Amelia LAMAR (ABT 1810-1870), sister of Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR, Sr. and President M. B. LAMAR of TX, married John S. RANDLE (1804-1850). He was the son of John RANDLE, Esq. and Susannah COFFEE of Greene County, GA. John RANDLE was the son of James RANDLE II and Rosanna GRAVES of Hancock County, GA, formerly. John's brother, William Graves RANDLE, married Sarah C. COLEMAN, d/o Eden COLEMAN and Nancy Ann DANIEL and she was the sister of Cynthia A. COLEMAN who married James Hunter RALLS of Greensboro and they were the grandparents of Mary Lou HUNTER who married my grand uncle, Charles W. RICHTER, Jr. of Madison. A little close, here but I knew these families were all close, including the LAMARS, KNIGHTS, NISBETS and others. John's daughter, Sophronia Ann Roseanna RANDLE, married Mark Anthony COOPER, son of Thomas COOPER, Jr. and Judith HARVEY and grandson of Thomas COOPER, Sr. and Sarah ANTHONY. The ANTHONYS are a family I look at occasionally. Thomas COOPER's sister, Penelope COOPER (b. 1775) married James NISBET (1768-1832) of Athens, Clarke County, GA. They, like all of this other bunch are close. One of their daughters married a LECONT boy from Liberty County, GA and another LeCONTE married a niece of this bunch. I think the John NISBET b. 1789 who married a Harriett COOPER and lived in Athens is also out of this bunch but I cannot assign him to a parent. I also think the BIRD family tied to the LAMARS and the BIRDS tied to this NISBET bunch are part of one in the same Hancock County, GA family...... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

John is correct, we have discussed the status of RLD's son Robert Daniel Jr., and the possibily that he could be the Robert C. Daniel born about 1765. I have no data on young Robert other than that he died young? There is a large time frame in this family for dates of birth for the children, say from 1740 to 1766, and there are too many "abouts" in this family as well. John also thinks that George Daniel, s/o RLD, married a daughter of Chisley Daniel from over in Middlesex. Does anyone have any information about Susan Daniel Hart the daughter of RLD? I wouldn't mind seeing some information that would help us solve some of these questions. Ya'll have a great weekend. My thought for the week is as follows: The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of it alive. -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 Payne

Payne, Part of this is right and part, not. All too many links in my bunch point back to Pitt but I have no confirmation that RCD (ABT 1765-AFT 1830) of Burke County, GA was out of this bunch. He could well have been a Coleman DANIEL, a Cunningham DANIEL, a Coffee-DANIEL, a Chaney DANIEL, a Charleston DANIELL or even an O'DANIEL. I just do not know. As for old George DANIEL who married Martha Julia DANIEL, we know he and Martha were 2nd cousins, which puts him in the family of Robert DANIEL and Margaret PRICE family of Middlesex. That's the only way they become 2nd cousins - their grandfathers were brothers, which tells me that George was out of the Robert DANIEL, Jr. and Elizabeth BEVERLY line out of Middlesex. I have stated this many times, before, but you are correct -- I once posed the possibility that this 1759 George could have been George DANIEL son of T&E, but shortly later abandoned this possibility as other information came forth on this George. Since, someone in a subsequent post said this George DANIEL was a son of Samuel DANIEL and Elizabeth THOMAS -- I'll buy that assignment because it matches all that we know about this George DANIEL and it does make him and Martha, second cousins, a prerequisite. So, regardless what you and others think about the EVANS affidavit, it was correct in this regard -- they were second cousins. I think a lot more in this affidavit was correct, too, as we have recently found out relating to Martha Julia's father, Chesley DANIEL, and from whom he descended. That said, I want to know a little bit more about this Martha THOMAS if anyone has any information on her since I have the THOMAS family tied into the RIVERS of Newton County, GA. All I know about the Rev. Edward Lloyd THOMAS, Sr. (1778-1852) family is that he was married to a Mary Stewart L. HOGUE. His father is listed as a Phillip THOMAS and her father a Jacob HOGUE. I also know that Mary's sister, Phoebe HOGUE married LT. James Daniel PARKS RS-VA (1756-1823) of PE, second, and they later migrated to Greene County, GA and brother, James HOGUE who married a DICKENS. I'll bet you cannot guess who James married, first? How about a SANKEY and what do you want to bet that SANKEY family is not the same SANLEY family tied to the Cunningham-Daniel bunch of PE and later, Greene County, GA. Get this, Mary PARKS (1748-1834), James's sister, married Robert HANNA and an Andrew HANNAH (1754-1793) married Ann CUNNINGHAM. Ann was the sister of the CUNNINGHAM girls that married the Kelso-Daniel boys out of Greene County, GA. I also know the PARKS family, a very early representative family of Morgan County, GA settled in Brownwood Community, Morgan County, GA around the McCOYS and BROWNS, as I remember. I will tell you this, after looking at this overall bunch and knowing who my DANIEL and RICHTER bunch were either close to or collateral with in Morgan County, GA, I could slide RCD of Burke right into one of these Cunningham DANIELS in a heart beat, especially since James Daniel PARKS, first a SANKEY and married, second, the sister of Mary Stewart L. HOGUE, second, who married Rev. THOMAS and the PARKS point right back to the CUNNINGHAMS. I am also beginning to reassess my assignment of Thomas DANIEL who married Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA and put him in the Kelso-Daniel bunch, somewhere....... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Robert Daniel Jr. > John is correct, we have discussed the status of RLD's son Robert Daniel > Jr., and the possibily that he could be the Robert C. Daniel born about > 1765. I have no data on young Robert other than that he died young? There is > a large time frame in this family for dates of birth for the children, say > from 1740 to 1766, and there are too many "abouts" in this family as well. > > John also thinks that George Daniel, s/o RLD, married a daughter of Chisley > Daniel from over in Middlesex. > > Does anyone have any information about Susan Daniel Hart the daughter of > RLD? > > I wouldn't mind seeing some information that would help us solve some of > these questions. > > Ya'll have a great weekend. My thought for the week is as follows: > > The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets > out of it alive. > -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 > > Payne > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > Mail Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > or- > Digest Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >

OK John, I just got in from a busy downtown trip so I will look this over and get back to you later. Cheers, Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Robert Daniel Jr. > Payne, > Part of this is right and part, not. All too many links in my bunch > point back to Pitt but I have no confirmation that RCD (ABT 1765-AFT 1830) > of Burke County, GA was out of this bunch. He could well have been a > Coleman DANIEL, a Cunningham DANIEL, a Coffee-DANIEL, a Chaney DANIEL, a > Charleston DANIELL or even an O'DANIEL. I just do not know. > As for old George DANIEL who married Martha Julia DANIEL, we know he and > Martha were 2nd cousins, which puts him in the family of Robert DANIEL and > Margaret PRICE family of Middlesex. That's the only way they become 2nd > cousins - their grandfathers were brothers, which tells me that George was > out of the Robert DANIEL, Jr. and Elizabeth BEVERLY line out of Middlesex. > I have stated this many times, before, but you are correct -- I once posed > the possibility that this 1759 George could have been George DANIEL son of > T&E, but shortly later abandoned this possibility as other information came > forth on this George. > Since, someone in a subsequent post said this George DANIEL was a son of > Samuel DANIEL and Elizabeth THOMAS -- I'll buy that assignment because it > matches all that we know about this George DANIEL and it does make him and > Martha, second cousins, a prerequisite. > So, regardless what you and others think about the EVANS affidavit, it > was correct in this regard -- they were second cousins. I think a lot more > in this affidavit was correct, too, as we have recently found out relating > to Martha Julia's father, Chesley DANIEL, and from whom he descended. > That said, I want to know a little bit more about this Martha THOMAS if > anyone has any information on her since I have the THOMAS family tied into > the RIVERS of Newton County, GA. All I know about the Rev. Edward Lloyd > THOMAS, Sr. (1778-1852) family is that he was married to a Mary Stewart L. > HOGUE. His father is listed as a Phillip THOMAS and her father a Jacob > HOGUE. > I also know that Mary's sister, Phoebe HOGUE married LT. James Daniel > PARKS RS-VA (1756-1823) of PE, second, and they later migrated to Greene > County, GA and brother, James HOGUE who married a DICKENS. I'll bet you > cannot guess who James married, first? How about a SANKEY and what do you > want to bet that SANKEY family is not the same SANLEY family tied to the > Cunningham-Daniel bunch of PE and later, Greene County, GA. > Get this, Mary PARKS (1748-1834), James's sister, married Robert HANNA > and an Andrew HANNAH (1754-1793) married Ann CUNNINGHAM. Ann was the sister > of the CUNNINGHAM girls that married the Kelso-Daniel boys out of Greene > County, GA. > I also know the PARKS family, a very early representative family of > Morgan County, GA settled in Brownwood Community, Morgan County, GA around > the McCOYS and BROWNS, as I remember. > I will tell you this, after looking at this overall bunch and knowing > who my DANIEL and RICHTER bunch were either close to or collateral with in > Morgan County, GA, I could slide RCD of Burke right into one of these > Cunningham DANIELS in a heart beat, especially since James Daniel PARKS, > first a SANKEY and married, second, the sister of Mary Stewart L. HOGUE, > second, who married Rev. THOMAS and the PARKS point right back to the > CUNNINGHAMS. > I am also beginning to reassess my assignment of Thomas DANIEL who > married Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA and put him in the Kelso-Daniel > bunch, somewhere....... > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 9:37 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Robert Daniel Jr. > > > > John is correct, we have discussed the status of RLD's son Robert Daniel > > Jr., and the possibily that he could be the Robert C. Daniel born about > > 1765. I have no data on young Robert other than that he died young? There > is > > a large time frame in this family for dates of birth for the children, say > > from 1740 to 1766, and there are too many "abouts" in this family as well. > > > > John also thinks that George Daniel, s/o RLD, married a daughter of > Chisley > > Daniel from over in Middlesex. > > > > Does anyone have any information about Susan Daniel Hart the daughter of > > RLD? > > > > I wouldn't mind seeing some information that would help us solve some of > > these questions. > > > > Ya'll have a great weekend. My thought for the week is as follows: > > > > The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets > > out of it alive. > > -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 > > > > Payne > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Evening John and Will, Will, in regard to Robert Daniel Jr., if he existed as a son of RLD, he may have indeed died at an early age. You are probably correct that he, Robert L. Daniel Jr., was a g-son of RLD, and a son of Thomas mentioned as Lot 5 of Bk CC, pg 65. Pitt County Records. ------------------------------------------------- JC<<I have no confirmation that RCD (ABT 1765-AFT 1830) of Burke County, GA was out of this bunch.<< OK, you have stated your position, "I Just don't know". In regard to George Daniel, thanks for clarifying your position. We agree on that one. The affidavit does mention that they were second cousins but basically the document is not a reliable evidence source. John, please let me know when there is proof that Captain Robert Lanier Daniel married a Cason gal. Sounds interesting when you follow the collateral time line. Thanks fellows for responding to my inquiry. I was looking for clarifications. Sleep tight all. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Robert Daniel Jr. > Payne, > Part of this is right and part, not. All too many links in my bunch > point back to Pitt but I have no confirmation that RCD (ABT 1765-AFT 1830) > of Burke County, GA was out of this bunch. He could well have been a > Coleman DANIEL, a Cunningham DANIEL, a Coffee-DANIEL, a Chaney DANIEL, a > Charleston DANIELL or even an O'DANIEL. I just do not know. > As for old George DANIEL who married Martha Julia DANIEL, we know he and > Martha were 2nd cousins, which puts him in the family of Robert DANIEL and > Margaret PRICE family of Middlesex. That's the only way they become 2nd > cousins - their grandfathers were brothers, which tells me that George was > out of the Robert DANIEL, Jr. and Elizabeth BEVERLY line out of Middlesex. > I have stated this many times, before, but you are correct -- I once posed > the possibility that this 1759 George could have been George DANIEL son of > T&E, but shortly later abandoned this possibility as other information came > forth on this George. > Since, someone in a subsequent post said this George DANIEL was a son of > Samuel DANIEL and Elizabeth THOMAS -- I'll buy that assignment because it > matches all that we know about this George DANIEL and it does make him and > Martha, second cousins, a prerequisite. > So, regardless what you and others think about the EVANS affidavit, it > was correct in this regard -- they were second cousins. I think a lot more > in this affidavit was correct, too, as we have recently found out relating > to Martha Julia's father, Chesley DANIEL, and from whom he descended. > That said, I want to know a little bit more about this Martha THOMAS if > anyone has any information on her since I have the THOMAS family tied into > the RIVERS of Newton County, GA. All I know about the Rev. Edward Lloyd > THOMAS, Sr. (1778-1852) family is that he was married to a Mary Stewart L. > HOGUE. His father is listed as a Phillip THOMAS and her father a Jacob > HOGUE. > I also know that Mary's sister, Phoebe HOGUE married LT. James Daniel > PARKS RS-VA (1756-1823) of PE, second, and they later migrated to Greene > County, GA and brother, James HOGUE who married a DICKENS. I'll bet you > cannot guess who James married, first? How about a SANKEY and what do you > want to bet that SANKEY family is not the same SANLEY family tied to the > Cunningham-Daniel bunch of PE and later, Greene County, GA. > Get this, Mary PARKS (1748-1834), James's sister, married Robert HANNA > and an Andrew HANNAH (1754-1793) married Ann CUNNINGHAM. Ann was the sister > of the CUNNINGHAM girls that married the Kelso-Daniel boys out of Greene > County, GA. > I also know the PARKS family, a very early representative family of > Morgan County, GA settled in Brownwood Community, Morgan County, GA around > the McCOYS and BROWNS, as I remember. > I will tell you this, after looking at this overall bunch and knowing > who my DANIEL and RICHTER bunch were either close to or collateral with in > Morgan County, GA, I could slide RCD of Burke right into one of these > Cunningham DANIELS in a heart beat, especially since James Daniel PARKS, > first a SANKEY and married, second, the sister of Mary Stewart L. HOGUE, > second, who married Rev. THOMAS and the PARKS point right back to the > CUNNINGHAMS. > I am also beginning to reassess my assignment of Thomas DANIEL who > married Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA and put him in the Kelso-Daniel > bunch, somewhere....... > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 9:37 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Robert Daniel Jr. > > > > John is correct, we have discussed the status of RLD's son Robert Daniel > > Jr., and the possibily that he could be the Robert C. Daniel born about > > 1765. I have no data on young Robert other than that he died young? There > is > > a large time frame in this family for dates of birth for the children, say > > from 1740 to 1766, and there are too many "abouts" in this family as well. > > > > John also thinks that George Daniel, s/o RLD, married a daughter of > Chisley > > Daniel from over in Middlesex. > > > > Does anyone have any information about Susan Daniel Hart the daughter of > > RLD? > > > > I wouldn't mind seeing some information that would help us solve some of > > these questions. > > > > Ya'll have a great weekend. My thought for the week is as follows: > > > > The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets > > out of it alive. > > -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 > > > > Payne > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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