From Joe Daniel/Daniels to Evelyn Daniel/Daniels Hansson: Hello Cuz. I am supposed to get my results on the 37 marker test tomorrow. They have taken a long time. On Mr. Clarke, if you have been following emails he does not have a clue about our line. His statement about the Mayes family shows that. I would think that if he questions some ones line with the apples and oranges thing he should back up his remarks with FACTS. As you know we have plenty of documentation for the following families: Mayes, Hodges, Greenlee and Lacey. We have not been able to take our Edward Daniel Sr. and his parents or the surname of his wife Anna. We have through DNA to Basil Daniel and another one for Edward Daniel. I wish more people would do the DNA so that all of us might get over our "Brick Walls." Joe Daniels This from Evelyn Daniels Hansson: Through Joe's DNA, 12, 15 and 37 markers we have matched with 10 other persons who have done the test. My nephew, Michael Daniels, son of my deceased brother, Ray Daniels has taken the 12 marker and should receive the results any day. When these results arrive they will be posted to the DANIEL DNA site and it would show again the matches for all the previous men who have been tested. These matches are through our Edward Daniel, Sr. line. We do hope some Daniel men from other lines will take the DNA test. We believe the DNA testing is, at this time, the best way to learn of our ancestors and the most positive way with no doubts of its accuracy! I do have documented information for some of my DANIEL spouses, however I can't learn anything about my great-grandmother, Nancy MAYS who was born in Kentucky in 1845. I don't know which county in Kentucky her family were living in at the time she was born. I welcome any information about Nancy MAYS Daniel.

Joe, I have 17 HODGES in my database and everyone of them are from Eastern NC or Georgia in the post 1750 time frame. I have the one MAYS in my data base and I listed that to Vickie but I have lots of MAY, MAYO and MOYE families in my current 46.078 person database. I carry just one LACY and they were out of Goochland County, VA but I think there were some more tied to one or more of the VA lines. There are some DANIEL families I know pretty well and some that I do not. There are some DANIEL collateral families that I have lots of data on and some that I do not. Most of my data relates to families of NC, VA, SC and Georgia, which is the primary location of most members of the DANIEL family, then and now. When Vickie asked me my two bits on her collateral names, I told her that it sounded like "apples and oranges" to me. This is "not that it was" apples and oranges, only that it sounded like that to me, because I had no collateral information that tended to show a known blend in the names she listed. When someone throws in a IL, OH or IN line into this equation, I can only give them my best opinion on the names they list, as I did Vickie. "Genealogical research is not personal, even though some tend to make it so." Genealogical research is primarily historical research and all historians have disagreements, as relates to certain historical events, primary source documents and even the interpretation of those documents and events. If history were written according to the same standards that some family histories have been written, then history books would be found in the fiction section at your local book store or library, history books would indicate the South actually won the Civil War and others would indicate we are still a part of the English Empire. Thank God, historians have generally held their works to loftier standards, although a lot of the recent "revisionist stuff" would probably be better suited in the fiction instead of non-fiction section of your local book store or library. Most family history books have been written with primarily one concept in mind -- "marketability." County and other local history books have also been generally written with the same profit motive in mind. Have you ever noticed the correlation between the names of the subscribers to these local histories and the names of the families actually covered in these works? They are almost 1:1. Huxford did much the same thing in his POWG series, which covered families in the Wire Grass area of Southern Georgia. I like to look at works, like this, for what they really are -- "paid advertisements" and there was then no "truth in advertising statues" covering the accuracy of such works in those days. <grin> Now, we accept most anything ever written in these early works as Gospel, when are really far from it. Even today, this same principle is often true. I am sure many of you have seen persons sending out emails to members of various mailing lists asking them to subscribe to a certain county history book they are in the process of writing. What do you want to bet the families covered in this new work will be many of the same families whose descendants have subscribed to this new book? The same goes for many family genealogical books. Can you imagine writing a book on a certain family and not making sure that this family was not descended from, at the very least, royalty or a very famous person or two? If you, as the author, did not meet this bare minimum requirement, you would end up "eating all of these books," instead of the apples and oranges you planed to buy with your profits from the sale of these books. I leaned two principles a long time ago -- "there is a little bit of truth in the biggest lie" and "there are some lies in the biggest truth." Most family and local history books fall between these two extremes, which is why I take information from either of these types of works, as only a "guide," and not a source of primary information. The primary problem with most of these types of works is their authors lost one of the key principles of historical (or genealogical) research -- objectivity........ There are two things that make this world go around, the inseparable twins of "money and power," either of which can subvert, as well as change, our interpretation of history or genealogy, whichever the case may be...... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken and Evelyn Hansson" <wetwo@kyblue.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:12 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Edward Daniel, Sr. and wife, Anna unknown. > >From Joe Daniel/Daniels to Evelyn Daniel/Daniels Hansson: > > Hello Cuz. > I am supposed to get my results on the 37 marker test tomorrow. They have > taken a long time. On Mr. Clarke, if you have been following emails he > does > not have a clue about our line. His statement about the Mayes family > shows > that. I would think that if he questions some ones line with the apples > and > oranges thing he should back up his remarks with FACTS. As you know we > have > plenty of documentation for the following families: Mayes, Hodges, > Greenlee > and Lacey. We have not been able to take our Edward Daniel Sr. and his > parents or the surname of his wife Anna. We have through DNA to Basil > Daniel and another one for Edward Daniel. I wish more people would do the > DNA so that all of us might get over our "Brick Walls." > Joe Daniels > > > This from Evelyn Daniels Hansson: > > Through Joe's DNA, 12, 15 and 37 markers we have matched with 10 other > persons who have done the test. My nephew, Michael Daniels, son of my > deceased brother, Ray Daniels has taken the 12 marker and should receive > the > results any day. When these results arrive they will be posted to the > DANIEL DNA site and it would show again the matches for all the previous > men > who have been tested. These matches are through our Edward Daniel, Sr. > line. > We do hope some Daniel men from other lines will take the DNA test. We > believe the DNA testing is, at this time, the best way to learn of our > ancestors and the most positive way with no doubts of its accuracy! I do > have documented information for some of my DANIEL spouses, however I can't > learn anything about my great-grandmother, Nancy MAYS who was born in > Kentucky in 1845. I don't know which county in Kentucky her family were > living in at the time she was born. I welcome any information about Nancy > MAYS Daniel. > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > >