Mike's stuff is great as well! Mike, we may a scenario something like this. If the date of birth for James Daniel of Nash can be established to be about 1725 (Brunswick) then he may be the father of Frederick Daniel of Brunswick/Nash who was born 2 Mar 1755. Also, the Elizabeth "Polly" Daniel born about 1754 was probably the daughter of James and the sister of Frederick. She married the well traveled Howell Flewellen, well traveled in the way he was involved in everybody's business. [13 July 1772 - Howell FLEWELLIN of Halifax Co was deeded land in Edgecombe Co, NC. 26 Nov. 1778 - Howell was bondsman for the marriage of Elizabeth POWELL and Frederick DANIEL in Nash Co, NC. Late 1780s - Howell was administrator for the estate of James DANIEL. 17 Oct 1805 - Howell FLEWELLEN Estate probated in Nash Co, NC, names wife, Elizabeth and children. His will mentions his "land an plantation lying on the east side of beaver dam branch my Hunt plantation and my mill".] Ellen/Flewellen is the same cat! I have cousin Judy's compilation on Frederick that is 3 inches thick and his parentage therein is unknown. Lets look at this statement: [Willie & Lewis were sons of William who married Sarah who is likely a son of Peter of Brunswick and later Halifax. Although we don't know much about Frederick we do know from his pension app that he was from Brunswick Co. and was in Nash when he enlisted. Howell Allen was executor of James Daniel's Halifax will.] Now, there was a William Daniel born in Bertie in 1732 who was the son of Thomas Daniel and Elizabeth Lanier, and he married a Sarah. He had sons named Lewis and Wiley (Willie) Daniel; any chance there is a mix up here? The will for William, son of Peter was inventoried in 1792 when he died in Brunswick Co., Virginia, and the will for William Daniel of Halifax was signed in 1796 and he died in December 1797 and his estate was inventoried in 1798) Gotta run, check on those children?? Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] James Daniel & Elizabeth West thoughts > > > P. A. Miller wrote some great stuff. > > List (and Pam) > > Pam, I will attempt to answer some of the questions you posed in your > post. > > Israel & Elizabeth were in Edgecomb as early as 1758 where a court > document lists them as orphans of William West & Martha. Martha had > remarried (to William West…. really) and William was appointed Guardian. > Interestingly one of the securities was Benjamin Culpepper, grandfather of > Mary Culpepper, wife of David Sion Daniel. > > The William Daniel you see in 1740 must have been producing Bertie Co., > records at that time. There was a very active William in Bertie which I > believe to be Simon's brother but I am not aware if he came as far west as > what is now Nash. > > The property sold by West, Ephraim & Patsy was described as "300 acres on > the north side of Rockey Swamp (another document says west of RS) , which > William WALLACE acquired 28 Apr 1740". These three were not the only > children; in 1795 Shepherd sold his inheritance from Israel West, in 1797 > Milly, whose guardian was Sarah Edwards (dau. Of Peter that married Hugh > Edwards?) sold and in 1802 Margaret (Peggy) and her husband Jonathan > Wiseman sold her inheritance with the sale being examined by Peggy in > Lexington in Rowan Co. In every case the properties were sold to James > Judge. > > I agree if James of Edgecombe/Halifax and James of Nash are the same his > movements appear strange. However, it may be just movement between two > Brunswick “pods”. The Howell Flewellen (Ellen) relationship seems to be > present in both pods. > > I believe the following two independent judgments (one from Nash) against > the same folks suggest some relationship between Frederick & James: > > 776-(647) Peter MORGAN sheriff of Halifax Co. to Willie DANIEL 14 Aug > 1797. By judgments from Nash Co. in favor of Howell F. ELLEN guardian > against the executors of John JONES dec'd; & in favor of David DANIEL (?) > guardian; and in favor of Frederick DANIEL; and in favor of George REEVES. > The court order was Aug Ct 1797. sd Willie DANIEL became highest bidder > for slaves Beck, Lacy. P. MORGAN. Wit: Lewis DANIEL, Robert COCHRAN. Nov > Ct. 1800. L. LONG CCt. [Willie & Lewis were sons of William who married > Sarah who is likely a son of Peter of Brunswick and later Halifax. > Although we don't know much about Frederick we do know from his pension > app that he was from Brunswick Co. and was in Nash when he enlisted. > Howell Allen was executor of James Daniel's Halifax will.] > > > 871-(723) Peter MORGAN high sheriff of Halifax Co, to Isaac HILLIARD, 6 > May 1801. Tamarlane JONES by his guardian Allen JONES recovered against > the heirs of John JONES, Sr. dec'd; John JONES, Robert JONES, Willie > JONES, Judith JONES (widow). Also Sarah EDWARDS guardian of Milly DANIEL > recovered against John, Willey, & Robt JONES as heirs of John JONES Sr. > dec'd. Sd HILLIARD was highest bidder at 1900 pounds. 370 acres surveyed > by THOMAS to sd John JONES dec'd. joining Fishing Creek, Robert INMAN; 100 > acres conveyed by CLARK to John JONES, dec'd., joining sd CLARK, Caleb > ETHERIDGE; 50 acres conveyed by CLARK to John JONES dec'd, joining > ETHERIDGE, sd CLRK, Fishing Creek. P. MORGAN. Wit: John CROWELL, Charles > W. GEE for HARRIS, P. BROWNE. John HALL, L. C>C.C.S.E. [Milly is dau of > James Daniel & Elizabeth West. Although I can't be certain Sarah Edwards > may be Peter Daniel's dau that married Hugh Edwards.] > > As I was researching these families what gave me a problem was the Davids. > As Pam mentions the more prominent David has no apparent connection (that > I could establish) to either the Peter Daniel crowd or to Frederick. > There is however, a David Daniel very prominent in the affairs of > Frederick and James in Nash Co. I wish I could say that this David was > David Sion Daniel, who based on his wife Mary’s (Culpepper) app for his RW > pension states says that he was son of Peter Daniel of Halifax. Other > than the pension app I have learned very little about this David but the > circumstances are such that this may have been him in Nash and there was a > case (the property James sold to Peter) that his name appears in a Halifax > document. We know for a RW pension app fact that Frederick was born in > Brunswick Co., VA. > > More later. > > Mike > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >