Robert, Anytime I see a family from one place marrying a family in another place, I always think there was probably an earlier connection in the original location of the other family. In this case, the FLETCHERS were from Accomack County, VA and "they say" the McINTOSHS were from Berkeley County, SC, two rather dissimilar locations. My bet is they were both probably from the same general area of VA, at some point in time, or had family links back in the "old country," in this case, Scotland. However, by the time of the RW it seems that both families were located in Marion District, SC area -- Georgetown and Horry area. As you know this was also the Cheraw area where a lot of Huguenots moved, otherwise known as the French Pee Dee. No one seems to have any parental links for either Joseph McINTOSH or Elizabeth PERRYMAN, which makes me wonder about these families. However, the marriage records say that Joseph McINTOSH married Elizabeth PERRYMAN on 5 OCT 1727 in St. Andrews Parish, Berkeley County, South Carolina. Of their children listed, Elizabeth McINSTOSH married William FLETCHER from Accomack County, VA; Mary McINTOSH married James CONYERS and there is no information on a Lachlan(a) McINTOSH who some list as a female and some, a male. I also carry a CONYERS family from Stafford County, VA in this same time frame, which makes me think the McINTOSH's were probably originally from the same general area of VA as the FLETCHERS - Fairfax, Stafford, Accomack. A bunch of PERRYMANS also migrated from VA to the Edgefield, SC area and we know another VA family who migrated to this same area, don't we -- the O'DANIELS. This FLETCHER and McINTOSH bunch may have migrated a little earlier to SC than the O'DANIELS but they seem to have followed the same general path - upstate VA to upstate SC, down state to the Edgefield, SC area and later across the Savannah River into GA. Just a hunch, but they may be out of your VA bunch. It always surprises me the historical genius some researchers exhibit when they link up families that come from completely different locations and have no prior family connections. Such, was seldom the case in these early families. In these early Colonial families, most parent's children always married children of their friends, their traveling companions, their neighbors and most especially, someone who was already a part of their family, like a cousin of some variety, even if they had to go back to the "old country" to get them. The typical best pick by the parents for the spouse for a son or daughter was a second cousin -- the grand children of siblings. Parents would, occasionally, let first cousins marry if a suitable spouse could not be found at the "second cousin level" but parents usually tried to keep most marriages at this level if their child's spouse was from within the family. Contrary to all of the many romantic novels we see from this period, love was not a prerequisite for marriage in colonial times. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Daniell" <rdaniell@surfbest.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > John, > > As one McINTOSH researcher told me, unscrambling the McINTOSH lines in the > colonial period of America is like following a single strand in a large bowl > of spaghetti without being able to move any of it. > > The History of Baldwin County, Georgia by Anna Maria Green Cook, 1925, pages > 361-2, provides this: "John Mohr McINTOSH, born in Badenoch, Scotland, in > 1700, according to a record in his family Bible, "Took shipping on board the > "Prince of Wales," Capt. George DUNBAR, at Inverness, October 1735, with > some hundred of sons for the new Colony of Georgia, came in at Tybee Bar the > beginning of January, 1736, and landed at Darien, on the Altamaha river, the > place of their destination, the 1st of February, same year." He married > Marjory FRAZIER of Garthmore, 4th of March, 1724. They brought with them > six children born in Scotland, Ann, called Nancy, being born in Georgia, > 18th April, 1737. As Captain of the Highlanders, who came over with him, > John McINTOSH joined Oglethorpe in fighting the Spanish in 1740-42, being > also a member of the Provincial Assembly held in Savannah in 1751. His > sons, William and Lachland, served in the Revolution, the first attaining > the rank of Colonel, the second Major-General, so the family early won the > sobriquet, "the fighting McIntoshes." > > This may settle who Major General Lachlan McINTOSH was. His sister, Ann > "Nancy" married Robert BAILLIE, Esq. at Barrington in the late 1750s, and > signed her name "ANN MACKINTOSH" in a letter to Robert. > > A Joseph was not named in the three MACKINTOSH pedigrees listed in the cited > History. > > The John McINTOSH of Stafford, later P.W., then Fairfax County, VA appears > to have been established there when John Mohr McINTOSH arrived in GA in > 1736. Lachlan is as common in most of the McINTOSH families as William, > James, Martha and Elizabeth are in the DANIELs. All part of the same > problem. > > Gadsden County, FL? In a great air traffic control term, "Hand off." > > Robert > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: "Robert Daniell" <rdaniell@surfbest.net> > Cc: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com>; "O'Daniel List" <ODANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:08 AM > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > Robert, > > The one big McINTOSH line I carry is the one out of St. Andrews > Parrish, > > Berkeley County, South Carolina but it probably had links back to VA and > NC; > > a lot of these families had similar family links. I know also this South > > Carolina McINTOSH family had links to the FLETCHER family of Accomack > > County, VA and Accomack is near your O'DANIEL bunch in Fairfax County, VA, > > isn't it? > > The specific family I am referring to is Joseph McINTOSH (b. ABT 1695) > > of Berkeley County, South Carolina. He was married to am Elizabeth > PERRYMAN > > and the PERRYMAN family is also tied to the DANIELL family of Charleston, > as > > I remember. > > However, your Lachlan McIntosh bunch may tie to the MOORE family out > of > > Princess Anne County, VA because Lachlan is name in this MOORE family, > some > > of which migrated to NC with the MOYES. We also know this PA County, VA > > MOORE family descended from Gov. James MOORE of SC. > > The following is the children of William FLETCHER and Elizabeth > > McINTOSH. Elizabeth (1729-1806) was the d/o Joseph, listed above. One > son, > > John FLETCHER (1765-1860) married Susannah MIZELL were they were the > parents > > of Zabud FLETCHER, Sr. (1807-1864) and two of his kids married DANEL kids > > down in the Gadsden County, FL. Another son, Joseph FLETCHER (1762-AFT > 1850) > > married Elizabeth LANIER and they migrated to Telfair County, GA. > > > > <<<< > > Children > > i. George Fletcher b: 28 DEC 1752 Marriage 1 Hollen Colson b: ABT. 1752 > > Married: 1801 in Bulloch Co, GA > > ii. John Fletcher b: in Charleston, SC Marriage 1 Susannah Mizzell b: in > NC > > iii. Frances Fletcher b: 1767 in SC Marriage 1 David McCall b: 1760 in SC > > iv. Joseph Fletcher , Sr. b: 1 SEP 1762 in Charleston, Charleston Co, SC > > Marriage 1 Elizabeth Lanier b: 1784 in Duplin Co, NC > > v. Ann "Nancy" Fletcher b: ABT. 1768 in Cheraw District, SC Marriage 1 > > William McCall , Rev. Soldier b: ABT. 1766 in Pee Dee or Lynch's Creek, > > Society Hill, SC Married: BEF. 1792 > > >>> > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Daniell" <rdaniell@surfbest.net> > > To: <ODANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:20 AM > > Subject: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > Hi, Sherlene, > > > > > > An interesting name combination. Where in VA was Daniel McINTOSH born? > > Who > > > was his father? > > > > > > The family of John McINTOUSH/McINTOSH of Fairfax, VA included a wife, > > > Elizabeth UNKNOWN, and six children named in an abstract of his will of > > > 1769: Anne (m. John O'DANIEL), Catherine (unmarried by 1800), Valinder > (m. > > > Benjamin KING?), Lachlan (an executor of John O'DANIEL's will of 1798), > > > John, and Thomas. > > > > > > Helpful to you? > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sherlene Mats" <sherlene@netzero.net> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:10 PM > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > Robert, here's my McIntosh-Cherry connection: > > > > Descendants of Daniel McIntosh > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > > > > > 1. Daniel1 McIntosh was born 1789 in VA. He married Clarissa. > She > > > > was born 1789 in North Carolina. > > > > > > > > Children of Daniel McIntosh and Clarissa are: > > > > + 2 i. Jesse2 McIntosh, born 1819 in Mississippi. > > > > 3 ii. Jacob McIntosh, born 1827 in Mississippi. He married > > > > (1) Sarah Anthony January 29, 1846 in San Augustine, SanAugustine Co., > > > > TX. He married (2) Rebecca Lewis December 20, 1853. > > > > + 4 iii. William McIntosh, born 1828 in Alabama; died August > > > > 04, 1863. > > > > 5 iv. Hardy McIntosh. > > > > > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > > > > > 2. Jesse2 McIntosh (Daniel1) was born 1819 in Mississippi. He > > > > married Ellen Elizabeth Cherry April 13, 1846 in Nacogdoches Co., TX, > > > > daughter of John Cherry and Mitilda Bridges. She was born Bet. 1829 - > > > > 1831 in Texas, and died in Angelina Co., Texas. > > > > > > > > Children of Jesse McIntosh and Ellen Cherry are: > > > > + 6 i. George Washington3 McIntosh, born February 03, 1849 in > > > > Angelina Co., Texas; died August 04, 1923 in Huntington, Angelina Co., > > > > Texas. > > > > + 7 ii. Lucinda McIntosh, born 1854. > > > > + 8 iii. Mary Jane McIntosh, born 1852. > > > > 9 iv. Sarah Luvenia. > > > > > > > > 4. William2 McIntosh (Daniel1) was born 1828 in Alabama, and died > > > > August 04, 1863. He married Lurana Jane Page January 10, 1852 in > > > > Angelina Co., TX, daughter of Nehemiah Page and Elizabeth Crane. She > > > > was born July 30, 1836 in Hinds, Mississippi, and died February 16, > 1908 > > > > in Beulah, Angelina Co., TX. > > > > > > > > Children of William McIntosh and Lurana Page are: > > > > 10 i. Elie C.3 McIntosh. > > > > 11 ii. Micah McIntosh. > > > > 12 iii. Nehemiah McIntosh, born December 05, 1852; died > > > > December 03, 1863. > > > > 13 iv. Mary Jane McIntosh, born October 18, 1856; died July > > > > 19, 1893. > > > > 14 v. Rhoda Epsey McIntosh, born August 06, 1859; died March > > > 1870. > > > > + 15 vi. Sarah Luvenia McIntosh, born December 18, 1861 in > > > > Angelina Co., Texas; died March 31, 1899. > > > > > > > > Of course, I cut it way down. I have them linked all the way to me. > > > > John Cherry & Matilda Bridges were my ggg-grandparents. > > > > Sherlene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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