In a message dated 2/27/2004 10:45:55 AM Central Standard Time, gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com writes: > What does "aet. 40, anno, > 08 APL 1665" mean after William DANIEL of Wigan, County Lancaster, England? Well, I went back and looked... duh me... didn't think I did, but left something off. This paper was also signed 08 APL 1665 by William DANIEL. I see now that appears he was age 40 on this date, so not necessarily his birthdate. Then, son William, JR, on the same date was/would have been age 14, thus bc: 1651; and son Henry was/would have been 18 and thus bc: 1647. This paper signed 08 APL 1665, also shows, [Visitation of 1664] that William DANIEL of Wigan was the son of Peter DANIEL, a Captaine of foote in the Army of his late Majestie King Charles the first anno 1643 ~ his siblings were {2} Henry; {3} Richard; {4} Robert; {5} Thomas; {6} John; No {7} and {8} Thomas DANIELL, a Lieutenant in the late Kings Army, slayne at Bruinsford anno 1662 who married Alice SMITH and left son Peter DANIEL, living in 1666. These were children of Peter DANIELL, of Tabley Co. Cest. and his spouse Sarah WILCOCKS, daughter of Richard, Esq. `````````````````````````````````````````````````` `````````````````````````````````````````````````` Visitations of Lancashire,1623 ~ Crest: an UNICORN'S HEAD, etc. Thomas DANIEL of Om., Tabley in Com. Pal. Cestriae, 13 Edw IV (1747) married Blanch, daughter of Piers WARBURTON and they had Piers DANIEL who married Juliana NEWTON. And they had: {1} Thomas DANIEL who married Alice FFOULK, of Chester. and had Peter, b: 1561 of Tabley Co. Cest. Esq. who married Anne MAINWARING. {2} William DANIEL who married first a daughter of Christopher SECONDARY of the court; and married secondly his MAID, then one of these ladies had William DANIEL, JR. [and whom I'm guessing was probably born well before 1600.] ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` The Will you mentioned of William DANIEL who named his son James, is abstracted here in the book AND adjacent to the DANIEL Chapter which leads a novice, of these particular DANIELs, to believe or question.... I have no lineage interest in any of these DANIELs... merely trying to get them all straight in me ole cranium. Thanks for the clarification on William and James... and, like I said this book is difficult to follow, not counting the small print... think it was written by a Philadelphia Lawyer. `````````````````````````````````````````` Are you sure the Parish Register of Christ Church, Middlesex Co, Va. from 1653 to 1812 doesn't mention a son James? [see below] Those marriages on page 330 that I listed, are probably only the ones HAYDEN couldn't connect. Ah ha... pg 294 ~ The DANIEL "disjecta membra"... [told you he was a lawyer] ...given from the church records, at the end of this Daniel line, will show the difficulty of constructing a legitimate pedigree from any one of the early settlers of the name. ~ [And, that be those on pg 330] I did find another "stray" Middlesex Parish marriage: Margaret DANIEL and Henry WARE on 15 AUG 1711 `````````````````````````````````````````` I have Eustace unassigned. He is not Edmund!! Agreed!!! `````````````````````````````````````````` Here's exactly what HAYDEN wrote about James, as to dates ~ I know, Payne, you probably already have... pg 294/95 1. James DANIEL of Middlesex County, Virginia, bc: 1680 ~ d:....... ~ Married 27 JAN 1704, to Margaret VIVIAN, b:...... ~ d: 05 MAY 1727, daughter of John and Margaret VIVIAN of same county. [lists the VIVIAN children, etc. in footnote] NOTE: [pg 294] James DANIEL was ordered by the vestry of Middlesex Parish to procession the land 1724 and 1726. He was therefore a member of the vestry. In 1747, James DANIEL succeeded William DANIEL in the vestry. In 1751 he again processioned the land. [Is this the same William DANIEL who was a member of the vestry back in JUN 1684? Whoa!] Children of James DANIEL and Margaret VIVIAN [M.R. except No. 5.] 2. Rachel, b: 14 OCT 1704 ~ baptized: 15 NOV 1704 ~ m. 14 NOV 1722, Thomas AMIS or ARNIS, gent. 3.+ Peter, b: 1706 ~ baptized 29 SEP 1706 ~ m. .........., Sarah TRAVERS Pierson, widow of Captain Christopher PIERSON. 4.+ CHARLES, b: 1708/09 ~ baptized 06 MAR 1708/09 ~ m. 1732/33, Jane MICKELBOROUGH 5.+ William, b: 1710/14 (?) ~ m. Elizabeth WATKINS Woodson 6.+ James, b: 17 FEB 1716 ~ baptized: 17 MAR 1716 ~ m. 1753 (?) Mary KILLINGHAM 7. John, b: 19 JAN 1721 ~ b: 18 FEB 1721 ~ m. (?) ...... Elizabeth MORTON 8. Phebe, b: 12 MAR 1723 ~ baptized 05 APR 1724 9.+ Vivian, b: 01 JUL 1726 ~ baptized: 29 JUL 1726 ~ m. Elizabeth VIVIAN 10.? Susanna DANIEL, m. 17 FEB 1736; Henry MICKELBOROUGH and had Vivian, b: 06 NOV 1736 or 46 (last two figures almost erased), [Susanna] was probably daughter of James combing before James No. 6 ? Robert, No. 286, also probably belongs to James. ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

William Daniel of Wigan was the son of Peter Daniel II and Christian Grosvenor of Over Tabley, England. Sos we won't bore the rest of the list I will answer your most recent message one on one. I will copy anyone interested in this stuff. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: <ShuShuFlyPie@cs.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] For the Record > In a message dated 2/27/2004 10:45:55 AM Central Standard Time, > gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com writes: > > What does "aet. 40, anno, > > 08 APL 1665" mean after William DANIEL of Wigan, County Lancaster, England? > > Well, I went back and looked... duh me... didn't think I did, but left > something off. This paper was also signed 08 APL 1665 by William DANIEL. I see now > that appears he was age 40 on this date, so not necessarily his birthdate. > Then, son William, JR, on the same date was/would have been age 14, thus bc: > 1651; and son Henry was/would have been 18 and thus bc: 1647. > > This paper signed 08 APL 1665, also shows, [Visitation of 1664] that William > DANIEL of Wigan was the son of Peter DANIEL, a Captaine of foote in the Army > of his late Majestie King Charles the first anno 1643 ~ his siblings were {2} > Henry; {3} Richard; {4} Robert; {5} Thomas; {6} John; No {7} and {8} > Thomas DANIELL, a Lieutenant in the late Kings Army, slayne at Bruinsford anno > 1662 who married Alice SMITH and left son Peter DANIEL, living in 1666. These > were children of Peter DANIELL, of Tabley Co. Cest. and his spouse Sarah > WILCOCKS, daughter of Richard, Esq. > `````````````````````````````````````````````````` > `````````````````````````````````````````````````` > Visitations of Lancashire,1623 ~ Crest: an UNICORN'S HEAD, etc. > Thomas DANIEL of Om., Tabley in Com. Pal. Cestriae, 13 Edw IV (1747) married > Blanch, daughter of Piers WARBURTON and they had Piers DANIEL who married > Juliana NEWTON. And they had: {1} Thomas DANIEL who married Alice FFOULK, of > Chester. and had Peter, b: 1561 of Tabley Co. Cest. Esq. who married Anne > MAINWARING. {2} William DANIEL who married first a daughter of Christopher > SECONDARY of the court; and married secondly his MAID, then one of these ladies had > William DANIEL, JR. [and whom I'm guessing was probably born well before 1600.] > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > The Will you mentioned of William DANIEL who named his son James, is > abstracted here in the book AND adjacent to the DANIEL Chapter which leads a novice, > of these particular DANIELs, to believe or question.... > > I have no lineage interest in any of these DANIELs... merely trying to get > them all straight in me ole cranium. Thanks for the clarification on William > and James... and, like I said this book is difficult to follow, not counting the > small print... think it was written by a Philadelphia Lawyer. > `````````````````````````````````````````` > Are you sure the Parish Register of Christ Church, Middlesex Co, Va. from > 1653 to 1812 doesn't mention a son James? [see below] > > Those marriages on page 330 that I listed, are probably only the ones HAYDEN > couldn't connect. Ah ha... pg 294 ~ The DANIEL "disjecta membra"... [told > you he was a lawyer] ...given from the church records, at the end of this Daniel > line, will show the difficulty of constructing a legitimate pedigree from any > one of the early settlers of the name. ~ [And, that be those on pg 330] > > I did find another "stray" Middlesex Parish marriage: > Margaret DANIEL and Henry WARE on 15 AUG 1711 > `````````````````````````````````````````` > I have Eustace unassigned. He is not Edmund!! > Agreed!!! > `````````````````````````````````````````` > Here's exactly what HAYDEN wrote about James, as to dates ~ I know, Payne, > you probably already have... pg 294/95 > > 1. James DANIEL of Middlesex County, Virginia, bc: 1680 ~ d:....... ~ > Married 27 JAN 1704, to Margaret VIVIAN, b:...... ~ d: 05 MAY 1727, daughter of John > and Margaret VIVIAN of same county. [lists the VIVIAN children, etc. in > footnote] > > NOTE: [pg 294] James DANIEL was ordered by the vestry of Middlesex Parish to > procession the land 1724 and 1726. He was therefore a member of the vestry. > In 1747, James DANIEL succeeded William DANIEL in the vestry. In 1751 he > again processioned the land. [Is this the same William DANIEL who was a member > of the vestry back in JUN 1684? Whoa!] > > Children of James DANIEL and Margaret VIVIAN [M.R. except No. 5.] > 2. Rachel, b: 14 OCT 1704 ~ baptized: 15 NOV 1704 ~ m. 14 NOV 1722, > Thomas AMIS or ARNIS, gent. > > 3.+ Peter, b: 1706 ~ baptized 29 SEP 1706 ~ m. .........., Sarah TRAVERS > Pierson, widow of Captain Christopher PIERSON. > > 4.+ CHARLES, b: 1708/09 ~ baptized 06 MAR 1708/09 ~ m. 1732/33, Jane > MICKELBOROUGH > > 5.+ William, b: 1710/14 (?) ~ m. Elizabeth WATKINS Woodson > 6.+ James, b: 17 FEB 1716 ~ baptized: 17 MAR 1716 ~ m. 1753 (?) Mary > KILLINGHAM > > 7. John, b: 19 JAN 1721 ~ b: 18 FEB 1721 ~ m. (?) ...... Elizabeth MORTON > 8. Phebe, b: 12 MAR 1723 ~ baptized 05 APR 1724 > > 9.+ Vivian, b: 01 JUL 1726 ~ baptized: 29 JUL 1726 ~ m. Elizabeth VIVIAN > > 10.? Susanna DANIEL, m. 17 FEB 1736; Henry MICKELBOROUGH and had Vivian, b: > 06 NOV 1736 or 46 (last two figures almost erased), [Susanna] was probably > daughter of James combing before James No. 6 > > ? Robert, No. 286, also probably belongs to James. > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > Mail Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > or- > Digest Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >