay, Benton County, Tennessee d: May 08, 1936 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee .............. 3 Cora M. Faulkner 1887 - 1894 b: November 01, 1887 in Decatur County, Tennessee d: October 18, 1894 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee .............. 3 Jasper (Jack) Marion Faulkner 1889 - 1963 b: December 10, 1889 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee d: June 26, 1963 in Birdsong Road, Benton County, Tennessee .................. +Emma Elizabeth Little 1888 - 1957 b: January 17, 1888 in Hardin County, Tennessee d: November 15, 1957 in Birdsong Road, Benton County, Tennessee .............. 3 Nora Lettie Faulkner 1892 - 1993 b: July 05, 1892 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee d: July 08, 1993 in Mid-South Christian Nursing Home, Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee .................. +John Emms Pirtle 1886 - 1976 b: April 25, 1886 in Southeast Township, Orange, Indiana d: September 05, 1976 in St. Joseph Hospital Midtown, Shelby County, Tennessee .............. 3 Dora Mae Faulkner 1895 - 1983 b: March 25, 1895 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee d: June 13, 1983 in Big Sandy, Benton County, Tennessee .................. +William Columbus (Hoss) Little 1891 - 1973 b: August 17, 1891 in Hardin County, Tennessee d: August 16, 1973 in St Joseph, Michigan .............. 3 Lora Jimmie Faulkner 1904 - 1920 b: August 01, 1904 in Gibson County/ Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee d: September 28, 1920 in Hog Creek, Decatur County, Tennessee .................. +Benny Washington Baker 1897 - 1971 b: October 20, 1897 in Decatur, County Tennessee d: December 27, 1971 in Madison County Hospital, Jackson, Madison County, Tennessee *2nd Wife of Harvey Jim Macken: . +Jennie Owens ??? Thanks, Marie Jean Fairchild wrote: > This is very interesting. Do you all have anything on the Climer or Mckinnis clans. > > Thank you > > SammieJean Gregory-Fairchild > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: j > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:31 AM > To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Some genealogy..... > > Thanks pal...didn't know those McElroys were railroaders...hmmmm. I did > know they got themselves into a mite of trouble in the Revolution tho. > <BG> Came running this direction to keep their skins. LOL! > > jan > > At 06:00 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > >Jan, > > > >Try the eastern isle of the UK....Irish....they came later to build the > >Railroads out of New England in the 1850's... > > > >Another story......with the Butlers who built Ira's RR's.....HE can HELP > >you with the McElroy's.....ask him...he's got some good history here..... > > > >Also, check the 'Special' 1850 RR Census......Look to the Benton Co. > >Website for an example....... > > > >Dave > > > >At 07:05 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > > >I only got one of those "Mc's" in my heritage, Dave. <BG> McElroy. Now > > >canya do anything with that one?? And be nice. > > > > > >jan > > > > > >At 05:29 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > > >>YES YOU DO.......but....there's a secret you'll don't know...about > > >>'Septs'.....sub-groups <got'cha> ....ignorance is sometimes > > >>..Bliss..sometmes it cuts your heart out.........'McRea' for example, is a > > >>Sept...of Clan MacKenzie...so are the McLoeds (this is McClouds).........do > > >>your homework......not many in the local area have escaped the the Scottish > > >>'curse'... > > >> > > >>Dave > > >> > > >>At 04:57 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > > >> >Wow, Dave! That is interesting! Do you have to be a McKenzie to be in > > >> >those charts? All those my folks' stomping grounds, but I don't think I > > >> >have a drop of McKenzie blood... > > >> > > > >> >At 03:18 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > > >> >>In the Fall of 1824, a 49 year old Scott, crossed the Tennessee River, > >from > > >> >>near Erin in what is now Houston Co (that used to be Humphreys Co., and > > >> >>then used to be Stewart Co.), and searched-out a new Homestead for his > > >> >>family of 6, on Sugar Creek (near current-day Big Sandy) in Benton > > County > > >> >>(which used to be Barbados, which used to be Virginia, which used to be > > >> >>Carolina, which used to be N. Carolina, which used to be Indian > >Territory, > > >> >>which used to be Humphreys County)......hoping to move his wife and > >family > > >> >>into a new home by Christmas....... > > >> >> > > >> >>Just after marring his young Scottish bride of 19, Nancy Beaton, on > > >> >>February 13, 1812 in Stewart Co. at Dover., the then 38 year old Malcolm > > >> >>McKenzie, joined Gen. Andrew Jackson (when he came thru the area > > >> >>recruiting) to fight the British in the War of 1812. Malcolm was > > >> >>reportedly 'Killed-in-Action' during the War, and Nancy received a > >Widow's > > >> >>Pension.....But then, Malcolm made a miraculous recovery from his > > 'mortal > > >> >>wounds' and returned home to receive only a 'wounded pension' from > > the US > > >> >>Government for his service...... > > >> >> > > >> >>Imagine if you would, what it might have been like in 1824, to enter > > into > > >> >>the Wilderness of then Humphreys County (which just a few years > > prior had > > >> >>been Indian Territory) and carve-out a new homestead.....alone.....for > >your > > >> >>wife and 6 kids. > > >> >> > > >> >>Malcom's parents (Gilbert & Margrette McKenzie) came to Wilmington, N. > > >> >>Carolina in December 1774 after a 2 month voyage from Greenock, Scotland > > >> >>aboard the ship, Diana. Margrette was pregnant with Malcolm during the > > >> >>journey....she gave birth to Malcolm during the trip or shortley after > > >> >>arriving in Wilmington. They left Scotland, after being reduced to > > >> >>'bleeding' their cattle and drinking their blood to survive.....This is > > >> >>another tale in itself...... > > >> >> > > >> >>Gilbert fought in the Revolutionary War with the British.....as did the > > >> >>majority of Scotts who settled in the present day Carolinas and Georgia. > > >> >>They suffered greatly after the War and their children (in this case > > >> >>Malcolm) left the Raleigh area by 1812. Malcolm took the usual boat > >route > > >> >>from N. Carolina to Dover, Stewart Co. with a lot of the Scottish > >Clans... > > > > >> >> > > >> >>A little history......the names..Nancy and Ann... in Gaelic are the same > > >> >>names.....contrary to popular belief....Nancy Beaton WAS NOT NAMED > >...Nancy > > >> >>ANN Beaton in 1793......that would be like calling President George > > >> >>Bush....GEORGE GEORGE BUSH....her name was Nancy OR Ann...but NOT Nancy > > >> >>Ann....it was Anglicized to Nancy Ann...... > > >> >> > > >> >>2nd....in Gaelic....surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite > >prominent > > >> >>in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the > > >> >>same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'.......The Beatons' or Bethunes' are an > > >> >>extrememly respected religous name in old Scotland....as they were the > > >> >>priests and ministers of the Church.....and were the founders of the > >Church > > >> > > >> >>of Canada after most of the N. Carolina Scotts went to Canada after the > > >> >>Revolutionary War....... > > >> >> > > >> >>I will tell you the story later as to how these Scotts fought with the > > >> >>English (and this is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT historical > >note............it's > > >> >>ENGLISH and not BRITISH......you offend Wales, Ireland and Scotland > >(these > > >> >>folks HATED the ENGLISH in 1774) by including them in the > >Revolutionary War > > >> >>as 'British' ........the War was fought with ENGLAND and NOT...Wales, > > >> >>Ireland and Scotland.....it was.... TOTALLY ENGLISH.... > > >> >> > > >> >>More stories later..... > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>But...... > > >> >> > > >> >>I have, in hand, copies of the Royal Peerage Charts of the McKenzies > > back > > >> >>to the 11th Century.....I received them from the current Laird of the > > >> >>MacKenzies as a gift thru the Clan McKenzie of Canada....for personal > > >> >>research connecting the Clans settlements in the Americas after the > >Battle > > >> >>of Collouden Moor in April of 1745........ > > >> >> > > >> >>THese are very rare documents, as they are NOT available to the General > > >> >>Public..... > > >> >> > > >> >>Three things..... > > >> >> > > >> >>1. These gen-charts, from the 1000's to the late 1800's, provide a > > >> >>genealogical history to a number of you in Northern Benton Country > > >> >>(particularly around Big Sandy) and the surrounding counties. If you > >have > > >> >>an interest in them...I will provide you a copy (at whatever it cost > >me to > > >> >>reproduce them)......let me know.... > > >> >> > > >> >>2. I have established the link between Gilbert (b. 1740), his son > >Malcolm > > >> >>(b. 1774) of Benton Co. and the Ancient MacKenzie Clan > > >> >>gen-charts...........I leave 'the link' for you to discover on your own > > >> >>however......It is important to me..that you do this > >yourselves......if you > > >> >>find the right connections....I will provide you with missing > > >>documents...... > > >> >> > > >> >>3. However, those of you who are descendant of Malcolms' son, Gilbert, > > >> >>thru his son Jethro, and subsequently Fred McKenzie (who married Grace > > >> >>Thelma Wimberley in 1921) may not find these 'Charts" of interest....you > > >> >>may want to look to the Robbins' family genealogy > >instead.......There's an > > >> >>old genealogical ryhme, which has stood the test of time, (making a new > > >> >>ryhme here <vbg>)...that goes......'Mamas' Baby...Daddy's Maybe'....You > > >> >>research it.... and figure it out..... > > > > >> >> > > >> >>Dave > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > > >> >>What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > > >> >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! 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This is very interesting. Do you all have anything on the Climer or Mckinnis clans. Thank you SammieJean Gregory-Fairchild ----- Original Message ----- From: j Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:31 AM To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Some genealogy..... Thanks pal...didn't know those McElroys were railroaders...hmmmm. I did know they got themselves into a mite of trouble in the Revolution tho. <BG> Came running this direction to keep their skins. LOL! jan At 06:00 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: >Jan, > >Try the eastern isle of the UK....Irish....they came later to build the >Railroads out of New England in the 1850's... > >Another story......with the Butlers who built Ira's RR's.....HE can HELP >you with the McElroy's.....ask him...he's got some good history here..... > >Also, check the 'Special' 1850 RR Census......Look to the Benton Co. >Website for an example....... > >Dave > >At 07:05 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > >I only got one of those "Mc's" in my heritage, Dave. <BG> McElroy. Now > >canya do anything with that one?? And be nice. > > > >jan > > > >At 05:29 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > >>YES YOU DO.......but....there's a secret you'll don't know...about > >>'Septs'.....sub-groups <got'cha> ....ignorance is sometimes > >>..Bliss..sometmes it cuts your heart out.........'McRea' for example, is a > >>Sept...of Clan MacKenzie...so are the McLoeds (this is McClouds).........do > >>your homework......not many in the local area have escaped the the Scottish > >>'curse'... > >> > >>Dave > >> > >>At 04:57 PM 1/21/02 -0500, j wrote: > >> >Wow, Dave! That is interesting! Do you have to be a McKenzie to be in > >> >those charts? All those my folks' stomping grounds, but I don't think I > >> >have a drop of McKenzie blood... > >> > > >> >At 03:18 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: > >> >>In the Fall of 1824, a 49 year old Scott, crossed the Tennessee River, >from > >> >>near Erin in what is now Houston Co (that used to be Humphreys Co., and > >> >>then used to be Stewart Co.), and searched-out a new Homestead for his > >> >>family of 6, on Sugar Creek (near current-day Big Sandy) in Benton > County > >> >>(which used to be Barbados, which used to be Virginia, which used to be > >> >>Carolina, which used to be N. Carolina, which used to be Indian >Territory, > >> >>which used to be Humphreys County)......hoping to move his wife and >family > >> >>into a new home by Christmas....... > >> >> > >> >>Just after marring his young Scottish bride of 19, Nancy Beaton, on > >> >>February 13, 1812 in Stewart Co. at Dover., the then 38 year old Malcolm > >> >>McKenzie, joined Gen. Andrew Jackson (when he came thru the area > >> >>recruiting) to fight the British in the War of 1812. Malcolm was > >> >>reportedly 'Killed-in-Action' during the War, and Nancy received a >Widow's > >> >>Pension.....But then, Malcolm made a miraculous recovery from his > 'mortal > >> >>wounds' and returned home to receive only a 'wounded pension' from > the US > >> >>Government for his service...... > >> >> > >> >>Imagine if you would, what it might have been like in 1824, to enter > into > >> >>the Wilderness of then Humphreys County (which just a few years > prior had > >> >>been Indian Territory) and carve-out a new homestead.....alone.....for >your > >> >>wife and 6 kids. > >> >> > >> >>Malcom's parents (Gilbert & Margrette McKenzie) came to Wilmington, N. > >> >>Carolina in December 1774 after a 2 month voyage from Greenock, Scotland > >> >>aboard the ship, Diana. Margrette was pregnant with Malcolm during the > >> >>journey....she gave birth to Malcolm during the trip or shortley after > >> >>arriving in Wilmington. They left Scotland, after being reduced to > >> >>'bleeding' their cattle and drinking their blood to survive.....This is > >> >>another tale in itself...... > >> >> > >> >>Gilbert fought in the Revolutionary War with the British.....as did the > >> >>majority of Scotts who settled in the present day Carolinas and Georgia. > >> >>They suffered greatly after the War and their children (in this case > >> >>Malcolm) left the Raleigh area by 1812. Malcolm took the usual boat >route > >> >>from N. Carolina to Dover, Stewart Co. with a lot of the Scottish >Clans... > > >> >> > >> >>A little history......the names..Nancy and Ann... in Gaelic are the same > >> >>names.....contrary to popular belief....Nancy Beaton WAS NOT NAMED >...Nancy > >> >>ANN Beaton in 1793......that would be like calling President George > >> >>Bush....GEORGE GEORGE BUSH....her name was Nancy OR Ann...but NOT Nancy > >> >>Ann....it was Anglicized to Nancy Ann...... > >> >> > >> >>2nd....in Gaelic....surnames Beaton and Bethune....who were quite >prominent > >> >>in old Stewart, Humphreys, Houston and Benton Counties........are the > >> >>same.....pronounced ...bee-toon'.......The Beatons' or Bethunes' are an > >> >>extrememly respected religous name in old Scotland....as they were the > >> >>priests and ministers of the Church.....and were the founders of the >Church > >> > >> >>of Canada after most of the N. Carolina Scotts went to Canada after the > >> >>Revolutionary War....... > >> >> > >> >>I will tell you the story later as to how these Scotts fought with the > >> >>English (and this is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT historical >note............it's > >> >>ENGLISH and not BRITISH......you offend Wales, Ireland and Scotland >(these > >> >>folks HATED the ENGLISH in 1774) by including them in the >Revolutionary War > >> >>as 'British' ........the War was fought with ENGLAND and NOT...Wales, > >> >>Ireland and Scotland.....it was.... TOTALLY ENGLISH.... > >> >> > >> >>More stories later..... > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>But...... > >> >> > >> >>I have, in hand, copies of the Royal Peerage Charts of the McKenzies > back > >> >>to the 11th Century.....I received them from the current Laird of the > >> >>MacKenzies as a gift thru the Clan McKenzie of Canada....for personal > >> >>research connecting the Clans settlements in the Americas after the >Battle > >> >>of Collouden Moor in April of 1745........ > >> >> > >> >>THese are very rare documents, as they are NOT available to the General > >> >>Public..... > >> >> > >> >>Three things..... > >> >> > >> >>1. These gen-charts, from the 1000's to the late 1800's, provide a > >> >>genealogical history to a number of you in Northern Benton Country > >> >>(particularly around Big Sandy) and the surrounding counties. If you >have > >> >>an interest in them...I will provide you a copy (at whatever it cost >me to > >> >>reproduce them)......let me know.... > >> >> > >> >>2. I have established the link between Gilbert (b. 1740), his son >Malcolm > >> >>(b. 1774) of Benton Co. and the Ancient MacKenzie Clan > >> >>gen-charts...........I leave 'the link' for you to discover on your own > >> >>however......It is important to me..that you do this >yourselves......if you > >> >>find the right connections....I will provide you with missing > >>documents...... > >> >> > >> >>3. However, those of you who are descendant of Malcolms' son, Gilbert, > >> >>thru his son Jethro, and subsequently Fred McKenzie (who married Grace > >> >>Thelma Wimberley in 1921) may not find these 'Charts" of interest....you > >> >>may want to look to the Robbins' family genealogy >instead.......There's an > >> >>old genealogical ryhme, which has stood the test of time, (making a new > >> >>ryhme here <vbg>)...that goes......'Mamas' Baby...Daddy's Maybe'....You > >> >>research it.... and figure it out..... > > >> >> > >> >>Dave > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> >>What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > >> > > >> > > >> >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > >> > > >> > >> > >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >>GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: > >>They Hide & I Seek !! > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!!Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

HMMMM...well my gg grandmother was Philadelphia McElroy, dau of James McElroy and Rebecca Stokes. He was born about 1789 in Rockingham Co. NC. James was son of William McElroy and Mary Polly Hopkins of same. William was son of Archibald McElroy of Scotland who died they say, at King's Mountain, and Ann Aston. Archibald's parents were James McElroy and Sarah McCune of Va after arriving from across the pond in 1730 on the "George and Ann". They came with Irvines and McDowells. YOU KIN?? My gg grandmother married James Young Fitzhugh and is buried at Trinity Churchyard in Stewart Co. jan At 10:59 PM 1/21/02 -0500, you wrote: >Jan, > >Which McEroy's are you related to? I am gggranddaughter of Malinda McElroy >Cheatam Wynn. I believe they are from Henry Co. My greatuncle and I had a >head stone put down for Henry E. Wynn and Malinda in the Mt. Zion Cemetary on >the wildlife reserve. > >Ronda > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... >Now What ????

Jan, Which McEroy's are you related to? I am gggranddaughter of Malinda McElroy Cheatam Wynn. I believe they are from Henry Co. My greatuncle and I had a head stone put down for Henry E. Wynn and Malinda in the Mt. Zion Cemetary on the wildlife reserve. Ronda

Holy cats, Dave!!! Have you come up for air yet???? lolololol Ronda

Dave, Thanks anyway on the BETHANY--BEATON/BETHUNE thing. Gotta check any possibility. I don't have a whole lot on Martha Angelina/Angeline PIERCE, who was my gr-gr-grandmother. But here is what I have. According to my own estimate from Census records, etc., she was born ABT 1839 in Henry Co., TN. Her father was Augustus PIERCE son of Stephen PIERCE & Lavinia GEERS, but I have not been able to find anything on her mother. I have seven siblings for Martha...... Elizabeth Caroline, Lavinia Catherine, William B., Pinckney Stephen, George W., Mary Jane, & Sarah R. Augustus is buried in Barbee Cemetery in Henry Co., TN. She married Charles Homer BETHANY July 8, 1861 in Henry Co., TN, and moved to Benton Co. where he lived. C.H. already had seven children of his own and a step-son. This was his third marriage. Martha & C.H. had at least 12 children, the second being my gr-grandmother, Martha Jane. Sometime toward the end of the Civil war they moved to Texas Co., MO and remained there until about 1873 when they moved to Newton Co., AR. After C.H. died in Dec. 1900, she kept the property for a while, but then began moving around living with her children for several months to a year or so at a time. She died in August 1915 near Earlsboro, Pottawatomie Co., OK while living with one of her daughters, and is buried in an unmarked grave in the Earlsboro Cemetery. My grandmother showed me where the grave was years ago, so at least we know where it is. I hope to get a stone on it this year. There are a couple of discrepancies in the information I have accumulated that disagree with the above info. One is that some other BETHANY researchers have her middle name as Lucretia instead of Angelina. The second is a family story that Martha Angeline PIERCE was abandoned as an infant on the doorstep of the home of a minister, Augustus PIERCE. Martha was at least part Indian and may have been full-blood. The PIERCE family took her in and raised her as one of their own. It has been speculated that she was abandoned during the removal of the Cherokee's to Indian Territory since two of the trails used went through the area of Henry Co., TN where the PIERCE family lived. One theory is that her mother had died and she was left there so she would be taken care of. This is about all I have on her, other than a couple of pictures other researchers have sent me. I can send those directly to you, if you like. Do you have some additional info on Martha or C.H.? Thanks and have a good day, Jean