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    1. Re: Anne Robertson Johnston
    2. Linda G. Hayes
    3. Cacky, You mentioned that you are a member of the Old City Cem. Association of Nashville. Do you have a listing of those buried there or is there a cemetery book that is available? Looking for Elisha GARLAND, Jesse GARLAND, other early GARLANDs. Thanks, Linda >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 7/28/99, at 6:09 PM, CackyCline@aol.com wrote: > >>I am a mamber of Nashville's Old City Cemetery Assn., because I descend >from >>Anne Robetson Johnson Cockrill, who is buried there,... [along with the >rest >>of the Robertsons and many others who founded Nashville]. >> > > > >E-Mail: shagler@micron.net >HomePage: http://www.webpak.net/~shagler/index.htm >HomePage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~shagler/index.htm >Listowner for the HAGLER Mail list at Rootsweb; >If subscribed, post a message at: >HAGLER-L@rootsweb.com or HAGLER-D@rootsweb.com > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my grandparents didn't have any kids ??? > >

    07/29/1999 08:46:16
    1. Re: Saline Creek
    2. Hi, Can any of you Stewart Co., people tell me where Saline Creek is in Stewart? Although it is probably under Kentucky lake now, along with my FLETCHER ancestors' graves! Karen Alexander

    07/29/1999 06:05:33
    1. Choclet Gravy
    2. Kenneth Womack
    3. Though you'd enjoy another story about chocolate gravy. I know Dan Martin will <vbg>. Glenda * * * * * This is how I spell choclet gravy. I was raised on gravy and biscuits and beans and cornbread and we were poor and didn't want the other kids at school to know what we ate. And sometime Mama would make choclet gravy and we would put butter on top of that. There were nine of us kids so we didn't get the choclet very often but we were so happy when we did. We lived in Ohio most of our lives and, you know, they thought they were northerners. A schoolteacher told me one day that people from the South didn't have good sense cause they talked funny cause I used a short "I" instead of a long "I". Now, being from those good ole brier of Kentucky, I told her she was only a state farther north. She just smiled. I have thought of that teacher on many legs of my journey. While in college I had to take a prep class for English cause I had waited 20 years after high school to go. I corrected my English teacher for saying "brung" instead of "brought." You see, she was from the good ole state of Arkansas, another state that has been made fun of all of my life, and I might add with good reason at the moment -- depends on how you look at it whether you are a Democrat or not. My English teacher told me right fast, "Yeah, you'll have to excuse me. I have eat choclet gravy all my life and I can't spell choclet either." Devonna Sue Nobles Snodgrass <rattler@logixnet.net> born in Morgantown, Butler County, Kentucky Previously published by Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG, Missing Links: RootsWeb's Genealogy Journal, Vol. 4, No. 31, 28 July 1999.

    07/29/1999 05:41:21
    1. Re: Cemetery Preservation Group
    2. My appologies also. I didn't look at the send line. Sorry Toni

    07/29/1999 05:38:46
    1. Re: Cemetery Preservation Group
    2. Then I really do Thank you from the bottom of my heart Cathy. If more were like you we wouldn't have to worry that there will be nothing left for the future generations to see. Toni

    07/29/1999 05:37:53
    1. Re: Families at Willow Point Cemetery
    2. i just wanted to say how sorry i am to here that- i understand your anger- if that was my family, id go bullistic!! i thought cemeterys were protected by some sort of state laws or something? make me wonder about the condition of our family cememtery in decatur county( smith cemetery). i haven't been there in 15 years, and it was a good 2 miles off the road. it probably have a 2 million dollar mansion sitting on it. or worse, A trailer !!! Dont the deceased have any rights? Ann

    07/29/1999 05:03:14
    1. Re: Cemetery Preservation Group
    2. OOOOOPS ( red face) I really meant that note to Toni to be only to her... the e-mail I was replying to showed her as the sender and I did no realize it was going to the list until I hit "send" and it showed that was where it was going! I admit it was " chat", SORRY, folks! Maybe we have a probllem with our programs doing that, and I, for one , need to watch what I am doing! Catherine

    07/29/1999 04:25:07
    1. Re: Cemetery Preservation Group
    2. Toni, from the kin we share, I probably DID repair one or more of yours and your hubby's line's stones. i did make an offering to Rushing Creek Church to have Robin Rushing's stone set back up an demented in. That is one cemetery next to a church that IS affiliated with it! I just feel these ancesors deserve respect! I am also photographing all of them, so if they erode or are nroken again beyond repair, we will have a record of them all. Catherine

    07/29/1999 04:20:20
    1. Re: Cemetery Preservation Group
    2. Catherine, You make a person proud. I wish you could see the love and care taken with the cemetaries where I live. People here honor their dead in a ay you don't see in many places. We have a caretaker but each family also strives to care for the graves of their loved ones and for those who have no loved ones left here. If a tone gets broke and there is noone to pay for it, someone will put up a white cross and try to find all of the information on the person buried there for someone to find later. I am in the process of collecting all of the names and info in these cemetaries to put online and hope to get as much info as I can, so that others can check and see if there loved one is buried near here. Thank you for caring enough to take care of my husband and I's loved ones over there (even if you didn't directly take care of theirs you may have). I will try to do the same here in hopes that someone can find their long lost relative. Toni

    07/29/1999 03:48:10
    1. Re: Cemetery Listing
    2. Dave, I hope this "white trash" rots you know where. I cannot beleive that the people in charge of your permits there let him get away with this discusting displace of crap. ANYONE and I mean Anyone who disturbes our ancesters without regards to them or their descendants are sick and aught not to be allowed a burial place when it's their time to meet their maker. Stand up for tose people like you are doing and DON'T let them get away with this. Toni

    07/29/1999 03:33:40
    1. Re: Whitford
    2. Daniel L. Martin
    3. Hi Randy: I have a Marcilla Brandon, b. 23 Jan 1828, Stewart Co., TN, d. 25 Oct 1858, Stewart Co., TN, m. Elijah DeMoss Carney 12 May 1847, Stewart Co., TN. I don't have any children listed. Elijah was married 2nd to Elizabeth Sykes (11 Nov 1859). They had two children. I'm sorry, but I don't have the parents of Marcilla (your spelling is most likely right). If you find them I would appreciate the info. Dan Martin Nashville, TN ---------------- RWhitfords@cs.com wrote: > Looking for information on Marcella Brandon b Jan 23 1828 d Oct 25 1858 > in Stewart Co. Also looking for anything on William Clauson and/of his wife > Elizabeth Shemwell no dates. Thanks. Randy > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? -- Have I, therefore, become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Gal. 4:16 Jesus said: "I am The Way, The Truth And The Life, and nobody comes to the Father but by Me" John: 14:6 Christian Exchange, Inc: http://home.earthlink.net/~dlmartin2/cei/ggm.html God Bless America: http://www.wwd.net/user/sjackson/america.htm

    07/28/1999 11:14:27
    1. Spool knitters
    2. j
    3. Not sure if anyone answered Pozzydaz about how to use spool knitters or not, or whether some of the rest of you wanted to know...but yes, I know how. I have another trip to get through and a few hundred emails (not to mention those alligators), but will post when I get settled again. jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pozzydaz@aol.com> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Primitive toys > Does anyone know how to use one of the stool knitters? Mine is in the form of > a mushroom with the hole on the middle and 4 nails on the head. Pozzydaz > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired ??? > >

    07/28/1999 10:42:46
    1. Families at Willow Point Cemetery
    2. David L. Snow
    3. Just so some of you know some of the other families that were buried at Willow Point Cemetery <destroyed by some low-life scum that slithers thru life on his belly. "white trash" is to good a term to described this satanic worshiper.>: BEATON-MELTON Malcolm A. Beaton was born about 1797 in NC, died in the 1850's in Benton Co. TN, buried Point Willow Cem. He was the son of Charles Christopher Beaton. He was married about 1827 in Henry County to Mary Melton, born about 1805 in NC, died 1860's Benton Co. She was buried in Point Willow Cemetery. Thomas Jett Beaton <the son of Malcomb Beaton & Mary Melton>, 1837-1860's, he was never married. He died during Civil War and is buried in Point Willow Cemetery. Mary Jane (Polly) <the daughter of Malcomb Beaton & Mary Melton>, 1846-1860, born in Benton County and buried in Point Willow Cemetery near Big Sandy. She was never married. I think some of you are going to surprised at who else of your missing relatives are buried there, under a house trailer. Dave

    07/28/1999 07:22:09
    1. Re: Location, Location, Location
    2. theshadow
    3. Hi Folks, Sorry it took me so long to get back to you with my thanks for all of the information about Danville Crossing. I really appreciate knowing where it is and I especially liked all the reparteè and stories! Jean Hancock in TX

    07/28/1999 07:20:02
    1. Re: Cemetery Listing
    2. David L. Snow
    3. Hi Gabbie, Thanks for the information on the Library being closed and when it is expected to open. Thanks also for your offer to copy the Pleasant Ridge Cemetery from the Cemetery Book, but I already own the book, so have the information. The information in the book as to the directions to cemeteries along New Hope Road are mainly wrong. Pleasant Ridge is further down the road than 1.7 miles. The Willow Point Cemetery is at 1.7 miles. I spoke with Joan Hatley and Darlene Watkins / Christopher <whatever she goes by now>, as well as Virginia, when I was there a few ago, as to why it was left out of the Benton Co. Cemetery Book. All I received in answer to my questions was blank stares, I don't knows, and Darlene located & surveyed the cemetery but her input was ignored. I don't know what the right answer is and really don't care. I just know the Cemetery is not in the book and should be. Somebody within the last 30 years has demolished the Willow Point Cemetery for personal gain. I have persoanl accounts from members of Gen Society confirming what occured, and to top is all off, a trailer house was placed over it. I'm not going to get off this topic and will keep pressing and pressing until: 1. The Gen Society straightens out their maps and directions in their Cemetery Book for the cemeteries on New Hope Road. 2. They issue an Update to the book that includes Willow Point Cemetery. 3. The person who destroyed the Willow Point Cemetery is prosecuted under the Tennessee State Statues. I use this person as an example to my kids as to what "white trash" really is. This type of stuff has go on way to long in this area and needs to stop, NOW !! This isn't the personal property of the current landowner or the current county residents any longer. I for one will no longer allow this travesty to perputrated upon our heritage. Some of the people in that cemetery are my wife & children's grandparents and I will not let them be 'flushed on' without extracting a HEAVY price for what THEY have done !! And that includes the people who allowed it to occur. The above 'tongue lashing' is not meant for you, so please don't take it personally that I used your email as a vehicle to vent my frustration with this situation. I regard your inputs and discourse in high esteem, as I do the other members of the DC community. My anger is directed at the residents of Benton County who did this and those who let it happen with impunity. I only share with you my despair and disgust. Thanks again for your response, Dave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- At 03:28 PM 7/28/99 -0500, you wrote: >HI DAVE: > Shorty Brewer"s records are at present being indexed and sorted by the >Benton Co genealogy soc. and the OLD Library is closed and the NEW Library >want be open until some time in AUG.( probly last half) the County still >has to pave the lot and you know how slow they work? > the library staff is orgonizing all the books now and will have a lot of new >books when it opens : I will heep the Danville crossing web informed. > Dave I looked in our new Cemetery book for the willow Point Cem. at the >location you listed there is a Plasant Ridge Cemetery 1.7 mi from the "Y" on > the right side of New Hope Rd.it has a LOT of graves including 31 McKenzies > dating from John P McKenzie b April 21,1854 to last grave 1995 > I will zorex the graves you are interested in if you wish? but until the >NEW Library opens we can't research Shorty Brewer's records ( they were >Loose and in disray the last time I looked at them)but should be in order >when the Genealogy soc. finish's them,gabbie >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >At 05:31 PM 7/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >>Hi Folks, >> >>Would like to request a personal favor of someone in the area or who >>periodically goes to the area to compile a small listing of information >>contained in Hulon "Shorty" Brewer's Family Data Sheets housed in the >>Genealogy Room of the Benton County Library. I would be more than happy to >>compensate you for your time. >> >>Specifically I am looking for a compilation of all the individuals "Shorty" >>indicates are buried in Willow Point Cemetery, which is about 150 ft east, >>off New Hope Road 1.7 miles north of the New Hope - Lick Creek "Y", north >>of Big Sandy. >> >>My research and Shorty's records indicate only 14 McKenzies are buried >>there, yet earlier records and living-person accounts, indicate that up >>into the 1970's over 40 graves were visible. The cemetery has essentially >>been destroyed since then with only 5 graves and headstones remaining. The >>cemetery was not published in the Benton County Cemetery book. >> >>I have accounted for the the remaining McKenzies burial locations, so the >>other 26+ graves in that cemetery weren't McKenzies. I don't believe the >>Willow Point Cemetery was primarily a family cemetery, but instead was a >>communial cemetery for the folks in the area. >> >>I would appreciate your help in identifying who else is buried in Willow >>Point Cemetery and sharing the information with the lists. If you can see >>yourself setting aside a couple of hours for this endeavor. please contact >me. >> >>Thanks again, >> >>Dave >> >> >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >>My Family Tree has Root Rot !! >> >> > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... >Now What ???? >

    07/28/1999 06:35:46
    1. Re: DanvilleCrossing History
    2. j
    3. Hey Yall, Just hit town (momentarily) to about 700 messages...but wanted to tell you (before I get gone again) that we are already on track with the "memories and old stories" thing...started that as the reunion committee and already have some 25-30 from the Stewart area ready to roll.... Holler if you want more info on the plans for this...probably will fit in quite well with what you are talking here...was planning on calling it "The Tales They Told" (such as we have on the Stewart website, but very willing to share, incorporate, regroup or whatever...great minds tend to run in same circles I reckon! <vbg> jan ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel L. Martin <dlmartin2@earthlink.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 2:26 PM Subject: Re: DanvilleCrossing History > Dave: > > I have been trying to find time to write you about the Danville Crossing Reunion, > but I'm even deeper in those alligators. I guess the first thing would be to find > out what sort of information each member of the group has available. I guess we > could divide the info into: > > 1. Memories and recollections of Historic People > 2. Memories and recollections of Historic Places > 3. Memories and recollections of Historic Events > 4. Culture of the area during the different historic periods > 5. Folk tales > > There may be other divisions, and certainly there would be sub-divisions. > > I would like to have some volunteers to help collect, organize and catalogue the > information that is available on the list. One of the most important thing would > be to make sure that the source of the material is carefully documented, and any > necessary permission to re-print is obtained. If we have any writers, etc. on the > list, we could use your help. > > Let's have some feed-back so we know where we are going with this. > > Dan > ------------------ > > "David L. Snow" wrote: > > > Hey Dan, > > > > Thought you were off 'jet setting' again to exotic places of the > > world...........sorry we couldn't make it to the reunion, but need to make > > sure the family gets fed first. Will be there next year <have 2 weddings to > > attend at the same time>. > > > > Sounds like a plan. Would be great. > > > > Case in Point: received a package yesterday that contained recollections > > of an individual born c.1850 in the Big Sandy area. Extremely interesting > > to read. But the most important part is that it contained off-head > > information that has allowed me to confirm certain aspects or my research > > and correct erroneous data in other areas. For example, the "roadworks" > > listing of "hands" that I published earlier to the list was confirmed but > > with much more detail of who lived where first and later. What the > > neighbors did together. Pointed out that Pt. Mason road doesn't follow the > > route it originally did and neither did the Faxon road to Danville > > Crossing. Pointed out the McKenzie estate was orginally called "Willow" > > and the names of the 'creeks' in the area (Sugar Creek branches in > > particular) are named differently today. Confirmed that todays 'Willow > > Point Cemetry' existed and was named "Point Willow Springs" originally. > > That a 'Meeting House" and school existed their as early as 1835. All this > > from 14 pages from 17 years ago. One letter was from J.K.T. Smith, the > > Benton County Historian at the time. > > > > So much of our history, heritage and traditions have been lost & forgotten > > that I think we don't know who we are as a people & country sometimes. > > <this is an editorial comment> > > > > Anyway, it would be a fascinating project, but I'm up to my %^&* in > > alligators right now with other DC related activities. I know Jan & Cheryl > > and the members of the DC Homecoming 2000 Committee are also. I think we > > need the other members of the DC Community to organise and manage this > > project. The group is loaded with extrememly compotent, dedicated and > > knowledgeable folks who would do an excellent job on this project. Why not > > give them some of your leadership direction and "turn them loose". I think > > they would turn-out one of the best products of it's kind around. I can't > > believe the amount of information the folks have tucked away. Why don't > > you search some of them out, run intereference for them, and let them do > > their thing. As you already know, They're Good. > > > > Anyway, let me know. > > > > Dave > > PS: Say hello to Bobby for us. > > ============================================== > > At 09:04 AM 7/27/99 -0500, Daniel L. Martin wrote: > > >David, and Members of the List: > > > > > >I think this would be a great project for us. We could assemble a History of > > >Danville Crossing Region. It could contain early history and settlement, > > >families, events, etc., etc. It could be divided into counties. I'm sure > > you > > >folks can come up with some other ideas also. > > > > > >You know how valuable it is to find a very small original document or > > article on > > >some of our history. Well, we need to be thinking of creating those > > documents > > > > >and articles for future generations. It would be a shame to loose all those > > >stories that Ira has to tell. We must preserve them for those who follow. > > Our > > >group has many folks that have a wealth of information to share. Gabby, Ira, > > >Dave, Jan, and most of the rest of us. It would just take a little > > planning to > > >make a wonderful book of our memories and impressions of this historic area! > > > > > >Dan > > >----------------- > > --------Snip---------- > > -- > Have I, therefore, become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Gal. 4:16 > Jesus said: "I am The Way, The Truth And The Life, and nobody > comes to the Father but by Me" John: 14:6 > Christian Exchange, Inc: http://home.earthlink.net/~dlmartin2/cei/ggm.html > God Bless America: http://www.wwd.net/user/sjackson/america.htm > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: > They Hide & I Seek !! > > > >

    07/28/1999 05:36:09
    1. Re: Anne Robertson Johnston
    2. Sharon Hagler
    3. Catherine, Have a question for you? You mentioned in your E-Mail below about the Cemetery Preservation Groups that you are descended from Anne Robertson Johnston Cockrill.. In the History of Henry Co., TN in which it tells the the History of the HAGLER family, it says that Isabella K. HAGLER, daughter of Willis T. Hagler married a Charles Warmack Beasley. Charles Warmack Beasley was supposed to be descended from Ann Robertson's daughter, Elizabeth Johnston. Elizabeth was supposed to have married Nehemiah Courtney in 1790, and their daughter Ann A. Courtney was supposed to have married John Winfrey Beasley in 1805. They had a son, Nehemiah Courtney Beasley whom married Judith Warmack and it was their youngest son Charles Warmack Beasley whom married Isabella K. Hagler.. Now can you tell me if this information is correct? I would really appreciate any help on this line.. By the way , Willis T. Hagler, father of Isabella K. Hagler was a brother to my 3rd Gr. Grandmother, Nancy Hagler Storre Hagler.. (Nancy married the 2nd time her 1st cousin, Cleveland Hagler and this couple are my 3rd Gr. Grandparents..) Thanks...Sharon Hagler *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/28/99, at 6:09 PM, CackyCline@aol.com wrote: >I am a mamber of Nashville's Old City Cemetery Assn., because I descend from >Anne Robetson Johnson Cockrill, who is buried there,... [along with the rest >of the Robertsons and many others who founded Nashville]. > E-Mail: shagler@micron.net HomePage: http://www.webpak.net/~shagler/index.htm HomePage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~shagler/index.htm Listowner for the HAGLER Mail list at Rootsweb; If subscribed, post a message at: HAGLER-L@rootsweb.com or HAGLER-D@rootsweb.com

    07/28/1999 05:09:13
    1. Re: Whitford
    2. Looking for information on Marcella Brandon b Jan 23 1828 d Oct 25 1858 in Stewart Co. Also looking for anything on William Clauson and/of his wife Elizabeth Shemwell no dates. Thanks. Randy

    07/28/1999 04:31:27
    1. [Fwd: [eagle-forum-tn] The Failure of Congress to Challenge Clinton's Executive Orders]
    2. Daniel L. Martin
    3. Dear Friends: Notice especially the "Land Between the Lakes" mentioned as one of the areas involved in the United Nations intrusion into our nation's sovereignty. Dan Martin ------------------ BPatray@aol.com wrote: > Comment: How long are we going to tolerate this from the Clinton > Administration and let the Republican controlled Congress get by without > doing ANYTHING to stop this loss of individual and property rights?? > Already affected in Tennessee, the Great Smoky Mountains, the Land Between > the Lakes area, Mississippi River, etc. Bobbie > > AMERICAN POLICY CENTER > http://www.americanpolicy.org/plate.main/failure.html > > The Failure of Congress to Challenge Clinton’s Executive Orders > > Statement before the National Conference on Presidential Powers and Executive > Orders, Capitol Hill, Washington D.C., July 14, 1999 > > H.L Mencken once said, "A plan to save humanity is almost always a false > front for the urge to rule." > > This administration is full of its own ideas on how to save humanity, and has > made it clear that the mission is so urgent there simply isn’t time or > inclination to worry about consulting the nation’s legislative bodies before > it makes policy. > > As a result, the greatest stick-up in human history is well underway and > Americans are being told it’s all for their own good. And the deafening > silence you hear is the congresses lack of resistance - as America’s liberty > disappears under a central organizing theme called environmental protection. > > Imagine an America in which a specific "ruling principle" was created to > decide proper societal conduct for every citizen. That principle would be > used to consider everything you eat, what you wear, the kind of home you live > in, the way you get to work, the way you dispose of waste, the number of > children you have, even your education and employment decisions. > > And imagine that all of these decisions were called "voluntary" - but that > the Administration ruling over the vast apparatus of federal government would > use its full power to induce what it deems "correct behavior." > > SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT > > On June 29, 1993, President Clinton issued Executive Order #12852 to create > the Council on Sustainable Development. Sustainable Development is the > "ruling principle" for the implementation of what Vice President Al Gore says > in his book, "Earth in the Balance" that we must all suffer through in order > to purify our nation from the horrors of the Twentieth Century’s industrial > revolution. In the book he calls it - "a wrenching transformation of > society." > > Consequently, Sustainable Development calls for changing the very > infrastructure of the nation, away from highways to light rail train systems > and bike paths. It is the basis for Al Gore’s war on what he calls urban > sprawl. > > Under the guidelines of Sustainable Development, suburban housing, air > conditioning, high meat intake and frozen and convenience foods, use of > fossil fuels, and kitchen appliances are not sustainable. Vast numbers of > programs fueled by tax incentives and strong-arm regulations are changing the > very way Americans live. > > Programs coming out of the President’s Council on Sustainable Development are > being used to create curriculum in public schools to assure that students > obtain the proper environmental attitudes. Sustainable Development programs > are even involved in the creation of national education standards and high > school graduation rates. Have you ever wondered what such things have to do > with protection of the environment? > > Sustainable Development establishes partnerships among federal, regional, > state, local and tribal levels of government - and with business. These > programs oversee development of private property, housing design, > transportation patterns, and the establishment of government data banks. > > Sustainable Development even calls for a change in the way communities assess > their value. In the past, communities have measured wealth based on their > man-made infrastructure such as sewer systems, roads and buildings. Under > Sustainable Development, however, the new system is to count trees and > wildlife to asses community value - it’s called the "urban forest." > > That means that a developer seeking to cut down trees to build homes will no > longer be praised for adding to the value of the community but will, instead, > be seen to diminish its value by the destruction of the wildlife. When fully > implemented - America’s way of life will be turned upside down. > > Agree with the need for it or not - this is a huge change in the way America > is structured, influencing the way Americans live. > > But the process of implementing Sustainable Development is designed to bypass > U.S. Constitutional processes by utilizing non-elected individuals, federal > bureaucrats, Non-government organizations (NGO’s) and U.N agencies. > > Incredible as it may sound - the very concept of Sustainable Development has > never been endorsed or enacted by the U.S. Congress. Executive Order has been > the weapon of choice. > > AMERICAN HERITAGE RIVERS INITIATIVE > > A related threat to communities and private property owners located along the > nation’s rivers was created on April 7, 1998 through Executive Order #13061 > called the American Heritage Rivers Initiative. > > This Executive Order, quietly issued while Congress was on recess, represents > one of the biggest federal land grabs of all time. The program was sold as > little more than a warm and cozy federal hug where government agencies just > want to help local communities voluntarily improve their rivers. > > The Clinton Administration claimed the new program wouldn’t cost a dime. It > said the program was totally voluntary, and that any community or property > owner could get out of it "just by asking." The claim simply wasn’t true. But > it did show the lengths this Administration was willing to go in order to > sneak in a dangerous, damaging program. > > Katy McGinty, the former head of the President’s Council on Environmental > Quality, claimed that any community or property owner could get out of the > program simply by writing a letter to her department. However, when thousands > of citizens rose up in protest to write such letters - she changed the rules. > > Next she said only a Member of Congress or Senator could write such a letter > asking for exemption from the program. But when the entire Idaho > congressional delegation submitted such a letter to Ms McGinty during a > congressional hearing on the subject - she was shocked. Yet the program went > forward unabated. > > What the program did promise was an invasion of 13 federal agencies, directed > by a federally appointed "River Navigator." Cute name - but "River Czar" is > more appropriate. Under the program cities are finding that they have little > say about development along their river banks. Recreational activities like > fishing, swimming and boating now come under federal regulations. Much of > these activities may be curtailed by the river czar. Private property owners > are running into federal no-growth policies when trying to build on their own > land. > > In fact, the American Heritage Rivers Initiative is really little more than > federal zoning. It fits right in with its big sister - sustainable > development. > > Clearly, the Rivers Initiative is major policy. But not one vote was taken in > Congress to create it. Each River Navigator is given a salary of $100,000. 14 > rivers were initially chosen for the program - that’s almost a million and a > half dollars in expense. Add the usual related bureaucracy and paperwork and > the cost easily adds up to $5 million annually. Not a dime of that money was > appropriated by Congress for the program. > > To get it - the Clinton Administration had to raid other programs already > approved by Congress. In other words, the Rivers Initiative is nothing short > of a raid on the federal treasury and a misappropriation of funds. > > Members of Congress did protest. Don Young and Helen Chenoweth and others > even filed suit to stop the program - but Republican leadership took no > action to help, and as a result, today the American Heritage Rivers > Initiative is in full swing - illegal funds and all. > > BIOSPHERE RESERVES > > And as Sustainable Development is working to devour our communities - in the > more rural areas of the country the threat to private property is coming from > something called biosphere reserves. > > On these lands, designated solely by the United Nations, no development or > human activity is permitted. Buffer zones around the reserves are designed to > slowly choke off human activity. > > Once done, the boundaries of the reserve are increased and a new buffer zone > is established. Vast amounts of private property is located in these > territories and private owners - and even towns are being systematically > choked off. > > No legislation has been approved for this vast reorganization of the states. > In fact, the model for the program is a UN document called the Biodiversity > Treaty. Yet the treaty has never been ratified by the Senate. > > The Clinton Administration is simply implementing the provisions of the > treaty through the use of Executive Actions or Directives, carried out by > departments such as Interior. Again, no funds have been appropriated - and no > authority issued by the legislative branch - as called for in the > Constitution. > > LOCKING UP THE LAND > > In 1996, Bill Clinton signed a "Presidential Proclamation" to establish the > "Grand Staircase-Escalate National Monument to lock up 1.7 million acres of > south central Utah from any human development what-so-ever. Never mind the > private property that was affected by the move. Never mind the fact that > Clinton didn’t consult with a single elected official of Utah before taking > the action. > > Utah officials protested, but the only action taken against the land grab was > to give Utah some federal funds to appease it for its loss. No action in > Congress was ever taken to over turn the issue because it accepted the lame > excuse by the Administration that it was a one-time only raid. > > But so successful and painless was this land grab for the Administration that > just last month Clinton announced he will use the same tactic to grab 5 > million more acres involving six states - and cut that area off from human > use as well. > > Finally, legislation has been introduced by Congressman Jim Hansen to curb > Clinton’s blatant misuse of the little known Antiquities Act of 1906 which > the President is using to legitimize such massive land grabs. But is > congressional leadership behind it? Time will tell. > > INVASIVE SPECIES > > Perhaps the most bazaar environmental Executive Order is #13112, entitled > Invasive Species. This one creates a new federal bureaucracy called the > "Interagency Invasive Species Council." The new agency, under the direction > of Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt, will develop and enforce a master plan > to remove invasive species from public lands. > > What are invasive species, you might ask.? To quote the Executive Order, > "alien species means, with respect to a particular ecosystem, any species, > including seeds, eggs, spores, or other biological material capable of > propagating that species that is not native to that ecosystem." > > Because the Executive Order fails to define domesticated species, most > agricultural crop and animal species would clearly fall within the definition > of alien. Domesticated pets, many houseplants and Kentucky bluegrass used in > most lawns and golf courses would also be defined as alien species under this > Executive Order. In fact, with this Administration’s determination to bring > about a "wrenching transformation" of society - it could be determined that > some races of man may also be considered alien. > > So now, according to this new policy of the Clinton Administration, if a > homeowner plants a fruit tree or flower garden in his yard, or takes the > family dog for a walk, most likely he’s guilty of launching an invasion of > alien species on natural America. > > Of course farmers and cattle ranches are the real target of this Executive > Order. It is just one more plank in the stage that’s being set for the > radical transformation of America. > > CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS > > Careful study clearly shows there is a very specific purpose to all of these > environmental Executive Orders. It is the systematic restructuring of the > United States from a nation of private property, free enterprise and elected > representation to an America with a centrally controlled economy. > > Environmentalism is only the convenient excuse used so effectively to scare > concerned Americans into willing giving up their liberty. Bill Clinton, with > Al Gore in the forefront, is systematically implementing the agenda of the > radical, extremist environmental movement. And its being done - not through > legislation created by representatives who have to answer to the people - but > through the dictates of Executive Order. That way there is no opportunity for > debate. No chance to question the validity of the reasons given for the need > of the programs. And no chance for opposition to grow. America is changing > before our very eyes with virtually no discussion. > > After Bill Clinton signed Executive Order 13083, which would have virtually > done away with the tenth amendment of the Constitution, Presidential aide > Paul Begula was overheard to say, "Stroke of the pen, law of the land, kinda > cool." > > Well there is nothing cool about it. It’s a threat to our very Constitutional > system. That system will only survive if all branches of the government do > their job. > > Presidents have used Executive Orders throughout history. Even George > Washington used them. But those early orders were nothing more than internal > memos through which the President communicated to his staff, cabinet and > department heads, detailing how the Executive Branch would implement a new > law or regulation that had been enacted by the Congress. > > Only in recent years have presidents begun to use the Executive Order as a > way to create policy. And Bill Clinton has taken the practice to an art form. > But in fact, the use of Executive Orders to create policy or expend funds not > appropriated by the Congress is an infringement of Congressional powers, as > outlined in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. > > Just this year the Supreme Court ruled in Minnesota Vs Mille Lac, "the > President’s power to issue an Executive Order must stem either from an act of > congress or from the Constitution itself." > > The reason Bill Clinton’s avalanche of Executive Orders has become a national > problem is because the leadership in the Congress has refused to use its > power to challenge and stop them. The more Congress has ignored its > responsibility, the bolder Clinton has become in issuing even more. > > The Founding Fathers set up a brilliant system of checks and balances among > the three branches of the Federal government. But how could they have > foreseen that one branch would voluntarily give up its power to another - > especially when the Congress and the White House are controlled by rival > parties? > > By its own inaction, Congress is helping to create a Constitutional crisis, > and as a result, Bill Clinton is managing to change and restructure the > United States to his liking. > > As Senator Fred Thompson has said, "the two most important questions policies > makers must ask themselves are, ‘what should government be doing?’ and ‘at > what level of government should it be done?’ Everything else flows from them. > That’s why federalism is at the heart of our system." > > In 1966, Singer Barry McGuire sang ..."and you tell me over and over again, > you don’t believe we’re on the eve of destruction..." > > If the leadership of the Congress of the United States doesn’t soon stand up > and take action - if it doesn’t back up the efforts of courageous Members > like Congressman Metcalf, - to stop Bill Clinton’s use of Executive Orders as > an end run around the legislative process - then the system so brilliantly > conceived by the founding fathers - is certainly on the eve of destruction. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Return to APC Home Page > > American Policy Online > Copyright © 1998 American Policy Center > > --- > You are currently subscribed to eagle-forum-tn as: [danmartin@xc.org] > To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-eagle-forum-tn-3790Y@XC.Org -- Have I, therefore, become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? 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    07/28/1999 03:32:27
    1. Re: Cemetery Listing
    2. Raymon Lindsey
    3. HI DAVE: Shorty Brewer"s records are at present being indexed and sorted by the Benton Co genealogy soc. and the OLD Library is closed and the NEW Library want be open until some time in AUG.( probly last half) the County still has to pave the lot and you know how slow they work? the library staff is orgonizing all the books now and will have a lot of new books when it opens : I will heep the Danville crossing web informed. Dave I looked in our new Cemetery book for the willow Point Cem. at the location you listed there is a Plasant Ridge Cemetery 1.7 mi from the "Y" on the right side of New Hope Rd.it has a LOT of graves including 31 McKenzies dating from John P McKenzie b April 21,1854 to last grave 1995 I will zorex the graves you are interested in if you wish? but until the NEW Library opens we can't research Shorty Brewer's records ( they were Loose and in disray the last time I looked at them)but should be in order when the Genealogy soc. finish's them,gabbie - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- At 05:31 PM 7/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Folks, > >Would like to request a personal favor of someone in the area or who >periodically goes to the area to compile a small listing of information >contained in Hulon "Shorty" Brewer's Family Data Sheets housed in the >Genealogy Room of the Benton County Library. I would be more than happy to >compensate you for your time. > >Specifically I am looking for a compilation of all the individuals "Shorty" >indicates are buried in Willow Point Cemetery, which is about 150 ft east, >off New Hope Road 1.7 miles north of the New Hope - Lick Creek "Y", north >of Big Sandy. > >My research and Shorty's records indicate only 14 McKenzies are buried >there, yet earlier records and living-person accounts, indicate that up >into the 1970's over 40 graves were visible. The cemetery has essentially >been destroyed since then with only 5 graves and headstones remaining. The >cemetery was not published in the Benton County Cemetery book. > >I have accounted for the the remaining McKenzies burial locations, so the >other 26+ graves in that cemetery weren't McKenzies. I don't believe the >Willow Point Cemetery was primarily a family cemetery, but instead was a >communial cemetery for the folks in the area. > >I would appreciate your help in identifying who else is buried in Willow >Point Cemetery and sharing the information with the lists. If you can see >yourself setting aside a couple of hours for this endeavor. please contact me. > >Thanks again, > >Dave > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My Family Tree has Root Rot !! > >

    07/28/1999 02:28:30