Sorry, John, but I need a little clarification. I had email problems and have been reading through large numbers of List emails from the past few days, trying to catch up. I am probably a little punch drunk from wading through all of that rampant speculation, but I don't get what you are saying here. Are you saying that you still think that John Mor McIntosh was really John McIntosh Mor? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <outdoorwriter@hotmail.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > Jack, > One would think their name was McINTOSH, since he was a Scottish > Highlanders and the Mc is built into almost every name in the clan, one way > or another, but stranger things have happened. > Dr.'s E. Merton Coulter and Albert E. Saye were two of GA's premier > historians and both were resident history professors at UGA. Dr. Saye was an > old Madison, GA boy, his father was the superintendent of schools in Morgan > County, GA, as I remember. > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:47 AM > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > John, I think that you have made another mistake here in assuming that > your > > book is better than the other one. It sure looks to me like the man's > name > > was John Mor McIntosh. Mor, which is galeic for "large" was later > spelled > > Mohr or Moore, or More. > > > > Here is his listing from A List of Early Settlers of Darien, Ga. 1735-1741 > > (compiled by Bessie Lewis from (1) Colonial Records of Georgia (published > > and unpublished), (2) A List of the Early Settlers of Georgia, edited by > E. > > Merton Coulter and Albert E. Saye, (3) Charleston County Wills, > Charleston, > > SC, (4) Mesne Conveyances, Charleston, SC, (5) Deed Records, Liberty Co., > > GA. > > > > Mackintosh, John Mor, age 36, Gent. > > " , Margaret* (*Marjorie Fraser), wife, age 30 > > " , John, son age 8 > > " , William, son, age 10 > > " , Lachlan, son, age 9 > > " , Phineas, son, age 3 > > " , Lewis, son, age 14 mos. > > " , Janet, dau. age 14 mos. > > " , Ann, dau, born in Darien, in 1737 > > " , George, son, born in Darien, 1739 > > > > > > It is true that on some records he was listed as John McIntosh Moore or > John > > McIntosh M - but there were at least 4 or 5 men named John McIntosh who > > came to Darien with Makay. Several of them had their middle names - or > home > > villages - listed after their last name to distinguish them one from > another > > . For example, when the settlers at Savannah petitioned for permission > to > > have slaves in 1739, the Scots at Darien sent a petition to Gen. > Oglethorpe > > asking that slaves not be allowed. The petition was signed by John > > Mackintosh Moore - but look who signed right below him: John Mackintosh > > Lynvulge. And look at these two early land grants: > > > > 11th Feb. 1757, John Mackintosh M, 150 acres of land in the district of > > Darian, reg. 28th Feb. 1757 > > > > 11th Feb. 1757, John Mackintosh D, 434 acres in the District of Sappola, > > reg. 28th Feb. 1757. > > > > I think that it was just a way of distinguishing between multiple men - > > probably relatives - named John McIntosh. > > > > Here is a different listing for him: > > MCINTOSH, CAPT. JOHN MOHR, 1700-1761, McIntosh Co., Ga. Capt. Highland > Light > > Infantry, under Gen. Oglethorpe, against the Spaniards, 1740. Wounded and > > captured at Fort Moosa, Florida. > > > > This John McIntosh was the father of Lachlan McIntosh, the Rev. War > General. > > See: http://www.georgiamagazine.com/counties/chatham/tour/064i.htm > > > > Jack Butler > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:25 PM > > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > Robert, > > > I would take that stuff about Darien in this book with a grain of > > salt. > > > The followin is from a short history of McIntosh County, GA. Notice the > > > person you reference, John Mohr McINTOSH, is listed in this history as > > John > > > McIntosh MOHR. I assume a little name shortening, here, and not of the > > type > > > one generally puts in good, home made biscuits, either. <grin> The > > author > > > of this work on Baldwin County, GA also did not get the dates exact;u > > right > > > on when they got to what would later became Darien, GA. > > > I guess I have a little bit better sources than she had in 1925 and > a > > > whole lot faster, too. <grin> The spaghetti analogy you mentioned may > > well > > > be due to the MOHR to McINTOSH conversion, as such seems to be the case. > > > <grin> > > > > > > <<< > > > Fort King George > > > > > > Fort King George, a mile east of present-day Darien, was the first > English > > > settlement of coastal Georgia. The fort was established to deter French > > > expansion into the Altamaha region, as well as to assert British claims > > > against the Spanish who had maintained a string of missions along the > > lower > > > south Atlantic coast in the previous century. Fort King George served as > a > > > "trip-wire." An attack by either France or Spain against the lonely > > outpost > > > would represent an act of war against England. > > > > > > The Georgia colony, when Fort King George was established in 1721, was a > > > dozen years from its birth. South Carolina claimed the coast down to 29 > > > degrees north latitude, just south of the Spanish stronghold of St. > > > Augustine. > > > > > > South Carolinians also wanted a fort to the south to aid in the > protection > > > of their colony. A site was chosen on the first high ground on the north > > > branch of the Altamaha but, instead of strong young fighting men to > > garrison > > > the fort, the British government sent a regiment of invalid soldiers > > > instead. > > > > > > Colonel John Barnwell, an Irish settler who lobbied hard for the fort on > > > behalf of South Carolina interests, was appointed to lead the expedition > > to > > > the Altamaha and build the outpost he called "King George's Fort." > > > > > > Utlilizing South Carolina rangers and sawyers, including some slaves, > > > Barnwell oversaw the construction of a three-story cypress blockhouse in > > the > > > fall of 1721 at a total cost of about 1,000 pounds sterling. South > > > Carolinians, who regarded the Savannah River as the practical southern > > > boundary of their colony, now had some security with Fort King George > > > established 65 miles south of that river. > > > > > > Barnwell had chosen the site well from a military standpoint, but it was > > not > > > a healthy area, even by 18th century standards. In those days, the only > > way > > > to preserve meat was to thoroughly salt it. Salt meat tended to rot in > > hot, > > > damp weather, and nothing was known of the need for fresh fruits and > > > vegetables in the diet. Thus, the men were often sick. Fort King George > > had > > > a high death rate and burial ground just west of the blockhouse attests > to > > > this. The garrison was largely idle as there was little action against > the > > > French or Spanish, or their Indian allies. > > > > > > A fire in 1825 and a haphazard reconstruction of the barracks aftewards > > left > > > the fort in poor condition, and the garrison was withdrawn in 1727. Two > > > South Carolina rangers were kept on station at the site to keep an eye > on > > > enemy movements in the area until 1734. Two years later, Oglethorpe's > > > Highlanders arrived to establish another military outpost on the site. > > > > > > The fate of the original Fort King George blockhouse is unknown. Since > > > Barnwell designed it to be easily dismantled, it might well have been > > moved > > > to another location. > > > In 1988, through a cooperative effort between the Lower Altamaha > > Historical > > > Society, which raised $50,000, and the Georgia Department of Natural > > > Resources, which maintains the site and provided matching funds, the > Fort > > > King George blockhouse was reconstructed to the specifications of the > > > original plans by Barnwell. The present blockhouse and surrounding > > > palisades, earthworks and moat are almost an exact duplicate of the Fort > > as > > > it was in 1721 when Barnwell built it. > > > > > > The blockhouse, typical of other frontier fortifications in use in > > colonial > > > America, dominated the fort and offered expansive views of the inland > > > waterways. Fort King George's blockhouse had three floors: the first two > > > floors to serve as repository for ammunition and stores and to provide > > > firing positions for musket-bearing soldiers as well as naval > > carriage-type > > > cannon; and a third floor for musket defense and observation purposes. > > > > > > The Scots Highlanders Settle Darien > > > General James Edward Oglethorpe founded the new Georgia colony at > Savannah > > > on February 12, 1733. He soon realized the need for military outposts to > > the > > > south to protect the main settlement at Savannah. The purpose of the > > Georgia > > > colony was largely military at first (as well as philanthropic). Thus, > > > Oglethorpe decided upon an outpost on the former site of Fort King > George > > on > > > the Altamaha and a more elaborate fortification on St. Simons Island, a > > > short distance south of the Altamaha. > > > > > > In October 1735, a band of Highland Scots recruited from the vicinity of > > > Inverness, Scotland by Hugh Mackay and George Dunbar sailed from > Inverness > > > on the Prince of Wales. In early January 1736, they arrived at Savannah > > and, > > > on Oglethorpe's orders, began making plans for settling at the mouth of > > the > > > Altamaha. > > > > > > On the 19th of January, after traveling down the inland waterway by > boat, > > > the Highlanders landed at Barnwell's Bluff on the site of Fort King > > George. > > > There the Scots established the settlement they called Darien, in memory > > of > > > the ill-fated expedition made by their countrymen to the Isthmus of > Darien > > > in Panama in 1697. There were 177 people in this hardy band of Scots, > > > including women and children, and they were led by John McIntosh Mohr > and > > > Hugh Mackay. > > > > > > The men were trained Highland warriors, among the world's finest > fighting > > > soldiers and especially selected by Oglethorpe for the purpose he had in > > > mind. The Highlanders emplaced cannon on the earthworks of Fort King > > George; > > > huts were built for the soldiers and those who had brought their > families. > > A > > > small kirk was built for the purpose of holding divine services. The > Scots > > > had brought their own minister, Rev. John McLeod of the Isle of Skye, > > > recently ordained by the Prebyterian congregation in Georgia. > > > > > > Captain Dunbar wrote to the Georgia Trustees: "The Scots have settled at > > > Barnwell's Bluff on the Altamaha and desire their town shall be called > > > Darien. > > > > > > On February 22, 1736, Oglethorpe made his first visit to Darien. The > > > occasion marked the first military parade of British troops to be held > in > > > Georgia. In their honor, Oglethorpe wore the Highland habit. As they > > marched > > > in review before him, the Highlanders made an impressive sight in full > > > regalia, with claymore, side arms and targes (shields). > > > > > > In the summer of 1736, Oglethorpe again visited and on this occasion he > > laid > > > out the town of Darien on a high bluff overlooking the river about one > > mile > > > west of the Barnwell Bluff outpost. Here, Fort Darien was to be built; a > > > town was surveyed and town squares laid out with commons on the east and > > > north and acreage lots to the west of Fort King George. > > > > > > Late in 1739, the District of Darien was laid out, comprising an area > > > approximating that of present-day McIntosh County. For a time, the town > of > > > Darien was called New Inverness to distinguish it from the District. > > > > > > The Birth of McIntosh County > > > After the Revolution, St. Andrew's Parish became a part of Liberty > County > > > which had been created in 1777. > > > In 1793, McIntosh County was formed from Liberty, and the seat of > > government > > > was established at Sapelo Bridge. A courthouse was set up in the home of > > > John McIntosh, a parade ground was laid out for the local militia, and > the > > > little town became a stopover point on the state route between Savannah, > > > Darien and St. Marys. > > > > > > After 1806, Darien began to experience rapid growth due to its favorable > > > position at the mouth of the Altamaha River, which gave the town great > > > potential as a port of export. > > > > > > The Altamaha was a primary conveyor from the Georgia interior. Great > > barges > > > and so-called "Oconee boxes" of cotton from the upcountry plantations > were > > > floated down the Altamaha to Darien for shipment to northern and > European > > > markets. By 1819, regular steamboat service had been established between > > > Darien and Milledgeville. Darien was becoming a cotton-exporting center > of > > > significance, rivaling Savannah in importance>>> > > > >>> > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robert Daniell" <rdaniell@surfbest.net> > > > To: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > Cc: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com>; <ODANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:13 PM > > > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > John, > > > > > > > > As one McINTOSH researcher told me, unscrambling the McINTOSH lines in > > the > > > > colonial period of America is like following a single strand in a > large > > > bowl > > > > of spaghetti without being able to move any of it. > > > > > > > > The History of Baldwin County, Georgia by Anna Maria Green Cook, 1925, > > > pages > > > > 361-2, provides this: "John Mohr McINTOSH, born in Badenoch, Scotland, > > in > > > > 1700, according to a record in his family Bible, "Took shipping on > board > > > the > > > > "Prince of Wales," Capt. George DUNBAR, at Inverness, October 1735, > with > > > > some hundred of sons for the new Colony of Georgia, came in at Tybee > Bar > > > the > > > > beginning of January, 1736, and landed at Darien, on the Altamaha > river, > > > the > > > > place of their destination, the 1st of February, same year." He > married > > > > Marjory FRAZIER of Garthmore, 4th of March, 1724. They brought with > > them > > > > six children born in Scotland, Ann, called Nancy, being born in > Georgia, > > > > 18th April, 1737. As Captain of the Highlanders, who came over with > > him, > > > > John McINTOSH joined Oglethorpe in fighting the Spanish in 1740-42, > > being > > > > also a member of the Provincial Assembly held in Savannah in 1751. > His > > > > sons, William and Lachland, served in the Revolution, the first > > attaining > > > > the rank of Colonel, the second Major-General, so the family early won > > the > > > > sobriquet, "the fighting McIntoshes." > > > > > > > > This may settle who Major General Lachlan McINTOSH was. His sister, > Ann > > > > "Nancy" married Robert BAILLIE, Esq. at Barrington in the late 1750s, > > and > > > > signed her name "ANN MACKINTOSH" in a letter to Robert. > > > > > > > > A Joseph was not named in the three MACKINTOSH pedigrees listed in the > > > cited > > > > History. > > > > > > > > The John McINTOSH of Stafford, later P.W., then Fairfax County, VA > > appears > > > > to have been established there when John Mohr McINTOSH arrived in GA > in > > > > 1736. Lachlan is as common in most of the McINTOSH families as > William, > > > > James, Martha and Elizabeth are in the DANIELs. All part of the same > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > Gadsden County, FL? In a great air traffic control term, "Hand off." > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > > To: "Robert Daniell" <rdaniell@surfbest.net> > > > > Cc: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com>; "O'Daniel List" <ODANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:08 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > > The one big McINTOSH line I carry is the one out of St. Andrews > > > > Parrish, > > > > > Berkeley County, South Carolina but it probably had links back to VA > > and > > > > NC; > > > > > a lot of these families had similar family links. I know also this > > > South > > > > > Carolina McINTOSH family had links to the FLETCHER family of > Accomack > > > > > County, VA and Accomack is near your O'DANIEL bunch in Fairfax > County, > > > VA, > > > > > isn't it? > > > > > The specific family I am referring to is Joseph McINTOSH (b. ABT > > > 1695) > > > > > of Berkeley County, South Carolina. He was married to am Elizabeth > > > > PERRYMAN > > > > > and the PERRYMAN family is also tied to the DANIELL family of > > > Charleston, > > > > as > > > > > I remember. > > > > > However, your Lachlan McIntosh bunch may tie to the MOORE family > > out > > > > of > > > > > Princess Anne County, VA because Lachlan is name in this MOORE > family, > > > > some > > > > > of which migrated to NC with the MOYES. We also know this PA > County, > > VA > > > > > MOORE family descended from Gov. James MOORE of SC. > > > > > The following is the children of William FLETCHER and Elizabeth > > > > > McINTOSH. Elizabeth (1729-1806) was the d/o Joseph, listed above. > > One > > > > son, > > > > > John FLETCHER (1765-1860) married Susannah MIZELL were they were the > > > > parents > > > > > of Zabud FLETCHER, Sr. (1807-1864) and two of his kids married DANEL > > > kids > > > > > down in the Gadsden County, FL. Another son, Joseph FLETCHER > (1762-AFT > > > > 1850) > > > > > married Elizabeth LANIER and they migrated to Telfair County, GA. > > > > > > > > > > <<<< > > > > > Children > > > > > i. George Fletcher b: 28 DEC 1752 Marriage 1 Hollen Colson b: ABT. > > 1752 > > > > > Married: 1801 in Bulloch Co, GA > > > > > ii. John Fletcher b: in Charleston, SC Marriage 1 Susannah Mizzell > b: > > in > > > > NC > > > > > iii. Frances Fletcher b: 1767 in SC Marriage 1 David McCall b: 1760 > in > > > SC > > > > > iv. Joseph Fletcher , Sr. b: 1 SEP 1762 in Charleston, Charleston > Co, > > SC > > > > > Marriage 1 Elizabeth Lanier b: 1784 in Duplin Co, NC > > > > > v. Ann "Nancy" Fletcher b: ABT. 1768 in Cheraw District, SC > Marriage > > 1 > > > > > William McCall , Rev. Soldier b: ABT. 1766 in Pee Dee or Lynch's > > Creek, > > > > > Society Hill, SC Married: BEF. 1792 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Robert Daniell" <rdaniell@surfbest.net> > > > > > To: <ODANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:20 AM > > > > > Subject: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Sherlene, > > > > > > > > > > > > An interesting name combination. Where in VA was Daniel McINTOSH > > > born? > > > > > Who > > > > > > was his father? > > > > > > > > > > > > The family of John McINTOUSH/McINTOSH of Fairfax, VA included a > > wife, > > > > > > Elizabeth UNKNOWN, and six children named in an abstract of his > will > > > of > > > > > > 1769: Anne (m. John O'DANIEL), Catherine (unmarried by 1800), > > Valinder > > > > (m. > > > > > > Benjamin KING?), Lachlan (an executor of John O'DANIEL's will of > > > 1798), > > > > > > John, and Thomas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Helpful to you? > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Sherlene Mats" <sherlene@netzero.net> > > > > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:10 PM > > > > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert, here's my McIntosh-Cherry connection: > > > > > > > Descendants of Daniel McIntosh > > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Daniel1 McIntosh was born 1789 in VA. He married > > Clarissa. > > > > She > > > > > > > was born 1789 in North Carolina. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Children of Daniel McIntosh and Clarissa are: > > > > > > > + 2 i. Jesse2 McIntosh, born 1819 in Mississippi. > > > > > > > 3 ii. Jacob McIntosh, born 1827 in Mississippi. He > > > married > > > > > > > (1) Sarah Anthony January 29, 1846 in San Augustine, > SanAugustine > > > Co., > > > > > > > TX. He married (2) Rebecca Lewis December 20, 1853. > > > > > > > + 4 iii. William McIntosh, born 1828 in Alabama; died > > > August > > > > > > > 04, 1863. > > > > > > > 5 iv. Hardy McIntosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Jesse2 McIntosh (Daniel1) was born 1819 in Mississippi. > > He > > > > > > > married Ellen Elizabeth Cherry April 13, 1846 in Nacogdoches > Co., > > > TX, > > > > > > > daughter of John Cherry and Mitilda Bridges. She was born Bet. > > > 1829 - > > > > > > > 1831 in Texas, and died in Angelina Co., Texas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Children of Jesse McIntosh and Ellen Cherry are: > > > > > > > + 6 i. George Washington3 McIntosh, born February 03, > > 1849 > > > in > > > > > > > Angelina Co., Texas; died August 04, 1923 in Huntington, > Angelina > > > Co., > > > > > > > Texas. > > > > > > > + 7 ii. Lucinda McIntosh, born 1854. > > > > > > > + 8 iii. Mary Jane McIntosh, born 1852. > > > > > > > 9 iv. Sarah Luvenia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. William2 McIntosh (Daniel1) was born 1828 in Alabama, > and > > > died > > > > > > > August 04, 1863. He married Lurana Jane Page January 10, 1852 > in > > > > > > > Angelina Co., TX, daughter of Nehemiah Page and Elizabeth Crane. > > > She > > > > > > > was born July 30, 1836 in Hinds, Mississippi, and died February > > 16, > > > > 1908 > > > > > > > in Beulah, Angelina Co., TX. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Children of William McIntosh and Lurana Page are: > > > > > > > 10 i. Elie C.3 McIntosh. > > > > > > > 11 ii. Micah McIntosh. > > > > > > > 12 iii. Nehemiah McIntosh, born December 05, 1852; > died > > > > > > > December 03, 1863. > > > > > > > 13 iv. Mary Jane McIntosh, born October 18, 1856; died > > > July > > > > > > > 19, 1893. > > > > > > > 14 v. Rhoda Epsey McIntosh, born August 06, 1859; died > > > March > > > > > > 1870. > > > > > > > + 15 vi. Sarah Luvenia McIntosh, born December 18, 1861 > > in > > > > > > > Angelina Co., Texas; died March 31, 1899. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I cut it way down. I have them linked all the way to > > me. > > > > > > > John Cherry & Matilda Bridges were my ggg-grandparents. > > > > > > > Sherlene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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RE: rampant speculation Jack, This is a specialty on the DANIEL list. <grin> It is not that we want to do this or anything like that. It is just because there are several key DANIEL families that we have limited or no early civil records for, at all, especially those from Burke, Jefferson and Washington County, GA, where both of our families seem to have lived at one point or another. Not because they did not generate any of these civil records but because the Yankees and the white trash of the area saw fit to burn these court houses on more than one occasion. <grin> This has allowed some early researchers to cobble up these DANIEL family assignments and link them to families they were never a part of, further complicating the matter. I wish it was different and I could chirp right in and tell you who your DANIEL ancestors (and mine) were, where they came from, who they married and who all of their children were, but such is not the case. So, what I occasionally do is -- speculate, postulate, cogitate or whatever you want to call it, looking for a right mesh of collateral names, given names and locations that seem to match up with these DANIEL families for which we only have limited family information. The reason being is that we all know a little about these families and by throwing this out what "little bit we do know" and trying to make it fly, we may learn a lot more. I know this "throwing out" may seem like "throwing up" to your but such is not the case. Does this make sense? I also know that this type of methodology just burns you up, doesn't it? You are a "facts man" who wants everything laid out for them very neatly in black and white, with "every I dotted and T crossed." I also wish I could make it that easy for you but it is not possible, either for you or for me. It will probably remain that way until we can uncover some additional facts relating to some of these mysterious and unlinked DANIEL folks, probably provided in civil records of their collateral families. Until then, we will just have to continue to muddle along as we are doing, picking up occasional tid-bits here and there, but I will promise you this, Jack, one day we will have all of the answers but whether that is in either of our lifetimes, I cannot promise. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > Sorry, John, but I need a little clarification. > > I had email problems and have been reading through large numbers of List > emails from the past few days, trying to catch up. I am probably a little > punch drunk from wading through all of that rampant speculation, but I don't > get what you are saying here. Are you saying that you still think that John > Mor McIntosh was really John McIntosh Mor? > > Jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <outdoorwriter@hotmail.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:29 AM > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > Jack, > > One would think their name was McINTOSH, since he was a Scottish > > Highlanders and the Mc is built into almost every name in the clan, one > way > > or another, but stranger things have happened. > > Dr.'s E. Merton Coulter and Albert E. Saye were two of GA's premier > > historians and both were resident history professors at UGA. Dr. Saye was > an > > old Madison, GA boy, his father was the superintendent of schools in > Morgan > > County, GA, as I remember. > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:47 AM > > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > John, I think that you have made another mistake here in assuming that > > your > > > book is better than the other one. It sure looks to me like the man's > > name > > > was John Mor McIntosh. Mor, which is galeic for "large" was later > > spelled > > > Mohr or Moore, or More. > > > > > > Here is his listing from A List of Early Settlers of Darien, Ga. > 1735-1741 > > > (compiled by Bessie Lewis from (1) Colonial Records of Georgia > (published > > > and unpublished), (2) A List of the Early Settlers of Georgia, edited by > > E. > > > Merton Coulter and Albert E. Saye, (3) Charleston County Wills, > > Charleston, > > > SC, (4) Mesne Conveyances, Charleston, SC, (5) Deed Records, Liberty > Co., > > > GA. > > > > > > Mackintosh, John Mor, age 36, Gent. > > > " , Margaret* (*Marjorie Fraser), wife, age 30 > > > " , John, son age 8 > > > " , William, son, age 10 > > > " , Lachlan, son, age 9 > > > " , Phineas, son, age 3 > > > " , Lewis, son, age 14 mos. > > > " , Janet, dau. age 14 mos. > > > " , Ann, dau, born in Darien, in 1737 > > > " , George, son, born in Darien, 1739 > > > > > > > > > It is true that on some records he was listed as John McIntosh Moore or > > John > > > McIntosh M - but there were at least 4 or 5 men named John McIntosh who > > > came to Darien with Makay. Several of them had their middle names - or > > home > > > villages - listed after their last name to distinguish them one from > > another > > > . For example, when the settlers at Savannah petitioned for permission > > to > > > have slaves in 1739, the Scots at Darien sent a petition to Gen. > > Oglethorpe > > > asking that slaves not be allowed. The petition was signed by John > > > Mackintosh Moore - but look who signed right below him: John Mackintosh > > > Lynvulge. And look at these two early land grants: > > > > > > 11th Feb. 1757, John Mackintosh M, 150 acres of land in the district of > > > Darian, reg. 28th Feb. 1757 > > > > > > 11th Feb. 1757, John Mackintosh D, 434 acres in the District of > Sappola, > > > reg. 28th Feb. 1757. > > > > > > I think that it was just a way of distinguishing between multiple men - > > > probably relatives - named John McIntosh. > > > > > > Here is a different listing for him: > > > MCINTOSH, CAPT. JOHN MOHR, 1700-1761, McIntosh Co., Ga. Capt. Highland > > Light > > > Infantry, under Gen. Oglethorpe, against the Spaniards, 1740. Wounded > and > > > captured at Fort Moosa, Florida. > > > > > > This John McIntosh was the father of Lachlan McIntosh, the Rev. War > > General. > > > See: http://www.georgiamagazine.com/counties/chatham/tour/064i.htm > > > > > > Jack Butler > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:25 PM > > > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > I would take that stuff about Darien in this book with a grain of > > > salt. > > > > The followin is from a short history of McIntosh County, GA. Notice > the > > > > person you reference, John Mohr McINTOSH, is listed in this history as > > > John > > > > McIntosh MOHR. I assume a little name shortening, here, and not of > the > > > type > > > > one generally puts in good, home made biscuits, either. <grin> The > > > author > > > > of this work on Baldwin County, GA also did not get the dates exact;u > > > right > > > > on when they got to what would later became Darien, GA. > > > > I guess I have a little bit better sources than she had in 1925 > and > > a > > > > whole lot faster, too. <grin> The spaghetti analogy you mentioned > may > > > well > > > > be due to the MOHR to McINTOSH conversion, as such seems to be the > case. > > > > <grin> > > > > > > > > <<< > > > > Fort King George > > > > > > > > Fort King George, a mile east of present-day Darien, was the first > > English > > > > settlement of coastal Georgia. The fort was established to deter > French > > > > expansion into the Altamaha region, as well as to assert British > claims > > > > against the Spanish who had maintained a string of missions along the > > > lower > > > > south Atlantic coast in the previous century. Fort King George served > as > > a > > > > "trip-wire." An attack by either France or Spain against the lonely > > > outpost > > > > would represent an act of war against England. > > > > > > > > The Georgia colony, when Fort King George was established in 1721, was > a > > > > dozen years from its birth. South Carolina claimed the coast down to > 29 > > > > degrees north latitude, just south of the Spanish stronghold of St. > > > > Augustine. > > > > > > > > South Carolinians also wanted a fort to the south to aid in the > > protection > > > > of their colony. A site was chosen on the first high ground on the > north > > > > branch of the Altamaha but, instead of strong young fighting men to > > > garrison > > > > the fort, the British government sent a regiment of invalid soldiers > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > Colonel John Barnwell, an Irish settler who lobbied hard for the fort > on > > > > behalf of South Carolina interests, was appointed to lead the > expedition > > > to > > > > the Altamaha and build the outpost he called "King George's Fort." > > > > > > > > Utlilizing South Carolina rangers and sawyers, including some slaves, > > > > Barnwell oversaw the construction of a three-story cypress blockhouse > in > > > the > > > > fall of 1721 at a total cost of about 1,000 pounds sterling. South > > > > Carolinians, who regarded the Savannah River as the practical southern > > > > boundary of their colony, now had some security with Fort King George > > > > established 65 miles south of that river. > > > > > > > > Barnwell had chosen the site well from a military standpoint, but it > was > > > not > > > > a healthy area, even by 18th century standards. In those days, the > only > > > way > > > > to preserve meat was to thoroughly salt it. Salt meat tended to rot in > > > hot, > > > > damp weather, and nothing was known of the need for fresh fruits and > > > > vegetables in the diet. Thus, the men were often sick. Fort King > George > > > had > > > > a high death rate and burial ground just west of the blockhouse > attests > > to > > > > this. The garrison was largely idle as there was little action against > > the > > > > French or Spanish, or their Indian allies. > > > > > > > > A fire in 1825 and a haphazard reconstruction of the barracks > aftewards > > > left > > > > the fort in poor condition, and the garrison was withdrawn in 1727. > Two > > > > South Carolina rangers were kept on station at the site to keep an eye > > on > > > > enemy movements in the area until 1734. Two years later, Oglethorpe's > > > > Highlanders arrived to establish another military outpost on the site. > > > > > > > > The fate of the original Fort King George blockhouse is unknown. Since > > > > Barnwell designed it to be easily dismantled, it might well have been > > > moved > > > > to another location. > > > > In 1988, through a cooperative effort between the Lower Altamaha > > > Historical > > > > Society, which raised $50,000, and the Georgia Department of Natural > > > > Resources, which maintains the site and provided matching funds, the > > Fort > > > > King George blockhouse was reconstructed to the specifications of the > > > > original plans by Barnwell. The present blockhouse and surrounding > > > > palisades, earthworks and moat are almost an exact duplicate of the > Fort > > > as > > > > it was in 1721 when Barnwell built it. > > > > > > > > The blockhouse, typical of other frontier fortifications in use in > > > colonial > > > > America, dominated the fort and offered expansive views of the inland > > > > waterways. Fort King George's blockhouse had three floors: the first > two > > > > floors to serve as repository for ammunition and stores and to provide > > > > firing positions for musket-bearing soldiers as well as naval > > > carriage-type > > > > cannon; and a third floor for musket defense and observation purposes. > > > > > > > > The Scots Highlanders Settle Darien > > > > General James Edward Oglethorpe founded the new Georgia colony at > > Savannah > > > > on February 12, 1733. He soon realized the need for military outposts > to > > > the > > > > south to protect the main settlement at Savannah. The purpose of the > > > Georgia > > > > colony was largely military at first (as well as philanthropic). Thus, > > > > Oglethorpe decided upon an outpost on the former site of Fort King > > George > > > on > > > > the Altamaha and a more elaborate fortification on St. Simons Island, > a > > > > short distance south of the Altamaha. > > > > > > > > In October 1735, a band of Highland Scots recruited from the vicinity > of > > > > Inverness, Scotland by Hugh Mackay and George Dunbar sailed from > > Inverness > > > > on the Prince of Wales. In early January 1736, they arrived at > Savannah > > > and, > > > > on Oglethorpe's orders, began making plans for settling at the mouth > of > > > the > > > > Altamaha. > > > > > > > > On the 19th of January, after traveling down the inland waterway by > > boat, > > > > the Highlanders landed at Barnwell's Bluff on the site of Fort King > > > George. > > > > There the Scots established the settlement they called Darien, in > memory > > > of > > > > the ill-fated expedition made by their countrymen to the Isthmus of > > Darien > > > > in Panama in 1697. There were 177 people in this hardy band of Scots, > > > > including women and children, and they were led by John McIntosh Mohr > > and > > > > Hugh Mackay. > > > > > > > > The men were trained Highland warriors, among the world's finest > > fighting > > > > soldiers and especially selected by Oglethorpe for the purpose he had > in > > > > mind. The Highlanders emplaced cannon on the earthworks of Fort King > > > George; > > > > huts were built for the soldiers and those who had brought their > > families. > > > A > > > > small kirk was built for the purpose of holding divine services. The > > Scots > > > > had brought their own minister, Rev. John McLeod of the Isle of Skye, > > > > recently ordained by the Prebyterian congregation in Georgia. > > > > > > > > Captain Dunbar wrote to the Georgia Trustees: "The Scots have settled > at > > > > Barnwell's Bluff on the Altamaha and desire their town shall be called > > > > Darien. > > > > > > > > On February 22, 1736, Oglethorpe made his first visit to Darien. The > > > > occasion marked the first military parade of British troops to be held > > in > > > > Georgia. In their honor, Oglethorpe wore the Highland habit. As they > > > marched > > > > in review before him, the Highlanders made an impressive sight in full > > > > regalia, with claymore, side arms and targes (shields). > > > > > > > > In the summer of 1736, Oglethorpe again visited and on this occasion > he > > > laid > > > > out the town of Darien on a high bluff overlooking the river about one > > > mile > > > > west of the Barnwell Bluff outpost. Here, Fort Darien was to be built; > a > > > > town was surveyed and town squares laid out with commons on the east > and > > > > north and acreage lots to the west of Fort King George. > > > > > > > > Late in 1739, the District of Darien was laid out, comprising an area > > > > approximating that of present-day McIntosh County. For a time, the > town > > of > > > > Darien was called New Inverness to distinguish it from the District. > > > > > > > > The Birth of McIntosh County > > > > After the Revolution, St. Andrew's Parish became a part of Liberty > > County > > > > which had been created in 1777. > > > > In 1793, McIntosh County was formed from Liberty, and the seat of > > > government > > > > was established at Sapelo Bridge. A courthouse was set up in the home > of > > > > John McIntosh, a parade ground was laid out for the local militia, and > > the > > > > little town became a stopover point on the state route between > Savannah, > > > > Darien and St. Marys. > > > > > > > > After 1806, Darien began to experience rapid growth due to its > favorable > > > > position at the mouth of the Altamaha River, which gave the town great > > > > potential as a port of export. > > > > > > > > The Altamaha was a primary conveyor from the Georgia interior. Great > > > barges > > > > and so-called "Oconee boxes" of cotton from the upcountry plantations > > were > > > > floated down the Altamaha to Darien for shipment to northern and > > European > > > > markets. By 1819, regular steamboat service had been established > between > > > > Darien and Milledgeville. Darien was becoming a cotton-exporting > center > > of > > > > significance, rivaling Savannah in importance>>> > > > > >>> > > > > John R. Clarke > > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Robert Daniell" <rdaniell@surfbest.net> > > > > To: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > > Cc: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com>; <ODANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:13 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > John, > > > > > > > > > > As one McINTOSH researcher told me, unscrambling the McINTOSH lines > in > > > the > > > > > colonial period of America is like following a single strand in a > > large > > > > bowl > > > > > of spaghetti without being able to move any of it. > > > > > > > > > > The History of Baldwin County, Georgia by Anna Maria Green Cook, > 1925, > > > > pages > > > > > 361-2, provides this: "John Mohr McINTOSH, born in Badenoch, > Scotland, > > > in > > > > > 1700, according to a record in his family Bible, "Took shipping on > > board > > > > the > > > > > "Prince of Wales," Capt. George DUNBAR, at Inverness, October 1735, > > with > > > > > some hundred of sons for the new Colony of Georgia, came in at Tybee > > Bar > > > > the > > > > > beginning of January, 1736, and landed at Darien, on the Altamaha > > river, > > > > the > > > > > place of their destination, the 1st of February, same year." He > > married > > > > > Marjory FRAZIER of Garthmore, 4th of March, 1724. They brought with > > > them > > > > > six children born in Scotland, Ann, called Nancy, being born in > > Georgia, > > > > > 18th April, 1737. As Captain of the Highlanders, who came over with > > > him, > > > > > John McINTOSH joined Oglethorpe in fighting the Spanish in 1740-42, > > > being > > > > > also a member of the Provincial Assembly held in Savannah in 1751. > > His > > > > > sons, William and Lachland, served in the Revolution, the first > > > attaining > > > > > the rank of Colonel, the second Major-General, so the family early > won > > > the > > > > > sobriquet, "the fighting McIntoshes." > > > > > > > > > > This may settle who Major General Lachlan McINTOSH was. His sister, > > Ann > > > > > "Nancy" married Robert BAILLIE, Esq. at Barrington in the late > 1750s, > > > and > > > > > signed her name "ANN MACKINTOSH" in a letter to Robert. > > > > > > > > > > A Joseph was not named in the three MACKINTOSH pedigrees listed in > the > > > > cited > > > > > History. > > > > > > > > > > The John McINTOSH of Stafford, later P.W., then Fairfax County, VA > > > appears > > > > > to have been established there when John Mohr McINTOSH arrived in GA > > in > > > > > 1736. Lachlan is as common in most of the McINTOSH families as > > William, > > > > > James, Martha and Elizabeth are in the DANIELs. All part of the > same > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > Gadsden County, FL? In a great air traffic control term, "Hand > off." > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > > > To: "Robert Daniell" <rdaniell@surfbest.net> > > > > > Cc: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com>; "O'Daniel List" > <ODANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:08 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > > > The one big McINTOSH line I carry is the one out of St. > Andrews > > > > > Parrish, > > > > > > Berkeley County, South Carolina but it probably had links back to > VA > > > and > > > > > NC; > > > > > > a lot of these families had similar family links. I know also > this > > > > South > > > > > > Carolina McINTOSH family had links to the FLETCHER family of > > Accomack > > > > > > County, VA and Accomack is near your O'DANIEL bunch in Fairfax > > County, > > > > VA, > > > > > > isn't it? > > > > > > The specific family I am referring to is Joseph McINTOSH (b. > ABT > > > > 1695) > > > > > > of Berkeley County, South Carolina. He was married to am > Elizabeth > > > > > PERRYMAN > > > > > > and the PERRYMAN family is also tied to the DANIELL family of > > > > Charleston, > > > > > as > > > > > > I remember. > > > > > > However, your Lachlan McIntosh bunch may tie to the MOORE > family > > > out > > > > > of > > > > > > Princess Anne County, VA because Lachlan is name in this MOORE > > family, > > > > > some > > > > > > of which migrated to NC with the MOYES. We also know this PA > > County, > > > VA > > > > > > MOORE family descended from Gov. James MOORE of SC. > > > > > > The following is the children of William FLETCHER and > Elizabeth > > > > > > McINTOSH. Elizabeth (1729-1806) was the d/o Joseph, listed above. > > > One > > > > > son, > > > > > > John FLETCHER (1765-1860) married Susannah MIZELL were they were > the > > > > > parents > > > > > > of Zabud FLETCHER, Sr. (1807-1864) and two of his kids married > DANEL > > > > kids > > > > > > down in the Gadsden County, FL. Another son, Joseph FLETCHER > > (1762-AFT > > > > > 1850) > > > > > > married Elizabeth LANIER and they migrated to Telfair County, GA. > > > > > > > > > > > > <<<< > > > > > > Children > > > > > > i. George Fletcher b: 28 DEC 1752 Marriage 1 Hollen Colson b: > ABT. > > > 1752 > > > > > > Married: 1801 in Bulloch Co, GA > > > > > > ii. John Fletcher b: in Charleston, SC Marriage 1 Susannah Mizzell > > b: > > > in > > > > > NC > > > > > > iii. Frances Fletcher b: 1767 in SC Marriage 1 David McCall b: > 1760 > > in > > > > SC > > > > > > iv. Joseph Fletcher , Sr. b: 1 SEP 1762 in Charleston, Charleston > > Co, > > > SC > > > > > > Marriage 1 Elizabeth Lanier b: 1784 in Duplin Co, NC > > > > > > v. Ann "Nancy" Fletcher b: ABT. 1768 in Cheraw District, SC > > Marriage > > > 1 > > > > > > William McCall , Rev. Soldier b: ABT. 1766 in Pee Dee or Lynch's > > > Creek, > > > > > > Society Hill, SC Married: BEF. 1792 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Robert Daniell" <rdaniell@surfbest.net> > > > > > > To: <ODANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:20 AM > > > > > > Subject: [O'DANIEL-L] Re: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Sherlene, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An interesting name combination. Where in VA was Daniel > McINTOSH > > > > born? > > > > > > Who > > > > > > > was his father? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The family of John McINTOUSH/McINTOSH of Fairfax, VA included a > > > wife, > > > > > > > Elizabeth UNKNOWN, and six children named in an abstract of his > > will > > > > of > > > > > > > 1769: Anne (m. John O'DANIEL), Catherine (unmarried by 1800), > > > Valinder > > > > > (m. > > > > > > > Benjamin KING?), Lachlan (an executor of John O'DANIEL's will of > > > > 1798), > > > > > > > John, and Thomas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Helpful to you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Sherlene Mats" <sherlene@netzero.net> > > > > > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:10 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] McIntosh-Cherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert, here's my McIntosh-Cherry connection: > > > > > > > > Descendants of Daniel McIntosh > > > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Daniel1 McIntosh was born 1789 in VA. He married > > > Clarissa. > > > > > She > > > > > > > > was born 1789 in North Carolina. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Children of Daniel McIntosh and Clarissa are: > > > > > > > > + 2 i. Jesse2 McIntosh, born 1819 in Mississippi. > > > > > > > > 3 ii. Jacob McIntosh, born 1827 in Mississippi. He > > > > married > > > > > > > > (1) Sarah Anthony January 29, 1846 in San Augustine, > > SanAugustine > > > > Co., > > > > > > > > TX. He married (2) Rebecca Lewis December 20, 1853. > > > > > > > > + 4 iii. William McIntosh, born 1828 in Alabama; died > > > > August > > > > > > > > 04, 1863. > > > > > > > > 5 iv. Hardy McIntosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Jesse2 McIntosh (Daniel1) was born 1819 in > Mississippi. > > > He > > > > > > > > married Ellen Elizabeth Cherry April 13, 1846 in Nacogdoches > > Co., > > > > TX, > > > > > > > > daughter of John Cherry and Mitilda Bridges. She was born > Bet. > > > > 1829 - > > > > > > > > 1831 in Texas, and died in Angelina Co., Texas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Children of Jesse McIntosh and Ellen Cherry are: > > > > > > > > + 6 i. George Washington3 McIntosh, born February 03, > > > 1849 > > > > in > > > > > > > > Angelina Co., Texas; died August 04, 1923 in Huntington, > > Angelina > > > > Co., > > > > > > > > Texas. > > > > > > > > + 7 ii. Lucinda McIntosh, born 1854. > > > > > > > > + 8 iii. Mary Jane McIntosh, born 1852. > > > > > > > > 9 iv. Sarah Luvenia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. William2 McIntosh (Daniel1) was born 1828 in Alabama, > > and > > > > died > > > > > > > > August 04, 1863. He married Lurana Jane Page January 10, 1852 > > in > > > > > > > > Angelina Co., TX, daughter of Nehemiah Page and Elizabeth > Crane. > > > > She > > > > > > > > was born July 30, 1836 in Hinds, Mississippi, and died > February > > > 16, > > > > > 1908 > > > > > > > > in Beulah, Angelina Co., TX. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Children of William McIntosh and Lurana Page are: > > > > > > > > 10 i. Elie C.3 McIntosh. > > > > > > > > 11 ii. Micah McIntosh. > > > > > > > > 12 iii. Nehemiah McIntosh, born December 05, 1852; > > died > > > > > > > > December 03, 1863. > > > > > > > > 13 iv. Mary Jane McIntosh, born October 18, 1856; > died > > > > July > > > > > > > > 19, 1893. > > > > > > > > 14 v. Rhoda Epsey McIntosh, born August 06, 1859; > died > > > > March > > > > > > > 1870. > > > > > > > > + 15 vi. Sarah Luvenia McIntosh, born December 18, > 1861 > > > in > > > > > > > > Angelina Co., Texas; died March 31, 1899. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I cut it way down. I have them linked all the way > to > > > me. > > > > > > > > John Cherry & Matilda Bridges were my ggg-grandparents. > > > > > > > > Sherlene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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