Mike, I agree -- I think there are two Thomas DANIEL's in Greene County, GA and the Charles name comes from the one not tied to the BURNEYS. I still have to believe the Charles DANIEL who married Elizabeth COFFEE has to be out of the DANIEL bunch tied to the CUNNINHAMS. The COFFEE's just kept it too close for him not to be out of that bunch. That bunch would have married their siblings if they could have and the CUNNINHGAMS, the same way. <grin> I am going to need to see some money and property floating with that bunch from Fishing Creek to cement them into a family because the CUNNINGHAMS and COFFEE's sure had it and I do not think they would let some old po old Baptist preacher into this bunch if they only came knocking with their hat in hand. Maybe Baptist preachers and their kids were an exception to this "hat in hand" rule, since we both know how mercenary the Baptists can be. <grin> I do assume you know that Jesse MERCER was born in Halifax District, Martin County, NC and you do not get any more Baptist than Brother Jesse. Also, his daughter, I have forgotten her name, married John CLARKE (1766-1832), as his first wife. Since he married her without Brother Jesse's permission and she died on their honeymoon -- Brother Jesse spent the remainder of his life ruining this son of Gen. Elijah CLARKE. He actually ran him out of the state of Georgia and he died down in FL. Later, this former GA Governor married Nancy WILLIAMSON, d/o of Col. Micajah WILLIAMSON and Sarah GILLIAM. Nor to overlook the fact that Nancy's sister, Susannah WILLIAMSON, married Thompson BIRD and their daughter, Sarah Williamson BIRD married Judge Lucious Q. C. LAMAR, Esq. (1797-1834) of Milledgeville, Baldwin County, GA. Nor overlooking the William DANIEL of Savannah, who I think was William Coffee DANIEL, who unsuccessfully interceded with the GA Senate to overturn the conviction of a Methodist minister in 1831. After this Methodist minister was hung and Judge LAMAR found him to be innocent two years later, Judge LAMAR took his own life in 1834. Nor to overlook the fact the person, Winfield Montgomery RIVERS, who married my GGM, Mary Jane RENEAU, as her second husband after the death of my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL in 1865, was living with Mrs. Sarah Williamson Bird LAMAR in 1850 in Oxford, Newton County, GA. I assume he was teaching at Oxford, now Emory.... BTW, her son, Justice Lucious Q. C. LAMAR married Virginia LONGSTREET, d/o Judge Augustus Baldwin LONGSTREET (1790-1870) of Augusta, Richmond County, GA. Judge LONGSTREET was the second president of Emory College and later, he was president of Centenary College and the University of MS at Oxford. Judge LONGSTREET was trained as an attorney at Yale but became disillusioned with the law after the death of one of his children and became a Methodist Circuit rider. He was also the uncle of Gen. James LONGSTREET of Georgia and his son in law, Lucious Q. C. LAMAR, Jr. was the Colonel of the 19th MS Infantry Regiment and later an Associate Justice of the US Supreme Court. Judge LONGSTREET died in Oxford, MS in 1870. A short bio of Judge LONGSTREET - " When the "faltering" hands of Ignatius Few let go the reins of the (Emory) College, the "stronger hands" of Judge Augustus Baldwin Longstreet took over, Bullock wrote in his history of Emory. Longstreet was an intelligent, exuberant, Yale-educated Georgian with an imposing presence and a lively sense of humor.... By the time he came to Emory at age fifty, Longstreet had practiced law in and around Augusta, served a term as judge of the Supreme Court of the Ocmulgee District, become a Methodist minister, edited and published an August newspaper, and written a series of sketches that were compiled in a book called Georgia Scences. These stories, told with the flair of a born raconteur and full of earthy humor, made their author famous across the United States." <<< 1850 Census 65th Dist., Newton Co., GA Sarah Lamar? 41 f 3500 b.GA Thompson 22 m Physcian b.GA Mary 17 f b.GA Jefferson 15 m b.GA Sarah 20 f b.FL W. M. Rivers 26 m Teacher b.SC G.P. Norman 18 m b.SC attended school R. ?????(illegible) 16 m b.SC attended school S. Wiggins 19 m b.SC attended school Robert Riley 20 m b.SC attended school ??????(illegible) Harris 16 m b.SC attended school ???? (illegible) Cullars 17 m b.SC attended school G. Bap 20 m b.SC attended school A. M. Williams 20 m b.SC attended school T. Terry 19 m b.SC attended school A. Lamar 18 m b.SC attended school W. W. Wallace 17 m b.SC attended school >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] DANIEL ~ RANDLE, MURDEN ~ ASBURY > Anne, > > Re: Thomas DANIEL & Sarah RANDLE (& all variations). If this is true, than > very probably there were two Thomas DANIELS in Greene County, GA.. Simon > BURNEY mentions his son-in-law Rev. Thomas DANIEL in his will (Greene Cty., GA, Jan > 1792) so it is very probable this Thomas married Sarah BURNEY. I believe > this Thomas was a brother of Charles DANIEL as stated in the History of NC > Baptists when referring to Halifax County churches: > > This Col William HORN (of the Falls of Tar River church) coming to the > defense of his view got into a heated argument with Elder Thomas DANIEL, who had > suceeded his brother, Rev. Charles DANIEL, as pastor of the church at Lower > Fishing Creek. > > I note also that Thomas & Edmund and Charles' wife Amy witnessed the 1764 > will of Susannah Reed, formerly Susannah WEST (widow of Henry WEST) and Charles > was executoi of the will. > > So I guess the question is were there two Thomases or one Thomas that married > both ladies (RANDLE & BURNEY). I believe we may be getting somewhere on thia > thanks to your posting. > > Mike Daniel > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > >