They must be related, they just almost have to be??? The Smith surname comes into play on one of John Daniels siblings? John Daniel born 1822, Grainger county, Tn. married Mary Anna Jeffreys, they had a son in Arkansas who married a Huella Smith, his name was Peyton Daniel, they settled in Centrailia, Oklahoma, its up by Vinitia Oklahoma , near the Missouri border, Huella and Peyton Daniel run a boarding home, she was of indian descent, they lived on her indian alotment in centrailia, Ruben Daniel, I have seen this name in Arkansas, I will go back and check my records to see what I can dig up on him. Vickie Mike Lanning <tlanning@cox.net> wrote: I also have a William and Martha (Rogers) Daniel. Following is information I have concerning this family. **************************************************************************** ********************************* !Source: 1860 census in Laclede Co., Mo. NAME: AGE OCCUPATION BORN William Daniel 52 farmer Tennessee Martha 42 housewife Tennessee Andrew 21 Missouri William 18 " Mary J. 16 " Isaiah 14 " James H. 7 " Elisha 2 " Isaiah 76 farmer Tennessee (Could this Isaiah be William's father?) !Burial: Big Sandy Cemetery. !In the 1870 Belmont twp. Woodson Co., Kansas census they are listed -- William Daniel, 60, Isiah, 23, James, 15, Asbury, 14, Ellen, 8, Jackson, 28, James A. 5 yrs. Not listed in 1860 was Reuben who married 15 Oct 1858, would have been 23 at the time. The above information copied from family group sheet obtained from Norvin Laverne Puckett, Box 732, 510 N. Sumner, Syracuse, KS 67878, (316)384-5918. **************************************************************************** ****************************** My Great-great grandfather was Reuben who had already married and left the home before the 1860 census. Reuben's birth was listed as being Shelbyville, Shelby County, IL. Here is some information from the notes I have on Reuben and his wife Sarah Jane (Bowman). **************************************************************************** ****************************** !Source: The following information copied from family group sheet obtained from Norvin Laverne Puckett, Box 732, 510 Sumner, Syracuse, KS 67878. !Information from Oceanic Hopkins, Pittsburg, KS. !Burial: Big Sandy Cemetery. !Reuben Daniel was born to William Daniel and Martha Rogers Daniel in Shelbyville, Shelby Co. Illinois, in 1837. In military records from The National Archives of the Civil War, Reuben was a private in Company G, 16th Regiment of the Missouri Calvary. He enlisted August 6, 1864 at Hartville, Missouri. According to these records he was reported at home sick since Feb. 10, 1865, but was present March and April, 1865. On July 1, 1865, he was mustered out, a private at Springfield, Missouri. In pension applications filed by his widow in 1888, it states, "He was home with the measels and was called back to the service before he recovered and took cold from the effects of which he never recovered, because of the affect produced on his lungs, so much that he never was well and able to do physical labor up to his death". Reuben or Reubin settled in Belmont Twp. Woodson Co. Kansas, March 1, 1866. Family records spell name Reuben but tombstone in Big Sandy Cemetery, Woodson Co. KS. says Reubin. Some publications Spelled it Rubin. !From the "In The Beginning" Woodson Co. KS publication; "In the early spring of 1856, a wagon caravan of eight wagons left the vicinity of Decatur, Illinois. There were five separate families with these eight wagons, all named Daniel. After quite a journey these wagons reached Kansas that seemed to be their destination, Reaching the Kansas frontier these families and wagons disbanded, going seperate ways. Some of these came to Woodson County. In one of these wagons coming to Woodson Co. was Rubin Daniel and his wife Sarah Jane. While listed in some records as Reuben, he is listed in others as Rubin. Perhaps the name Rubin is best to use here. Rubin Daniel is listed in Andreas History of Kansas as the first settler in Belmont Township, as having came here in 1856. The Andreas History of Kansas was published in 1883. It would be interesting to know just how Rubin and Sarah Jane chartered their course for their covered wagon across the county, as there were no roads nor trails except some Indian trails to follow. There may have been an occasional crude cabin some traveler had built along the main streams. These however did not stay long. An early Indian trail followed along the ridge on the east side of Big Sandy Creek, and here on a high bluff overlooking the Big Sandy Valley, Rubin Daniel built their first home - a log cabin. The creek ran close to the bluff here and then took a bend to the west. This was the south eighty acres in the southeast quarter of section 27, Twp. 26, Range 14. This was Osage Indian Land and had not been surveyed and was not until several years later. When Rubin and Sarah Jane made their long trip to Kansas, Sarah Jane was a bride of about 16 years of age. Her maiden name was Bowman. Rubin and Sarah Jane were the parents of five children, namely Mary Jane, Melissa, Martha, Reuben Jr., and Frank whose name on the 1870 census was James. The latter was born in 1869, the same year that his father died. Rubin Daniel died in 1869, and was buried in the Big Sandy cemetery, about a mile up the creek from the Daniel homestead, one of the first in the cemerety. While other settlers in that vicinity were able to get patents on their homesteads in 1869, Sarah Jane Daniel did not. She received a receipt for 80 acres on April 10, 1871. The Rubin Daniel heirs received the patent for this 80 acres, December 2, 1875. In the meantime, Sarah, or better known as Aunt Jane, left the log cabin on the bluff and built a house along the road a half mile to the west of the log cabin. A road had been built on the half section line north and south down the Valley. Reuben Daniel Jr. and family lived in this house and Aunt Jane lived in a small house to the southwest corner of the 80 acres. Here she lived by herself, smoking her clay pipe enjoying having company. She was a native of Tennessee and a typical pioneer mother who knew hardships, heartaches, and a few enjoyments that came to the very early settlers along the Big Sandy Valley. ! We will take up the children of Rubin and Sarah Jane. Mary Jane married John Harp. They had two daughters, Lydia and Della. Melissa married George Smith. They had three children Ethel, Ola and Leslie. Martha married Charles Smith. They had a daughter, Iva. Later she married Cortez Cregory. Their children were H. Ward and James Gregory, and a daughter, Juanita E. Puckett. Rueben Jr. married Lou Cooper. Their children were Gladys, Wayne, Jean, Lavina, Mildred, a daughter they called Ud (we did not get her name), and Victor Debs. Frank married Allie Williamson. Their children were Dulsie, Vernard, and Noble. ! It seems rather odd that with the number of children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren that Rubin and Sarah Jane Daniel had, there are not a single one left in Woodson County at this time, in 1978, one hundred and twenty-two years later. During the years between 1860 and 1866, there were several marriages performed along Big Sandy Creek and some distance on both sides from the creek, by a "Rubin Daniel, Minister of the Gospel." Whether this was the Rubin Daniel we have been telling about we do not know, or it might have been another Rubin Daniel who with his family settled along Big Sandy Creek, just over a mile up the creek from the other Rubin Daniel, before 1860. At this time we have very little about this Rubin Daniel, although his sons, William, John, and Jared lived along Big Sandy for years. Perhaps we can find out more about them later." **************************************************************************** ****************************** I have been to Big Sandy and have seen Rubin's (Reuben's) gravesite. My great-grandfather is Reuben, Jr. who I remember well. He died at age 96 in Hutchinson, KS. The Lou Cooper referred to as the wife to Reuben, Jr is Lucy Honora Cooper. The real children of Reuben and Lucy were Wayne (my grandfather), Franklin Eugene (called Gene, not Jean), Gladys, Ood (not a daughter but a son and his name really was Ood Wallace Daniel), Lovena, Dorin, Thyrzabell "Bell" (Still living in Colorado) and Mildred. Wayne was the third child, but the first two died as infants. Wayne died in my mother's home on 3 June 1979. Four of his children (all in their 80's) are still living. I care for William Lester Daniel who will be 90 in May. My mother (Zola Lillian) is now living in Eureka, KS where my sister cares for her. Reuben Wayne Daniel is living in Hutchinson and Samuel Paul Daniel is living here in Wichita. As I mentioned, Thyrzabell "Bell" (she would have a fit if she knew her real first name was being shared) is still living in Colorado. She has not known anybody for the past 5 or 6 years but is physically doing very well at last report. The George and Charles Smith who married Melissa and Martha according to the article quoted above were Smyth according to family records. The books quoted above were of course somewhat questionable as are most books written about families. While I have enough information to be sure that my Daniel line was in Shelby County, IL, I question whether they came to Woodson County, KS from the Decatur, IL area as the family had gone to Missouri between times. It is possible I guess that it could have happened that way though. Obviously, some of the names were wrong in the "In the Beginning" book, but much of it was accurate based on my conversations with my great grandfather and others. The Daniel kids have made a habit of long lives and I have met many of the people mentioned in the book (including Ood, or Ud as they spelled it). They lived a ways away and other than my grandfather (Wayne) and my Mom's Aunt Bell, I was not around any of them a great deal. I went to the funerals of many of them. The day of Mom's Aunt Lovina, her husband (Raymond Herrington) helped me to memorize the US Presidents. I would have been 12 years old at this time as she died 31 Dec 1958 (45 years ago tomorrow). I can still name all the presidents as a result of that day. I have not had the time for the past 5 or 6 years to really work on my genealogy and probably will not for the next few years, but hopefully one day I'll retire and be able to really get into it again. Happy cousin hunting, Mike Lanning ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Lomon" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:53 PM Subject: RE: [DANIEL-L] Immigrant Daniel line of Prince George and Brunswick, VA. also Henry and Patrick county, Va. > Thank you very much, this family you mention is part of my line, This William you are referring to is a son of Basil Daniel. By the DNA matches on the Daniel DNA project, Basil is a exact match to our Edward Daniel line. Some say William's wife was Martha Rogers? But I have no conclusive evidence, > My Edward Daniel from Henry county, Va. had a son William also born 1799, Va. married Martha Mayes in Grainger county, Tn. 1821, Some researchers pick up my William Daniel in Benton county, Ark. and mistake him to the son of Basil, My William was in Benton county, Ark. 1850 on the census and this William was already in Texas, but some researchers get the two mixed up claiming my William as a son of Basil, But they are related, our line is at a brick wall, no one can get past Basil or Edward to find out who there parents were? But I greatly appreciate all of your help, Vickie > Martha Boggs wrote: > Vicki, this may not add a great deal to your research, but there was a > William Daniel, age 53, b. Pendleton District, SC, with wife Martha, age 50, > b. Kentucky, with five children, living in Van Zandt Co., TX in 1850. I > thought at first they might be related to my Daniel line, but have never > connected. They were not there in 1860. The children were daughters Nancy > and E.J. born Shelby Co., IL, daughter Elizabeth born Carroll Co., AR and > sons Amon and Levi, born in Carroll Co. You may wonder how specific places > of birth were given in the 1850 census. Apparently the census taker mistook > "country of birth" for "county of birth", therefore giving county of birth. > This might be some of your line. > > Martha > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vickie Lomon [mailto:vlomon@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 5:20 PM > To: DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Immigrant Daniel line of Prince George and > Brunswick, VA. also Henry and Patrick county, Va. > > > Is anyone out there researching the Immigrant Daniel line of Prince George > and Brunswick county, VA.? Especially the Hugh who married Ann and John > Daniel Sr. who died in Henry county, VA. John Daniel Sr. was supposedly > married to Elizabeth and after her death married a Sarah Weatherspoon. We > have had our family descendants DNA tested using the 12 marker test and the > 25 marker test, both Edward Daniel of Henry county, Va. and a Basil Daniel > who was in SC. Pendilton District on the 1800 census matched, Basil was in > Buncombe county, NC. as well, . Basil left and migrated to Shelby county, > Illinois, and later on to Carroll county, Ark. Some of Edward Daniels > children also migrated to Ark. Benton county about 1848. William Daniel who > married Martha Mayes in Grainger county, Tn. settled in Ark. > I am hopeing someone may know something about this bunch of Daniels, Gillium > Daniel, Hugh, Richard, and Marmaduke Daniel, the family of Edward Tatum who > married Martha Daniel. I feel that are connected to the Brunswick and > Chatham county, Daniel families. Also I am including some information I > found pertaining to a Samuel Witherspoon, supposedly the second wife of John > Daniel Sr. was Sarah Weatherspoon, this Samuel Witherspoon was also in > Shelby county, Ilinois with Basil. > BIG SPRING TOWNSHIP (SHELBY COUNTY) > > IS situated in the extreme south-east part of Shelby county. It is bounded > on the north by Ash Grove, west by Prairie township, south by Effingham > county, and east by Cumberland county, and is six by nine miles in extent. > The township is about equa lly divided between prairie and timber. The > Little Wabash river passes through its entire length from north to south; > along this stream the land is quite broken. The other streams are Copperas, > Drake, Bills, Brush, Hog, Rattlesnake and Clear creeks -- all tributaries to > the Wabash. > The first settlers were: Fancher, Weatherspoon and the Daniels. B. Fancher > settled the place where John Spain now lives, known as Big Spring > Post-office, in 1827. > Samuel G. Weatherspoon settled about a half a mile south of Big Spring, in > 1828, near the Wabash; and the following year he built a small water-mill on > this stream -- ground corn only -- it was considered at that time quite an > improvement upon the horse-m ills. In 1832 he began grinding wheat, and > instead of a bolt be used a sifter, also run by water-power. Two years later > he put in an upright saw, which was quite an acquisition to this part of the > country at that time, as here the early settlers could get timber sawed out > without the expense of so much labor. Prior to the putting in of this saw, > the lumber, what little was used in the early settlement of the country, was > sawed out by the use of the whip-saw, where two logs were laid across a deep > ravine; cross-timbers were then placed on these, and the log to be sawed was > rolled on--one man stood above and one below, and by the use of a long thin > saw they could turn out some very nice lumber; but it was a slow business, > and! > very > hard work. The mill has lo ng since been washed away, and > (Page 230) > --------------------------------- > > hardly a sign of it now remains. But the mill and its surroundings are still > bright in the memory of many an early settler in the eastern part of Shelby, > northern part of Effingham, and western part of Cumberland counties. > Weatherspoon made the first land entry in this township, June 14, 1832. He > entered forty acres, the north-west quarter of the northeast quarter section > twenty-nine, where he had previously settled and started an improvement; it > is now a part of the A. Quicksall estate. Weatherspoon afte rwards removed > to Texas. > > Bazel Daniel settled one-half mile north-east of Big Spring, about 1828. > William Daniel built a cabin near Fancher's in 1831. > Nathaniel Daniel built his cabin within half a mile of Big Spring the same > year. > Fancher and the Daniels only held "squatter claims." They improved about > four acres each, on which they raised a little corn. However, they spent > most of their time in hunting. Fancher left this country in the fall of 1832 > for the west, and was soon follo wed by Bazel Daniel and his son William; > Nathaniel and Amon remarried. The Daniels were from Tennessee. Bazel Daniel > was a native of North Carolina. > The second entry of land made in this township was by Francis Simpson, > August 10th, 1833; he entered the extreme north-east forty in township, > 10-6. The third entry was made by William Morgan, Feb. 8th, 1836; he entered > the south-west quarter of the south -east quarter of section fourteen, in > Copperas creek. The following November 30th, Preston Ramsey and Daniel > Stuart entered forty acres each in the north part of the township. Ramsey's > land was in section eighteen, and Stuart's in section five. Amon Danie l, > son of Bazel, settled in the south part of the township, section five, in > about 1835. Feb. 6th, 1837, he entered forty acres in this section the same > day. Nathaniel Daniel entered forty acres in section eight. Amon Daniel > raised quite a large family, a nd improved a food farm, where he resided > until his death. Nathaniel raised a family of six children, and resided in > the township until his death. Three of his children are now living. Paul > Daniel in Prairie township, and! > the > other two in Texas. > John Spain, a native of North Carolina, though from Tennessee, here came > into the township in 1832. Eight years later he settled permanently at Big > Spring, where he now resides. About thirty years ago he got a post-office > established here, called Big Spri ng, and he has filled the office of > post-master without intermission up to the present time. The mail route has > been changed several times; when the office was first established, the mail > came by the way of Cochran's Grove post-office. The mail now comes from > Stewardson once a week. > John Young, who lives in the east part of the township, near Copperas creek, > settled there in 1840. For fourteen years previous to his settlement here, > he lived in Coles county, about ten miles distant from where he now resides. > He was a soldier in the Bl ack Hawk war, and went from Coles county under > Captain Ross. Mr. Young was born on the road, while his parents were > emigrating from Georgia to Kentucky in 1804. > William Hart settled farther down the Copperas creek in about 1842. Thomas > Robinson was the next to settle in this part of the township, and Charles > Sawyer and John Waggoner soon followed. William Garrett settled in the north > part of the township on the s ide of Wabash creek as early as 1841. > Joseph Baker settled first on Sand creek, in the year 1827, and in 1845 > moved to Big Spring township, and located on section 2, town. 9, range 2. > Jesse and James Baker settled near by the following year. > Among the first German settlers in the vicinity of Sigel were Harman Siemer, > John Sankmaster, Joseph Luke, Henry Kateman and Joseph Werman. There is now > a large German population throughout the township, so much so that the > wooden shoe is in constant dema nd, and one of the prominent articles of > trade in Sigel. The Germans here are a hard-working class of people, and are > doing much towards the improvement of these lands. H. Siemer built a saw and > grist mill about three-quarters of a mile northwest of Sigel in 1855; this > mill had three run of burrs, and did a good business until about 1867, when > it was moved into Effingham county. Siemer also had at this place a still > house, where he made whiskey for several years, and until the high tax was === message truncated ===