Payne, Number one. Owen is never found as a given name in the families of Thomas DANIEL or Simon DANIEL, Owen's supposed sons, yet their names, Simon and Thomas, flow like water in their families. Number two. It is rare if not improbable to find a family, as documented as these two DANIEL families are, that does not have the name of their primary ancestor, in this case, Owen, included in their family, somewhere. Yet, we never see it again in the first of second generations of these families. Number three. I cannot think of a family in which the name of the primary ancestor does not flow down through the family like water, especially in that time frame. It sure does it in every family I am familiar with. Its use may skip a generation, here an there, but it usually repeats, later. That, contrary to any information you may have, indicates to me there is a high probability that Owen DANIEL not the father of Thomas and Simon, unless his name was held in such ill repute in the family they never wanted to see it mentioned again. I also cannot accept that Simon DANIEL born 1678 did not know the name of his father who died when he was 22 or even Thomas who was 14 when Owen died in 1700. None of this makes sense and flies in the face of both traditions of the time and common sense. As for the mention of Owen O'DANIEL, I have no other information on him than what I listed in the previous post. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > I never worried about Owens's name and a Owen O'Daniel from Duplin being the > name sake. Historically, Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct, is Owen Daniel. He > is mentioned at the end of the Will of Ann Daniel in the following > statement: ("I find of record in the Virginia Land Registry, Book No. 8, > page 428, a grant of130 acres in the Counties of Isle of Wight and > "Nanzimond," Va., to Owen Daniell in 1695" > > So John, how does the Owen O'Daniel of Duplin have anything historically to > do with Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct of Albemarle County, North Carolina? > > Payne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:12 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > > > > We have never been able to figure out where the name, Owen DANIEL, > > supposedly the father of Thomas DANIEL and Simon DANIEL, came from. This > > may be a clue... > > > > <<< > > Bk 1A p. 99 STEPHEN BARFIELD to WILLIAM O'DANIEL, both of Duplin Co., 7 > > July 1783, > > line belonging to a survey granted to JESSE BARFIELD by patent dated 1770. > > Wit: OWEN O'DANIEL, FREDERICK BARFIELD. Oct. Ct. 1784. > > > > Bk 1A p. 95 JONATHAN TAYLOR to BENJAMIN HERRING, both of Duplin Co.. 14 > > Oct 1783, patented by sd. TAYLOR 4 May 1769. > > Wit: WILLIAM O'DANIEL, CHARITY HERRING. Oct.ct. 1784. > > > > Bk 4A p. 167 BENJAMIN HERRING SR. to his son BENJAMIN HERRING JR., 2 Nov > > 1808, for "natural love & affection" 229A in 2 pieces to wit: (1) 227A on > > the West of Herring Branch, beg. at a gum & joining CREECH; (2) 2A joining > > the lower corner of the afsd. land on the ES of sd, branch, the 2A for > > privilege for a mill. > > Wit: ALEX O'DANIEL, BENJN. ( X) CREECH. Jan. Ct. 1810. > > > > Bk 4A p. 408 WILLIAM GLISSON to JOHN BLIZARD, both of Duplin Co., 17 Sep > > 1812. > > Wit: HENRY GRADY, ALEX. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > > > Bk 4A p. 409 STEPHEN GUFFORD to JOHN BLIZARD. both of Duplin Co., 3 Mar > > 1810, for > > 172 pds. 10 shill. 120A on the NS of Goshen Swamp, being part of 3 > patents, > > patented > > by JACOB LAWHAUN, WILLIAM GODWIN & JACOB GLISSON, beg. at a water oak > > ALEXANDER O'DANIEL'S corner near the corner of BLIZARD'S field, to a black > > jack not far from STEPHEN GUFFORD'S house & adj. LEWIS GLISSON & GEORGE > F. > > KORNEGAY. > > Wit: WILLIAM KORNEGAY, AL. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net >