Vickie, I am going to tell you what this looks like to me -- the wanderings of the PONDERS, PATTERSONS, BENNETTS and BLACKS. Their researchers may not have it exactly right but they say they started out in the Baltimore, MD area and migrated through Augusta County, VA to York County, SC. Several of the PONDER boys migrated to Wilkes County, GA but one, Daniel, Jr. (the Tory) migrated to Buncombe County, NC. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Lomon" <vlomon@yahoo.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] John Daniel who married Hannah Grange and thier children, Does anyone reconize the names? > Ok, to answer you question about Basil Daniel, yes he is the same Basil > Daniel you refer to. As far as we know, Basil Daniel was in the Pendilton > District, 1800, along with a Jeremiah Daniel and others, I will have to go > back to my records and look at them. Basil Daniel was living as an > ex-resident on Buncombe county, NC 1805, then he migrated to Davidson > county, TN. He was also part of Captain McCormick's Militia, he left TN. > to migrate to Shelby county, Illinois and then he migrated to Carroll > county, ARk. where he died about 1843 from what I can figure. > Pertaining to Hannah Grainge and John Daniel, this is not my direct > line, I believe Dottie's line, and she have done very extensive research > on this whole Daniel bunch. And I do think she correct with all the Data > she has and based upon the Greenlee connections, I don't think she wrong? > But anything is possible> I will email her and ask her for her thoughts. > You mentioned Captain Allen Daniel, Prince George county, VA. I would like > to know more about this man and his family? I do think we come from the > Prince George Daniel bunch, as Payne has them listed as the Immigrant > Daniel line on his homepage. You could be correct as to his line possibly > matching our DNA. It would be fascinating to find a descendant of this > line to be tested. Vic > > "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> wrote: > Vickie, > It is just hard for me to imagine one of these DANIELL boys from > Brunswick County, NC moving to VA but I guess anything is possible. > However, that is not a normal migration pattern. > However, the BIDDLE name you listed did catch my attention. Mary > "Polly" BIDDLE born ABT 1770 married Harrison WATTS and then, Col. Rene > FITZPATRICK of Goochland County, VA. Rene also married a Mildred MAHONE > and > my note on Rene is that he died in Karnack, Texas. The FITZPATRICKS were > of > Goochland and some of them migrate to Greene and Morgan County, GA, > Col. Rene FITZPATRICK b. ABT 1785 was a son of Joseph FITZPATRICK, Jr, > who was a brother of Capt. Benjamin FITZPATRICK (1745-1821) who moved to > Greene and his descendants, later to Morgan. I generally do not associate > this family with any DANIEL family, except the ones that would be around > the > WOODSONS and surely not the DANIELL family of Charleston. > I do not have the will of Stephen Bedon DANIELL of Brunswick County, NC. > He is one of the few question marks I have about this bunch. Since Stephen > was the son of John DANIELL and Sarah RAVEN of Brunswick County, NC one > would expect him to have a son named, John, such were the naming patterns > of > the day. > Do you have any wills, deeds, or other primary source records > substantiating that this Hannah was the Hannah GRANGE who married John > DANIEL in Brunswick County, NC or did some earlier researcher just match > up > the name, John and Hannah, and match it to the marriage of the first John > and Hannah they could find that reasonably matched the time frame of their > marriage? This, has happened all too many times. > I will look to see if I can find the will of Stephen Bedon DANIEL and > see what I can find. We know that Stephen Bedon DANIELL is named in his > father's will by his full name, so we know who this fellow was. > Was there also not a Basil DANIEL who came out of SC at some point? Is > that the same Basil DANIEL that is related to your bunch? > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vickie Lomon" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:24 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] John Daniel who married Hannah Grange and thier > children, Does anyone reconize the names? > > >> John Daniel married to Hannah Grange in Brunswick Co., NC. John died >> before 1880. In 1880 census Hannah lived with Elizabeth born 1822. >> >> I have Joseph Daniel married to Levisa Greenlee 1838 Grainger Co., >> (daughter of John and Elizabeth Greenlee) died in 8/29/1897 in Larel >> Bridge, Ky. Joseph died in Pineville, Ky. I have this Joseph, son of >> John and Hannah. My Joseph (Betty's line) (Edward's son) married Rebecca >> Hodges. >> >> Also children of John and Hannah: >> >> Susannah born 1819 married Levi Biddle in 7/9/1853) >> Elizabeth born 1823 >> William born 1825 married Mary J. Cameron on 9/30/1852 >> Their children: Issac 1854 >> Sarah A. 1855 >> Elisa 1853 >> Hannahg 1859 >> John 1861 >> William 1865 >> >> this information collaborates the info in the Greenlee letter where it >> says Hannah and Elizabeth were living together on James Sunderland's >> place. That Hannah must have been the Mother Hannah. We originally >> thought it may have been a sister of Elizabeth. >> >> >> >> >> ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== >> Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Hum, I will keep that in mind, but one thing, I don't have Ponders, Patterson or the Black surnames in my line at all? The only Buncombe connection is Basil Daniel was an ex-resident in 1805. These surnames aren't connected to me at all? The Bennetts are, but they are from my Hill side, if I remember correctly, Green Hill Sr. married a Bennett? Vickie "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> wrote:Vickie, I am going to tell you what this looks like to me -- the wanderings of the PONDERS, PATTERSONS, BENNETTS and BLACKS. Their researchers may not have it exactly right but they say they started out in the Baltimore, MD area and migrated through Augusta County, VA to York County, SC. Several of the PONDER boys migrated to Wilkes County, GA but one, Daniel, Jr. (the Tory) migrated to Buncombe County, NC. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Lomon" To: Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] John Daniel who married Hannah Grange and thier children, Does anyone reconize the names? > Ok, to answer you question about Basil Daniel, yes he is the same Basil > Daniel you refer to. As far as we know, Basil Daniel was in the Pendilton > District, 1800, along with a Jeremiah Daniel and others, I will have to go > back to my records and look at them. Basil Daniel was living as an > ex-resident on Buncombe county, NC 1805, then he migrated to Davidson > county, TN. He was also part of Captain McCormick's Militia, he left TN. > to migrate to Shelby county, Illinois and then he migrated to Carroll > county, ARk. where he died about 1843 from what I can figure. > Pertaining to Hannah Grainge and John Daniel, this is not my direct > line, I believe Dottie's line, and she have done very extensive research > on this whole Daniel bunch. And I do think she correct with all the Data > she has and based upon the Greenlee connections, I don't think she wrong? > But anything is possible> I will email her and ask her for her thoughts. > You mentioned Captain Allen Daniel, Prince George county, VA. I would like > to know more about this man and his family? I do think we come from the > Prince George Daniel bunch, as Payne has them listed as the Immigrant > Daniel line on his homepage. You could be correct as to his line possibly > matching our DNA. It would be fascinating to find a descendant of this > line to be tested. Vic > > "John R. Clarke" wrote: > Vickie, > It is just hard for me to imagine one of these DANIELL boys from > Brunswick County, NC moving to VA but I guess anything is possible. > However, that is not a normal migration pattern. > However, the BIDDLE name you listed did catch my attention. Mary > "Polly" BIDDLE born ABT 1770 married Harrison WATTS and then, Col. Rene > FITZPATRICK of Goochland County, VA. Rene also married a Mildred MAHONE > and > my note on Rene is that he died in Karnack, Texas. The FITZPATRICKS were > of > Goochland and some of them migrate to Greene and Morgan County, GA, > Col. Rene FITZPATRICK b. ABT 1785 was a son of Joseph FITZPATRICK, Jr, > who was a brother of Capt. Benjamin FITZPATRICK (1745-1821) who moved to > Greene and his descendants, later to Morgan. I generally do not associate > this family with any DANIEL family, except the ones that would be around > the > WOODSONS and surely not the DANIELL family of Charleston. > I do not have the will of Stephen Bedon DANIELL of Brunswick County, NC. > He is one of the few question marks I have about this bunch. Since Stephen > was the son of John DANIELL and Sarah RAVEN of Brunswick County, NC one > would expect him to have a son named, John, such were the naming patterns > of > the day. > Do you have any wills, deeds, or other primary source records > substantiating that this Hannah was the Hannah GRANGE who married John > DANIEL in Brunswick County, NC or did some earlier researcher just match > up > the name, John and Hannah, and match it to the marriage of the first John > and Hannah they could find that reasonably matched the time frame of their > marriage? This, has happened all too many times. > I will look to see if I can find the will of Stephen Bedon DANIEL and > see what I can find. We know that Stephen Bedon DANIELL is named in his > father's will by his full name, so we know who this fellow was. > Was there also not a Basil DANIEL who came out of SC at some point? Is > that the same Basil DANIEL that is related to your bunch? > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vickie Lomon" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:24 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] John Daniel who married Hannah Grange and thier > children, Does anyone reconize the names? > > >> John Daniel married to Hannah Grange in Brunswick Co., NC. John died >> before 1880. In 1880 census Hannah lived with Elizabeth born 1822. >> >> I have Joseph Daniel married to Levisa Greenlee 1838 Grainger Co., >> (daughter of John and Elizabeth Greenlee) died in 8/29/1897 in Larel >> Bridge, Ky. Joseph died in Pineville, Ky. I have this Joseph, son of >> John and Hannah. My Joseph (Betty's line) (Edward's son) married Rebecca >> Hodges. >> >> Also children of John and Hannah: >> >> Susannah born 1819 married Levi Biddle in 7/9/1853) >> Elizabeth born 1823 >> William born 1825 married Mary J. Cameron on 9/30/1852 >> Their children: Issac 1854 >> Sarah A. 1855 >> Elisa 1853 >> Hannahg 1859 >> John 1861 >> William 1865 >> >> this information collaborates the info in the Greenlee letter where it >> says Hannah and Elizabeth were living together on James Sunderland's >> place. That Hannah must have been the Mother Hannah. We originally >> thought it may have been a sister of Elizabeth. >> >> >> >> >> ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== >> Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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