John, I have a copy of that incident here somewhere. I will try to find it over the weekend and post the other names mentioned in the piece. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR and Sarah Williamson BIRD > Jack, > My bet is the William DANIEL of Savannah was Dr. William Coffee DANIEL > (1793-1868), husband of Martha SCREVEN (1801-1834), d/o Thomas Smith > SCREVEN, Jr. (1774-1833) and Martha Ann Susannah SMITH of Charleston, later > Savannah. William Coffee DANIEL was the son of Charles DANIEL and Elizabeth > COFFEE of Greene County, GA. > WCD and Martha had one child that I know of, a Benjamin Richard DANIEL > who married a Julia Ella JONES of Sabine Parish, LA and they lived in > Shreveport, LA. > I find it awful interesting that WCD's wife, Martha, died on 4 Feb 1834 > and LAMAR on 4 Jun 1834. Also, Martha's father died on 12 Jun 1833. I > wonder if her father was the minister and his death was followed by the > death of his daughter (Martha Screven DANIEL) in February 1834 and then by > LAMAR in June. > What was the name of the person this William DANIEL interceded with in > Senate on his behalf? That, will tell us who this William DANIEL was...... > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR and Sarah > Williamson BIRD > > > > John, Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus Lamar committed suicide in 1834. > A > > minister had been tried and convicted for the murder of his step-daughter, > > and Lamar sentenced him to death. > > > > Somehow, his case was brought before the Georgia Senate where a William > > Daniel of Savannah was one of the strongest proponents for the minister's > > innocence. (A note that was with the history that I read on this incident > > said that William Daniel had missed being President of the Senate by 2 > > votes). Anyway, William Daniel lost his argument for mercy, and the > > minister was hanged. > > > > In 1834, a man was on the gallows for another murder when he confessed to > > the murder for which the minister had been hanged. He gave sufficient > > detail to totally exonerate the pastor - too late to help. > > > > A couple of days later, Judge Lamar came home, kissed his wife and > children, > > walked out into his garden and shot himself to death. > > > > I saw no genealogical connection between William Daniel and Judge Lamar, > but > > it was an interesting coincidental connection. > > > > Jack > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:39 PM > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR and Sarah > > Williamson BIRD > > > > > > > Good Evening, > > > I do not think to ask if anyone had a DANIEL related to this LAMAR > or > > > BIRD families? > > > > > > Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR (1797-1834) died in > > > Milledgeville, Baldwin County, GA and his wife, Sarah Bird LAMAR, moved > to > > > Newton County, GA where I find Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS > living > > > with her in 1850. > > > Sarah was the d/o Thompson BIRD and Susannah WILLIAMSON of Powalter, > > > Hancock County, GA. The BIRDS were formerly of Cecil County, MD and the > > > WILLIAMSONS of Wilkes County, GA, formerly Buckingham County, VA. > > Susannah > > > was the d/o Col. Micajah WILLIAMSON RS-SC (1744-1796) and Sarah GILLIAM. > > > Sarah's sister, Nancy WILLIAMSON married Gov. John CLARKE, Esq. and her > > > brother, Charles WILLIAMSON. married Mary CLARKE, John's sister. John > and > > > Mary were the children of Gen. Eligah CLARKE and Hannah ARRINGTON of > > Wilkes > > > County, GA. > > > Judge LAMAR was the son of John LAMAR III and Rebecca LAMAR of > > > "Fairfield", Putnam County, Georgia and grandson of John LAMAR, II and > > Mary > > > Elizabeth BUGG of Columbia County, GA. The LAMARS were originally from > > > Queen Anne's Parish, Prince George's County, Maryland. > > > The reason I ask is because Professor RIVERS married my GGM, Mary > Jane > > > RENEAU in 1867 after the death of my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL,, Esq. of > > > Jefferson County, GA and I feel there is a good chance that RIVERS was > in > > > some what related to these LAMARS - in some way or another. > > > Judge LAMAR was originally buried in Riverside Cemetery, Macon, Ga > but > > > his body was moved in 1894 to St. Peter's Cemetery, Oxford, Lafayette > Co, > > > MS, home of the University of MS. > > > > > > If you have a DANIEL family with links to this bunch, I would like > to > > > hear about it. > > > > > > Short biography on Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR: > > > <<< > > > He was a student at Franklin College, University of Georgia. L.Q.C. > > studied > > > law in the office of Joel Crawford at Milledgeville in 1816 and at the > law > > > school, Litchfield, Conn, 1817-1818; and was admitted to the Georgia bar > > in > > > 1819 and settled in practice at Milledgeville.. He soon became > recognized > > as > > > an able and outstanding attorney. In 1821, he became a law partner with > > Joel > > > Crawford, his former instructor. In 1830, he was elevated to the bench > as > > > the youngest judge in the State of Georgia, and was soon recognized as > one > > > of the ablest judges of that early period. He also possessed unusual > > > literary culture. He revised Augustine S. Clayton's "Georgia Justice," > > > published in 1819 and was chosen by the legislature of Georgia to > compile > > > the laws of Georgia from 1810 to 1820, published in 1821. > > > > > > His tombstone says: > > > > > > "Sacred to the memory of Lucius Q. C. LAMAR, late Judge of the Superior > > > Court of the Okmulgee circuit, who during a brief service of five years > > > discharged the duties of that high office with probity, firmness, > > assiduity, > > > and unquestionable reputation. The devoted love of his family, the > ardent > > > attachment of personal friends, the admiration of the Bar, and the > > universal > > > approbation of his enlightened administration of justice, attest the > > > goodness and eminence of one arrested by death too early in the bright > and > > > useful career in which he had been place by his native State. Born July > > 15, > > > 1797. Died July 4, 1834." > > > >>> > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > > the subject of a reply message. > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Jack, As for the LAMARS, it has been said that the History of GA would have been considerably different without the LAMARS and I have never seen anything to dispute that statement. There are occasionally a few families whose influence on the history rises to a level as to completely overshadow most of their contemporaries and the "Lamar's of Georgia" were one of those families. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR and Sarah Williamson BIRD > John, I have a copy of that incident here somewhere. I will try to find it > over the weekend and post the other names mentioned in the piece. > > Jack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:47 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR and Sarah > Williamson BIRD > > > > Jack, > > My bet is the William DANIEL of Savannah was Dr. William Coffee DANIEL > > (1793-1868), husband of Martha SCREVEN (1801-1834), d/o Thomas Smith > > SCREVEN, Jr. (1774-1833) and Martha Ann Susannah SMITH of Charleston, > later > > Savannah. William Coffee DANIEL was the son of Charles DANIEL and > Elizabeth > > COFFEE of Greene County, GA. > > WCD and Martha had one child that I know of, a Benjamin Richard DANIEL > > who married a Julia Ella JONES of Sabine Parish, LA and they lived in > > Shreveport, LA. > > I find it awful interesting that WCD's wife, Martha, died on 4 Feb > 1834 > > and LAMAR on 4 Jun 1834. Also, Martha's father died on 12 Jun 1833. I > > wonder if her father was the minister and his death was followed by the > > death of his daughter (Martha Screven DANIEL) in February 1834 and then by > > LAMAR in June. > > What was the name of the person this William DANIEL interceded with in > > Senate on his behalf? That, will tell us who this William DANIEL > was...... > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR and Sarah > > Williamson BIRD > > > > > > > John, Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus Lamar committed suicide in > 1834. > > A > > > minister had been tried and convicted for the murder of his > step-daughter, > > > and Lamar sentenced him to death. > > > > > > Somehow, his case was brought before the Georgia Senate where a William > > > Daniel of Savannah was one of the strongest proponents for the > minister's > > > innocence. (A note that was with the history that I read on this > incident > > > said that William Daniel had missed being President of the Senate by 2 > > > votes). Anyway, William Daniel lost his argument for mercy, and the > > > minister was hanged. > > > > > > In 1834, a man was on the gallows for another murder when he confessed > to > > > the murder for which the minister had been hanged. He gave sufficient > > > detail to totally exonerate the pastor - too late to help. > > > > > > A couple of days later, Judge Lamar came home, kissed his wife and > > children, > > > walked out into his garden and shot himself to death. > > > > > > I saw no genealogical connection between William Daniel and Judge Lamar, > > but > > > it was an interesting coincidental connection. > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:39 PM > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR and Sarah > > > Williamson BIRD > > > > > > > > > > Good Evening, > > > > I do not think to ask if anyone had a DANIEL related to this LAMAR > > or > > > > BIRD families? > > > > > > > > Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR (1797-1834) died in > > > > Milledgeville, Baldwin County, GA and his wife, Sarah Bird LAMAR, > moved > > to > > > > Newton County, GA where I find Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS > > living > > > > with her in 1850. > > > > Sarah was the d/o Thompson BIRD and Susannah WILLIAMSON of > Powalter, > > > > Hancock County, GA. The BIRDS were formerly of Cecil County, MD and > the > > > > WILLIAMSONS of Wilkes County, GA, formerly Buckingham County, VA. > > > Susannah > > > > was the d/o Col. Micajah WILLIAMSON RS-SC (1744-1796) and Sarah > GILLIAM. > > > > Sarah's sister, Nancy WILLIAMSON married Gov. John CLARKE, Esq. and > her > > > > brother, Charles WILLIAMSON. married Mary CLARKE, John's sister. John > > and > > > > Mary were the children of Gen. Eligah CLARKE and Hannah ARRINGTON of > > > Wilkes > > > > County, GA. > > > > Judge LAMAR was the son of John LAMAR III and Rebecca LAMAR of > > > > "Fairfield", Putnam County, Georgia and grandson of John LAMAR, II and > > > Mary > > > > Elizabeth BUGG of Columbia County, GA. The LAMARS were originally > from > > > > Queen Anne's Parish, Prince George's County, Maryland. > > > > The reason I ask is because Professor RIVERS married my GGM, Mary > > Jane > > > > RENEAU in 1867 after the death of my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL,, Esq. of > > > > Jefferson County, GA and I feel there is a good chance that RIVERS was > > in > > > > some what related to these LAMARS - in some way or another. > > > > Judge LAMAR was originally buried in Riverside Cemetery, Macon, Ga > > but > > > > his body was moved in 1894 to St. Peter's Cemetery, Oxford, Lafayette > > Co, > > > > MS, home of the University of MS. > > > > > > > > If you have a DANIEL family with links to this bunch, I would like > > to > > > > hear about it. > > > > > > > > Short biography on Judge Lucius Quintus Cinncinatus LAMAR: > > > > <<< > > > > He was a student at Franklin College, University of Georgia. L.Q.C. > > > studied > > > > law in the office of Joel Crawford at Milledgeville in 1816 and at the > > law > > > > school, Litchfield, Conn, 1817-1818; and was admitted to the Georgia > bar > > > in > > > > 1819 and settled in practice at Milledgeville.. He soon became > > recognized > > > as > > > > an able and outstanding attorney. In 1821, he became a law partner > with > > > Joel > > > > Crawford, his former instructor. In 1830, he was elevated to the bench > > as > > > > the youngest judge in the State of Georgia, and was soon recognized as > > one > > > > of the ablest judges of that early period. He also possessed unusual > > > > literary culture. He revised Augustine S. Clayton's "Georgia Justice," > > > > published in 1819 and was chosen by the legislature of Georgia to > > compile > > > > the laws of Georgia from 1810 to 1820, published in 1821. > > > > > > > > His tombstone says: > > > > > > > > "Sacred to the memory of Lucius Q. C. LAMAR, late Judge of the > Superior > > > > Court of the Okmulgee circuit, who during a brief service of five > years > > > > discharged the duties of that high office with probity, firmness, > > > assiduity, > > > > and unquestionable reputation. The devoted love of his family, the > > ardent > > > > attachment of personal friends, the admiration of the Bar, and the > > > universal > > > > approbation of his enlightened administration of justice, attest the > > > > goodness and eminence of one arrested by death too early in the bright > > and > > > > useful career in which he had been place by his native State. Born > July > > > 15, > > > > 1797. Died July 4, 1834." > > > > >>> > > > > John R. Clarke > > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you > change > > > the subject of a reply message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > > > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > > > Mail Mode: > > > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > or- > > > Digest Mode: > > > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > >