John, I disagree with you on the Do-Not-Call Registy. It works! We've not had a single telemarketer call since it went into effect. Before our phone was always ringing with them. SPAM is a problem we all have and I suspect will just have to learn to live with until an effective plan to eliminate it has been put into place. Now back to genealogy. Jerry W. Murphy jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Scam letters from Nigeria > Brenda, > SPAM is a difficult problem for all of us - I get from 50 to 75 SPAM > messages a day. If you can find a way to keep them from getting in your > inbox, then copyright that idea and sell it. There is no easy way to keep > SPAM out of your inbox. > Payne seems to think they got his email address from the DANIEL list, > but not so. They probably got it off his website or where he left it as a > contact address on another website. Nobody has access to your email address > on the DANIEL list but me and Rootsweb and we do not sell or give it to > anybody. It would violate Rootsweb's Privacy Agreements.. > There are programs out there that will limit the number of SPAM messages > you receive but they also delete some messages that you did not want > deleted. You can also forget that No-SPAM Registry, just like the Anti-Call > Telephone Registry. I think those suckers sell your name, address and phone > numbers to anybody that will buy them. And, if you were not on their SPAM > list before, you will be after you register with these registries. <grin> > The only way do get rid of these SPAM messages is the old fashion way - > delete them with a click of the mouse. You can use Message Rules in Outlook > Express to automatically delete messages that contain certain keywords but > these Spammers have already figured ways around any keyword search by > changing the subject line from "Viagra" to "V.I.A.G.R.A," etc. Mine catches > the dummies but the smart persons get by this check in a heart beat. > Also, no matter what we do, these folks, often poor little old ladies or > disabled fellows living in a mobile home, will find a way to circumvent > keyword searchers, blocked sender lists, etc. Until the Congress passes > laws that will provide for economic sanctions against Internet Service > Providers or Domain Registrants for the conduct of those using their > services, there is not a lot you can do about SPAMERS. However, these > person can just a quickly switch to a new ISP or use an overseas ISP where > US Law cannot reach them. > This is why I limit who receive my primary email address. Also, when I > am posting an email address to a website, I use my Hotmail address. Also, > if you have a website never link your primary email address directly on the > website but use a web driven form to feed any contacts information back to > you. The reason is SPAMERS have robots that go from website to website > looking for any email addresses contained on a website. > These folks are smart, crafty, have reasonably good computer equipment > and have a lot more time than they have money. That latter commodity is > what they want from you. <grin> As for what you can do about SPAM > essages - little or nothing, except never respond to one and delete any and > all that come in to your mailbox. > Most of these folks work on a .5 to 1.5% return from any message they > send, so if they do not get any responses, they quickly drop off your email > address. The only problem, there are lots of these folks out there and they > probably trade email address lists between each other. What the Feds need > to do is put a few of these folks in jail and I think will do as much as > anything else to reduce the number of SPAM messages we get. However, what > do they do -- they prosecute people like Bill GATES and Martha STEWART - > high profile targets. > Did you know the Clinton Administration spent more money prosecuting > Microsoft from 1993 to 2001 than it did in pursuing Usama Bin Laden? One > of the main reasons SPAM and viruses are such a problem, today, is because > the Clinton Administration was able to coerce the US Courts into forcing > Microsoft to release parts of the code for their operating systems to their > competitors, whose minions later put critical parts of it the public domain. > Once you have the keys to the backdoor, why bother about opening the lock on > the front door? I guess it all shows where their priorities were........ > > So much for SPAM on the DANIEL list. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda Joiner" <wheeliebj@msn.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:36 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Scam letters from Nigeria > > > > Payne, I have received Several scam letters from people in Nigeria. I > don't even open them anymore. Any suggestions on how to get these stoped? > Any would be appreciated. > > > > Brenda in Alabama > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > the subject of a reply message. > > > > > > ______________________________