Folks, Almost forgot....(not really)....very proud of her....... I would like to take the opportunity to introduce you to my grand-daughter (so some of you can fill-in your gen charts.....the others......you can fall-off the 'face-off-the-face-of-the-earth' for all I care...).. She is: Izabell McKenzie Snow, b. 11-14-01 in Maricopa County, Arizona daughter of Ashley Danielle Snow (b. 1-19-82 , Ciudad Victoria, Mexico), adopted daughter of David L. Snow and Deborah Ann McKenzie (Henry County, TN b. 1-15-50, to Ralph McKenzie and Hazel Gladys Dortch). If you go to the Family TreeMaker Website, you'll find where she 'fits' in the history of Stewart, Houston, Humphreys, Henry and Benton Counties.....Look-up the David L. Snow site (along with Pierces, and whoever in N. Benton Co, and Henry). I've already posted it long ago. Most of you will find some of your ancestors in the Family Tree....... Add HER to your your charts......please... Dave
Hi, I am interested in any volumes containing any references to any of the Adams families of that area. My name is Matt Adams and I live in Maryland... Thanks a bunch! Matt -----Original Message----- From: GRIDDIP@aol.com [mailto:GRIDDIP@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 6:33 PM To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSTEWAR] Nina Finleys Books. Below are a numerical listing of the Houston County Library Books (Friends of the Library) that are available Prices are if picked up, if ordering by mail add $1.00 shipping and handling. Address is: Houston County Friends of the Library, P. O. Box 183 Erin, TN.,37061 Telephone 931-289-3858 This information was furnished me by the Houston County Library this week, hope it helps some or all of you who are interested. Volume 1,2,4,5,20,21,22, & 23 are $8.00 plus $1.00 S&H. all others are $5.00 plus $1.00 S&H. (This caused by increase in printing costs for new Volumes and reprint of some older volumes. > Vol. 1. Houston County Review and Erin Review 1878-1882 Newspaper > clippings. > Vol. 2. Houston County Review and Erin Review 1882-1887. > Vol. 3. The News and the Houston County News 1888-1890-1891, 1918-1923, > Business License - 1887-1899, Vol. 4. Road Orders of Houston County (1871-1899) also 12 maps of the area (1795-1938) > Vol. 5. Newspaper Clipping Collection from the attic of Mr. and Mrs. > James T. Brigham (Mr. Jim and Miss Sophia) Houston County Early 1900s. > Vol. 6. 1850 Census of Houston County TN..This is compiled from the > census of Southern Stewart Co. North Humphreys Co. and Western Dickson > Co. (This is area that made up Houston Co. when it was formed in 1871). > Vol. 7. 1860 Census of Houston Co... TN. (same area as 1850). > Vol. 8. 1870 Census of Houston Co. TN. (Same area as 1850 and 1860) > Vol. 9. 1880 Census of Houston County TN. > Vol. 10. 1900 Census of Houston County TN. Vol. 11.1880 Agricultural Census of Houston County.(Acres, Cattle, Chickens, sheep, fruit etc.) > Vol. 12. Houston Co. Marriages 1871-1896 (Index-male/Female Surname) > Vol. 13. Houston Co. Marriages 1897-1910 (Index -male/Femalesurname) Vol. 14. Houston County Tax Rolls (1873-1881, Value, District) Vol. 15. Houston County Tax Rolls (1882-1888, Value, District) Vol. 16. Houston County Tax Rolls. (1889-1895, Value, District) Vol. 17. Houston County Tax Rolls. (1896-1910, Value, District) > Vol. 18. Houston Co.. Wills and Inventory 1871-1881 (Noticed there are > some interesting Wills and inventory of Stewart Co. 1868-1870 at > beginning of book. Stewart Co. Names mentioned are Rauscher, Balentine, > Beacham, Clark, Nichols, Adkinson, Uffelman, Askew, Nichols, Rushing, > Knight, Wilson, Lindsey, Hendrix, Macon Moore, Norfleet, Griffa, Summers > and Bell). > Vol. 19. Houston Co. Wills and Inventory 1881-1910. Vol. 20. Guilds Speech in Erin in 1874 (Old Times in Tenn.) -exerts from Clarksville Papers. of articles about Houston County Area-including railroad building-establishment of Houston County,-sale of lots in Arlington and Erin in 1871 > Vol. 21. Goodspeed Histories of Houston County area (excerpts from the > Goodspeed Histories of Montgomery, Robertson, Humphreys, Stewart, > Dickson, Cheatham, and Houston Co. of Tennessee) Published 1886. > also List of signers of Stewart Co. Petition-1803 and List of Davidson > Co. North Carolina Taxpayers-1787. Vol.22. In The Beginning-Early History of Wells Creek and Guices Creek-pre 1870 Vol 23. In The Beginning-Early History of White Oak, Cane, and Hurricane Creeks pre 1870. Includes Deeds that are available from the beginning until 1870. This would be from the counties from which Houston Formed in 1871/72 some of the records from these counties were in bad shape, except Stewart County there were 200+ pages missing from the old records. These books were compiled by Nina Finley, and are about 60 pages, all profits go to "Friends of the Library" projects to benefit Houston County Library. There is another book available written by Francis Hinson, named MAGNOLIA, MS Hinson donated this to Friends of The Library. it is spiral bound and full size containing 110 pages. It sells for $15.00 at the Library or plus $1.00 S& H if ordering by mail. It included Maps, Stories, and pictures of the area before it was flooded by Kentucky Lake, (Some small part still out of the water) 82 families who lived in the 1930s in the White Oak/Magnolia area are identified on a map, before the flooding. Ira > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ??
Thank you for the Reply (Stubby is the daughters nic I am TJ but you can call me anything except don't call me late for dinner.Especailly if its free. TJ ----- Original Message ----- From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Dortches > Stubby, (don't mind if I call you that from your email address????) > > The DORTCH family is very consistant throughout history. Only 1 original > male has been documented as 'fathering' the whole line of Dortches in the > US. "Nutty" as they may have become in Western Tennessee (my editorial > comment, having married one of them........please forgive me.....I mean no > disrespect to the other branches of hte Dortch family who have gone on to > accomplish greater 'things' and move 'humanity' foorward). > > There is an 'ole Salty sailor' who has spent the greater part of his > yearning years in researching the Dortches......hopefully he is still > alive........BJ....You still out there. ???????? Anyway, contact him thru > the "Family Tree Maker CD's" (you'll find the Dortches on CD #1)..... > > If he doesn't respond, let me know and I'll provide you with his latest > research info....... > > Dave > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > At 05:00 PM 12/16/01 -0800, TJstubby wrote: > >Interesting Two Dortches were married to very prom. men from Montgomery > >County in the 1820's to 1860's Cave Johnson Senator and Gov. Willie Blount. > >of Ten. I am interested in Senator Cave Johnson's line if any one has any > >Info I would gladly exchange, also interested In Len Henly Sr. 1797 family > >spread from Humphreys County Tn. to Henderson Co. Tony----- Original > >Message ----- > >From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> > >To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:28 PM > >Subject: Re: Who killed Tom Evans? > > > > > >> Chris, > >> > >> No 'old wounds' here......they're fresh ....and bleeding......<vbg> > >> > >> Go here..... > >> > >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndigs/henry/cemetery/ > >> > >> Look at the 'Evans' Cemetery in the list........ > >> > >> LOOK at who is buried there (the other families....hint)........ > >> > >> Talk to Dan....Ira....... > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> PS: I've sent you instructions seperately on how to 'subscribe' to a > >> PRIVATE List where you can discuss this issue with folks who are more > >> 'mature'.....take it for what it's worth. The answers lie > >> there.........the Dortches play a part....but...so do others. These folks > >> were not Saints....thou they would like nothing better than to be > >> considered such....... > >> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> >David... > >> >I appreciate your concerns. I do not intend to open old wounds. I do > >> >consider myself one of the locals, for I have paternal and maternal > >> > >> >relatives who lived in the 23rd for ages prior to their removal. A > >cemetery > >> >bearing the Evans name exists there. I have gotten some information from > >the > >> >so-called locals, but most of it is anecdotal and in some regards > >factually > >> >flawed based on my research. Of course, I never knew Tom Evans, nor his > >son, > >> >Kermit, who was my grandfather. He too died at middle age. Yet, I suppose > >I > >> >have that same rigid ignorance that is prevalent in the entire clan. His > >> >persistence is what probably got Tom Evans killed. While I will not > >meddle > >> >in other folks' business, I do intend to further research this subject. > >> >Digging up skeletons is not the purpose. I simply think that the > >> >sociological powder keg that exploded on April 18, 1926 has a larger > >story > >> >to tell. I thank you for candidness and appreciate the information you > >have > >> >provided to this point. From your writings, it appears that you or your > >wife > >> >may be related to some of the principle characters. You have mentioned > >two > >> >names that I am unfamiliar with, or at least don't know where they tie > >into > >> >the puzzle. Ira and Hurley Dortch. I know the Dortches of the 23rd, but > >how > >> >does this Hurley fit in to the moonshine deal? Also, who might Ira be? > >> > > >> >Yes, I am interested in learning more through the website and would like > >to > >> >subscribe if it can provide valuable information. Please be aware that > >> >anything that you and I discuss whether via email, or one day in person, > >> >will be kept in the strictest confidence. If possible, I would like to > >meet > > >> >you and discuss this in person. > >> > > >> >Thank you again, > >> >Chris > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> My family Coat of Arms ties at the back ...... > >> is that normal ??? > >> > >> > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >My Family Tree has Root Rot !! > > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > >
Folks, What is wrong with you.......... I write you and educate you about what is being printed by the Associated Press in an article in todays newspapers about what YOUR ANCESTORS did to Blacks in HENRY, Stewart, Humphreys and surrounding Counties.... and......I get "TRASH" back....why.??????? I must be stupid...I must be the MOST IGNORANT person on the face of this earth.......... As I sit here...typing this message to you ..... and 'stuffing' a bottle into my 4 week old grand-daughters mouth.....I recall how my Mother-in-Law told me, with a straight-face, why I should NOT move her daughter, and my family. including our adopted MEXICAN daughter (whose child I now hold in my arms), back to Paris and Henry County BECAUSE NOBODY will ACCEPT her........... The 'Sins of the Parents Upon the Children'........ Come-on folks..... Dave -------------------------------------------- At 06:40 PM 12/16/01 -0600, you wrote: >Trend SMEX Content Filter has detected sensitive content. > >Place = DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com; ; ; DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >Sender = David L Snow >Subject = Re:Who did What ????? >Delivery Time = December 16, 2001 (Sunday) 18:40:42 >Policy = Word List2 >Action on this mail = Quarantine message > >Warning message from administrator: >NCH Corporation installed software to filter and quarantine messages with >words commonly considered unacceptable. Multiple meanings of words may >cause some acceptable emails to fail. Call 972-438-0855 with any questions. >
Below are a numerical listing of the Houston County Library Books (Friends of the Library) that are available Prices are if picked up, if ordering by mail add $1.00 shipping and handling. Address is: Houston County Friends of the Library, P. O. Box 183 Erin, TN.,37061 Telephone 931-289-3858 This information was furnished me by the Houston County Library this week, hope it helps some or all of you who are interested. Volume 1,2,4,5,20,21,22, & 23 are $8.00 plus $1.00 S&H. all others are $5.00 plus $1.00 S&H. (This caused by increase in printing costs for new Volumes and reprint of some older volumes. > Vol. 1. Houston County Review and Erin Review 1878-1882 Newspaper > clippings. > Vol. 2. Houston County Review and Erin Review 1882-1887. > Vol. 3. The News and the Houston County News 1888-1890-1891, 1918-1923, > Business License - 1887-1899, Vol. 4. Road Orders of Houston County (1871-1899) also 12 maps of the area (1795-1938) > Vol. 5. Newspaper Clipping Collection from the attic of Mr. and Mrs. > James T. Brigham (Mr. Jim and Miss Sophia) Houston County Early 1900s. > Vol. 6. 1850 Census of Houston County TN..This is compiled from the > census of Southern Stewart Co. North Humphreys Co. and Western Dickson > Co. (This is area that made up Houston Co. when it was formed in 1871). > Vol. 7. 1860 Census of Houston Co... TN. (same area as 1850). > Vol. 8. 1870 Census of Houston Co. TN. (Same area as 1850 and 1860) > Vol. 9. 1880 Census of Houston County TN. > Vol. 10. 1900 Census of Houston County TN. Vol. 11.1880 Agricultural Census of Houston County.(Acres, Cattle, Chickens, sheep, fruit etc.) > Vol. 12. Houston Co. Marriages 1871-1896 (Index-male/Female Surname) > Vol. 13. Houston Co. Marriages 1897-1910 (Index -male/Femalesurname) Vol. 14. Houston County Tax Rolls (1873-1881, Value, District) Vol. 15. Houston County Tax Rolls (1882-1888, Value, District) Vol. 16. Houston County Tax Rolls. (1889-1895, Value, District) Vol. 17. Houston County Tax Rolls. (1896-1910, Value, District) > Vol. 18. Houston Co.. Wills and Inventory 1871-1881 (Noticed there are > some interesting Wills and inventory of Stewart Co. 1868-1870 at > beginning of book. Stewart Co. Names mentioned are Rauscher, Balentine, > Beacham, Clark, Nichols, Adkinson, Uffelman, Askew, Nichols, Rushing, > Knight, Wilson, Lindsey, Hendrix, Macon Moore, Norfleet, Griffa, Summers > and Bell). > Vol. 19. Houston Co. Wills and Inventory 1881-1910. Vol. 20. Guilds Speech in Erin in 1874 (Old Times in Tenn.) -exerts from Clarksville Papers. of articles about Houston County Area-including railroad building-establishment of Houston County,-sale of lots in Arlington and Erin in 1871 > Vol. 21. Goodspeed Histories of Houston County area (excerpts from the > Goodspeed Histories of Montgomery, Robertson, Humphreys, Stewart, > Dickson, Cheatham, and Houston Co. of Tennessee) Published 1886. > also List of signers of Stewart Co. Petition-1803 and List of Davidson > Co. North Carolina Taxpayers-1787. Vol.22. In The Beginning-Early History of Wells Creek and Guices Creek-pre 1870 Vol 23. In The Beginning-Early History of White Oak, Cane, and Hurricane Creeks pre 1870. Includes Deeds that are available from the beginning until 1870. This would be from the counties from which Houston Formed in 1871/72 some of the records from these counties were in bad shape, except Stewart County there were 200+ pages missing from the old records. These books were compiled by Nina Finley, and are about 60 pages, all profits go to "Friends of the Library" projects to benefit Houston County Library. There is another book available written by Francis Hinson, named MAGNOLIA, MS Hinson donated this to Friends of The Library. it is spiral bound and full size containing 110 pages. It sells for $15.00 at the Library or plus $1.00 S& H if ordering by mail. It included Maps, Stories, and pictures of the area before it was flooded by Kentucky Lake, (Some small part still out of the water) 82 families who lived in the 1930s in the White Oak/Magnolia area are identified on a map, before the flooding. Ira > >
Ira can you please email me directly at redpepperdm@hotmail.com. I have tried the GRIDDIP addy twice, both upper and lower case and my emails are being returned. To everyone else, sorry you are being bothered by this post! Donna Yates Gorman (formerly of McKinnon Tn) >From: GRIDDIP@aol.com >Reply-To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TNSTEWAR] Nina Finleys Books. >Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:33:29 EST > > Below are a numerical listing of the Houston County Library Books >(Friends >of the Library) that are available Prices are if picked up, if ordering by >mail add $1.00 shipping and handling. Address is: > >Houston County Friends of the Library, >P. O. Box 183 >Erin, TN.,37061 >Telephone 931-289-3858 > >This information was furnished me by the Houston County Library this week, >hope it helps some or all of you who are interested. > >Volume 1,2,4,5,20,21,22, & 23 are $8.00 plus $1.00 S&H. all others are >$5.00 >plus $1.00 S&H. (This caused by increase in printing costs for new Volumes >and reprint of some older volumes. > > > Vol. 1. Houston County Review and Erin Review 1878-1882 Newspaper > > clippings. > > Vol. 2. Houston County Review and Erin Review 1882-1887. > > Vol. 3. The News and the Houston County News 1888-1890-1891, 1918-1923, > > Business License - 1887-1899, >Vol. 4. Road Orders of Houston County (1871-1899) also 12 maps of the area >(1795-1938) > > Vol. 5. Newspaper Clipping Collection from the attic of Mr. and Mrs. > > James T. Brigham (Mr. Jim and Miss Sophia) Houston County Early 1900s. > > Vol. 6. 1850 Census of Houston County TN..This is compiled from the > > census of Southern Stewart Co. North Humphreys Co. and Western Dickson > > Co. (This is area that made up Houston Co. when it was formed in 1871). > > Vol. 7. 1860 Census of Houston Co... TN. (same area as 1850). > > Vol. 8. 1870 Census of Houston Co. TN. (Same area as 1850 and 1860) > > Vol. 9. 1880 Census of Houston County TN. > > Vol. 10. 1900 Census of Houston County TN. >Vol. 11.1880 Agricultural Census of Houston County.(Acres, Cattle, >Chickens, >sheep, fruit etc.) > > Vol. 12. Houston Co. Marriages 1871-1896 (Index-male/Female Surname) > > Vol. 13. Houston Co. Marriages 1897-1910 (Index -male/Femalesurname) >Vol. 14. Houston County Tax Rolls (1873-1881, Value, District) > Vol. 15. Houston County Tax Rolls (1882-1888, Value, District) >Vol. 16. Houston County Tax Rolls. (1889-1895, Value, District) >Vol. 17. Houston County Tax Rolls. (1896-1910, Value, District) > > Vol. 18. Houston Co.. Wills and Inventory 1871-1881 (Noticed there are > > some interesting Wills and inventory of Stewart Co. 1868-1870 at > > beginning of book. Stewart Co. Names mentioned are Rauscher, Balentine, > > Beacham, Clark, Nichols, Adkinson, Uffelman, Askew, Nichols, Rushing, > > Knight, Wilson, Lindsey, Hendrix, Macon Moore, Norfleet, Griffa, Summers > > and Bell). > > Vol. 19. Houston Co. Wills and Inventory 1881-1910. >Vol. 20. Guilds Speech in Erin in 1874 (Old Times in Tenn.) -exerts from >Clarksville Papers. of articles about Houston County Area-including >railroad >building-establishment of Houston County,-sale of lots in Arlington and >Erin >in 1871 > > Vol. 21. Goodspeed Histories of Houston County area (excerpts from the > > Goodspeed Histories of Montgomery, Robertson, Humphreys, Stewart, > > Dickson, Cheatham, and Houston Co. of Tennessee) Published 1886. > > also List of signers of Stewart Co. Petition-1803 and List of Davidson > > Co. North Carolina Taxpayers-1787. >Vol.22. In The Beginning-Early History of Wells Creek and Guices Creek-pre >1870 >Vol 23. In The Beginning-Early History of White Oak, Cane, and Hurricane >Creeks pre 1870. Includes Deeds that are available from the beginning until >1870. This would be from the counties from which Houston Formed in 1871/72 >some of the records from these counties were in bad shape, except Stewart >County there were 200+ pages missing from the old records. > >These books were compiled by Nina Finley, and are about 60 pages, all >profits >go to "Friends of the Library" projects to benefit Houston County Library. > >There is another book available written by Francis Hinson, named MAGNOLIA, >MS >Hinson donated this to Friends of The Library. it is spiral bound and full >size containing 110 pages. It sells for $15.00 at the Library or plus $1.00 >S& >H if ordering by mail. It included Maps, Stories, and pictures of the area >before it was flooded by Kentucky Lake, (Some small part still out of the >water) 82 families who lived in the 1930s in the White Oak/Magnolia area >are >identified on a map, before the flooding. > >Ira > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Now where did my ancestors go ?? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Stubby, (don't mind if I call you that from your email address????) The DORTCH family is very consistant throughout history. Only 1 original male has been documented as 'fathering' the whole line of Dortches in the US. "Nutty" as they may have become in Western Tennessee (my editorial comment, having married one of them........please forgive me.....I mean no disrespect to the other branches of hte Dortch family who have gone on to accomplish greater 'things' and move 'humanity' foorward). There is an 'ole Salty sailor' who has spent the greater part of his yearning years in researching the Dortches......hopefully he is still alive........BJ....You still out there. ???????? Anyway, contact him thru the "Family Tree Maker CD's" (you'll find the Dortches on CD #1)..... If he doesn't respond, let me know and I'll provide you with his latest research info....... Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- At 05:00 PM 12/16/01 -0800, TJstubby wrote: >Interesting Two Dortches were married to very prom. men from Montgomery >County in the 1820's to 1860's Cave Johnson Senator and Gov. Willie Blount. >of Ten. I am interested in Senator Cave Johnson's line if any one has any >Info I would gladly exchange, also interested In Len Henly Sr. 1797 family >spread from Humphreys County Tn. to Henderson Co. Tony----- Original >Message ----- >From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> >To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:28 PM >Subject: Re: Who killed Tom Evans? > > >> Chris, >> >> No 'old wounds' here......they're fresh ....and bleeding......<vbg> >> >> Go here..... >> >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndigs/henry/cemetery/ >> >> Look at the 'Evans' Cemetery in the list........ >> >> LOOK at who is buried there (the other families....hint)........ >> >> Talk to Dan....Ira....... >> >> Dave >> >> PS: I've sent you instructions seperately on how to 'subscribe' to a >> PRIVATE List where you can discuss this issue with folks who are more >> 'mature'.....take it for what it's worth. The answers lie >> there.........the Dortches play a part....but...so do others. These folks >> were not Saints....thou they would like nothing better than to be >> considered such....... >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >David... >> >I appreciate your concerns. I do not intend to open old wounds. I do >> >consider myself one of the locals, for I have paternal and maternal >> >> >relatives who lived in the 23rd for ages prior to their removal. A >cemetery >> >bearing the Evans name exists there. I have gotten some information from >the >> >so-called locals, but most of it is anecdotal and in some regards >factually >> >flawed based on my research. Of course, I never knew Tom Evans, nor his >son, >> >Kermit, who was my grandfather. He too died at middle age. Yet, I suppose >I >> >have that same rigid ignorance that is prevalent in the entire clan. His >> >persistence is what probably got Tom Evans killed. While I will not >meddle >> >in other folks' business, I do intend to further research this subject. >> >Digging up skeletons is not the purpose. I simply think that the >> >sociological powder keg that exploded on April 18, 1926 has a larger >story >> >to tell. I thank you for candidness and appreciate the information you >have >> >provided to this point. From your writings, it appears that you or your >wife >> >may be related to some of the principle characters. You have mentioned >two >> >names that I am unfamiliar with, or at least don't know where they tie >into >> >the puzzle. Ira and Hurley Dortch. I know the Dortches of the 23rd, but >how >> >does this Hurley fit in to the moonshine deal? Also, who might Ira be? >> > >> >Yes, I am interested in learning more through the website and would like >to >> >subscribe if it can provide valuable information. Please be aware that >> >anything that you and I discuss whether via email, or one day in person, >> >will be kept in the strictest confidence. If possible, I would like to >meet >> >you and discuss this in person. >> > >> >Thank you again, >> >Chris >> > >> >> >> ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> My family Coat of Arms ties at the back ...... >> is that normal ??? >> >> > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My Family Tree has Root Rot !! >
Chris, I understand your desires for Tom and the events surrounding his murder...and will help you here..... However.....let me take a few steps deeper....where you may not want to go....EVER ....to set the dynamics and nature of the people who shot your ancestor......your choice....been here..done this.....Get some Balls....... The Associated Press today published a story on 'Black Lynchings' and 'Land Grabs' by WHITES from the 'upstart niggers' who were progressing 'to fast' for their local communnities post Civil War. Unbeknownst to most 'White Folks", the Chicago Tribune has been compiling since 1880, a list of 'nigger' lynchings, per County, till the 1960's. Guess what........??????? Do you know, BENTON COUNTY HAS NEVER HAD A BLACK LYNCHING.....NADA...ZERO....NEVER. WHY???? (Chris, this fact is important to your search). Nor Houston (but IT is a NEW county, ca. 1870). Stewart, HENRY, Humphreys & Perry have ALL LYNCHED NIGGERS between 1880 and 1930....not once... but UPTO 5 TIMES during the period...(Read the AP story for your answers.........Talk to folks about 'The BLACK BOTTOMS' in Paris.........you will begin to understand.the 'NATURE' of these folks......I come from a different place and time.....don't understand them.....they 'marry their own'....happened and can under Tennessee Law in the last few years........(email me "privately" and I tell you who and when) Do You have any Idea of from where the KKK came up with the Idea of the Burning Cross........and what It Means ????? Look to the Revolutionary War Scots and the 'Battle of 'Widow Moors Creek Bridge' for the answer......... You're a JOURNALIST.........search the truth....... Dave
Interesting Two Dortches were married to very prom. men from Montgomery County in the 1820's to 1860's Cave Johnson Senator and Gov. Willie Blount. of Ten. I am interested in Senator Cave Johnson's line if any one has any Info I would gladly exchange, also interested In Len Henly Sr. 1797 family spread from Humphreys County Tn. to Henderson Co. Tony----- Original Message ----- From: David L Snow <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Who killed Tom Evans? > Chris, > > No 'old wounds' here......they're fresh ....and bleeding......<vbg> > > Go here..... > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndigs/henry/cemetery/ > > Look at the 'Evans' Cemetery in the list........ > > LOOK at who is buried there (the other families....hint)........ > > Talk to Dan....Ira....... > > Dave > > PS: I've sent you instructions seperately on how to 'subscribe' to a > PRIVATE List where you can discuss this issue with folks who are more > 'mature'.....take it for what it's worth. The answers lie > there.........the Dortches play a part....but...so do others. These folks > were not Saints....thou they would like nothing better than to be > considered such....... > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > >David... > >I appreciate your concerns. I do not intend to open old wounds. I do > >consider myself one of the locals, for I have paternal and maternal > > >relatives who lived in the 23rd for ages prior to their removal. A cemetery > >bearing the Evans name exists there. I have gotten some information from the > >so-called locals, but most of it is anecdotal and in some regards factually > >flawed based on my research. Of course, I never knew Tom Evans, nor his son, > >Kermit, who was my grandfather. He too died at middle age. Yet, I suppose I > >have that same rigid ignorance that is prevalent in the entire clan. His > >persistence is what probably got Tom Evans killed. While I will not meddle > >in other folks' business, I do intend to further research this subject. > >Digging up skeletons is not the purpose. I simply think that the > >sociological powder keg that exploded on April 18, 1926 has a larger story > >to tell. I thank you for candidness and appreciate the information you have > >provided to this point. From your writings, it appears that you or your wife > >may be related to some of the principle characters. You have mentioned two > >names that I am unfamiliar with, or at least don't know where they tie into > >the puzzle. Ira and Hurley Dortch. I know the Dortches of the 23rd, but how > >does this Hurley fit in to the moonshine deal? Also, who might Ira be? > > > >Yes, I am interested in learning more through the website and would like to > >subscribe if it can provide valuable information. Please be aware that > >anything that you and I discuss whether via email, or one day in person, > >will be kept in the strictest confidence. If possible, I would like to meet > >you and discuss this in person. > > > >Thank you again, > >Chris > > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > My family Coat of Arms ties at the back ...... > is that normal ??? > >
Chris, No 'old wounds' here......they're fresh ....and bleeding......<vbg> Go here..... http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndigs/henry/cemetery/ Look at the 'Evans' Cemetery in the list........ LOOK at who is buried there (the other families....hint)........ Talk to Dan....Ira....... Dave PS: I've sent you instructions seperately on how to 'subscribe' to a PRIVATE List where you can discuss this issue with folks who are more 'mature'.....take it for what it's worth. The answers lie there.........the Dortches play a part....but...so do others. These folks were not Saints....thou they would like nothing better than to be considered such....... ------------------------------------------------------------- >David... >I appreciate your concerns. I do not intend to open old wounds. I do >consider myself one of the locals, for I have paternal and maternal >relatives who lived in the 23rd for ages prior to their removal. A cemetery >bearing the Evans name exists there. I have gotten some information from the >so-called locals, but most of it is anecdotal and in some regards factually >flawed based on my research. Of course, I never knew Tom Evans, nor his son, >Kermit, who was my grandfather. He too died at middle age. Yet, I suppose I >have that same rigid ignorance that is prevalent in the entire clan. His >persistence is what probably got Tom Evans killed. While I will not meddle >in other folks' business, I do intend to further research this subject. >Digging up skeletons is not the purpose. I simply think that the >sociological powder keg that exploded on April 18, 1926 has a larger story >to tell. I thank you for candidness and appreciate the information you have >provided to this point. From your writings, it appears that you or your wife >may be related to some of the principle characters. You have mentioned two >names that I am unfamiliar with, or at least don't know where they tie into >the puzzle. Ira and Hurley Dortch. I know the Dortches of the 23rd, but how >does this Hurley fit in to the moonshine deal? Also, who might Ira be? > >Yes, I am interested in learning more through the website and would like to >subscribe if it can provide valuable information. Please be aware that >anything that you and I discuss whether via email, or one day in person, >will be kept in the strictest confidence. If possible, I would like to meet >you and discuss this in person. > >Thank you again, >Chris >
Not really, I know Gene very well and of course Joe Ray but our ancestors were brothers some 6 or 7 generations back. I have them on my Christopher tree and we claim to be cousins but from a distance. What is your interest. Wil
May I ask if you are related to the late Joe Ray Christopher or to Gene Christopher? Donna Yates Gorman >From: "W. A. Christopher" <wchristo@mail.win.org> >Reply-To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >To: DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Re: Who killed Tom Evans? >Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:53:13 -0600 > >You may want to contact Dan Martin at dlmartin2@earthlink.net . His is, I >think related to the Martins' of Old 23rd. Dan is the list owner of the >Henry Co List. >Wil > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: >They Hide & I Seek !! > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Janie, I know QWEST is changing -over to MSN (Microsoft ---- God forbid, I have the same problem) But........please 'unsubscribe your old QWEST address, and 'subscribe' your new MSN address so that I stop getting these stupid messages from the QWEST server. Thanks, Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ At 12:04 AM 12/16/01 -0700, you wrote: >The email address for janieintucson@qwest.net has changed. Please send all >future correspondence to janieintucson@msn.com. >
Chris, I'm not sure sure you want to 'go here'.........at least not with me..... This is 'personal' (and painful).....I'll help where I can. I don't live in the area....only related by marriage to the '23rd' and the folks who lived there. Temper what I have to say.......the facts are true (to the best of my knowledge).....'trash' my editorial comments (I'll try very hard to keep them to a minimum and 'focused')......but....forgive me my sins if I stray. Agreed ????? This is what I have to say to you......... a. I have been to the 'Reunion' .....but not during the last few years. b. I consider Dan Martin a personal friend, though I have never seen his face or shook his hand, but.....he knows more about Tom Evans and the events surrounding his death than anyone I know (except maybe Ira). c. You will NOT get any HELP in this matter from the 'locals'....they will HIDE everything (not being able to obtain a transcript of the trial is one indication of where you are going). d. You are trying to get 'damaging' information about people who have campaigned for and gotten elected US Senators from Tennessee, particulary Henry County (and this extends to Illinois, where my sister is engaged to the Attorney General). Your going nowhere here....... e. These folks have spent a 'LIFETIME' trying to 'ERASE' their families past....they DON"T WANT YOU HERE....just like they have abondoned the graveyards where their families are buried in N. Benton County......they don't want YOU REMINDING THEM of their heritage. They have spent their lives trying to cover it up. f. So.......Let's have some fun......there's another LIST I setup a long time ago at Rootsweb.com with this one....let me know, and I'll give you subscription instructions so that we can discuss this 'issue' PRIVATELY. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------- >Why? Why after 75 years does no one want to discuss it? >I met Dan Martin last summer at the Mt. Zion reunion. Were you there? How are you tied >to the 23rd? Are you a resident of Henry County? > >I am very interested in talking to anyone who might have firsthand >information about the murder and/or the events leading up to it. How broad >was the community conflict that revolved around moonshine? Who would know? > >Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the True Detective magazine that >carried an article about this event? > >Thank you so much for the information to this point. I live in Kentucky >where I publish a newspaper, so I have very little time to get back to Paris >or Big Sandy to continue this research. Anything I can do via the Internet >is certainly convenient. > >Thanks again, >Chris Evans >
Thanks Dave. Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 12:20 AM Subject: Re: Who killed Tom Evans? TO: Dave > Hi Wanda, > > The book covers the folks who settled in the area and were displaced when > the TVA 'bought them out' and flooded the northern tip of Benton County to > form Kentucky Lake, circa the early 1940's. Perry's book however, does > cover the geneology of the folks from the beginnning of Henry County, to > some extent, in the area of the 1820's or there abouts. > > After the Revolutionary War, Scots, such as the Campbells, left N. Carolina > and came to Stewart County (across the river from Henry County), settled > and eventually 'jumped' the the River in 1819 to settle Henry and Benton > County areas. > > Jan (The Rocker......seems she can't get out of her Chair) can give you a > pretty good history of the 'time'. Talk to her. > > Dave > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > --- > > At 02:34 PM 12/15/01 -0600, you wrote: > >Dave, you mentioned 'Perry's' book about the 'Old 23rd District. What time > >period would the book cover? I had Campbell family in Henry Co. in the > >1840s and wondered if they may have been mentioned in the book in any way? > >Thanks, Wanda > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> > >To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 1:37 PM > >Subject: Re: Who killed Tom Evans? > > > > > >> Thanks for the reply Dan...... > >> ----------------- > >> Chris, > >> > >> Hope Dan's info is helpful..... > >> > >> I would suggest you get a copy of Perry's book about the 'Old 23rd > >> District' (if you don't already have one). You can still buy it locally > >in > >> Paris from his descendants if you don't. Not much on 'Moonshine Wars', > >but > >> good pictures and geneology of those who lived in the area. Suggest you > >> also attend the annual 'gathering' of the 'Old 23rd District' members > >> around July 4th at the old Church to get personnel info from folks who > >used > >> to live in the that area and participated in the 'Wars'. > >> > >> Please excuse me if you already know some of the information, for I don't > >> how much you have researched this period or the area............ > >> > >> Alot of folks and 'noteable' families from the 'Old 23rd' (part of Henry > >> County at the northern tip of Benton County) were involved in illegal > >> Moonshine production. Though they don't want it discussed publically, > >they > >> relate their stories about this period amongst themselves and their > >dislike > >> for the 'Revenuoors'. > >> > >> Prior discussions, I have had with some of the TVA authorities, have > >> indicated that though there was not a 'real reason' for the TVA to > >relocate > >> the families of the 'Old 23rd' at the time of the flooding of Kentucky > >> Lake, the TVA did it in order to 'remove' this section of the local > >society > >> from the area, as they were deemed 'undesireable' to the rest of the > >> population in Benton and Henry Counties. Don't know.....only repeating > >> what I have been told by some the local residents of Big Sandy and the TVA > >> folks. > >> > >> As you have been informed by Dan, this 'topic' is not open to discussion > >> in the local population. Perry was warned NOT to discuss it in his book > >on > >> the area. Suggest you handle your inquires with 'velvet gloves'. You can > >> still get the transcripts of the Evans' case at the Henry County > >> Courthouse........ > >> > >> Be careful here......but,....Wish you well in this endeavor. > >> > >> Let us know how we might help, and please stay on List with your progress. > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> PS: Not only a 'good' book, but one 'Hell of a Movie'...... > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >-- > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> At 01:26 AM 12/15/01 -0500, Dan & Bobbie Martin wrote: > >> >Hi Wil & Dave: > >> > > >> >That is an old email address. I use DanMartin@xc.org for all my > >> >genealogy work. > >> > > >> >My Dad remembers the event in question. Cloys' father, George Martin, > >> >was my grandfather's brother. Cloys and his dad had a still, and the > >> > > >> >community, lacking proper law enforcement, took things into their own > >> >hands. Some of them came up and broke up the still. Cloys evidently > >> >shot Tom Evans over this incident. Cloys served about a year in prison > >> >for the murder. My Dad said that George made really good whisky. He > >> >said that George didn't drink himself since he was a member of the > >> >Church of Christ, but gave a lot of money from the sale of the whisky to > >> >the church. My Dad is loosing his memory, but I will ask him if he > >> >remembers any more details about the incident. I know it is still a > >> >sensitive matter with Cloys' family. Larry Perry was warned not to put > >> >anything in his book on the Old 23rd about it. > >> > > >> >Tom Evans was the first cousin once removed of Cloys' wife, Clara Evans > >> >Martin. His full name was Thomas Jefferson Evans, b. 1884, Henry Co., > >> >TN, d. 18 Apr 1926, Henry Co., TN, m. 28 Jun 1908 to Claudia Herndon, b. > >> >1885, d. 1969. > >> > > >> >The following is from Charles D. Robbins book: > >> > > >> >"And of course, there was the bootleg war which made headlines even in > >> >the large city > >> >newspapers. A man named Homer Wells, who was a native of Paris, but was > >> >head of the L. & N. > >> >Railroad detectives came to Paris to head the investigation, and he > >> >later wrote a story about it that > >> >appeared in True Detective magazine. > >> > > >> >"This had been a case where numerous stills were operating out in the > >> >woods and the law > >> >enforcement officials couldn't find them, or more likely they were not > >> >trying to find them. > >> >"There were men living in the area who were against the making of > >> >bootleg whiskey, so they took > >> >the law into their own hands and were breaking up the stills. After a > >> >couple of years of simmering, the > >> >conflict broke into the open when Tom Evans, one of the 'Vigilantes' was > >> >shot and killed." > >> > > >> >[Source: "Old 23rd District," by Charles D. Robbins, Paris, TN 1985, p. > >85] > >> > > >> >Dan Martin > >> >---------------- > >> > > >> >W. A. Christopher wrote: > >> > > >> >>You may want to contact Dan Martin at dlmartin2@earthlink.net . His is, > >I > >> >>think related to the Martins' of Old 23rd. Dan is the list owner of the > >> >>Henry Co List. > >> >>Wil > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> >>GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: > >> >>They Hide & I Seek !! > >> >> > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Have I, therefore, become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Gal. > >4:16 > >> >Jesus said: "I am The Way, The Truth And The Life, and nobody comes to > >the > >> Father but by Me." John: 14:6 > >> >Christian Exchange International: http://www.ceiinc.org > >> >Balanced Life Concepts: http://www.ceiinc.org/blc/blc.html > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> >My Family Tree has Root Rot !! > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >> My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" > >> as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ???? > >> > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! > > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > My family Coat of Arms ties at the back ...... > is that normal ??? >
For those who have an interest......... ----------------------------------------------------- >Thank you, Dave, for the information. I have been researching this subject >for about a year and a half. I have only scraped the tip of the iceberg. >Yes, I have Larry Perry's book. In fact, Larry is my uncle by marriage. He >married Tom Evans' granddaughter, Velva. She and my father, Terry Evans, are >brother and sister. I have been to the 23rd reunion the past two years, but >I have maintained a low profile to this point. I do understand that this >remains a tender subject in some circles. Why? Why after 75 years does no >one want to discuss it? Indeed, it is this mysterious silence that has >intrigued me to look deeper. I have searched for the trial transcript in the >Henry County Courthouse; however, it has been misplaced or lost during a >move from the courthouse to an annex. I have spent hours looking for it. The >best resource I have found is the Parisian newspaper. The Paris P-I was >being published at the time of the murder, but a fire claimed many old >copies, including the years of 1926 and 1927. I do have a family heirloom, a >copy of the Paris P-I that came out the week after the murder. I met Dan >Martin last summer at the Mt. Zion reunion. Were you there? How are you tied >to the 23rd? Are you a resident of Henry County? > >I am very interested in talking to anyone who might have firsthand >information about the murder and/or the events leading up to it. How broad >was the community conflict that revolved around moonshine? Who would know? > >Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the True Detective magazine that >carried an article about this event? > >Thank you so much for the information to this point. I live in Kentucky >where I publish a newspaper, so I have very little time to get back to Paris >or Big Sandy to continue this research. Anything I can do via the Internet >is certainly convenient. > >Thanks again, >Chris Evans >
Hi Wanda, The book covers the folks who settled in the area and were displaced when the TVA 'bought them out' and flooded the northern tip of Benton County to form Kentucky Lake, circa the early 1940's. Perry's book however, does cover the geneology of the folks from the beginnning of Henry County, to some extent, in the area of the 1820's or there abouts. After the Revolutionary War, Scots, such as the Campbells, left N. Carolina and came to Stewart County (across the river from Henry County), settled and eventually 'jumped' the the River in 1819 to settle Henry and Benton County areas. Jan (The Rocker......seems she can't get out of her Chair) can give you a pretty good history of the 'time'. Talk to her. Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- At 02:34 PM 12/15/01 -0600, you wrote: >Dave, you mentioned 'Perry's' book about the 'Old 23rd District. What time >period would the book cover? I had Campbell family in Henry Co. in the >1840s and wondered if they may have been mentioned in the book in any way? >Thanks, Wanda >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> >To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 1:37 PM >Subject: Re: Who killed Tom Evans? > > >> Thanks for the reply Dan...... >> ----------------- >> Chris, >> >> Hope Dan's info is helpful..... >> >> I would suggest you get a copy of Perry's book about the 'Old 23rd >> District' (if you don't already have one). You can still buy it locally >in >> Paris from his descendants if you don't. Not much on 'Moonshine Wars', >but >> good pictures and geneology of those who lived in the area. Suggest you >> also attend the annual 'gathering' of the 'Old 23rd District' members >> around July 4th at the old Church to get personnel info from folks who >used >> to live in the that area and participated in the 'Wars'. >> >> Please excuse me if you already know some of the information, for I don't >> how much you have researched this period or the area............ >> >> Alot of folks and 'noteable' families from the 'Old 23rd' (part of Henry >> County at the northern tip of Benton County) were involved in illegal >> Moonshine production. Though they don't want it discussed publically, >they >> relate their stories about this period amongst themselves and their >dislike >> for the 'Revenuoors'. >> >> Prior discussions, I have had with some of the TVA authorities, have >> indicated that though there was not a 'real reason' for the TVA to >relocate >> the families of the 'Old 23rd' at the time of the flooding of Kentucky >> Lake, the TVA did it in order to 'remove' this section of the local >society >> from the area, as they were deemed 'undesireable' to the rest of the >> population in Benton and Henry Counties. Don't know.....only repeating >> what I have been told by some the local residents of Big Sandy and the TVA >> folks. >> >> As you have been informed by Dan, this 'topic' is not open to discussion >> in the local population. Perry was warned NOT to discuss it in his book >on >> the area. Suggest you handle your inquires with 'velvet gloves'. You can >> still get the transcripts of the Evans' case at the Henry County >> Courthouse........ >> >> Be careful here......but,....Wish you well in this endeavor. >> >> Let us know how we might help, and please stay on List with your progress. >> >> Dave >> >> PS: Not only a 'good' book, but one 'Hell of a Movie'...... >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> At 01:26 AM 12/15/01 -0500, Dan & Bobbie Martin wrote: >> >Hi Wil & Dave: >> > >> >That is an old email address. I use DanMartin@xc.org for all my >> >genealogy work. >> > >> >My Dad remembers the event in question. Cloys' father, George Martin, >> >was my grandfather's brother. Cloys and his dad had a still, and the >> >> >community, lacking proper law enforcement, took things into their own >> >hands. Some of them came up and broke up the still. Cloys evidently >> >shot Tom Evans over this incident. Cloys served about a year in prison >> >for the murder. My Dad said that George made really good whisky. He >> >said that George didn't drink himself since he was a member of the >> >Church of Christ, but gave a lot of money from the sale of the whisky to >> >the church. My Dad is loosing his memory, but I will ask him if he >> >remembers any more details about the incident. I know it is still a >> >sensitive matter with Cloys' family. Larry Perry was warned not to put >> >anything in his book on the Old 23rd about it. >> > >> >Tom Evans was the first cousin once removed of Cloys' wife, Clara Evans >> >Martin. His full name was Thomas Jefferson Evans, b. 1884, Henry Co., >> >TN, d. 18 Apr 1926, Henry Co., TN, m. 28 Jun 1908 to Claudia Herndon, b. >> >1885, d. 1969. >> > >> >The following is from Charles D. Robbins book: >> > >> >"And of course, there was the bootleg war which made headlines even in >> >the large city >> >newspapers. A man named Homer Wells, who was a native of Paris, but was >> >head of the L. & N. >> >Railroad detectives came to Paris to head the investigation, and he >> >later wrote a story about it that >> >appeared in True Detective magazine. >> > >> >"This had been a case where numerous stills were operating out in the >> >woods and the law >> >enforcement officials couldn't find them, or more likely they were not >> >trying to find them. >> >"There were men living in the area who were against the making of >> >bootleg whiskey, so they took >> >the law into their own hands and were breaking up the stills. After a >> >couple of years of simmering, the >> >conflict broke into the open when Tom Evans, one of the 'Vigilantes' was >> >shot and killed." >> > >> >[Source: "Old 23rd District," by Charles D. Robbins, Paris, TN 1985, p. >85] >> > >> >Dan Martin >> >---------------- >> > >> >W. A. Christopher wrote: >> > >> >>You may want to contact Dan Martin at dlmartin2@earthlink.net . His is, >I >> >>think related to the Martins' of Old 23rd. Dan is the list owner of the >> >>Henry Co List. >> >>Wil >> >> >> >> >> >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> >>GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: >> >>They Hide & I Seek !! >> >> >> > >> >-- >> >Have I, therefore, become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Gal. >4:16 >> >Jesus said: "I am The Way, The Truth And The Life, and nobody comes to >the >> Father but by Me." John: 14:6 >> >Christian Exchange International: http://www.ceiinc.org >> >Balanced Life Concepts: http://www.ceiinc.org/blc/blc.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> >My Family Tree has Root Rot !! >> > >> >> >> ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >> My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" >> as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ???? >> > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== >My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! >
on 12/15/01 3:10 PM, David L Snow at dlsnow1@qwest.net wrote: > Chris, > > Forgot........ > > Have a website map of who lived where in the 'old 23rd', but have forgotten > to which website I uploaded it ( it has been a long time since I have > researched this area). However, I do have a graphic file of the map that I > could send you, but it is very large (over 1.2 meg). Let me know if you > can handle that. > > Dave > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > My family tree must have been used for Firewood !!! > Dave...i'm interested in your map of the 'old 23rd'... may i have a copy... i don't think i'll have any trouble with 1.2 megs thanks frankleeeee
Dave, you mentioned 'Perry's' book about the 'Old 23rd District. What time period would the book cover? I had Campbell family in Henry Co. in the 1840s and wondered if they may have been mentioned in the book in any way? Thanks, Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L Snow" <dlsnow1@qwest.net> To: <DanvilleCrossing-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Who killed Tom Evans? > Thanks for the reply Dan...... > ----------------- > Chris, > > Hope Dan's info is helpful..... > > I would suggest you get a copy of Perry's book about the 'Old 23rd > District' (if you don't already have one). You can still buy it locally in > Paris from his descendants if you don't. Not much on 'Moonshine Wars', but > good pictures and geneology of those who lived in the area. Suggest you > also attend the annual 'gathering' of the 'Old 23rd District' members > around July 4th at the old Church to get personnel info from folks who used > to live in the that area and participated in the 'Wars'. > > Please excuse me if you already know some of the information, for I don't > how much you have researched this period or the area............ > > Alot of folks and 'noteable' families from the 'Old 23rd' (part of Henry > County at the northern tip of Benton County) were involved in illegal > Moonshine production. Though they don't want it discussed publically, they > relate their stories about this period amongst themselves and their dislike > for the 'Revenuoors'. > > Prior discussions, I have had with some of the TVA authorities, have > indicated that though there was not a 'real reason' for the TVA to relocate > the families of the 'Old 23rd' at the time of the flooding of Kentucky > Lake, the TVA did it in order to 'remove' this section of the local society > from the area, as they were deemed 'undesireable' to the rest of the > population in Benton and Henry Counties. Don't know.....only repeating > what I have been told by some the local residents of Big Sandy and the TVA > folks. > > As you have been informed by Dan, this 'topic' is not open to discussion > in the local population. Perry was warned NOT to discuss it in his book on > the area. Suggest you handle your inquires with 'velvet gloves'. You can > still get the transcripts of the Evans' case at the Henry County > Courthouse........ > > Be careful here......but,....Wish you well in this endeavor. > > Let us know how we might help, and please stay on List with your progress. > > Dave > > PS: Not only a 'good' book, but one 'Hell of a Movie'...... > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > --------------------------------- > > > > At 01:26 AM 12/15/01 -0500, Dan & Bobbie Martin wrote: > >Hi Wil & Dave: > > > >That is an old email address. I use DanMartin@xc.org for all my > >genealogy work. > > > >My Dad remembers the event in question. Cloys' father, George Martin, > >was my grandfather's brother. Cloys and his dad had a still, and the > > >community, lacking proper law enforcement, took things into their own > >hands. Some of them came up and broke up the still. Cloys evidently > >shot Tom Evans over this incident. Cloys served about a year in prison > >for the murder. My Dad said that George made really good whisky. He > >said that George didn't drink himself since he was a member of the > >Church of Christ, but gave a lot of money from the sale of the whisky to > >the church. My Dad is loosing his memory, but I will ask him if he > >remembers any more details about the incident. I know it is still a > >sensitive matter with Cloys' family. Larry Perry was warned not to put > >anything in his book on the Old 23rd about it. > > > >Tom Evans was the first cousin once removed of Cloys' wife, Clara Evans > >Martin. His full name was Thomas Jefferson Evans, b. 1884, Henry Co., > >TN, d. 18 Apr 1926, Henry Co., TN, m. 28 Jun 1908 to Claudia Herndon, b. > >1885, d. 1969. > > > >The following is from Charles D. Robbins book: > > > >"And of course, there was the bootleg war which made headlines even in > >the large city > >newspapers. A man named Homer Wells, who was a native of Paris, but was > >head of the L. & N. > >Railroad detectives came to Paris to head the investigation, and he > >later wrote a story about it that > >appeared in True Detective magazine. > > > >"This had been a case where numerous stills were operating out in the > >woods and the law > >enforcement officials couldn't find them, or more likely they were not > >trying to find them. > >"There were men living in the area who were against the making of > >bootleg whiskey, so they took > >the law into their own hands and were breaking up the stills. After a > >couple of years of simmering, the > >conflict broke into the open when Tom Evans, one of the 'Vigilantes' was > >shot and killed." > > > >[Source: "Old 23rd District," by Charles D. Robbins, Paris, TN 1985, p. 85] > > > >Dan Martin > >---------------- > > > >W. A. Christopher wrote: > > > >>You may want to contact Dan Martin at dlmartin2@earthlink.net . His is, I > >>think related to the Martins' of Old 23rd. Dan is the list owner of the > >>Henry Co List. > >>Wil > >> > >> > >>==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >>GENEALOGY is like Hide & Seek: > >>They Hide & I Seek !! > >> > > > >-- > >Have I, therefore, become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Gal. 4:16 > >Jesus said: "I am The Way, The Truth And The Life, and nobody comes to the > Father but by Me." John: 14:6 > >Christian Exchange International: http://www.ceiinc.org > >Balanced Life Concepts: http://www.ceiinc.org/blc/blc.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > >My Family Tree has Root Rot !! > > > > > ==== DanvilleCrossing Mailing List ==== > My genealogy software won't accept "spaceship" > as a "Place of Birth"..... Now What ???? >
Chris, Forgot........ Have a website map of who lived where in the 'old 23rd', but have forgotten to which website I uploaded it ( it has been a long time since I have researched this area). However, I do have a graphic file of the map that I could send you, but it is very large (over 1.2 meg). Let me know if you can handle that. Dave