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    1. Re: [DC] Sunday Afternoon Rocking
    2. tharper
    3. One word Jan. BEAUTIFUL!! Toni -----Original Message----- From: j <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, September 23, 2000 8:53 PM Subject: [DC] Sunday Afternoon Rocking >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >For those of you who have already read this, I apologize. My mind is not >on the creation of another Sunday Rocking piece today, and nothing I have >written previously seems to fit. And so I share with you a tribute I wrote >for an elder my family said good-bye to this week. Writing my memories >seemed to help me tell her good-bye, seemed to comfort others of our >family...and I hope that others of you will do the same for those elders >you too must say good-bye to one day...I think you will find it ealing. -jan > >Memories of Aunt Kay (from the Sunday Afternoon Rocking series) > >She was the "family glue". She was the dispenser of laughs and good humor. >She was the kitchen wonder who could have a "spread on the table" faster >than an unannounced visitor could walk from the drive to the back porch. >She was the listening ear that all members of the family shared their >secrets with, and knew those secrets would go no further. Her phone rang at >all hours, and folks dropped in at any time...she knew no strangers and >anyone she met she managed to turn into a friend. Hers was the home with >all the little comfort nooks...great cushy chairs here, rockers there, >swings here, little corners inside and out her home that invited a person >to simply curl up...relax. Hers was the home so comfortable that my father, >when needing a break, would come to her house and dare her to tell anyone >else in the family he was in town until he had rested and was up to >"visiting". She was the one who would, with sparkling eyes, tell you your >visit to her was "better than a dose of medicine", when in fact, you knew >it was quite the other way around. > >Today my aunt's laughter was finally silenced. The aunt who cuddled with me >forty years ago in a great soft feather bed and lulled me to sleep with >"fuzzy wuzzy bear" stories...the aunt who for years was my escape from the >stresses of young motherhood and a demanding career...the aunt who listened >to my secrets...who naughtily shared a smoke....who charmed my children >with her "red" room and "blue" room and "lavender" room....the aunt who >never forgot to have on hand my children's "favorite treats"....the aunt >who was the "family glue" has moved on to another family. >Typically, she handled her illness with stoicism, laughing in the face of >it, refusing to accept it, never speaking of it or inviting talk of it, >pushing herself to the limit and giving to her family right up until there >was nothing left of her to give. Pleasant aromas drifted from her kitchen >until she could no longer stand long enough to cook, and her welcome rang >out to an open back door long after she was able to walk to greet visitors. > >My Aunt Kay's body died today. But nothing else about her did. I have no >doubt her laughter is ringing as she is herself welcomed as she spent a >lifetime welcoming. And there is no doubt that the many of us, family and >friends, who were comforted in her warm cheerful presence will keep her >alive, revisiting many times the memories she made for us. > >"Come in here!" she would say laughing, greeting me at the door, "And what >do you mean...staying away so long??" Well, Aunt Kay, I don't suppose I was >ever "away"... your presence has warmed me all of my life, whether I was >physically in it or remembering it when I was away...and now you are >away...and your presence warms me still, and always will. Goodbye, dear >aunt...till we meet again. > >Love, >jan >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >(Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be >shared...simply share as written without alterations...and in entirety. >Thanks, jan) >Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday >Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per >week will come across it, that being the column. To subscribe send email to >[email protected] >Comments about the content of these messages can be sent to >[email protected] >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >_________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Okay.... so I don't descend from anyone...... >Now What ????

    09/25/2000 01:39:01
    1. [DC] Re: Benjamin Ruff
    2. Marie Barnes
    3. Joyce, My ggg grandfather, Benjamin Ruff was reportedly born in North Carolina about 1812. I believe he was part of the Ruff, Eason, and other related families that migrated from North Carolina to Carroll County, Tennessee about 1828. Also in Carrol County, Tennessee at this time were a John Ferdinand Ruff and Chloe Eason family and a Henry Ruff and Nancy Smith Family.This Benjamin first settled in Carroll County, and then became the first permenant white settler in what was to become Cornersville, Mississippi. In the 1830's he traded with the Indians.I have information on his descendants. I can not be sure who is father was. I would like to know more about this Benjamin Ruff you are researching. It is possible that they are related. Descendants of Benjamin F. Ruff 1 Benjamin F. Ruff 1812 - 1861 b: Abt. 1812 in Greene County, North Carolina d: April 1861 in Cornersville, Marshall County, Mississippi . +Martha 1820 - b: Bet. 1820 - 1824 in North Carolina ...... 2 Newton F. Ruff 1840 - 1875 b: 1840 in Marshall County, Mississippi d: Abt. 1875 in Decatur County,Tennessee .......... +Fannie ( Pliamy?) Morrison 1842 - 1875 b: 1842 in Alabama d: Abt. 1875 in Decatur County, Tennessee .............. 3 Oscar Allen Ruff 1866 - 1938 b: December 24, 1866 in Marshall County, Mississippi d: May 27, 1938 in Manley Chapel, Benton County, Tennessee .................. +Lucy Eter Rice 1872 - 1954 b: February 08, 1872 in Decatur County, Tennessee d: February 08, 1954 in Manley Chapel, Benton County, Tennessee ...................... 4 Joe Mackie Ruff 1901 - 1963 b: March 19, 1901 in Morgans Creek, Benton, County,Tennessee d: August 16, 1963 in Baptist Hospital, Memphis, Tennessee .......................... +Pearl Marie Prater 1903 - 1960 b: July 04, 1903 in Clifton, Wayne County,Tennessee d: February 29, 1960 in Lansing, Michigan ...................... 4 Maggie M. Ruff 1891 - 1892 b: October 20, 1891 in Morgans Creek, Benton County, Tennessee d: September 20, 1892 in Manleys Chapel, Sugar Tree,Benton, County,Tennessee ...................... 4 Family Amily (Tid) Anna Ruff 1893 - 1968 b: March 30, 1893 in Morgans Creek, Benton County, Tennessee d: March 03, 1968 in Winters, California .......................... +Garvin Thomas 1887 - 1949 b: March 08, 1887 in Tennessee d: December 13, 1949 in Winters, California ...................... 4 Jim Buck Ruff 1895 - 1986 b: April 23, 1895 in Morgans Creek, Benton County, Tennessee d: April 21, 1986 in Beaumont, Jefferson County,Texas .......................... +Doshie Earnest Prater 1898 - 1990 b: January 25, 1898 in Decatur County, Tennessee d: September 25, 1990 in Beaumont, Jefferson County, Texas ...................... 4 Runa Ruff 1897 - 1900 b: December 10, 1897 in Morgans Creek, Benton County, Tennessee d: October 13, 1900 in Manleys Chapel, Benton County,Tennessee ...................... 4 Janetta (Nettie) Ruff 1898 - 1920 b: September 20, 1898 in Morgans Creek, Benton County,Tennessee d: January 12, 1920 in Manleys Chapel, Benton County, Tennessee .......................... +[1] Cecil Bibb - 1921 d: September 12, 1921 in Benton County, Tennessee ...................... 4 Paul Nute (Bill) Ruff 1903 - 1951 b: August 18, 1903 in Morgans Creek, Benton County, Tennessee d: February 27, 1951 in Manley Chapel, Benton County, Tennessee .......................... +None ...................... 4 Alton Parker (John) Ruff 1904 - 1985 b: November 18, 1904 in Morgans Creek, Benton County, Tennessee d: September 22, 1985 in Wessons Chapel, Sugar Tree, Decatur County, Tennessee .......................... +Stella Shannon 1913 - 1984 b: February 23, 1913 in Decatur County, Tennessee d: February 28, 1984 in Sugar Tree, Decatur County, Tennessee ...................... 4 Zoe Marie Ruff 1906 - 1950 b: April 02, 1906 in Morgans Creek, Benton County, Tennessee d: March 08, 1950 in Mt Carmel Methodist Cemetery, Camden, Tennessee .......................... +Joseph (Joe) Gibson 1891 - 1983 b: April 08, 1891 d: January 08, 1983 in Parsons, Decatur County, Tennessee ...................... *1st Husband of Zoe Marie Ruff: .......................... +[1] Cecil Bibb - 1921 d: September 12, 1921 in Benton County, Tennessee ...................... *2nd Husband of Zoe Marie Ruff: .......................... +Samuel Prater 1895 - b: Abt. 1895 ...................... *3rd Husband of Zoe Marie Ruff: .......................... +George Hoskins 1896 - 1974 b: 1896 d: 1974 in Mt Carmel Methodist Cemetery, Camden, Tennessee ...................... 4 Lawson Berry (Dink) Ruff 1910 - 1963 b: September 22, 1910 in Morgans Creek, Benton County, Tennessee d: April 27, 1963 in Manleys Chapel, Benton County, Tennessee .......................... +None .............. 3 Elbert Ruff 1869 - 1938 b: March 02, 1869 in Decatur County, Tennessee d: November 17, 1938 in Wesleyan Methodist Cemetery, Rush County, Indianna .................. +Nancy Anna (Annie) Wall 1875 - 1953 b: September 09, 1875 in Indianna d: May 11, 1953 in Wesleyan Methodist Cemetery, Rush County, Indianna ...................... 4 Joel Newton Ruff 1899 - 1956 b: February 06, 1899 in Indianna d: January 13, 1956 in Connersville Dale Cemetery, Connersville, Indiana .......................... +Hazel Edna Shaw 1901 - b: July 19, 1901 ...................... 4 Pearl Emaline Ruff 1896 - 1898 b: May 24, 1896 in Rush County, Indiana d: January 07, 1898 in Rush County, Indiana ...................... 4 John Allen Ruff 1901 - 1956 b: September 26, 1901 d: June 06, 1956 .......................... +Thelma Lolita Movie ...................... 4 Alvie Ruff 1905 - 1999 b: April 01, 1905 d: September 12, 1999 in Washington Park Cemetery, Indanapolis, Indiana .......................... +James W. Roe ...................... 4 Fanny Ruff 1911 - b: July 12, 1911 ...................... 4 Gladys Audrey Ruff 1913 - 1984 b: September 27, 1913 d: May 16, 1984 in Oaklawn Memorial Gardens, Indianapolis, Indiana .......................... +Herbert Otto Williams 1911 - 1987 b: May 11, 1911 d: January 08, 1987 ...... 2 Thomas L. Ruff 1842 - b: 1842 in Tennessee d: in Buried Gerzium Cemetary, Union County, Mississippi .......... +Nancy E Parr 1845 - 1923 b: Bet. January 1845 - 1848 in Mississippi d: 1923 in Myrtle, Union County, Mississippi .............. 3 Molly Ruff 1864 - b: Abt. 1864 in Mississippi .............. 3 Wiliam Ruff 1870 - b: 1870 in Mississippi .............. 3 Georgia Ruff 1872 - b: 1872 in Mississippi .............. 3 Kelse Ruff 1875 - b: 1875 in Mississippi .............. 3 Henry Ruff 1878 - b: 1878 in Mississippi .............. 3 Joe Ruff 1879 - b: 1879 in Mississippi .............. 3 Howard L Ruff 1881 - 1959 b: May 28, 1881 in Mississippi d: August 03, 1959 in Union Co., Mississippi buried Glenfield Cemetary ...... 2 Sis Ruff 1844 - 1850 b: 1844 in Mississippi d: Bet. 1850 - 1860 in Or is she Juilia Ruff who marries John Rogers? ...... 2 John Franklin Ruff 1845 - 1910 b: December 15, 1845 in Mississippi d: January 08, 1910 in Cornersville, Marshall County, Mississippi .......... +Julia Isabella Huett 1848 - 1903 b: November 02, 1848 d: August 28, 1903 in Cornersville, Marshall County, Mississippi .............. 3 Benjamin F. Ruff 1867 - b: June 1867 in Mississippi .................. +Martha Rosa 1874 - b: May 1874 in Mississippi ...................... 4 Roy L Ruff 1892 - b: July 1892 in Mississippi ...................... 4 Earl V Ruff 1895 - b: 1895 in Mississippi ...................... 4 Clarence E Ruff 1898 - 1901 b: April 1898 in Mississippi d: Bet. 1901 - 1910 .............. 3 Martha Ruff 1870 - b: 1870 in Mississippi .............. 3 Leta Ruff 1875 - b: August 1875 in Mississippi .............. 3 William Ruff 1873 - b: 1873 in Mississippi .............. 3 Rebecca B Ruff 1876 - b: 1876 in Mississippi .................. +Albert B Luckit 1877 - b: Abt. 1877 in Mississippi ...................... 4 Capola L Luckit 1903 - b: Abt. 1903 in Mississippi .............. 3 Ella Ruff 1878 - b: 1878 in Mississippi .............. 3 Hattie Ola Ruff 1880 - 1883 b: February 18, 1880 in Mississippi d: July 01, 1883 in Cornersville, Marshall Co., Mississippi .............. 3 Marvin Ruff 1884 - 1925 b: February 02, 1884 in Mississippi d: February 02, 1925 in Cornersville, Marshall Co., Mississippi .................. +Ruby Durward 1884 - 1971 b: December 15, 1884 d: April 15, 1971 in Cornersville, Marshall Co., Mississippi ...................... 4 Marvin Gupid Ruff 1924 - 1924 b: March 15, 1924 in Cornersville, Marshall Co., Mississippi d: March 15, 1924 in Cornersville, Marshall Co., Mississippi .............. 3 Topsil Ruff 1886 - b: April 1886 in Mississippi .............. 3 John T Ruff 1889 - b: September 1889 in Mississippi .................. +Carrie L 1890 - b: Abt. 1890 in Mississippi ...... 2 James Redman Ruff 1847 - 1917 b: August 27, 1847 in Marshall County, Mississippi d: January 31, 1917 in Holly Springs, Marshall County, Mississippi .......... +Fannie B Estes 1851 - b: Abt. 1851 in North Carolina .............. 3 Olive Ruff 1872 - b: 1872 in Mississippi .................. +William Jefferies ...... 2 Leeman (Bud) Ruff 1849 - 1927 b: October 19, 1849 in Mississippi d: December 16, 1927 in Union County, Mississippi .......... +Prudence S Ford 1854 - 1926 b: November 23, 1854 in Mississippi d: November 13, 1926 in Union County, Mississippi .............. 3 Carrie C Ruff 1887 - b: October 1887 in Mississippi .............. 3 Virgie L Ruff 1888 - b: December 1888 in Mississippi .............. 3 Agnes I Ruff 1890 - b: January 1890 in Mississippi .............. 3 Irene L Ruff 1891 - b: Abt. 1891 in Mississippi .............. 3 Gaston J Ruff 1895 - b: December 1895 in Mississippi ...... 2 William H. Ruff 1853 - 1927 b: August 17, 1853 in Mississippi d: October 06, 1927 in Cornersville, Marshall County, Mississippi .......... +Evadna E McCauley 1843 - 1933 b: April 09, 1843 in North Carolina ( sister-in-law) d: November 17, 1933 in Cornersville, Marshall Co., Mississippi ...... *1st Wife of William H. Ruff: .......... +Pattie Card 1862 - 1889 b: January 02, 1862 d: December 16, 1889 in Cornersville, Marshall County, Mississippi .............. 3 Lillian L Ruff 1883 - b: May 1883 in Mississippi .............. 3 Charles Spurgeon Ruff 1889 - 1963 b: July 30, 1889 in Mississippi d: May 26, 1963 in Cornersville, Marshall Co., Mississippi ...... 2 Martha B. Ruff 1855 - b: Abt. 1855 in Mississippi ...... 2 Julie Ruff b: in ?relationship to B F Ruff,could be Sis b1844? .......... +John Rogers ...... 2 Benella Ruff 1851 - b: Abt. 1851 in Mississippi I look forward to you comments. Take care. Marie [email protected] wrote: > Hi Marie: > > Gena thought maybe you might have some answers to my questions about a > Benjamin Ruff. Please let me know if you have him and if he is associated > with Bedford CO., VA. > > Have you been in touch with Marie Barnes? It seems like she had a Benjamin > Ruff? Her email is [email protected] > Good luck, Gena > Hi Gena: > > I need a favor if possible. I have this Benjamin Ruff that appears in some > papers I have found buying land in Bedford CO., VA in 1766. I have a court > record coming to me where he had gun rights but I do not know the year just > now. I saw a Benjamin Ruff in the census index for SC in 1820 & 184o but > nothing beyond that. Have you seen this Ruff name in your travels? Do you > have a copy of any of the SC census records with him listed and who was > listed with him? He may be a link for me but frankly, following this Ruff > bunch is no easy task. > > I called the movarian archives and inquired about Ruff's. There was 1 Ruff > formerly a Snyder that died in 1997. So no luck there. Anything you might > find is appreciated. If Ben bought land in 1760 I'd say he was beyond 20 at > least and maybe older. SO if he is the one in the SC census he would have > been well over 60. He never appears in the VA census records. > > Thanks, > Joyce

    09/24/2000 04:39:31
    1. [DC] Sunday Afternoon Rocking
    2. j
    3. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For those of you who have already read this, I apologize. My mind is not on the creation of another Sunday Rocking piece today, and nothing I have written previously seems to fit. And so I share with you a tribute I wrote for an elder my family said good-bye to this week. Writing my memories seemed to help me tell her good-bye, seemed to comfort others of our family...and I hope that others of you will do the same for those elders you too must say good-bye to one day...I think you will find it healing. -jan Memories of Aunt Kay (from the Sunday Afternoon Rocking series) She was the "family glue". She was the dispenser of laughs and good humor. She was the kitchen wonder who could have a "spread on the table" faster than an unannounced visitor could walk from the drive to the back porch. She was the listening ear that all members of the family shared their secrets with, and knew those secrets would go no further. Her phone rang at all hours, and folks dropped in at any time...she knew no strangers and anyone she met she managed to turn into a friend. Hers was the home with all the little comfort nooks...great cushy chairs here, rockers there, swings here, little corners inside and out her home that invited a person to simply curl up...relax. Hers was the home so comfortable that my father, when needing a break, would come to her house and dare her to tell anyone else in the family he was in town until he had rested and was up to "visiting". She was the one who would, with sparkling eyes, tell you your visit to her was "better than a dose of medicine", when in fact, you knew it was quite the other way around. Today my aunt's laughter was finally silenced. The aunt who cuddled with me forty years ago in a great soft feather bed and lulled me to sleep with "fuzzy wuzzy bear" stories...the aunt who for years was my escape from the stresses of young motherhood and a demanding career...the aunt who listened to my secrets...who naughtily shared a smoke....who charmed my children with her "red" room and "blue" room and "lavender" room....the aunt who never forgot to have on hand my children's "favorite treats"....the aunt who was the "family glue" has moved on to another family. Typically, she handled her illness with stoicism, laughing in the face of it, refusing to accept it, never speaking of it or inviting talk of it, pushing herself to the limit and giving to her family right up until there was nothing left of her to give. Pleasant aromas drifted from her kitchen until she could no longer stand long enough to cook, and her welcome rang out to an open back door long after she was able to walk to greet visitors. My Aunt Kay's body died today. But nothing else about her did. I have no doubt her laughter is ringing as she is herself welcomed as she spent a lifetime welcoming. And there is no doubt that the many of us, family and friends, who were comforted in her warm cheerful presence will keep her alive, revisiting many times the memories she made for us. "Come in here!" she would say laughing, greeting me at the door, "And what do you mean...staying away so long??" Well, Aunt Kay, I don't suppose I was ever "away"... your presence has warmed me all of my life, whether I was physically in it or remembering it when I was away...and now you are away...and your presence warms me still, and always will. Goodbye, dear aunt...till we meet again. Love, jan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be shared...simply share as written without alterations...and in entirety. Thanks, jan) Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per week will come across it, that being the column. To subscribe send email to [email protected] Comments about the content of these messages can be sent to [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________

    09/23/2000 03:09:17
    1. [DC] Moving a Cemetery, St. Louis, Mo.
    2. Elizabeth Beth Lackey
    3. --WebTV-Mail-20367-3149 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit This cemetery is being moved due to the airport expanding. I thought you all would like the surname list to check that was forwarded to me. This is pretty sad, no r.i.p here. If you all have any questions the address below is where you need to reply to, I have no other information. Beth --WebTV-Mail-20367-3149 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.121) by storefull-178.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 07:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtpin-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id F26AD125; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 07:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by smtpin-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE46160 for <[email protected]>; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 07:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [email protected] by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id 2.72.3448526 (4006) for <[email protected]>; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:49:12 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:49:12 EDT Subject: Re: Cemetery, St. Louis To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 120 BRIDGETON MEMORIAL PARK Bridgeton, Missouri This burying ground at 4616 Long Road was made into a memorial park in 1962. In 1959 several lawsuits were filed against the City for allowing the cemetery to deteriorate. Individual stones had already been removed "through error and misunderstanding" but members of the Bridgeton Historical Commission were able to learn the names of some who were buried there and a large monument was erected in 1963 which bears this inscription, "We honor the people buried here. They were part of this nations adventure and their vision lighted the path we follow today." At the dedication ceremonies, Mrs. Anna Wilson gave a talk about colored veterans who are buried here. Records indicate that the cemetery was integrated from its beginning in 1958. It was in use as late as 1954 and at least 100 people are buried in the two acres. On the bronze plaque of the monument are the following names: Annie Adams

    09/23/2000 09:26:34
    1. Re: [DC] Still Looking
    2. Don't know if this will help you or not but I've found on several occasions that the name 'Lum' is usually short for Columbus. You might want to try looking for a Columbus 'Lum' Jones. Kaye

    09/21/2000 07:04:05
    1. [DC] Still Looking
    2. Has ANYONE ever heard of a LUM JONES. Ever seen a LUM JONES in any cemeteries, Books, prison records ANYTHING. Thanks again Pat in Michigan

    09/21/2000 04:38:32
    1. [DC] Lewis Gilbert Beasley
    2. Could someone out there please do a lookup for Stewart County 1880 Census for me? I am looking for a Lewis Gilbert Beasley b 1832 in Trigg Co, KY, d 22 Mar 1914 Stewart Co, TN. In 1877 he married Sarah Humphreys. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Who were Sarah's parents? I have four children listed for Lewis & Sarah - only one name, Grover Cleveland Beasley (1874-1954). Who were the other children? Thanks for your help... Jean S.

    09/20/2000 07:01:14
    1. Re: [DC] Death in family
    2. Renea Burkholder
    3. I'm so sorry, Jan. Renea Burkholder [email protected] TNGenWeb Decatur Co., TN http://www.netease.net/decatur/ TNGenWeb Perry Co., TN http://www.netease.net/perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "j" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:01 PM Subject: [DC] Death in family > My aunt in Dover passed away today. > > Kay Dennis Thomason > Dec. 28, 1918-Sept. 18, 2000 > > She was preceeded in death by parents Thomas M. Dennis and Minnie Fitzhugh, > her brother Thomas H. Dennis, her husband Milford Douglas Thomason, her > daughter Carolyn Sue Taylor. She leaves behind two grandchildren and four > great grandchildren, three sisters, and one neice. Arrangements have not > been made. Interment will be in Hillcrest Cemetery. > > jan > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > >

    09/19/2000 02:28:08
    1. Re: [DC] Death in family
    2. Jan, Sorry to hear of your loss. God's blessings on your family. Jessie

    09/19/2000 11:53:13
    1. Re: [DC] Death in family
    2. tharper
    3. Jan, My thoughts are with you and your family over the loss you have suffered. I know your Auntie went to a better place and she is meeting up with all those ancestors you have reminded her her of by your questions in the recent years. She will probably be telling them of all your work and they will proudly smile down on you knowing that through your research and questions you are keeping them very much "alive" Take Care and if you need me I am just a click away. Toni -----Original Message----- From: j <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:53 PM Subject: [DC] Death in family >My aunt in Dover passed away today. > >Kay Dennis Thomason >Dec. 28, 1918-Sept. 18, 2000 > >She was preceeded in death by parents Thomas M. Dennis and Minnie Fitzhugh, >her brother Thomas H. Dennis, her husband Milford Douglas Thomason, her >daughter Carolyn Sue Taylor. She leaves behind two grandchildren and four >great grandchildren, three sisters, and one neice. Arrangements have not >been made. Interment will be in Hillcrest Cemetery. > >jan > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ??

    09/19/2000 01:59:34
    1. Re: [DC] Death in family
    2. gildent
    3. Dear Jan, My thoughts and prayers are with you!! Caroline [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: j <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:01 PM Subject: [DC] Death in family > My aunt in Dover passed away today. > > Kay Dennis Thomason > Dec. 28, 1918-Sept. 18, 2000 > > She was preceeded in death by parents Thomas M. Dennis and Minnie Fitzhugh, > her brother Thomas H. Dennis, her husband Milford Douglas Thomason, her > daughter Carolyn Sue Taylor. She leaves behind two grandchildren and four > great grandchildren, three sisters, and one neice. Arrangements have not > been made. Interment will be in Hillcrest Cemetery. > > jan > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? >

    09/19/2000 12:49:43
    1. [DC] Re: Death in family
    2. Ray Herrington
    3. Jan Gen. 25:8 says " Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a GOOD OLD AGE, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people." I want you to know that I share your sorrow at the (temporary) separation from your dear Aunt Kay, while I join you in rejoicing at her "home-going" ! The Lord is gently wrapping his sweet arms around her right now, and showing her to her celestial "mansion". Glory ! Nearly 82 years of making her mark on her family and her community. What contributions she must have made, and who knows how many countless lifes she effected, and what impact she had, serving as a guide-post and role-model for several generarions. What love and devotion she must have shared. What skills, abilities, and encouragement she must have passed on to others. What affection and appreciation she gave to, and received from, her devoted neice. She suffered long and hard, but she will never EVER suffer again. Now, and from now on, she is experiencing "...Joy unspeakable and full of glory" ! (1 Peter 1:8) THANK YOU JESUS ! God bless, Ray ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: j <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:48 PM Subject: [DC] Death in family >My aunt in Dover passed away today. > >Kay Dennis Thomason >Dec. 28, 1918-Sept. 18, 2000 > >She was preceeded in death by parents Thomas M. Dennis and Minnie Fitzhugh, >her brother Thomas H. Dennis, her husband Milford Douglas Thomason, her >daughter Carolyn Sue Taylor. She leaves behind two grandchildren and four >great grandchildren, three sisters, and one neice. Arrangements have not >been made. Interment will be in Hillcrest Cemetery. > >jan > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > >

    09/18/2000 08:28:24
    1. Re: [DC] Death in family
    2. Jan, Sorry to hear about your loss. May the good Lord be with you and your family. Janet Litton

    09/18/2000 06:09:53
    1. [DC] Death in family
    2. j
    3. My aunt in Dover passed away today. Kay Dennis Thomason Dec. 28, 1918-Sept. 18, 2000 She was preceeded in death by parents Thomas M. Dennis and Minnie Fitzhugh, her brother Thomas H. Dennis, her husband Milford Douglas Thomason, her daughter Carolyn Sue Taylor. She leaves behind two grandchildren and four great grandchildren, three sisters, and one neice. Arrangements have not been made. Interment will be in Hillcrest Cemetery. jan

    09/18/2000 05:01:01
    1. Re: [DC] Death in family
    2. Elizabeth Beth Lackey
    3. --WebTV-Mail-32354-3110 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Sorry to hear of your loss.. Beth Lackey --WebTV-Mail-32354-3110 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-3.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.120) by storefull-178.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtpin-101-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id EE86A179; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by smtpin-101-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B030127; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e8J2k1t01870; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:46:01 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:46:01 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Mon Sep 18 19:46:01 2000 Message-Id: <[email protected]> X-Sender: [email protected] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:01:01 -0400 Old-To: [email protected] From: j <[email protected]> Old-Cc: [email protected] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [DC] Death in family Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/13488 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] My aunt in Dover passed away today. Kay Dennis Thomason Dec. 28, 1918-Sept. 18, 2000 She was preceeded in death by parents Thomas M. Dennis and Minnie Fitzhugh, her brother Thomas H. Dennis, her husband Milford Douglas Thomason, her daughter Carolyn Sue Taylor. She leaves behind two grandchildren and four great grandchildren, three sisters, and one neice. Arrangements have not been made. Interment will be in Hillcrest Cemetery. jan ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? --WebTV-Mail-32354-3110--

    09/18/2000 04:15:47
    1. Re: [DC] Sunday Afternoon Rocking
    2. B C Thomas
    3. I have a story for you about pictures and how much they can mean. My fathers mother died when he was just 8 years old. She left behind 7 children one of whom died in two months after her. My grand father was killed in an accident less than 1 year later. My father could not remember his mothers face and we often talked about what she might have looked like. He said that he would pray at night that he could look at the face of his mother and know what she looked like. He had a sister who was blonde , fair and had gray eyes, the rest of them had dark hair and blue eyes and we always wondered if she looked like his Mother or if the rest of them did, he could not remember what his father looked like either.I have a sister named Kathy and she was like Aunt Ruth, Blonde hair, fine and straight, gray eyes. The other 3 of us have dark curly thick, hair and blue eyes. My father died in 1974 at the age of 50 and I thought then that he would get to see what his parents looked like after all this time. We had no family connections because his mothers father had disowned her when she married my grandfather, why I don"t know. Last year my dads sister, the last of them that is alive, called and asked me to come by. There on her dining room table was an old yellow picture of my grandmother that someone in the family had kept and had bothered to trace down my Aunt and bring it to her. As I picked it up I not only looked into the face of my grandmother but at the face of my sisters twin. How I wish that My father could have seen it. It would have meant so much to him. Can you imagine not being able to picture either of your parents faces? I called my sister and told her of the picture. I sent her a copy that week. She called me back when she got it. She said you know all these years I thought that I must have been adopted because I didn't look like anyone else in the family that I could remember. I laughed and said, Yes you did ,you just didn't know it. My dad was looking at the face of his mother everytime he looked at her and didn't know it. Doesn't God answer prays in a funny way sometimes. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "tharper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [DC] Sunday Afternoon Rocking > an, > How true and touching. Maybe they would appreciate this picture but in > my opinion he left it with his "true" family. You treasure it as no other > could. however I understand what you mean about it might be important to > someone somewhere. > A freind of mine bought un old house and in it were a small package of black > and white photos. For some unknown reason she gave them to me and I put > them away in an envelope in my hope chest. After 12 years my son brought > home a girlfreind and we started going through pictures of him as a child. > We came across this envelope and I was telling her the story of how I became > the owner of them > Imagine my shock when she asked me what I was doing with a picture of > HER grandfather. He lived in Darrington and the house that the pictures > came from was in a town 17 miles west of that. I call the woman who use to > own the house to see where the picture came from and she said only that > someone had left them there for her to find 20 years before. > This picture of Kylene's granfather meant so much to her as her > grandparents and her were very close and she had lost her grandfather only 2 > years before this. She asked to have it for her grandmother and to make a > long story short I meant her grandmother to give her this picture and the > rest of the package (which were all people she new) and we have become dear > freinds. > I will always be glad that I didn't toss those pictures and though they > were mine for a little while, they now are where they belong and I will > always feel that those pictures by a fluke of fate brought me some very dear > freinds. > Toni > -----Original Message----- > From: j <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, September 15, 2000 11:55 PM > Subject: [DC] Sunday Afternoon Rocking > > > >"Returning Roots" (from the Sunday Afternoon Rocking series) > > > >Afternoon All, > > > >I am guilty. I never intended to be guilty, or to have a piece of someone's > >roots that could indeed be returned, but I am guilty...and perhaps many of > >you are as well. It happened quite by accident. > > > >Many years ago, I had a beloved step-grandfather. I loved him for the care > >he took of my grandmother, the enjoyment he gave her last days, and I loved > >him for who he was by his own merits. Not long before he died, he came many > >miles to visit, and he brought with him an ancient picture of folks in old > >fashioned dress. In the photograph was his own mother as a young girl, and > >he brought the photograph, not because I had any ancestral ties to it, but > >because I had a talent and he wished to ask me to use it. He asked me to do > >an oil painting of that photograph for him. I fully intended to do that and > >wanted very much to please him...but the time for fulfilling the request > >never seemed to evolve, and not long afterwards, he died. It bothered me > >that I had never fulfilled his request, and there have been times when I > >have thought of going ahead with the project even though there seemed to no > >longer be a point for doing so. > > > >For over twenty years that photograph as been in my possession, meaningless > >to me except as something that was beloved by someone I cared a great deal > >for. Somewhere in the world, this man had children, although I am not at > >all sure who they are, or where they might be found. They were never > >particularly close to our family, and I am not even sure that they were > >particularly close to their father. I am sure they have no clue I have this > >picture (perhaps do not even know who I am), and they may not realize the > >picture even exists. However, I have no doubt but that if I just took a bit > >of time, and really applied myself to the chore, I could probably find > >them. And chances are, that among these children, or their children, is > >someone who would treasure and appreciate that photograph for reasons far > >greater and more meaningful than my own. > > > >I do not believe my story is either unusual or one that few can relate to. > >Indeed I believe that many of us have found ourselves the possessor of > >another's roots unintentionally. And I believe there comes a time when one > >must finally quit "putting off until tomorrow", and actually make the > >effort to return something more precious than money to those who can > >appreciate. This has been heavy on my mind for a good long while, and > >before the year is out, I hope discover the "rightful owner", to package > >that photograph up and mail it to a person who will be surprised and > >pleasured to receive an unexpected "gift" that was never mine to hold on to > >in the first place. With that "gift" I will send my apologies for waiting > >so long to return roots that were not my own. > > > >Yes, I believe my story is not so unusual and many of us find ourselves in > >such a position. But I think there is yet another story that is less > >unusual still, and that the most of us are guilty of. We also find > >ourselves the possessor of our own roots not shared with others that have > >the same right to those as ourselves. In most cases, it is not that we are > >selfish, or wish to keep what has descended to us "all to ourselves", but > >that we never really take the time to share. Perhaps it is a box of family > >photographs, perhaps it is a family document, a bundle of old letters. > >Perhaps it is a series of stories we received from an elder only because we > >were in the right place at the right time to hear these and our cousins > >were not. Perhaps there are physical keepsakes...a quilt, a piece of > >glassware, a basket, a piece of furniture...things we certainly will not > >let go of...but could easily make a photograph of and provide the story > >behind for another, that all of the family will know what exists and how it > >played a part in an ancestral story. > > > >Those are things we treasure, and we are so grateful to have these bits and > >pieces of our past, so relieved that somehow those things managed to wind > >up in our hands after traveling throughout the generations of a family. > >But, honestly, regardless of the legality of the issue...ethically, do > >those things belong to us any more than they belong to other descendents of > >a family? Do other cousins not have the same right to treasure those roots > >as ourselves? Sigh. And yes, I too am guilty. I have shared with many, but > >not with all. I have made copies of photographs and documents, recorded > >stories, and sent roots to many, often to cousins that I did not even know > >before the net...but oddly, for some reason, many of the cousins with > >actually greater blood ties and closer in relationship, have not received > >such a package from me. I didn't mean to slight anyone, and I truly have > >had it "in the back of my mind" to create such a package and share what I > >had. But I have not done so in every case. Once again, I think it is time > >for a "reality check" and a good look at my own mortality, what I hold that > >others may well treasure as much as myself and certainly have a right to as > >much as myself. It is time for me to realize that unless I do today what I > >can do, the other descendents of my lines may never have access to what I > >have. "Tomorrow" may never come, and putting off until tomorrow is not > >really an option if I truly am committed to what I write about and espouse > >so often. It is time for me to begin returning roots. > > > >just a thought, > >jan > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >(Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be > >shared...simply share as written without alterations...and in entirety. > >Thanks, jan) > > > >Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday > >Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per > >week will come across it, that being the column. To subscribe send email to > >[email protected] > > > >Comments about the content of these messages can be sent to > >[email protected] > > > >If you enjoy Sunday Afternoon Rocking, you may also enjoy the following > >newsletters: > > > >"These Thoughts": A newsletter (non-reply list) sends short, positive, > >inspirational messages to educators each Monday and Wednesday. To > >subscribe send e-mail to [email protected] > > > >"From the Heart". A newsletter (non-reply list) will begin in October > >sending one short positive message per weekday. Messages have been culled > >from the sharing of the folks at the "Bluffs", "Best Kept Secret in > >America". They are inspirational and traditional in nature. To subscribe > >send e-mail to [email protected] > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >_________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >What do you mean my grandparents didn't have any kids ??? > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" > as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ???? > >

    09/16/2000 04:24:38
    1. Re: [DC] Sunday Afternoon Rocking
    2. tharper
    3. an, How true and touching. Maybe they would appreciate this picture but in my opinion he left it with his "true" family. You treasure it as no other could. however I understand what you mean about it might be important to someone somewhere. A freind of mine bought un old house and in it were a small package of black and white photos. For some unknown reason she gave them to me and I put them away in an envelope in my hope chest. After 12 years my son brought home a girlfreind and we started going through pictures of him as a child. We came across this envelope and I was telling her the story of how I became the owner of them Imagine my shock when she asked me what I was doing with a picture of HER grandfather. He lived in Darrington and the house that the pictures came from was in a town 17 miles west of that. I call the woman who use to own the house to see where the picture came from and she said only that someone had left them there for her to find 20 years before. This picture of Kylene's granfather meant so much to her as her grandparents and her were very close and she had lost her grandfather only 2 years before this. She asked to have it for her grandmother and to make a long story short I meant her grandmother to give her this picture and the rest of the package (which were all people she new) and we have become dear freinds. I will always be glad that I didn't toss those pictures and though they were mine for a little while, they now are where they belong and I will always feel that those pictures by a fluke of fate brought me some very dear freinds. Toni -----Original Message----- From: j <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 15, 2000 11:55 PM Subject: [DC] Sunday Afternoon Rocking >"Returning Roots" (from the Sunday Afternoon Rocking series) > >Afternoon All, > >I am guilty. I never intended to be guilty, or to have a piece of someone's >roots that could indeed be returned, but I am guilty...and perhaps many of >you are as well. It happened quite by accident. > >Many years ago, I had a beloved step-grandfather. I loved him for the care >he took of my grandmother, the enjoyment he gave her last days, and I loved >him for who he was by his own merits. Not long before he died, he came many >miles to visit, and he brought with him an ancient picture of folks in old >fashioned dress. In the photograph was his own mother as a young girl, and >he brought the photograph, not because I had any ancestral ties to it, but >because I had a talent and he wished to ask me to use it. He asked me to do >an oil painting of that photograph for him. I fully intended to do that and >wanted very much to please him...but the time for fulfilling the request >never seemed to evolve, and not long afterwards, he died. It bothered me >that I had never fulfilled his request, and there have been times when I >have thought of going ahead with the project even though there seemed to no >longer be a point for doing so. > >For over twenty years that photograph as been in my possession, meaningless >to me except as something that was beloved by someone I cared a great deal >for. Somewhere in the world, this man had children, although I am not at >all sure who they are, or where they might be found. They were never >particularly close to our family, and I am not even sure that they were >particularly close to their father. I am sure they have no clue I have this >picture (perhaps do not even know who I am), and they may not realize the >picture even exists. However, I have no doubt but that if I just took a bit >of time, and really applied myself to the chore, I could probably find >them. And chances are, that among these children, or their children, is >someone who would treasure and appreciate that photograph for reasons far >greater and more meaningful than my own. > >I do not believe my story is either unusual or one that few can relate to. >Indeed I believe that many of us have found ourselves the possessor of >another's roots unintentionally. And I believe there comes a time when one >must finally quit "putting off until tomorrow", and actually make the >effort to return something more precious than money to those who can >appreciate. This has been heavy on my mind for a good long while, and >before the year is out, I hope discover the "rightful owner", to package >that photograph up and mail it to a person who will be surprised and >pleasured to receive an unexpected "gift" that was never mine to hold on to >in the first place. With that "gift" I will send my apologies for waiting >so long to return roots that were not my own. > >Yes, I believe my story is not so unusual and many of us find ourselves in >such a position. But I think there is yet another story that is less >unusual still, and that the most of us are guilty of. We also find >ourselves the possessor of our own roots not shared with others that have >the same right to those as ourselves. In most cases, it is not that we are >selfish, or wish to keep what has descended to us "all to ourselves", but >that we never really take the time to share. Perhaps it is a box of family >photographs, perhaps it is a family document, a bundle of old letters. >Perhaps it is a series of stories we received from an elder only because we >were in the right place at the right time to hear these and our cousins >were not. Perhaps there are physical keepsakes...a quilt, a piece of >glassware, a basket, a piece of furniture...things we certainly will not >let go of...but could easily make a photograph of and provide the story >behind for another, that all of the family will know what exists and how it >played a part in an ancestral story. > >Those are things we treasure, and we are so grateful to have these bits and >pieces of our past, so relieved that somehow those things managed to wind >up in our hands after traveling throughout the generations of a family. >But, honestly, regardless of the legality of the issue...ethically, do >those things belong to us any more than they belong to other descendents of >a family? Do other cousins not have the same right to treasure those roots >as ourselves? Sigh. And yes, I too am guilty. I have shared with many, but >not with all. I have made copies of photographs and documents, recorded >stories, and sent roots to many, often to cousins that I did not even know >before the net...but oddly, for some reason, many of the cousins with >actually greater blood ties and closer in relationship, have not received >such a package from me. I didn't mean to slight anyone, and I truly have >had it "in the back of my mind" to create such a package and share what I >had. But I have not done so in every case. Once again, I think it is time >for a "reality check" and a good look at my own mortality, what I hold that >others may well treasure as much as myself and certainly have a right to as >much as myself. It is time for me to realize that unless I do today what I >can do, the other descendents of my lines may never have access to what I >have. "Tomorrow" may never come, and putting off until tomorrow is not >really an option if I truly am committed to what I write about and espouse >so often. It is time for me to begin returning roots. > >just a thought, >jan > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >(Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be >shared...simply share as written without alterations...and in entirety. >Thanks, jan) > >Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday >Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per >week will come across it, that being the column. To subscribe send email to >[email protected] > >Comments about the content of these messages can be sent to >[email protected] > >If you enjoy Sunday Afternoon Rocking, you may also enjoy the following >newsletters: > >"These Thoughts": A newsletter (non-reply list) sends short, positive, >inspirational messages to educators each Monday and Wednesday. To >subscribe send e-mail to [email protected] > >"From the Heart". A newsletter (non-reply list) will begin in October >sending one short positive message per weekday. Messages have been culled >from the sharing of the folks at the "Bluffs", "Best Kept Secret in >America". They are inspirational and traditional in nature. To subscribe >send e-mail to [email protected] >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >_________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >What do you mean my grandparents didn't have any kids ???

    09/16/2000 10:08:09
    1. [DC] Sunday Afternoon Rocking
    2. j
    3. "Returning Roots" (from the Sunday Afternoon Rocking series) Afternoon All, I am guilty. I never intended to be guilty, or to have a piece of someone's roots that could indeed be returned, but I am guilty...and perhaps many of you are as well. It happened quite by accident. Many years ago, I had a beloved step-grandfather. I loved him for the care he took of my grandmother, the enjoyment he gave her last days, and I loved him for who he was by his own merits. Not long before he died, he came many miles to visit, and he brought with him an ancient picture of folks in old fashioned dress. In the photograph was his own mother as a young girl, and he brought the photograph, not because I had any ancestral ties to it, but because I had a talent and he wished to ask me to use it. He asked me to do an oil painting of that photograph for him. I fully intended to do that and wanted very much to please him...but the time for fulfilling the request never seemed to evolve, and not long afterwards, he died. It bothered me that I had never fulfilled his request, and there have been times when I have thought of going ahead with the project even though there seemed to no longer be a point for doing so. For over twenty years that photograph as been in my possession, meaningless to me except as something that was beloved by someone I cared a great deal for. Somewhere in the world, this man had children, although I am not at all sure who they are, or where they might be found. They were never particularly close to our family, and I am not even sure that they were particularly close to their father. I am sure they have no clue I have this picture (perhaps do not even know who I am), and they may not realize the picture even exists. However, I have no doubt but that if I just took a bit of time, and really applied myself to the chore, I could probably find them. And chances are, that among these children, or their children, is someone who would treasure and appreciate that photograph for reasons far greater and more meaningful than my own. I do not believe my story is either unusual or one that few can relate to. Indeed I believe that many of us have found ourselves the possessor of another's roots unintentionally. And I believe there comes a time when one must finally quit "putting off until tomorrow", and actually make the effort to return something more precious than money to those who can appreciate. This has been heavy on my mind for a good long while, and before the year is out, I hope discover the "rightful owner", to package that photograph up and mail it to a person who will be surprised and pleasured to receive an unexpected "gift" that was never mine to hold on to in the first place. With that "gift" I will send my apologies for waiting so long to return roots that were not my own. Yes, I believe my story is not so unusual and many of us find ourselves in such a position. But I think there is yet another story that is less unusual still, and that the most of us are guilty of. We also find ourselves the possessor of our own roots not shared with others that have the same right to those as ourselves. In most cases, it is not that we are selfish, or wish to keep what has descended to us "all to ourselves", but that we never really take the time to share. Perhaps it is a box of family photographs, perhaps it is a family document, a bundle of old letters. Perhaps it is a series of stories we received from an elder only because we were in the right place at the right time to hear these and our cousins were not. Perhaps there are physical keepsakes...a quilt, a piece of glassware, a basket, a piece of furniture...things we certainly will not let go of...but could easily make a photograph of and provide the story behind for another, that all of the family will know what exists and how it played a part in an ancestral story. Those are things we treasure, and we are so grateful to have these bits and pieces of our past, so relieved that somehow those things managed to wind up in our hands after traveling throughout the generations of a family. But, honestly, regardless of the legality of the issue...ethically, do those things belong to us any more than they belong to other descendents of a family? Do other cousins not have the same right to treasure those roots as ourselves? Sigh. And yes, I too am guilty. I have shared with many, but not with all. I have made copies of photographs and documents, recorded stories, and sent roots to many, often to cousins that I did not even know before the net...but oddly, for some reason, many of the cousins with actually greater blood ties and closer in relationship, have not received such a package from me. I didn't mean to slight anyone, and I truly have had it "in the back of my mind" to create such a package and share what I had. But I have not done so in every case. Once again, I think it is time for a "reality check" and a good look at my own mortality, what I hold that others may well treasure as much as myself and certainly have a right to as much as myself. It is time for me to realize that unless I do today what I can do, the other descendents of my lines may never have access to what I have. "Tomorrow" may never come, and putting off until tomorrow is not really an option if I truly am committed to what I write about and espouse so often. It is time for me to begin returning roots. just a thought, jan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be shared...simply share as written without alterations...and in entirety. Thanks, jan) Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per week will come across it, that being the column. To subscribe send email to [email protected] Comments about the content of these messages can be sent to [email protected] If you enjoy Sunday Afternoon Rocking, you may also enjoy the following newsletters: "These Thoughts": A newsletter (non-reply list) sends short, positive, inspirational messages to educators each Monday and Wednesday. To subscribe send e-mail to [email protected] "From the Heart". A newsletter (non-reply list) will begin in October sending one short positive message per weekday. Messages have been culled from the sharing of the folks at the "Bluffs", "Best Kept Secret in America". They are inspirational and traditional in nature. To subscribe send e-mail to [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________

    09/15/2000 06:09:48
    1. Re: [DC] Question about old names
    2. Sounds like his name is George William Howard Mabry, or however you choose to spell the last name. Just a thought . Jen'ee

    09/15/2000 12:41:40
    1. [DC] Question about old names
    2. Knox Martin
    3. I am working on a line containing the name MAYBRY. That is bad enough with Maybry, Mabrey, Mayberry, and everything else you can imagine, but my question has to do with a first name. The earliest Maybry I have found was named Gilliam Howard Maybry (1846-1921). That is what his tombstone says, although it is not an original stone. I thought that Gilliam might be Welsh for William. I found this fellow on the census of 1870, but he is listed as George. The dates of his birth, the name and date of birth of his wife, the location all match. His last name is spelled Mayberry (no surprise). On the 1880 census his name is back to William (this time Mabry). The dates and names of wife and children are correct. He has added a few kids, but the ones that were there in 1870 are still there in 1880. I know it sounds like two different folks, but I am PRETTY SURE they are the same. My question is this: Has anybody ever run across this name Gilliam? If so, could it be another name for George? I guess it is possible that he had a third name and was actually Gilliam (William) Howard George Maybry. I hope to turn up more info when I find out about wills, death certificates, ect. This line is in South Carolina, so this is a new state for me. Thanks for the help. Knox Martin

    09/15/2000 10:38:21