Jack, Anne Marie Louise LeGRANDE (b. ABT 1680 in Parish of Aguerney Vicomte de Laen in Normandy, Province of France - BEF 1709, French Santee, Berkeley County, SC) married ABT 1700 Rev. Pierre ROBERT (1675-1731) born Basin, Switzerland, died French Santee, Berkeley County, SC. Rev. ROBERT was the ancestor of all of the ROBERT family of SC by both this LeGRANDE girl or his other wife, Judith DeBOURDEAX (ABT 1685-1733) whom he married in 1709 in French Santee, Berkeley County, SC. Mostly, this ROBERT family is tied to the O'DANIEL family and not the DANIEL family. The only ROBERT connection to my family is that of Lawrence Wood ROBERT who married my rather distant cousin, Evelyn WALKER (b. 1904) ABT 1925 or so in Atlanta, the social event of the season, as I understand it. However, I do not know his ROBERT lineage but I assume it goes back to this ROBERT family. Evelyn (my 3C1R) and her husband had one child that I know of, Alice Birney ROBERT, but I do not know hat happened to her or them. However, I do know the LAWRENCE and WOOD families are probably tied to my bunch in some way back in eastern NC in an earlier era. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree >I haven't absolutely proven it yet, but I am fairly sure that my Campbell > line tracks back to Dr. Samuel LeGrand Campbell of Rockbridge County, > Virginia. I haven't found his LeGrand connection, either, but there are > LeGrands in the area where he lived. > > Jack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree > > >> Well, we do have something in common. <grin> My grandfather was Andrew >> Jackson ROBINSON, hence he picked up the nickname, "Cap'n Jack." >> With that LeGrande ancestry, you are probably related to the ROBERT >> family of French Santee, Berkeley County, SC in some way. Is that > correct? >> I know some of the CAMPBELLS bounced out of the Bertie, Edgecombe area > into >> SC where they would have come into contact with the LeGRAND bunch who >> were >> originally from Normandy, FRANCE, according to my notes. >> Sarah COX who married Thomas CAMPBELL (ABT 1750-BEF 1786), first, and >> Josiah DANIEL (AFT 1736-1825 of Beaufort District, SC, second, was one of >> these CAMPBELL links that I know about. >> >> John R. Clarke >> Thomasville, GA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> >> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree >> >> >> > I, on the other hand, have never used the name John - much to the >> > dismay >> > of >> > my third grade teacher, who insisted that Jack was a nickname for John. >> > I, >> > however, was named after my great grandfather, Jackson LeGrand > Campbell - >> > no >> > John in there. >> > >> > Jack >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> >> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:07 PM >> > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree >> > >> > >> >> Bill, >> >> It was not Jack that asked you, it was me but Jack and John are > often >> >> the same persons and I have used the name, Jack, all too many times, > too. >> >> <grin> >> >> It is mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and it is inherited by all >> >> children >> > from >> >> their mother and is passed from mother to all of her offspring's. If > you >> >> have two unbroken female lines back to this DANIEL family , then you > can >> > use >> >> the mtDNA test even if the person at the end of each line is a male. >> >> My mitochondrial DNA is the same as that of Elizabeth HERRING, my > 4th >> >> GGM, wife of Richard RICKS, Sr (ABt 1780-1847) of Elizabeth Parish, >> >> Edgecombe County, NC and later, Emanuel County, GA. >> >> This unbroken line is. Me, Alyse ROBINSON, Sarah Elizabeth >> > TOMLINSON, >> >> Arlia Ann Barbara DAME, Sarah Ann THIGPEN, Barbara RICKS, Elizabeth >> > HERRING >> >> who was the d/o an Abraham HERRING and I do not know who his wife was. >> > You >> >> may have something similar which will allow you to do mtDNA testing. >> >> >> >> John R. Clarke >> >> Thomasville, GA >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Bill Brewer" <wwb@ix.netcom.com> >> >> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 3:06 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree >> >> >> >> >> >> > Jack, >> >> > If I could find a male descendant of Benjamin Daniel and Margaret >> >> > Brown, >> >> > who >> >> > are my earliest fully documented ancestors (Benjamin being the >> >> > purported >> >> > son >> >> > of William Daniel and Mary Snead) I would certainly do my best to > have >> > him >> >> > submit his DNA. So far, however I have not managed to find him. >> >> > >> >> > I have had my DNA analyzed, but of course that will only help with > the >> >> > Brewer line. The other DNA analysis (I won't even attempt to spell > it, >> >> > but >> >> > the DNA inherited from mothers) also won't help with the Daniel line >> >> > because >> >> > my last Daniel ancestor was Virginia W. Daniel, daughter of William > A. >> >> > Daniel and Mary E. Cooper...so we shoot off into the Cooper line and >> > from >> >> > there into the Burton line, which is as far as I can go with that. >> >> > >> >> > But...we continue searching..... >> >> > Bill >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> >> >> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:39 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> RE: " I followed my surname back all the way to England in the 15th >> >> > Century >> >> >> based on DAR >> >> >> information from the 1930's...before I discovered that the two > ladies >> >> >> that >> >> >> had joined the DAR and whose information I was taking on faith had >> >> >> fabricated the entire line! And books are still being written >> >> >> using >> >> >> their >> >> >> information, even though the DAR itself has disowned it." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ain't that the truth. Now you know why so much of what we see >> >> >> today >> >> >> makes >> >> >> no sense, whatsoever. However, I think we will get to the bottom >> >> >> of >> >> >> it >> >> > with >> >> >> the primary source records that are out there, these days, and >> >> >> those >> >> >> which >> >> >> will be coming online in the future, especially when combined with > DNA >> >> >> analysis. I also think there will be some major surprises along >> >> >> the >> > way, >> >> >> too. >> >> >> >> >> >> BTW, has your line been DNA tested, yet. Since the Bill BREWER >> >> >> line >> >> >> is >> >> > one >> >> >> of the most mysterious DANIEL lines around, I think it would >> >> >> behoove >> > you >> >> > to >> >> >> have someone from this DANIEL line tested, if you have not do so, >> >> >> already. >> >> >> >> >> >> The test for my DANIEL line went in, today, so I should know > something >> > on >> >> > my >> >> >> line within about six weeks..... >> >> >> >> >> >> John R. Clarke >> >> >> Thomasville, GA >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Bill Brewer" <wwb@ix.netcom.com> >> >> >> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 12:03 AM >> >> >> Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Ruth, >> >> >> > You should have asked that Center's librarian to see the Center's >> >> >> > Strict >> >> >> > Copyright policy. For the last several years (never mind how >> >> >> > many >> >> >> > is >> >> >> > "several"...just consider it to be more than I'd like to admit) I >> > have >> >> >> > visited Salt Lake City twice a year, spending a week going >> >> >> > through >> >> >> > films >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > making prints. In between visits to Salt Lake City, I have gone > to >> > the >> >> >> > local Center in West Los Angeles, ordered films from Salt Lake > City, >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > have made many copies. Never has anyone told me there was a >> >> >> > limit >> >> >> > on >> >> > the >> >> >> > copies I could make...and I have been there often enough that >> >> >> > several >> >> >> > of >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > volunteers know me by name. Actually, there is no copyright on >> > public >> >> >> > records. I think you were the victim of an over-zealous local >> >> > librarian. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > One thing I will agree with Jack on...there is nothing that can >> > compare >> >> > to >> >> >> > the thrill of going down and prowling through some dusty records > in >> >> >> > some >> >> >> > dirty basement of an obscure courthouse...and finding a gem! >> >> >> > But, >> > the >> >> >> > problem with that is that you don't always know which obscure >> >> >> > courthouse >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > which dirty basement, or which dusty record is going to give you >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > payoff. You still can't trust the information on the LDS films >> >> >> > implicitly, >> >> >> > but they will guide you to the proper places to find the original >> >> > records, >> >> >> > and that's what we're looking for. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > As for cobbled up records, yes, there are a lot of cobbled up >> > records. >> >> >> > But >> >> >> > they existed long before Ancestry.com came on the scene. I > followed >> > my >> >> >> > surname back all the way to England in the 15th Century based on > DAR >> >> >> > information from the 1930's...before I discovered that the two >> >> >> > ladies >> >> > that >> >> >> > had joined the DAR and whose information I was taking on faith >> >> >> > had >> >> >> > fabricated the entire line! And books are still being written > using >> >> > their >> >> >> > information, even though the DAR itself has disowned it. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > There is junk out there. There is junk on the commercial > services, >> > and >> >> >> > there is junk on the "free" services (here free is in quotes >> >> >> > because >> >> >> > my >> >> >> > time is valuable, junk costs time). Only the original source >> >> >> > records >> >> > are >> >> >> > absolute proof (and even those could have been falsified). It >> > doesn't >> >> >> > matter if you use the commercial services or the "free" services, >> >> >> > you >> >> >> > still >> >> >> > have to verify the data...and if your families get cobbled up, it > is >> >> >> > always >> >> >> > you who cobbled them. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I know, I said I wasn't going to comment further on this >> > subject...see, >> >> >> > even >> >> >> > I can't be relied upon. >> >> >> > Bill >> >> >> > And this, I promise, is my last comment on the subject. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> > From: "Ruth Newlan" <ruthann@saw.net> >> >> >> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 6:59 PM >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Jack: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> There is something to John's statement. I've used the LSD Films >> >> >> > extensively >> >> >> >> over the last few years to research Monroe Co., AL court >> >> >> >> records. >> >> > After >> >> >> >> ordering a number of films and taking a great number of prints > off >> > the >> >> >> >> films - I was reminded by the center's Librarian of the Family >> > History >> >> >> >> Center's Strict Copyright policy. They feel that when they have >> >> >> >> filmed >> >> >> >> records that they own the copyright on them. And, likewise you > will >> >> >> >> not >> >> >> > find >> >> >> >> the same records recorded in any type of media in the AL State >> >> > Archives. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes, the original records are still in the basement of the old >> > Monroe >> >> >> >> Courthouse - now Heritage Museum. And, by asking the right > person, >> > I >> >> >> >> understand that folks can still go down and prowl through the > dusty >> >> >> > records >> >> >> >> in a dirty basement. It appears that the State of AL upholds >> >> >> >> the >> > LSD >> >> >> >> copyright. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> As you know, I love sharing what I have on my families lines and > do >> > it >> >> >> >> freely (and that's the key word - FREELY). I've spent a good > dime >> > on >> >> > my >> >> >> >> research as many of you have. And, anyone with a little >> >> >> >> ambition >> > will >> >> >> > know >> >> >> >> all that I know by reading on the Internet - I post to lists >> >> >> >> very >> >> > often. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And, talk about some cobbeled up histories that will be the >> >> >> >> results! >> >> > If >> >> >> > my >> >> >> >> families get cobbled up - I'd rather have done it myself ;>) >> >> >> >> Just my two cents - Ruth in Portland, OR >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> >> >> >> >> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 7:07 PM >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > One entity controlling all of the genealogical information? > Are >> > you >> >> >> >> > tripping, John? The information is still out there, in the > State >> >> >> >> Archives, >> >> >> >> > the Courthouses, in the Churches, the City Halls. Believe me, > I >> >> >> >> > have >> >> >> > gone >> >> >> >> > and found it there. Been to the National Archives, too. All > of >> >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > cost >> >> >> >> > me a whole lot of money in travel, lodging and meals on the >> >> >> >> > road - >> >> > and >> >> >> >> most >> >> >> >> > of it was fishing trips, going to where I THOUGHT that I might >> > find >> >> > my >> >> >> >> > ancestors records. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Now, I pay a little money and sit in the convenience of my own >> > home, >> >> > in >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> > comfortable chair, with my shoes off, while I look at scans of >> >> > original >> >> >> >> > census records at 10:00 p.m. at night. In short, I pay for >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> convenience >> >> >> >> > of easy multiple searches and of ease of delivery. I don't > HAVE >> > to >> >> > go >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > these sources, I could go back and do it the old way - indeed, > I >> >> > often >> >> >> > do. >> >> >> >> > But now I almost always have much better leads when I go to a >> >> >> >> > courthouse >> >> >> >> > because I have often found a transcript or original record to >> > point >> >> > me >> >> >> > in >> >> >> >> > the right direction. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against free resources - I >> >> >> >> > have >> >> >> >> > volunteered to digitize records for several county sites and > will >> >> >> > probably >> >> >> >> > do so again. But I certainly don't begrudge the fees that I > pay >> > to >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > folks who went to the trouble to collect into a single >> >> >> >> > location >> >> >> >> > large >> >> >> >> > quantities of the kind of records that I want to see. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Nobody is forced to use the subscription services - but I > cannot >> >> >> >> > imagine >> >> >> >> why >> >> >> >> > they wouldn't. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Jack Butler >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> >> >> >> >> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:46 PM >> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World > Tree >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > Bill, >> >> >> >> > > I am sorry but I have always felt that genealogical >> >> >> >> > > information >> >> >> >> > belongs >> >> >> >> > > to the families involved and not some commercial entity. I > do >> > not >> >> >> > think >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> > > have ever seen this old boy recommend resorting to a >> > professional >> >> >> >> > > genealogist, have you? >> >> >> >> > > Maybe it takes me a little longer than by paying some >> >> >> >> > > person >> >> >> >> > > to >> >> >> >> > > do >> >> >> >> > this >> >> >> >> > > work for me but the "thrill of the chase" is as important as >> >> >> >> > > the >> >> > end >> >> >> >> > results >> >> >> >> > > of that chase. Plus, I have made lots of friends in the >> > process, >> >> >> >> persons >> >> >> >> > > that I never would have known, otherwise. >> >> >> >> > > As for the LDS Church owning most of everything as > relates >> > to >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > > genealogical records of this nation, I have real problems > with >> >> >> >> > > that >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> > > just because of privacy issues, either. Employers, >> >> >> >> > > insurance >> >> >> > companies, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > etc.do not have to have your medical records, they can get a >> >> >> >> > > lot >> >> >> >> > > of >> >> >> >> > > information about you and your family strictly from the > history >> > of >> >> >> > your >> >> >> >> > > family, e.g. their typical life spans, their cause of death, >> > etc. >> >> >> >> > Normally, >> >> >> >> > > this information is pretty well protected because these >> >> >> >> > > entities >> >> >> >> > > do >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> > know >> >> >> >> > > your family history but put it all in one location and watch >> > out. >> >> >> >> > > Let >> >> >> >> > them >> >> >> >> > > get a hold of your DNA information and really watch out. >> >> >> >> > > Here we have a tax exempt organization, the LDS Church, >> > using >> >> > tax >> >> >> >> > exempt >> >> >> >> > > NPO's, like Rootsweb and probably Ancestry, to increase >> >> >> >> > > their >> >> > overall >> >> >> >> > wealth >> >> >> >> > > through commercialization and not having to pay corporate > taxes >> > on >> >> >> >> > > any >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> > > it. Now, do you understand why members of this church are > the >> >> >> > richest >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> > > any organized religion in this country -- they use our tax > laws >> > to >> >> >> > their >> >> >> >> > > benefit. I guess you could say, they are also a whole lot >> > smarter >> >> >> > than >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > > rest of us in this regard. >> >> >> >> > > I did not know they were in the gaming and casino > business >> >> > until >> >> >> >> > > I >> >> >> >> was >> >> >> >> > > in Las Vegas covering the Shot Show for my publication a few >> > years >> >> >> >> > > ago >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> > > read in their local paper an investigative report done one >> >> >> >> > > of >> >> >> >> > > their >> >> >> >> staff >> >> >> >> > > writers on this matter. It really surprised me, too, >> >> >> >> > > because > I >> >> > never >> >> >> >> > > associated any organized religion with this type of >> >> >> >> > > business. > I >> >> > also >> >> >> >> > assume >> >> >> >> > > you know they also own Novell and Word Perfect, or did at >> >> >> >> > > one >> >> >> >> > > time. >> >> >> >> > > In this country we have laws to protect each of our >> > individual >> >> >> >> > religious >> >> >> >> > > beliefs or even to protect us from religion if you believe >> >> >> >> > > some, >> >> > but >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > have >> >> >> >> > > one specific religious body controlling all of the > genealogical >> >> >> >> > information >> >> >> >> > > of this country, I find appalling. I also feel that > government >> >> > will >> >> >> >> > sooner >> >> >> >> > > or later step in because of the privacy issues involved. >> >> >> >> > > It is one thing to be a repository of historical facts, > as >> >> >> >> > > they >> >> >> > are >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> > > have been, but it is quite another to be able to tie all of >> > these >> >> >> >> > historical >> >> >> >> > > facts, together, as we easily do for them. When you put >> >> > "historical >> >> >> >> > facts" >> >> >> >> > > and the links that tie them to specific families, as is the >> >> >> >> > > case >> >> > with >> >> >> >> any >> >> >> >> > > GEDCOMS you submit to them, and put all of this under a >> > religious >> >> >> >> > umbrella, >> >> >> >> > > then you have created the situation where your family >> > information >> >> > can >> >> >> > be >> >> >> >> > > sold to other parties, parties you never intended to have > that >> >> > family >> >> >> >> > > information....... >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > John R. Clarke >> >> >> >> > > Thomasville, GA >> >> >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> > > From: "Bill Brewer" <wwb@ix.netcom.com> >> >> >> >> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 8:37 PM >> >> >> >> > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Ancestry.com charging for One World Tree >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > This whole discussion is getting a little silly. Yes, >> >> > Ancestry.com >> >> >> >> > > > collects information, which they then turn around and >> >> >> >> > > > sell. >> >> >> >> > > > What >> >> >> >> > > > do >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> > > > expect? Do you think any company, or anyone else for that >> >> > matter, >> >> >> >> would >> >> >> >> > > > do your research for you for free? What do you think >> >> > professional >> >> >> >> > > > genealogists have been doing for years? They have been >> >> > collecting >> >> >> >> > > > information and selling it to you. >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Personally, I have submitted my information to World >> >> >> >> > > > Connects. >> >> >> >> > > > I >> >> >> > sent >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> > > > prior to Ancestry taking over Rootsweb, but I have > continued >> > to >> >> >> > update >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> > > > since, and will continue to do so. I have benefited >> >> >> >> > > > immensely >> >> >> >> > > > by >> >> >> >> > > > so >> >> >> >> > doing >> >> >> >> > > > in that mistakes have been corrected, and I have found >> >> >> >> > > > many >> > new >> >> >> >> friends >> >> >> >> > > > and relatives researching the same line. My research has >> >> > expanded >> >> >> > by >> >> >> >> > > > leaps and bounds. >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > While we're on the subject, have you ever wondered why >> > Ancestry >> >> >> >> > > > took >> >> >> >> > over >> >> >> >> > > > Rootsweb? We, the genealogical public, never supported >> > Rootsweb >> >> >> >> > strongly >> >> >> >> > > > enough for it to survive as a non-profit organization. It >> >> > depended >> >> >> > on >> >> >> >> > our >> >> >> >> > > > contributions, both money and data. I contributed both, > but >> > not >> >> >> >> enough >> >> >> >> > of >> >> >> >> > > > us supported them monetarily. >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > As to Ancestry having no competitors...What about > GenCircles, >> >> >> >> > > > Family >> >> >> >> > Tree >> >> >> >> > > > Maker, GenServe, National Genealogical Society, etc., >> >> >> >> > > > etc.? >> >> > There >> >> >> > are >> >> >> >> > > > many sources out there, Ancestry is just one, and they >> >> >> >> > > > have >> >> >> >> > > > never >> >> >> >> forced >> >> >> >> > > > anyone to contribute to their data bases. If you don't > want >> > to >> >> >> > share >> >> >> >> > your >> >> >> >> > > > "hard-earned data" with them, don't. I have and will >> >> >> >> > > > continue >> >> >> >> > > > to >> >> >> >> > > > do >> >> >> >> so. >> >> >> >> > > > We'll see who benefits the most in the long run. >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Finally, no, I didn't know the owners of Ancestry were the >> >> > biggest >> >> >> >> > owners >> >> >> >> > > > of gambling enterprises on the strip in Las Vegas, and now >> > that >> >> >> >> > > > I >> >> >> > have >> >> >> >> > > > been told, my next question is...so what? What does that >> >> >> >> > > > have >> >> >> >> > > > to >> >> >> >> > > > do >> >> >> >> > with >> >> >> >> > > > anything? >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Do we really want to go back to the "good old days," where > we >> >> > each >> >> >> > had >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > > > travel to the countless archives scattered around the > country >> >> > (not >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > > > mention the world)? In my humble opinion, the answer is a >> >> >> > resounding >> >> >> >> > > > "NO!" >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Bill >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >> > > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please > unsubscribe >> >> >> >> > > > Click on the following link and your message is ready to > send >> >> >> >> > > > Mail Mode: >> >> >> >> > > > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >> >> >> >> > > > or- >> >> >> >> > > > Digest Mode: >> >> >> >> > > > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >> > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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