Thank you for sharing that data, I will look into the two Daniel lines you mention and see if I can find anything? I would like your thoughts as to the Daniel families of Prince George county, VA,? Especiallly the John Daniel Sr. who seemed to migrate to Henry county, VA, I think he was a carpenter? If my memory servers me correctly, but I could be mistaken, My brain has failed me more often than once? LOL, They were supposeldy immigrants from England, this line to me is epecially hard to trace regarding the Henry county, VA. connections. "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> wrote: Vicki, There are only two DANIEL family that come out of SC, to my knowledge. The Robert DANIELL family of Charleston and the John DANIEL the Shipwright family, also of Charleston. I would not bet against these two being related, either. I have seen that Barzilla DANIEL information, before but never could get a handle on it. I know the name, Barzilla, is tied to the CROWELL family of Martha's Vineyard, MA and the DUNHAMS and the CROWELLS were tied, together in MA. We know there were lots of New England folks down in the Charleston area and I would not bet against the Samuel ADAMS family being one of them. Gov. James MOORE of SC stated his sister, Dolly, was married to a CLARK in Boston and we know that one of Samuel ADAMS boys died in Barbados. Most of these early SC folks belonged to mariner families and they had links all over the place - England, the islands, New England and VA, as well as coastal NC. The problem we have today is -- a lot of these folks moved south to be with other members of their original family who had stayed in VA, NC or SC and we now think they came from where they later migrated to and such was not the case. I know the POTTERS and TILTONS were New England families and they moved from New England, through New York and down to the NJ area and I will bet, south from there. I know my maternal DAMES (who were from Newington, RI) and WEEKS (from Falmouth, Barnstable County, MA), also did, just that from the same area. I also know that Col. Ebenezer FOLSOM of Edgecombe County, NC who married one of the DANIEL girls in NC was from Ashford, Windham County, Connecticut. What I find interesting in this return address is that my wife's GROSVENOR family was from Pomfret, Windham County, CT and she is an ADAMS descendant of Boston. All of these First Families of the United States, and all of these families I have mentioned fall into this category, had links all up an down the Atlantic Seaboard. Mrs. Barbara Pierce BUSH is a descendant of this WEEKS family of Falmouth and her husband, George, is a GROSVENOR descendant, through the PRESCOTTS. .Mrs. BUSH's PIERCE line is out of Capt. Benjamin PIERCE and another of his descendants marry right into my Richter-Daniel bunch in Madison, GA in 1900. I think what happened is cousins or siblings moved to different places in the colonies where they married, raised their chillen and these chillen or their grand chillen married right back into the families of these original cousins or siblings. Now, several hundred years or so later we now think these parents families were different families and they were not. There is one thing you have to always remember in most marriages before the RW -- they more often than not married family even if they had to go a long way to get them, even back to England, Scotland or Ireland. As in my case, besides all of the VA and NC links I have in my bunch, I have links to New England, New Jersey, Charleston (a lot) and the islands. I think there is some rhyme and reason for these links, too. This was not an Ellis Island crowd. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Lomon" To: Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Steven Jeffreys, Indian suit against John Daniel, North Hampton, 1755, Also Indian Jeffreys > You could be correct in your assumption of Reuben Daniel, The Pendiltion > District keeps my eyes open upon the fact that John Daniel, Jeremiah > Daniel, Basil Daniel were the as well, or they were in Pendilton District > 1790 on the census. The St. Croix bunch you refer to? Barzilla Daniel if I > remember correctly was there much early than those mentioned about, but > could be related. As the your Wyche family, I know nothing of them, I just > posted what a lady had found in her research in South Carolina, she was > looking of her indian heritage, I do know that the Haliwa indian tribe in > Warren and Halifax county, NC. do have the family surname of Daneil tied > to there tribe in the 1700's and later, Their Daniel line came out of > South Carolina into North Carolina and some of them went to Virginia and > Tennessee. The geneaolgist there in the tribe won't tell you all the > Daniel members, you have to find them on Deeds in North Carolina > especially Halifax and Warren and then send you family ! > outline > and if you connect they will help fill in the blanks. The Orange county, > Owacaneechi Tribe some of the Jeffres are of color, also called sometimes > Brass Ankles. I would like to know who this John Daniel of North Hampton > is? Do you have any idea? Thanks Vickie > "John R. Clarke" wrote:Good Morning, > I know quite a bit about the Henry WYCHE (1738-1806) and Frances BREWER > family of Greenville County, VA. His father was Peter WYCHE and his mother > an Ann SCOTT. > i.. Peter WYCHE (B. ABT 1762) married Judith CLARK, d/o Christopher > CLARK and Millicent TERRELL of Albemarle County, VA, later, Wilkes and > Elbert County, GA. The CLARKS descend from Capt. Christopher CLARK and > Penelope BOLLING, granddaughter of the Earl of Shaftsbury. > ii. William WYCHE married Elizabeth MALONE > iii. Rebecca WYCHE (ABT 1768-1829) married David WALTON, s/o the Hon. > Isaac Rowe WALTON, Esq. and Elizabeth LEDBETTER of Meherin Parish, > Brunswick County, VA. David and Rebecca later migrated to Huntsville, > Madison County, AL. > iv. Sarah "Sally" WYCHE married Gary SILLS and they stayed in the > Greenville County, VA area according to my information. > v. George WYCHE married Agatha CLARK, d/o Christopher CLARK and > Millicent TERRELL and sister of Judith who married Peter WYCHE. > vi. Tilly WYCHE married Benjamin H. WALKER > vii. Henry WYCHE, Jr. married Elizabeth WALTON, d/o Isaac Rowe WALTON > and Elizabeth LEDBETTER and sister of David who married Rebecca WYCHE. > > The RICHTER family of Madison, Morgan County, GA has a portrait of > Rebecca Wyche WALTON (1768-1829) painted in the early years of the 19th > Century and I will assure you, she is not "of color." The reason they have > this portrait is because her great granddaughter, Sally WALTON > (1871-1899), > married Charles Woodruff RICHTER, Sr. in 1889. Sally's mother was a WINSOR > and her father, David Anderson WALTON of Bolingbroke, Bibb County, GA and > her grandparents were Henry Wyche WALTON and Louisiana Peterson REDDING, > also of Bolingbroke, Bibb County, GA. > Another branch of this WYCHE family were Henry, Sr.'s brothers, Col. > George WYCHE, II who married Patience CLARK, a descendant of this same > Capt. > Christopher CLARK family. George and his children moved to Richmond > County, > GA and some of their children moved to Thomas and Decatur County, GA where > they tie into the RAINES, MITCHELLS, RAIFORDS, etc. The WYCHES descend > from > Gentleman George WYCHE I (1685-1757) and Sarah of Surry County, VA. > > This intrigued me in your message. > << > Feb. 13, p304 John West Indian, son of Reuben, age 12 March next bound to > James Williams to learn trade of house joiner. > << > > We know that Reuben DANIEL was in the Pendleton District, SC area, don't > we? > What surprised me was the "West Indian" description tied to this DANIEL > boy. > West Indian usually meant, someone from Barbados, St. Martin, St. Croix, > etc. > > We also know that others have said this Reuben DANIEL bunch were from VA. > As I remember, they were out of the Woodson-DANIEL bunch or one of those > lines out of York County, VA. What is interesting is there was a John > DANIEL and Alice of Barbados. > > Maybe someone else has some thoughts. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vickie Lomon" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 3:54 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Steven Jeffreys, Indian suit against John Daniel, > North > Hampton, 1755, Also Indian Jeffreys > > >> >> A lady posted this information on the Pendilton county, South Carolina >> district mailing list. It caught my attention when I saw the name John >> Daniel. Here is what she posted? >> >> I was researching NC & SC lost the first half but here is what I found >> after moving: >> >> p400 8 March 1757 John Daniel vs Solomon Jeffery Indians >> >> Mary Jeffery wife of Solomon Jeffery Indians 10 May 1774 p269 >> >> Thomas Fisherman Indian, Dec. 14-Sept 1774... >> >> Feb. 13, p304 John West Indian, son of Reuben, age 12 March next bound >> to James Williams to learn trade of house joiner. >> >> Prince George County Court Records >> >> 25 Nov. 1719 (King George Co.) p719 >> Henry Barnes kept Indian child 9 months >> >> Joan Kennedy Indian, 2 years and 4 months to serve Wm Pettsworth etc >> until 21.... >> >> March Court p413 1729 >> Thomas Indian pet... re Eleanor Addison see p139 for the rest. pet's >> mother was >> Indian see p201 reference Thomas's family also see p304. >> >> this is all i have, i know nothing about these people as none are my >> ancestors. >> >> Then I found this, this family is not to be confused with Simon and >> Osborne Jeffreys of Franklin, NC. If I remember correctly, this Orange >> county, NC Jeffreys are from the Owacaneechi Tribe of Haliwa Indians. >> This Parker Jeffries wasn't a person of color, he did descend from the >> Haliwa Indian tribe. Also it mentions a Stephen Jeffres bringing suit >> against a John Daniel. >> >> 1. The trustees of Zenia Township denied Parker Jeffries the right to >> vote because he was a "person of color." He sued them in court and >> provided depositions from witnesses who had been neighbors of the >> Jeffries >> family in Greensville County in order to prove that he was white and >> Indian. Sally Robinson deposed that Sally Jeffries "claimed to be of >> White >> and Indian and I never heard anything to the contrary." Henry Wyche >> deposed that he believed Andrew Jeffries was "of Indian and White" >> (blood). Susan Wooten deposed that she grew up near the family where they >> lived in Greensville County. (She was probably married to or a member of >> the mixed-race Wooten family who lived just across the state line in >> Northampton County, North Carolina). Parker lost his case in the local >> court but won his appeal to the supreme court of Ohio which ruled that: >> There have been, even in this state, since its organization, many persons >> of the precise breed of this plaintiff, I mean the offspring o! >> f whites >> and half-breed Indians, who have exercised political privileges and >> filled >> offices, and worthily discharged the duties of officers. One such is now >> a >> clerk of this court, and two are now members of this bar. In 1831 in the >> case of Polly Gray v. State of Ohio, 4 Ohio, 354, and in 1833, in the >> case >> of Williamson v. School Directors, etc., Wright, 178, it was held that, >> in >> the constitution, and the laws on this subject, there were enumerated >> three descriptions of persons--whites, blacks and mulattoes--upon the two >> last of whom disabilities rested; that the mulatto was the middle term >> between the extremes, or the offspring of white and black; that all >> nearer >> white than black, or of the grade between the mulattoes and the whites, >> were entitled to enjoy every political and social privilege of the white >> citizen [Edwin M. Stanton, Reporter, Reports of Cases Argued and >> Determined in the Supreme Court of Ohio (1873), XI:318-21 >> >> >> >> >> >> JEFFERY FAMILY >> >> Members of the Jeffery family were >> >> i. Elizabeth, born say 1700, an Indian living in Northampton County, >> Virginia, on 12 January 1730/1 when she petitioned the court to order her >> former husband Thomas Fisherman, also an Indian, to return a mare and >> horse which were her property before their marriage [Orders 1729-32, 68; >> Mihalyka, Loose Papers I:237]. >> >> ii. Thomas, born say 1710, an Indian sued on 14 July 1736 in Northampton >> County, Virginia, by William Satchell for a debt of 500 pounds of tobacco >> [Orders 1732-42, 224]. He was tithable in Northampton County in 1744 >> adjoining Joseph Jeffery [Bell, Northampton County Tithables, 357]. He >> was >> allowed 200 pounds from the county levy on 2 November 1747 [Orders >> 1742-8]. >> >> 1 iii. Mary, born say 1710. >> >> >> >> 1. Mary Jeffery, born say 1710, died before 9 March 1773 when Daniel >> Eshon was granted administration on her Northampton County estate >> [Minutes >> 1771-7, 192]. Her inventory totaled 177 pounds, and included 45 pounds >> cash on hand, butter, hog fat, good pewter, knives and forks, 10 hoes, 3 >> plows, 30 cattle, 18 pigs, 22 hogs, 2 sheep, 22 barrels of corn, 3 >> horses, >> 6 ducks, 3 geese, 4 turkeys, and potato seed. Solomon Jeffery, Rachel >> Jeffery, Mary Jeffery, Thomas Fisherman, Mary Fisherman, Thomas Pool, and >> Abraham Lang were buyers at the sale of the estate. The account of the >> sales totaled 196 pounds and included a cart and wheels, beds, furniture >> and linen wheels. About 23 pounds was distributed to seven unnamed >> children [W&I 25:167-9, 262-6]. Mary was probably farming land on the >> Gingaskin reservation. She may have been the mother of >> >> i. Stephen, born say 1729, an Indian sued by an Indian named John Daniel >> in a suit that was agreed in Northampton County on 11 March 1755 [Orders >> 1753-8, 199]. >> >> ii. Solomon1, born say 1731, sued by William Teague on 15 December 1752 >> for trespass, assault and battery. He was called an Indian when he was >> sued for trespass, assault and battery by another Indian named John >> Daniel >> on 8 March 1757. George Powell sued him for a 1 pound, 7 shilling debt on >> 15 February 1758. On 14 July 1762 his wife Mary Jeffery ("Indian") took >> the oath of the peace against him and he was ordered to post 20 pounds >> security for his good behavior towards her [Orders 1751-3, 210; 1753-8, >> 400, 406, 482; Minutes 1761-5, 35]. He bought twenty-three items at the 8 >> February 1774 sale of Mary Jeffery's estate, including pigs and three >> harrow hoes. >> >> iii. Rachel, taxable on a horse in Northampton County in 1800 [Personal >> Property Tax List, p.15]. >> >> iv. Joseph, tithable in Northampton County in 1744 [Bell, Northampton >> County Tithables, 357]. He was sued by Peter Hogg for debt on 11 >> September >> 1750 [Orders 1748-51, 270]. The court bound out his son Jesse Jeffery to >> Adiah Milby to be a marriner on 11 August 1773 [Minutes 1771-7, 156]. >> >> v. Thomas2, bound to William Wood on 10 August 1773 [Minutes 1771-7, >> 151]. >> >> >> >> They were the ancestors of >> >> i. Solomon2, born say 1767, married Tinsey Jacob, 16 January 1788 >> Northampton County bond, William Satchell, Jr., security. Tincy Jeffery >> was a "N"(egro) counted in Northampton County in 1813 [Waldrep, 1813 Tax >> List]. >> >> ii. William, married Polly Bingham, 26 January 1803 Northampton County >> bond, Samuel Beavans security. >> >> iii. Littleton, married Nancy Collins, 18 September 1810 Northampton >> County bond, James Jacob security. In 1813 he was an Indian living in >> Indian Town (the former Gingaskin reservation land) in 1813 with a "free >> negro" woman in his household [Waldrep, 1813 Tax List]. >> >> iv. Sophia, married Thomas Carter, 7 December 1803 Northampton County >> bond, Peter Toyer security. Sophia Carter was a "Negro" living in Indian >> Town (the former Gingaskin reservation land) in 1813 [Waldrep, 1813 Tax >> List]. >> >> v. Polly, married Nathan Drighouse (Driggers), 24 July 1810 Northampton >> County bond, Abraham Lang security. Nathan was a "Negro" living in Indian >> Town in 1813 [Waldrep, 1813 Tax List]. >> >> >> >> JEFFRIES FAMILY >> >> 1. John1 Jeffries, born say 1670, was a "Negroe man" belonging to >> Captain Robert Randall on 5 July 1698 when Randall brought him before the >> Surry County court to declare him a free man [DW 5:157; Haun, Surry >> County >> Court Records, V:211]. He was probably the "John Negroe" for whom Captain >> Randall was taxable in 1698. He was taxable in his own household in Surry >> County from 1699 to 1703 near William Sweat [Magazine of Virginia >> Genealogy vol.24, no.2, 69, 75, 83; no.3, 69, 72; DW 5:289]. He and >> William Sweat produced accounts against the public for fifty pounds of >> tobacco in Surry County court on 21 October 1713 [Orders 1713-18, 14]. On >> 18 February 1722 he received a patent for 100 acres in Surry County on >> the >> south side of Blackwater Swamp and north side of Seacock Swamp and >> another >> 70 acres adjoining this land and Richard Fitzpatrick on 30 August 1743 >> [Patents 11:188; 21:508]. He was called John Jeffries, Sr., in his 3 >> November 1746 Albemarle Parish, Surry County, will, re! >> corded 16 >> June 1752, which named his daughter Martha Jeffries as executrix and gave >> her his land on Seacock Swamp. He also mentioned his daughter Mary >> Powell, >> left a gun to his grandson John Jeffreys and left his clothes to his >> grandson Benjamin Tan. If his daughter Martha died without heirs, the >> land >> was to pass to his grandson John Jeffrys [DW&c 1738-54, 798]. His >> children >> were >> >> i. Martha. >> >> 2 ii. John2, Jr., born say 1690. >> >> iii. Mary Powell (wife of Stephen Powell). >> >> iv. a daughter, wife of Anthony Tann who died before 20 February 1744 >> when >> the Surry County court ordered the churchwardens of Albemarle Parish to >> bind out his son Benjamin Tann [Orders 1744-49, 11, 22]. >> >> >> >> 2. John2 Jeffries, Jr., born say 1690, was called John Jeffries "the >> Younger" on 14 December 1712 when he purchased 128 acres on the south >> side >> of Blackwater Swamp bounded by the College Line in Surry County [DW&c >> 6:127]. (His wife?) Elizabeth Jeffers died 16 August 1745, and he died on >> 14 January 1745/6 (informant John Jeffers) [Albemarle Parish, Surry and >> Sussex County, Parish Register 1739-1778, 161]. By his 24 December 1745 >> Surry County will, proved 19 March 1745/6, he left all his land on the >> north east side of Clift and Tar Kiln Branches and the College Plantation >> to his son Joseph and named his other children: Richard, John, Lucy, and >> Rebecca. Joseph was to care for his brother Richard until he reached >> twenty-one years of age. He allowed his unnamed father the use of the >> land >> he was living on until his death when it was to pass to his son John >> [DW&c >> 1738-54, 523]. His children were >> >> 3 i. Joseph, born say 1715. >> >> ii. Lucy. >> >> 4 iii. John4, born say 1720. >> >> iv. Rebecca, born 13 March 1728/9, daughter of John Jeffries, Jr., and >> Eliza. his wife. >> >> v. Richard, born 26 August 1732, son of John Jeffries, Jr., and his wife >> Eliza. >> >> vi. __ne (Anne), born 6 May 1738, daughter of John Jeffries, Jr., and >> Eliza his wife [Albemarle Parish, Surry and Sussex County Parish Register >> 1739-1778, part 1, 7, 38]. >> >> >> >> 3. Joseph Jeffries, born say 1715, received land on the northeast side >> of Clift and Tar Kiln Branches as well as the "College Plantation" by his >> father's 19 March 1745/6 Surry County will. He was also to care for his >> younger brother Richard who was not yet twenty-one years old [DW&c >> 1738-54, 798]. He sold 100 acres on the south side of Blackwater Swamp in >> Surry County, Virginia, on 10 September 1747 [DB 5:124]. He returned an >> account of his father's estate to November 1747 Surry County court, but >> in >> March 1747/8 Thomas Alsobrook and John Anderson, his securities, >> complained to the court of his "ill conduct" and the court ordered him to >> deliver up the estate to them or provide the security bond himself >> [Orders >> 1744-9, 233-4]. He may have been the Joseph Jeffries who was sued in >> Brunswick County, Virginia court by Peter Cumbo in June 1749. The suit >> was >> dismissed when both parties failed to appear [Orders 1743-49, 523]. In >> July 1749 the Surry County court awarded him four po! >> unds >> damages in his suit for trespass against James Winkles [Orders 1749-51, >> 597]. He was a taxable head of household with (his brother?) 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