I apologize for the hard to read forwarded format of my cousin's email. What he writes is frankly just speculation but I would appreciate it if everyone on the list tears it apart and puts it back together again. Jerry Wayne Murphy is really the best historian our Hiram Daniel family has. He is admin of several Tenn & Alabama lists, and has a website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jwmurphy/ This is in conjunction with my reply to Catherine Burr on her post of William Daniel & Elizabeth Ann Waters - Decatur County, Georgia. Thanks, Clay Daniels --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Jerry W. Murphy <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> wrote: > From: Jerry W. Murphy <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: RE: Hello Cousin > To: "Clay Daniels" <clay.daniels@sbcglobal.net>, aobtx@juno.com, "Robert Daniels" <danielsbob@sbcglobal.net> > Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 11:13 AM > Hi everyone, > This makes me wonder if he's possibly a descendant of the > William Daniel > that was in Buncombe County, North Carolina when our Hiram > Daniel was there. > This William Daniel was born about 1781 in North Carolina > and died about > 1840 in Union County, Georgia. He moved around seemingly a > lot. He was in > 1800 in Pendleton District, South Carolina; 1810&1820 > Buncombe County, North > Carolina; Nov 1821-3 Blount and Jefferson Counties, > Alabama; Bledsoe County, > Tennessee (may have married Sarah Self there); 1822-34 > Habersham County, > Georgia; 1834 Lumpkin County, Georgia due to county line > change. > > His first wife was Elizabeth_______ and his second wife was > Sarah Self. I'm > not sure who his parents were but a few researchers think > his parents were > William Daniel (b. 1745 Ireland, d. 1836 Washington Co., > GA) and Elizabeth > Skinner (b. 1747 Ireland, d. 1837 Washington Co., GA). It > seems all of > William Daniel of Ireland's children died in Georgia or > Alabama. > > Is there anyway to find out if anyone has done the DNA > testing as > descendants of these 2 men named William Daniel? If they > have and didn't > match our Daniel line we can eliminate them as possible > relatives. > > > Jerry W. Murphy > jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com > Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ > Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL, TNHARDIN, TNWASHIN, > TNWAYNE > BRATTON, CAVENDER, COCHRAN, HAFLEY, PATTERSON, SOWERBY > Hardin Co., Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.tngenweb.org/hardin > Wayne Co., Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.tngenweb.org/wayne > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Clay Daniels" <clay.daniels@sbcglobal.net> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:44 AM > To: <aobtx@juno.com>; > "Robert Daniels" <danielsbob@sbcglobal.net>; > "Jerry W. > Murphy" <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> > Subject: Fw: RE: Hello Cousin > > > Hello all. I realize I have dropped the ball and > couldn't see what > > information I had in front of me. > > > > Anne: Go to your FTDNA login page. On the left hand > part of the page under > > My Account select User Preferences. Put a check in the > box to show > > "12-marker matches/close matches". You are missing out > on two of our > > cousins who have only taken the 12 marker test. It's > OK if you restrict > > your setting to only the Daniel DNA project, but > missing out on 12 marker > > matches with real cousins is not a good idea. > > > > This forwarded email is from Bob Daniels who tested > last December. As you > > can see, he traces his roots to Georgia from North > Carolina. > > > > Anne & Bob: Do a bit of brainstorming to see if > you can connect. > > > > Sorry I dropped the ball... > > > > Cousin Clay Daniels > > > > --- On Fri, 12/12/08, Robert Daniels <danielsbob@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > > >> From: Robert Daniels <danielsbob@sbcglobal.net> > >> Subject: RE: Hello Cousin > >> To: clay.daniels@sbcglobal.net > >> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 11:18 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Clay, > >> > >> Thank you for your email > >> response, here with some history > >> from my father. > >> > >> > >> > >> James Daniel (from > >> North Carolina) > >> > >> Russell Daniel (lived > >> around Atlanta Ga) > >> > >> John Daniel (lived in > >> Mineral Wells Tx) > >> > >> Alex Daniels (born in > >> Mineral Wells and is my > >> Grandfather and he added the "s") > >> > >> Fred Daniels (born in Mineral > >> Wells and is my Father) > >> > >> Robert Daniels (me, born > >> in Fort Worth) > >> > >> > >> > >> My father has some more > >> information on this but I need to talk > >> to him to get it straight. > >> > >> > >> > >> Robert > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Clay Daniels > >> [mailto:clay.daniels@sbcglobal.net] > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:13 PM > >> > >> To: danielsbob@sbcglobal.net > >> > >> Cc: don610@peoplepc.com; > cmdaniel@comcast.net; > Faron > >> Daniel > >> > >> Subject: Hello Cousin > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>   Dear Cousin Robert Mitchell > >> Daniels, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>   I notice we have a new cousin in > the > >> Daniel DNA > >>   test. We all descend from a Hiram > Daniel born about > >> 1770 who lived in > >>   western North Carolina in the > late 1700's-early > >> 1800's and who moved west and > >>   died in Rhea Co Tennessee about > 1821. Cousin Faron Daniel > >> descends from > >>   Hiram's son Plummer Daniel b. > 1797 NC who eventually > >> settled in Wayne Co Tenn > >>   where Faron still lives. The > other three of us descend > >> from Plummer's brother > >>   Robert C. Daniel b. 1791 NC who > is buried in what is now > >> Moore Co Tenn. > >>   Cousin Don who lives in Ohio > descends from Robert C's > >> son Thomas, I descend > >>   from Robert C's son Humphrey > Posey Kimsey Daniel, and > >> cousin Toby who > >>   lives in Nashville descends from > Robert C's oldest > >> son Hiram Daniel, who he > >>   obviously named for his father. > There were other sons of > >> Hiram the elder as > >>   well. More on that later. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>   Cousin Don and I are actually > double > >> cousins, in that > >>   Thomas & H.P.K Daniel moved > from Tennessee to > >> Mississippi and married two > >>   Boren sisters. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>   I notice you have the "s". > >> Don't get confused > >>   about that as it is easy to add. > My grandfather and some > >> of his brothers > >>   seemed to have added that, which > makes me wonder if you > >> are not part of my > >>   east Texas cousins. We have > second cousins down near > >> Winnsboro who still just > >>   use Daniel, but everyone knows > everyone. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>   Please write us and let us know > a > >> bit about yourself. I'm > >>   sure we can place you on the > family tree. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>   Clay Daniels > >> > >> > >>   Fort Worth, Texas > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>   By the way, Faron, I seem to > have > >> lost Jim Daniel's and > >>   Jerry Wayne Murphey's email. You > might forward this > >> to them if you have their > >>   email. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >