Vickie, Joe e-mailed me after I sent him the posting I sent to Daniel-L. His 37 marker DNA should arrive tomorrow. I'm really excited! My nephew's 12 marker went out about the same time as Joe's 37 so Michael's should be arriving soon too. My line was Daniel but my grandfather, Charles Daniel added the s when he married Elizabeth "Lizzie" Clanton and that made all his children Daniels. The same thing happened to Joe Daniels. A Robert Daniel who has been corresponding with me on the Daniel-L has just done the 25 marker and thinks it will be back in a couple months. I believe you are right when you say you think the DNA will open doors for us. Just think how many people we can compare history of Daniel with and surely we will learn from which country in Europe our Daniel families originated. I'm going to do the DNA for Daniel and Crow. Crow is my mother's line. I know they want direct male testers but I think the female will tell me something....maybe that Nancy Mays was Cherokee. Keep in touch. Evelyn Daniels Hansson (I guess since Joe and I are 4th cousins you and I are too?)