Annie, Truly good stuff! I think there may be something here. I will give you my thoughts and answer Payne & John's exchange of yesterday concerning James DANIEL, husband of Grizzell Clements, being a son of Woodson DANIEL of Wake Cty., NC. You and I seem to agree that James may be related in some manner to Edmund. You mention the possibility that James was Edmund's brother. I think it may be more probable that James was Edmund's nephew, a son of Edmund's brother James. I suspect Edmund's brother James may have been a bit long in the tooth to marry Grizzell. I had recorded an old quote from an article in the Huxford Genealogy Society Magazine Vol. #25 No. 4 Dec.1998 that states that James (Grizzell's hsbnd.) was a son of James. As to the Woodson DANIEL connection, I have several theories as to how they may have started. Firstly, Woodson's daughter Elizabeth did in fact marry William CLEMENTS, Grizell's older (half?) brother 15 Mar 1779 in Wake Cty., NC. Secondly, Mary Rowan DANIEL wrote in "The First Families of Henry County, Georgia" that James (Grizzell's hsbnd.) was son of Woodson DANIEL. However, she also states Woodson is out of the Middlesex Cty., Va DANIEL's being a son of William DANIEL & Elizabeth WATKINS and that Woodson died in Greenville, NC. We have pretty much established that Woodson of Wake Cty., NC died in Wake Cty by his will and subsequent inventories in court records. Many believe Woodson was son of James DANIEL and Elizabeth WOODSON of Goochland Cty., VA. (Roger DANIEL line) and as it has been pointed out on list exchanges previously this has never been conclusively proven. I have chosen to believe that Woodson was a son of James and Elizabeth WOODSON and that James, son of Woodson was James Daniel of Rowan Cty., NC who married the widow Rebecca Travis ADDERTON. James and Woodson's sons John, David, Benjamin are all at times living in Rowan Cty., NC in close proximity. As Payne mentioned we have both corresponded with a professional researcher working for another party to establish the ancestry of one of David's daughters, who concurs with this thinking. At any rate I have a stronger feeling that James and Grizell somehow fit into the Edmund, Thomas et al. DANIELS. Sorry about butchering the spelling of Grizell earlier. Mike

Mike and Annie, There are a lot of things that make me question some of the stuff we have seen out of Greene County, GA, especially as relates to Thomas and Sarah DANIEL. What I do know is that Charles is not a family name in this DANIEL bunch, that I can tell. What I do know is that Charles is a big given name in the CUNNINGHAMS of SW Virginia. If anything, I think that Charles DANIEL (1773-1800) who married Elizabeth COFFEE may be a descendant of the DANIEL-KELSO bunch and not Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA. Or if he is indeed a descendant of Thomas DANIEL, then Thomas was out of this DANIEL-KELSO bunch, somewhere, or at least, a family closely associated with the CUNNINGHAMS. My reasoning is -- given named flow in families like water and Charles is a definite CUNNINGHAM family name. Also, the CARROLS are tied to the family of Daniel COLEMAN of Warren County, NC, whose descendants end up in Greene County, GA tied to the same Thomas DANIEL family. The CARROLLS are also one of the families closely identified as having followed the CUNNINGHAMS, along with the Kelso-DANIEL bunch, as well as the CARLTONS, COFFEES and others to GA from PA. I also know that one of these CARLTONS, a John K. CARLTON, Esq. was of Thomas County, GA and his brother, Henry, was in Morgan County, GA, located adjacent to Greene County, GA. I also do not know what the K. stood for in this John's name but I would not bet against, KELSO. Just how many other surnames do we know that start with K. and are located around this bunch. Not many..... We know the Coleman, Spilsby and Asbury DANIEL bunch were in Greene and Morgan County, GA, early, but this does not mean they were related to the Cunningham-Daniel bunch in Greene County, GA. The key thing, to me, is profile and the Cunningham-Daniel bunch were high steppers, as best I can tell. I do not see this same profile in this other DANIEL family. I also know the HUNTERS of Greene County, GA were also high steppers, which seems to follow. There are several DANIELS that float, early, in Morgan County, GA. A William DANIEL who d.unm. and w/o heirs in 1839 had a brother named James and a father named, John. This from his 1839 Morgan County, GA will. I also know there was a Capt. James L. DANIEL of Morgan County, GA who died in a hotel in Macon, GA in 1850. I also believe he was the James DANIEL mentioned in William's 1839 will of Morgan County. Which John DANIEL was their father, I do not know but the name, Littleberry or something similar to that, was a name listed in William's 1839 will, probated in Morgan County, GA. Some of this LITTLEBERY information may point back to Halifax County, NC, a place that some say were the origins of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA. Or, it may point back to the COCKE and LITTLEBERRY families of Charles City County, VA or the BUSH and LITTLEBERRY families of Edgefield, SC. I do not know which, if any of these families was the source of this name, LITTLEBERRY. I would not be against the possibility that a lot of these DANIELS were either recent immigrants from Ireland, Scotland or England or Yankee DANIELS who moved south, as did a lot of other families in that time frame, my family, included. They may have stayed just long enough in VA for folks to now think they were descendants of early VA families, when, in fact, they were not. I have scads of New England families that migrated south into VA for one generation and then on south into GA by 1800. Were these DANIEL families any different? I am beginning to think, not....... It may take DNA analysis to straighten out this mess in Greene County, GA because there is just too much conflicting information out there on all of these families....... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Cordial, James, Edmund DANIEL > Annie, > > Truly good stuff! I think there may be something here. I will give you my > thoughts and answer Payne & John's exchange of yesterday concerning James DANIEL, > husband of Grizzell Clements, being a son of Woodson DANIEL of Wake Cty., NC. > You and I seem to agree that James may be related in some manner to Edmund. > You mention the possibility that James was Edmund's brother. I think it may > be more probable that James was Edmund's nephew, a son of Edmund's brother > James. I suspect Edmund's brother James may have been a bit long in the tooth to > marry Grizzell. I had recorded an old quote from an article in the Huxford > Genealogy Society Magazine Vol. #25 No. 4 Dec.1998 that states that James > (Grizzell's hsbnd.) was a son of James. > > As to the Woodson DANIEL connection, I have several theories as to how they > may have started. Firstly, Woodson's daughter Elizabeth did in fact marry > William CLEMENTS, Grizell's older (half?) brother 15 Mar 1779 in Wake Cty., NC. > Secondly, Mary Rowan DANIEL wrote in "The First Families of Henry County, > Georgia" that James (Grizzell's hsbnd.) was son of Woodson DANIEL. However, she also > states Woodson is out of the Middlesex Cty., Va DANIEL's being a son of > William DANIEL & Elizabeth WATKINS and that Woodson died in Greenville, NC. We > have pretty much established that Woodson of Wake Cty., NC died in Wake Cty by > his will and subsequent inventories in court records. Many believe Woodson was > son of James DANIEL and Elizabeth WOODSON of Goochland Cty., VA. (Roger DANIEL > line) and as it has been pointed out on list exchanges previously this has > never been conclusively proven. > > I have chosen to believe that Woodson was a son of James and Elizabeth > WOODSON and that James, son of Woodson was James Daniel of Rowan Cty., NC who > married the widow Rebecca Travis ADDERTON. James and Woodson's sons John, David, > Benjamin are all at times living in Rowan Cty., NC in close proximity. As Payne > mentioned we have both corresponded with a professional researcher working > for another party to establish the ancestry of one of David's daughters, who > concurs with this thinking. > > At any rate I have a stronger feeling that James and Grizell somehow fit into > the Edmund, Thomas et al. DANIELS. > > Sorry about butchering the spelling of Grizell earlier. > > Mike > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > >