Anne, This bio on Charles in History of NC Baptists Vol. 1 1663-1825 will answer some of your questions: REV. CHARLES DANIEL Born Jan ---1731 near Richmond in Virgininia. Bred a churchman; embraced the principles of the Baptists in the Spring of 1749, and had the ordinance administerd to him by Rev. Josiah HART at Fishing Creek, Ordained August 16, 1753 by said HART and Rev. Henry LEDBETTER at said Fishing Creek. But by 1755 changed his sentiments towards the doctrines of grace, chiefly by means of reading Mr. WHITFIELD'S sermons; became minister of this church soon after the time of the constitution, November 15, 1756. Married Amy CLARK, but had no issue. He was reputed a knowing and wise man. and therefore often consulted in civil affairs. He dropped preaching from the time he suspected the orthodoxy of his first principals, and he was settled in the doctrines of Grace, and had the assurance thst he himself was in a state of grace. A footnote states: The Minutes of the Kehukee Associaation, p 11, indicate that it was for moral delinquency that Daniel was silenced. This is corraborated by Burkitt and Read's statement, Kehukee Association, 235. It appears that many of the earlier Baptist churches advocated allowing any prospective member to be immersed (Baptized) whereas Charles, Thomas and others believed no immersion could take place until there was a full profession of faith. You are aware from your property research that Charles, Thomas, Edmond and Eustace DANIEL all held property along Fishing Creek in Halifax County. As to where and when Thomas married Sarah BURNEY I speculate that it was probably Pitt County where Sarah's father Simon resided before leaving for GA. This may explain why no record of their marriage has surfaced because if memory serves Pitt Cty. suffered significant records destruction. As to when, at least before 1763 when Simon BURNEY deeded 2 negroes to his "son-in-law Thomas DANIEL of Halifax". The reference to Col. William Horn took place in 1755 at the time of unrest in the church. Susannah REED'S (READ) will was in Halifax County, NC. Susannah's maiden name was FULGHAM and she was out of a prominent Isle of Wight family as was her first husband Henry WEST. The Edmond DANIEL with spouse Alice died in Granville Cty., NC abt 1755. He was listed on a 1753 tax list with son Hustis and below them a Thomas DANIEL was listed. There may be some connection from these people to the Greene Cty. group but I have been unable to tie it together. Apologize for lack of dates and incomplete paraphrasing in earlier post. Mike

Mike, I also found this as relates to the LEDBETTERS. Charles LEDBETTER (b. 1740 in Brunswick County, VA) was the son of Henry LEDBETTER and Edith WILLIAMSON and he must have married a Frances RANDLE from what I see here. If so, then the family of France's uncle James RANDLE I bounces right into this whole bunch in Greene and Hancock County, GA, via of James RANDLE II and Rosanna GRAVES family. Looking a little clearer, now.... What do you want to bet the Charles name we see came from the LEDBETTERS? <<< Charles Ledbetter and wife Frances on Jan. 25, 1764 deeded land to Jeckonias Randle (He was her uncle, born in King William County, May 1, 1710, son of John Randle and Mary Johns). On Nov. 2, 1774 Charles Ledbetter and Frances sold their land in Brunswick County and "refugeed" from Tories to what was then Anson County, North Carolina, later Montgomery County. At about the same time his brother Drury Ledbetter and many related families left Brunswick and settled in the same direction. Among these were Randles, Ledbetters, Davidsons, Prichards, Quinceys, Johnsons, Laniers and Tillmans. Charles was also a Reverend who came to Tennessee from Virginia in 1790 Charles and Frances moved from Brunswick County, Virginia to Montgomery County, North Carolina shortly before the American Revolution. >>>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] DANIEL ~ RANDLE, MURDEN ~ ASBURY > Anne, > > This bio on Charles in History of NC Baptists Vol. 1 1663-1825 will answer > some of your questions: > > REV. CHARLES DANIEL Born Jan ---1731 near Richmond in Virgininia. Bred a > churchman; embraced the principles of the Baptists in the Spring of 1749, and had > the ordinance administerd to him by Rev. Josiah HART at Fishing Creek, > Ordained August 16, 1753 by said HART and Rev. Henry LEDBETTER at said Fishing > Creek. But by 1755 changed his sentiments towards the doctrines of grace, chiefly > by means of reading Mr. WHITFIELD'S sermons; became minister of this church > soon after the time of the constitution, November 15, 1756. Married Amy > CLARK, but had no issue. He was reputed a knowing and wise man. and therefore > often consulted in civil affairs. He dropped preaching from the time he suspected > the orthodoxy of his first principals, and he was settled in the doctrines of > Grace, and had the assurance thst he himself was in a state of grace. > > A footnote states: The Minutes of the Kehukee Associaation, p 11, indicate > that it was for moral delinquency that Daniel was silenced. This is > corraborated by Burkitt and Read's statement, Kehukee Association, 235. > > It appears that many of the earlier Baptist churches advocated allowing any > prospective member to be immersed (Baptized) whereas Charles, Thomas and others > believed no immersion could take place until there was a full profession of > faith. > > You are aware from your property research that Charles, Thomas, Edmond and > Eustace DANIEL all held property along Fishing Creek in Halifax County. > > As to where and when Thomas married Sarah BURNEY I speculate that it was > probably Pitt County where Sarah's father Simon resided before leaving for GA. > This may explain why no record of their marriage has surfaced because if memory > serves Pitt Cty. suffered significant records destruction. As to when, at > least before 1763 when Simon BURNEY deeded 2 negroes to his "son-in-law Thomas > DANIEL of Halifax". > > The reference to Col. William Horn took place in 1755 at the time of unrest > in the church. > > Susannah REED'S (READ) will was in Halifax County, NC. Susannah's maiden > name was FULGHAM and she was out of a prominent Isle of Wight family as was her > first husband Henry WEST. > > The Edmond DANIEL with spouse Alice died in Granville Cty., NC abt 1755. He > was listed on a 1753 tax list with son Hustis and below them a Thomas DANIEL > was listed. There may be some connection from these people to the Greene Cty. > group but I have been unable to tie it together. > > Apologize for lack of dates and incomplete paraphrasing in earlier post. > > > Mike > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > Mail Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > or- > Digest Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >