Well, this is Annie <JetPilotUSAF100@cs.com> ~ apparently I wore out this address... got kicked off again. Just thought I should identify myself... wouldn't want anyone to think there were two ole nettles out here. <g> First, I also thank Mike for sending the James DANIEL Will of 1848. MENTIONED: "Gilly DANIEL is Griselle CLEMENTS" ... or GRIZZELL Clements. This christian name of GRIZZELL and the SPILSBE christian name go on for many generations in the COLEMAN families, and below you can see why. GENERATIONS: 1. Robert COLEMAN, SR., b: before 1622, England ~ dc: 1682, Gloucester Co., VA ~ Married ELIZABETH GRIZZELL bc: 1630 2. Grizzell COLEMAN, bc: 1660, married Benjamin CLEMENTS ~ She was sister to Daniel and Robert below. 2. Daniel COLEMAN ~ his line leads to Elizabeth Coleman who married Jesse CLEMENTS in 1787 Amherst Co, VA. 2. Robert COLEMAN, JR, b: 1656, Gloucester Co., VA ~ Married ANNE SPILSBE b: 1659, and they had, among others: 3. Robert COLEMAN, III, b: 1682, King & Queen County, Virginia ~ dc: 1748, Picadilly, Caroline County, Virginia ~ Married Mary CLAYTON, and had, among others: 3. SPILSBE COLEMAN, bc: 1725 ~ d: 1757 ~ d: UNMARRIED Killed by lightening. Will admitted for probate 03 MAY 1757 (WB B, p. 310, Spotsylvania Co. Records). Spilsbe left the bulk of his property to brothers Richard, Thomas, Robert and John, and to BROTHER-IN-LAW WILLIAM DANIEL. Spilsbe COLEMAN was commissioned 2nd Lt. of the Militia on 4 May 1756 (OB 1755-56, Spotsylvania Co. Records). From Spilsbe's will: "The lease of Zachary TALIAFERO to be sold and proceeds distributed amongst the poor of this parish." Book by Sherriane Nicol - The Coleman Family of Mobjack Bay, Virginia Updated from 1959 manuscripts of Judge S. B. Coleman, Bradenton, Florida 1998 Page 129 ``````````````````````````````````````` And don't forget Spilsbe DANIEL who married Sarah ASBURY, related to Hannah ASBURY who married Henning DANIEL ```````````````````````````````````````` MENTIONED: "Supposedly Edmund DANIEL had a son Cordial also which has been a curiosity to me (were Edmund and James somehow related..?)" No "supposedly" about it... Edmund DANIEL and Elizabeth TEMBTE did have a son named Cordial, as did their son Henning DANIEL and Hannah ASBURY plus a few more related down the road in time from them. Edmund DANIEL also had a brother named James DANIEL, and if James had a son named Cordial DANIEL, or a daughter named Cordia DANIEL, which the girls got stuck with, then this must be Edmund's brother. Their parents were William DANIEL and Elizabeth COLEMAN ~ and not necessarily the "William" mentioned in Spilsbe COLEMAN's Will noted above. I believe the clue to my DANIELs might possibly be in the surname of CORDIAL, a French name I believe, and one that I'm totally stumped on, as appears there were few in my needed time frame. Then... If CORDIAL [multiple spellings available] was the surname of Dr. Henning TEMBTE's mother, he, b: 1712, being the father of Elizabeth TEMBTE who married Edmund DANIEL circa 1770,... then forget it, as the best of genealogists in the past have never found his origins under TEMBTE, TEMPLE, TEMBLE, or wherever they searched. However, I rather suspect Henning TEMBTE was French too, for what that is worth. Annie Ole Nettles