I thought this note I found was interesting enough to post to the list: <<< 1672, John Russell was imported to Middlesex Co., VA by William Daniel. William Daniel was grandson of Luke Billington, will dated Nov. 13, 1671, Parish of Farnham, Rappahannock Co., VA, which became Richmond Co. ---- Dr. John Russell, b. abt 1646 [?], m. Sept. 11, 1673 to Alicia Billington, dau. of Luke Billington. >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Gloria, if I remember correctly, you family story also says that your ancestor is from the Liberty County group - and that he is buried in Liberty County. I do not see any way that both stories can be true. Jack Butler ----- Original Message ----- From: <Taosbg@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - DANIEL-D Digest V03 #475 > Anne, > I was interested in seeing you mention the French Huguenots as collaterals of > the Daniel line. > My Daniel cousin took the DNA and he matched Lucy's line and was a mutation > off a couple of others. He will not be moved from the story his grandfather > told him of their grandpa Joseph's (Josephus) father being French and fighting at > the seige of Savannah. He deserterd and stayed in this country. > My cousin feels the story goes back far enough it must be true. > Gloria > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >

Anne, I was interested in seeing you mention the French Huguenots as collaterals of the Daniel line. My Daniel cousin took the DNA and he matched Lucy's line and was a mutation off a couple of others. He will not be moved from the story his grandfather told him of their grandpa Joseph's (Josephus) father being French and fighting at the seige of Savannah. He deserterd and stayed in this country. My cousin feels the story goes back far enough it must be true. Gloria

Sherlene: Your and your Uncle Homer are correct - there is no known or documented evidence in this Daniel line (descended from Thomas Daniel, B. 1786, GA) to any Cherry or deCherie that I can find. I checked again, and although I' still stymied on 1786 Thomas' parentage, some of the earlier collaterals to this Daniel line were French Huguenot immigrants into VA, as were your deCherie/Cherry ancestors, but there appears to be no connection other than that early location in VA. I believe the inquiry by Bill was precipitated by the fact that the Cherry plantation established in 1818 with a Spanish land grant, in what was later to be Montgomery Co, TX, before the Stephen F. Austin Expeditions, was purchased sometime around (when - early 1900s?) by Daniel family descendants, whose common grandfather, George Mayfield Daniel, two of his brothers and a sister (all grandchildren of the 1786 Thomas) first came to Montgomery Co in ca. 1868, after the Civil War. In the late 1950s or early 1960s, a little booklet, the "History of the Daniel Family in Texas" by my great aunt, Zonetta Almond Daniel Devine (youngest daughter of George Mayfield Daniel), was written about this Texas part of this Daniel line, from which Bill, Price, others and I are directly descended, and her research may have precipitated Bill's question to Homer Cherry. Although this booklet was privately published (I have a numberd copy), it was reposited in the Dallas Library, and there are some collateral inconsistencies in it disproved by later research. Use carefully. Bill and Price's GGGF, Capt. Hugh Blair Johnston, would have been through their maternal line (Nannie Blanche Partlow), back to Capt. Johnston. Other Daniel grandchildren (through another grandson line of Thomas) also came into TX from AL, but into the north central part of TX, near Olney, and I have recently received documentation on them. Regards, Anne

Jack, I never have put Abraham in the 1762 time frame, I just put that next to his name to differentiate him from other Abrahams. That Jane MOORE he marries is probably the connection to where he came from and most information says she is the d/o Samuel MOORE and Sarah HARDAMAN of Pitt or Edgecombe County, NC. I think Samuel MOORE is tied to the Samuel MOORE family of Pitt but he could be a nephew of this Samuel. What we do know is the SIRMANS are sitting right next to the Robert Lanier DANIEL family in Pitt in 1790. We also know that Josiah SIRMANS married Harty HARDEMAN, d/o Thomas HARDEMAN and Elizabeth, and sister of Sarah who married Samuel MOORE and Winny HARDEMAN who married John MOORE. We also know the father of Samuel MOORE of Pitt, who I think was a father of these two MOORE boys, was a John MOORE and the MOORES were of Princess Anne County, VA and followed the MOYES into Beaufort and later Pitt County, NC. My bet, they are out of this Pitt County, NC bunch because the HARDEMANS are also located right next to this DANIEL bunch in Pitt, as are the MOYES, MOORES, CANNONS, CASONS and the ANDREWS families. One of the families I did not list were the TOMLINSONS, who I will bet were in Pitt but moved to SC before I pick this bunch up in Pitt in 1790. Capt. John TOMLINSON RS-SC (1750-1801), as well as his father William TOMLINSON RS-VA (1730-1789) migrated through NC from Prince William County, VA with this overall bunch because Rebecca Lucretia HARDEMAN married Capt. John TOMLINSON. William TOMLINSON was married to Elizabeth SIRMANS so as you can see, this whole bunch is pretty tightly connected. All we know about Thomas HARDEMAN is he moved to Beaufort County, SC from Pitt County, NC and this matches the migration pattern of this DANIEL bunch . I also know the TOMLINSONS matched the professional and financial profiles of these Pitt County, NC DANIELS to a tee. Rebecca and John TOMLINSON are my maternal 5th great grandparents and they ended up in Bulloch County, GA and their descendants in Clinch County, GA. As I have stated several times, the Abraham DANIEL and Jane MOORE family is collateral to my DANIEL family because the grandson of Abraham, Dr. Thomas Staley DANIEL married Annie Cecile DONOVAN, d/o Nancy Collins DANIEL and Tim DONOVAN of Bethany, now Wadley, Jefferson County, GA. Dr. Daniel was the son of Abraham's son, Enoch DANIEL and his wife, Anne Elizabeth BIRD of Taylor's Creek, Liberty County, GA. Nancy Collins DANIEL was the d/o my GGU, James L. DANIEL (1814-1857) and his first wife, Mary MURPHEY. I have also always thought the STALEY listed as Dr. DANIEL's middle name was STALVEY and not STALEY. The STALVEY family was connected all through the TOMLIINSONS, SIRMANS and their collaterals in Clinch County, GA. I am also a STALVEY descendant. The STALVEYS were from Georgetown, Horry County, SC and migrated to Clinch with this bunch. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1754 Will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC John, if you don't buy the connection of Abraham Daniel of Burke and Liberty Counties in GA to Aaron Daniel, then there is no reason to try to fit him into the 1762 birth period. He only appeared on two census reports: 1820, when he was listed as over 45 years, and in 1830, when he was listed as being between 80 - 90 (born between 1740 and 1750). How does it tell you that they were all born before 1720? I consider myself a fair hand at interpreting old documents, but I must have missed the class that covered that function. I notice that there are no married daughters mentioned - this suggests that at least some of the children were younger at the time of the will. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1754 Will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC > Mike, > Thanks for this copy of this will and there are several things we can > discern from this 1755 will. One, the PARKERS were pretty close to this IOW > bunch, that we already know. Two, the Biblical names, Abraham and Isaac, > were both names within the IOW bunch and from this will, so too was the > name, Ezekiel. Three, we also know this Abraham was not the 1762 Abraham > which we later see down in GA, who some say was a son of Aaron, which I tend > to doubt. This also tells me this Abraham DANIEL, as well as the other boys > listed in this 1755 will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC, were > probably born BEF 1720. > Regardless, I think there is a pretty good chance these Biblical named > DANIELS were probably from the same overall DANIEL family - OPW bunch. DNA > seems to confirm this. > I kind of forget where all of these Biblical names fit into the general > scheme of things but, as I remember, Abraham was the father of David and > David was the father of Isaac, or something along these lines. I listened > in Sunday School when I was a boy but not as good as some --- and it was a > long, long time ago. <grin> > Also, where there is an Abraham and Isaac, do you know what given name is > missing from this Biblical naming scheme -- a "David." So my bet there is > a David floating around this bunch, somewhere, because w/o a David, what is > the need for an Isaac? That David DANIEL (1769-1832) of Chester, SC may > also fit into this IOW bunch at one of these junctures. I also tend to > think that some of the Roger DANIELL bunch may in fact be, IOW DANIELS. > Don't forget the "Big Four" -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John because I am > sure, they did not. Nor Jesse, Joseph and Enoch, all Biblical names. I > would not bet against the fact there was some reasoning to their naming > schemes, either, kind of like the Abraham, David and Isaac scenario I > mentioned, previously. We also know that Matthew and Luke were big time > WHITFIELD names and Aaron DANIEL married a WHITFIELD. > It also seems this Northampton and even some of the Edgecombe and > Tyrrell County, NC bunch just loved these Biblical names, which tells me > there was probably a preacher or two floating around this bunch, somewhere, > and probably pretty close. At least this will also tells us, they took > their religion rather seriously and since the Bible was one of the few books > many of these folks had to read -- it did provide a lot of inspiration to > them as to both the conduct of their lives and the names of their children. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Runforf471@aol.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1754 Will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC > > > John, > > Here is copy that is in the U.S. Gen Web Archives: > In the name of God Amen. I JOHN DANIEL Thirtenth day of November in the year > of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & fifty four. I JOHN DANIEL of the > County of Northampton being sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and > memory thanks be given unto almighty god therefore calling unto mind the > maortality of my body & knowing that it is appointed for all man once to dye > Do > > make and ordane this my Last will & testament in manner & form folloiwng > that > is to > say. First & principaly I give my Soul into the hands of god who Gave it me > & > my body & recommend to the earth to be buryed in Decent and Christian Like > manner at > the Discretion of my Executor here after named nothing doubting but at ye > generall > Resurection I shall Receive ye same againe by the mighty power of God & as > touching ___ ___Estae where with it hath pleased Got to ___ me in this Life > I > give > ___ & bequeath to in manner & form following. Impris. I lend my plantation > to > my well > beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and I give my plantation to my son EZEKIEL DANIEL > and if he dys without are to my son EPHRAIM DANIEL two fethor beds and > furniture > to my wife one pine table one chest hur choice of ___ and all ye hogs Ewes I > have. > ___ ___ of putor her choice ___ ____. Item I given unto my daughter > ELIZABETH DANIEL one fether bed. Itom. I give unto my Daughter SARAH DANIEL > one fether > > bed. Itom. I give unto my Son JOSEPH DANIEL fifty acres of Land more or less > held > by a Deed of John BROWN & three head of Sheep. Itom. I give unto my son JOHN > DANIEL one Sow and pigs. Itom. I give unto my Son ABRAHAM DANIEL one gun > and > I give unto ABRAHAM ISAAC and EPHRAIM the Rest of my Stock Cattle and > hogs. I give unto my wife SARAH DANIEL one aron pot her Choice one frying > pan > > one Woolen one Linnin Wheal and five pounds sixteen shillings in money and > five > stone jugs and six pare of cards one box iron and ___ one hand mill three > chears > three butter pots & loom and geer ye tobacco I leave to pay ye Debts. And I > give unto > my Daughter ELIZABETH DANIEL one Chest 1 ___ & 1 ___ and to my Daughter > SARAH DANIEL one Chest one bofet & one ___ and all moveable estate in doors > and out doors to be equally divided between ABRAHAM, ISAAC & EPHRAIM > DANIEL. > And of this my Last will & testament I make constitute nominate ordain and > appoint my well beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and my son JOHN DANIEL my whole > and sole Executors revoking and disannuling all former wills by have tofore > made > certifying and confirming this and none other to be my last will and > testament. In > witness whereof have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal the day and > year > above written. JOHN DANIEL (his mark) (Seal). Signed Sealed published > pronounced > & declared by ye said Testator to be his last will and testament in presence > of us. > SAMUEL PARKER, JOSEPH DANIEL. Northampton County . February Court 1755. > The within written will was exhibited into court and proved by the oath of > the > subscribing witness thereto; at same time SARAH DANIEL was qualify’d > Executrix > therof which on motion was ordered to be ____. (Northampton Co., NC, Will Bk > ___, p. ___). > > Mike Daniel > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the > subject of a reply message. > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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John, if you don't buy the connection of Abraham Daniel of Burke and Liberty Counties in GA to Aaron Daniel, then there is no reason to try to fit him into the 1762 birth period. He only appeared on two census reports: 1820, when he was listed as over 45 years, and in 1830, when he was listed as being between 80 - 90 (born between 1740 and 1750). How does it tell you that they were all born before 1720? I consider myself a fair hand at interpreting old documents, but I must have missed the class that covered that function. I notice that there are no married daughters mentioned - this suggests that at least some of the children were younger at the time of the will. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1754 Will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC > Mike, > Thanks for this copy of this will and there are several things we can > discern from this 1755 will. One, the PARKERS were pretty close to this IOW > bunch, that we already know. Two, the Biblical names, Abraham and Isaac, > were both names within the IOW bunch and from this will, so too was the > name, Ezekiel. Three, we also know this Abraham was not the 1762 Abraham > which we later see down in GA, who some say was a son of Aaron, which I tend > to doubt. This also tells me this Abraham DANIEL, as well as the other boys > listed in this 1755 will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC, were > probably born BEF 1720. > Regardless, I think there is a pretty good chance these Biblical named > DANIELS were probably from the same overall DANIEL family - OPW bunch. DNA > seems to confirm this. > I kind of forget where all of these Biblical names fit into the general > scheme of things but, as I remember, Abraham was the father of David and > David was the father of Isaac, or something along these lines. I listened > in Sunday School when I was a boy but not as good as some --- and it was a > long, long time ago. <grin> > Also, where there is an Abraham and Isaac, do you know what given name is > missing from this Biblical naming scheme -- a "David." So my bet there is > a David floating around this bunch, somewhere, because w/o a David, what is > the need for an Isaac? That David DANIEL (1769-1832) of Chester, SC may > also fit into this IOW bunch at one of these junctures. I also tend to > think that some of the Roger DANIELL bunch may in fact be, IOW DANIELS. > Don't forget the "Big Four" -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John because I am > sure, they did not. Nor Jesse, Joseph and Enoch, all Biblical names. I > would not bet against the fact there was some reasoning to their naming > schemes, either, kind of like the Abraham, David and Isaac scenario I > mentioned, previously. We also know that Matthew and Luke were big time > WHITFIELD names and Aaron DANIEL married a WHITFIELD. > It also seems this Northampton and even some of the Edgecombe and > Tyrrell County, NC bunch just loved these Biblical names, which tells me > there was probably a preacher or two floating around this bunch, somewhere, > and probably pretty close. At least this will also tells us, they took > their religion rather seriously and since the Bible was one of the few books > many of these folks had to read -- it did provide a lot of inspiration to > them as to both the conduct of their lives and the names of their children. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Runforf471@aol.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1754 Will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC > > > John, > > Here is copy that is in the U.S. Gen Web Archives: > In the name of God Amen. I JOHN DANIEL Thirtenth day of November in the year > of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & fifty four. I JOHN DANIEL of the > County of Northampton being sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and > memory thanks be given unto almighty god therefore calling unto mind the > maortality of my body & knowing that it is appointed for all man once to dye > Do > > make and ordane this my Last will & testament in manner & form folloiwng > that > is to > say. First & principaly I give my Soul into the hands of god who Gave it me > & > my body & recommend to the earth to be buryed in Decent and Christian Like > manner at > the Discretion of my Executor here after named nothing doubting but at ye > generall > Resurection I shall Receive ye same againe by the mighty power of God & as > touching ___ ___Estae where with it hath pleased Got to ___ me in this Life > I > give > ___ & bequeath to in manner & form following. Impris. I lend my plantation > to > my well > beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and I give my plantation to my son EZEKIEL DANIEL > and if he dys without are to my son EPHRAIM DANIEL two fethor beds and > furniture > to my wife one pine table one chest hur choice of ___ and all ye hogs Ewes I > have. > ___ ___ of putor her choice ___ ____. Item I given unto my daughter > ELIZABETH DANIEL one fether bed. Itom. I give unto my Daughter SARAH DANIEL > one fether > > bed. Itom. I give unto my Son JOSEPH DANIEL fifty acres of Land more or less > held > by a Deed of John BROWN & three head of Sheep. Itom. I give unto my son JOHN > DANIEL one Sow and pigs. Itom. I give unto my Son ABRAHAM DANIEL one gun > and > I give unto ABRAHAM ISAAC and EPHRAIM the Rest of my Stock Cattle and > hogs. I give unto my wife SARAH DANIEL one aron pot her Choice one frying > pan > > one Woolen one Linnin Wheal and five pounds sixteen shillings in money and > five > stone jugs and six pare of cards one box iron and ___ one hand mill three > chears > three butter pots & loom and geer ye tobacco I leave to pay ye Debts. And I > give unto > my Daughter ELIZABETH DANIEL one Chest 1 ___ & 1 ___ and to my Daughter > SARAH DANIEL one Chest one bofet & one ___ and all moveable estate in doors > and out doors to be equally divided between ABRAHAM, ISAAC & EPHRAIM > DANIEL. > And of this my Last will & testament I make constitute nominate ordain and > appoint my well beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and my son JOHN DANIEL my whole > and sole Executors revoking and disannuling all former wills by have tofore > made > certifying and confirming this and none other to be my last will and > testament. In > witness whereof have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal the day and > year > above written. JOHN DANIEL (his mark) (Seal). Signed Sealed published > pronounced > & declared by ye said Testator to be his last will and testament in presence > of us. > SAMUEL PARKER, JOSEPH DANIEL. Northampton County . February Court 1755. > The within written will was exhibited into court and proved by the oath of > the > subscribing witness thereto; at same time SARAH DANIEL was qualify’d > Executrix > therof which on motion was ordered to be ____. (Northampton Co., NC, Will Bk > ___, p. ___). > > Mike Daniel > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the > subject of a reply message. > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > Mail Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > or- > Digest Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

John, Don't forget Josiah was also a Bible name. IF I remember correctly he was a king. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: John R. Clarke To: DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1754 Will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC Mike, Thanks for this copy of this will and there are several things we can discern from this 1755 will. One, the PARKERS were pretty close to this IOW bunch, that we already know. Two, the Biblical names, Abraham and Isaac, were both names within the IOW bunch and from this will, so too was the name, Ezekiel. Three, we also know this Abraham was not the 1762 Abraham which we later see down in GA, who some say was a son of Aaron, which I tend to doubt. This also tells me this Abraham DANIEL, as well as the other boys listed in this 1755 will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC, were probably born BEF 1720. Regardless, I think there is a pretty good chance these Biblical named DANIELS were probably from the same overall DANIEL family - OPW bunch. DNA seems to confirm this. I kind of forget where all of these Biblical names fit into the general scheme of things but, as I remember, Abraham was the father of David and David was the father of Isaac, or something along these lines. I listened in Sunday School when I was a boy but not as good as some --- and it was a long, long time ago. <grin> Also, where there is an Abraham and Isaac, do you know what given name is missing from this Biblical naming scheme -- a "David." So my bet there is a David floating around this bunch, somewhere, because w/o a David, what is the need for an Isaac? That David DANIEL (1769-1832) of Chester, SC may also fit into this IOW bunch at one of these junctures. I also tend to think that some of the Roger DANIELL bunch may in fact be, IOW DANIELS. Don't forget the "Big Four" -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John because I am sure, they did not. Nor Jesse, Joseph and Enoch, all Biblical names. I would not bet against the fact there was some reasoning to their naming schemes, either, kind of like the Abraham, David and Isaac scenario I mentioned, previously. We also know that Matthew and Luke were big time WHITFIELD names and Aaron DANIEL married a WHITFIELD. It also seems this Northampton and even some of the Edgecombe and Tyrrell County, NC bunch just loved these Biblical names, which tells me there was probably a preacher or two floating around this bunch, somewhere, and probably pretty close. At least this will also tells us, they took their religion rather seriously and since the Bible was one of the few books many of these folks had to read -- it did provide a lot of inspiration to them as to both the conduct of their lives and the names of their children. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1754 Will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC John, Here is copy that is in the U.S. Gen Web Archives: In the name of God Amen. I JOHN DANIEL Thirtenth day of November in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & fifty four. I JOHN DANIEL of the County of Northampton being sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and memory thanks be given unto almighty god therefore calling unto mind the maortality of my body & knowing that it is appointed for all man once to dye Do make and ordane this my Last will & testament in manner & form folloiwng that is to say. First & principaly I give my Soul into the hands of god who Gave it me & my body & recommend to the earth to be buryed in Decent and Christian Like manner at the Discretion of my Executor here after named nothing doubting but at ye generall Resurection I shall Receive ye same againe by the mighty power of God & as touching ___ ___Estae where with it hath pleased Got to ___ me in this Life I give ___ & bequeath to in manner & form following. Impris. I lend my plantation to my well beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and I give my plantation to my son EZEKIEL DANIEL and if he dys without are to my son EPHRAIM DANIEL two fethor beds and furniture to my wife one pine table one chest hur choice of ___ and all ye hogs Ewes I have. ___ ___ of putor her choice ___ ____. Item I given unto my daughter ELIZABETH DANIEL one fether bed. Itom. I give unto my Daughter SARAH DANIEL one fether bed. Itom. I give unto my Son JOSEPH DANIEL fifty acres of Land more or less held by a Deed of John BROWN & three head of Sheep. Itom. I give unto my son JOHN DANIEL one Sow and pigs. Itom. I give unto my Son ABRAHAM DANIEL one gun and I give unto ABRAHAM ISAAC and EPHRAIM the Rest of my Stock Cattle and hogs. I give unto my wife SARAH DANIEL one aron pot her Choice one frying pan one Woolen one Linnin Wheal and five pounds sixteen shillings in money and five stone jugs and six pare of cards one box iron and ___ one hand mill three chears three butter pots & loom and geer ye tobacco I leave to pay ye Debts. And I give unto my Daughter ELIZABETH DANIEL one Chest 1 ___ & 1 ___ and to my Daughter SARAH DANIEL one Chest one bofet & one ___ and all moveable estate in doors and out doors to be equally divided between ABRAHAM, ISAAC & EPHRAIM DANIEL. And of this my Last will & testament I make constitute nominate ordain and appoint my well beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and my son JOHN DANIEL my whole and sole Executors revoking and disannuling all former wills by have tofore made certifying and confirming this and none other to be my last will and testament. In witness whereof have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal the day and year above written. JOHN DANIEL (his mark) (Seal). Signed Sealed published pronounced & declared by ye said Testator to be his last will and testament in presence of us. SAMUEL PARKER, JOSEPH DANIEL. Northampton County . February Court 1755. The within written will was exhibited into court and proved by the oath of the subscribing witness thereto; at same time SARAH DANIEL was qualify’d Executrix therof which on motion was ordered to be ____. (Northampton Co., NC, Will Bk ___, p. ___). 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LOL, of course, I meant to say that I am the gggg-granddaughter of Aaron Cherry, Sr.! Sherlene Mats wrote: > I am the granddaughter of Aaron Cherry, Sr. Homer Cherry, my > grandmother's first cousin, and the Daniel boys were good friends and > did some genealogy together back when Bill was governor of Guam > > Homer sent my grandmother the following: > > "Bill Daniel is not a descendant of Captain A. C. Daniel, who was a > soldier in the Civil War. There are no descendants of Captain Daniel > and Estella Cherry by the Daniel name. Both of their sons died before > they were one year old. However, Bill Daniel is zealous about the > Daniel - Cherry connection. We sent him a copy of the page of the > genealogy of Estella Cherry, while he was Governor of Guam, and he had > a photostatic copy made of it to send to his brother (Price Daniel, > the Governor of Texas.) > > Signed Homer Cherry > > Copy" > > In the Houston Chronicle, pg 10, section 1; Tuesday, October 7, 1986, > an article entitled "Historic town goes to college in Waco" states: > > "Founder of the settlement was Aaron Cherry, Sr., who came to Texas in > 1818, made friends with the Coushatta Indians and built his plantation > house on a bluff near the Trinity River. His friends and neighbors > included Gen. Sam Houston and Gov. Daniel's great-great-grandfather, > Capt. Hugh Blair Johnston, first alcalde (mayor) of Liberty. > > When the Daniel's became the fourth owners of the plantation in 1949, > the settlement had practically gone back to jungle..." > > The book Liberty, Liberty County, and the Atascosito District, by > Miriam Partlow, Introduction by Price Daniel; pg 302, lists H. B. > Johnston, along with Aaron Cherry, his son John (my ggg-grandfather) > as having "Markers were permanently placed or delivered, to the > following grants:" > > All very interesting facts, I think. Our ancestors shared a very long > history together. I suspect there may be more "mingling" of their > blood than was discovered by Homer, at the time. Regardless, the > Cherry family has, until present day, kept close relations with the > Daniels and the Coushatta Indians. We'd hope for that history to be > rekindled. So many traditions have been lost in the late 20th and > into the 21st Centuries. Isn't that one reason for this re-surgence > of interest in Genealogy? > > Warm Regards, > Sherlene

Wanda, Like, I said - I slept a lot in Sunday School. <grin> Known to talk a little too much, too, and a Bible thumper is one thing I have never been accused of being. <grin> However, I think this is the scheme of where these names came from and probably a good naming sequence for this bunch. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <WANDABUG1@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1754 Will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC > John, Abraham was the father of Isaac; Isaac begat Jacob; Jacob begat Joseph. > David, son of Jesse, wasn't born until after the Israelites were in Canaan. > > Guess I paid more attention in Sunday school. <grin> Wanda > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not allowed on this list. > >

I am the granddaughter of Aaron Cherry, Sr. Homer Cherry, my grandmother's first cousin, and the Daniel boys were good friends and did some genealogy together back when Bill was governor of Guam Homer sent my grandmother the following: "Bill Daniel is not a descendant of Captain A. C. Daniel, who was a soldier in the Civil War. There are no descendants of Captain Daniel and Estella Cherry by the Daniel name. Both of their sons died before they were one year old. However, Bill Daniel is zealous about the Daniel - Cherry connection. We sent him a copy of the page of the genealogy of Estella Cherry, while he was Governor of Guam, and he had a photostatic copy made of it to send to his brother (Price Daniel, the Governor of Texas.) Signed Homer Cherry Copy" In the Houston Chronicle, pg 10, section 1; Tuesday, October 7, 1986, an article entitled "Historic town goes to college in Waco" states: "Founder of the settlement was Aaron Cherry, Sr., who came to Texas in 1818, made friends with the Coushatta Indians and built his plantation house on a bluff near the Trinity River. His friends and neighbors included Gen. Sam Houston and Gov. Daniel's great-great-grandfather, Capt. Hugh Blair Johnston, first alcalde (mayor) of Liberty. When the Daniel's became the fourth owners of the plantation in 1949, the settlement had practically gone back to jungle..." The book Liberty, Liberty County, and the Atascosito District, by Miriam Partlow, Introduction by Price Daniel; pg 302, lists H. B. Johnston, along with Aaron Cherry, his son John (my ggg-grandfather) as having "Markers were permanently placed or delivered, to the following grants:" All very interesting facts, I think. Our ancestors shared a very long history together. I suspect there may be more "mingling" of their blood than was discovered by Homer, at the time. Regardless, the Cherry family has, until present day, kept close relations with the Daniels and the Coushatta Indians. We'd hope for that history to be rekindled. So many traditions have been lost in the late 20th and into the 21st Centuries. Isn't that one reason for this re-surgence of interest in Genealogy? Warm Regards, Sherlene

John, Abraham was the father of Isaac; Isaac begat Jacob; Jacob begat Joseph. David, son of Jesse, wasn't born until after the Israelites were in Canaan. Guess I paid more attention in Sunday school. <grin> Wanda

Doc, Maybe I can help you some with the NORRIS's. There was a Thomas NORRIS, Esq. who died in Morgan County, GA in 1816. I am fairly sure he was the same Thomas NORRIS who was formerly of Edgefield, SC and is mentioned in deeds of that place in the 1810 time frame. There is also a Norrisville in Emanuel County, GA and it has to be named for a NORRIS, or so it would seem. I have never been able to figure out how these various NORRIS boys connect, if at all. However, I know there were DANIELS in all three of these locations. I also am a NORRIS descendant. Jane NORRIS (ABT 1790-1844) was the wife of Louis O. RENEAU, Esq. (1784-1863) of Jefferson County, TN. Louis died in Savannah, GA in 1863, which is not that far from either Edgefield or Emanuel County. "They say," that Jane NORRIS was the d/o a Thomas NORRIS, Esq. RS-MD but I do not know. Some also say she was also a MORRIS but I doubt that since her son was named, Norris RENEAU. I do know that her son, Norris RENEAU (b. ABT 1830) did during the CW -- he ran a fleet of privateers out of Savannah for the CSN. His older brother, my 2nd GGF, Russell, was a Methodist Minister in the GA Conference but by the time of the CW he was living in Ft. Smith, AR. The RENEAUS go back to the de RENAULDS in France and RENEAUS later in Manakin Township, VA - Huguenots, along with the LANIERS. One of the interesting connections I see in this bunch is the link to the SWANNS, a name we also see up in NC around some of the IOW DANIEL bunch. The children of Louis O. and Jane Norris RENEAU married into the STOCKTON (my line), SWANN, MATHIS, CATE, FLOYD, ATCHLEY, HIGDON, JENKINS and MILLER families. One name that floats around my Reneau-Stockton bunch is the name, Samuel Locke RENEAU, and I have never been able to figure out the LCOKE connection unless he was named for John LOCKE. All I can tell you about RENEAUS is - they migrated from the Manikin Township area of Virginia through PW County, VA to the Upper Neck area along the KY, PA and VA border. They then spread over into to the Frederick County, VA and Washington County, PA area, where they split up with the Southern line of this family keeping the RENEAU spelling and the Yankee line, adopting the more common RENO spelling. The RENEAUS also migrated south into the Jefferson County, TN area some time after the RW in company with the family of Gen. John SEVIER, with whom they were collateral. Other collateral families were the THORNS of PW County, VA, the RAMSEYS of the New Castle, MD, the FLEMMINGS of Botetourt County, Virginia, the ALEXANDERS of Frederick County, MD and the CHRISTANS of Botetourt County, Virginia. I do not know how the NORRIS family plays into all of this but I assume they must be out of this overall bunch....... John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Docjones35" <cjones5@cfl.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: [DANIEL-L] William & Ebenezer Daniel-1850 > In the 1850 Dallas County AL Census, William (16) and Ebenezer (18) Daniel are in the household of John McIlroy and they are listed as students. > > Is anyone researching either of these 2 individuals and if so, would you be willing to share some information?? > > I am looking for a William James Daniel who married Nancy Angeline Norris in Dallas County in 1853. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.... C B (Doc) Jones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. > >

Mike, Thanks for this copy of this will and there are several things we can discern from this 1755 will. One, the PARKERS were pretty close to this IOW bunch, that we already know. Two, the Biblical names, Abraham and Isaac, were both names within the IOW bunch and from this will, so too was the name, Ezekiel. Three, we also know this Abraham was not the 1762 Abraham which we later see down in GA, who some say was a son of Aaron, which I tend to doubt. This also tells me this Abraham DANIEL, as well as the other boys listed in this 1755 will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC, were probably born BEF 1720. Regardless, I think there is a pretty good chance these Biblical named DANIELS were probably from the same overall DANIEL family - OPW bunch. DNA seems to confirm this. I kind of forget where all of these Biblical names fit into the general scheme of things but, as I remember, Abraham was the father of David and David was the father of Isaac, or something along these lines. I listened in Sunday School when I was a boy but not as good as some --- and it was a long, long time ago. <grin> Also, where there is an Abraham and Isaac, do you know what given name is missing from this Biblical naming scheme -- a "David." So my bet there is a David floating around this bunch, somewhere, because w/o a David, what is the need for an Isaac? That David DANIEL (1769-1832) of Chester, SC may also fit into this IOW bunch at one of these junctures. I also tend to think that some of the Roger DANIELL bunch may in fact be, IOW DANIELS. Don't forget the "Big Four" -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John because I am sure, they did not. Nor Jesse, Joseph and Enoch, all Biblical names. I would not bet against the fact there was some reasoning to their naming schemes, either, kind of like the Abraham, David and Isaac scenario I mentioned, previously. We also know that Matthew and Luke were big time WHITFIELD names and Aaron DANIEL married a WHITFIELD. It also seems this Northampton and even some of the Edgecombe and Tyrrell County, NC bunch just loved these Biblical names, which tells me there was probably a preacher or two floating around this bunch, somewhere, and probably pretty close. At least this will also tells us, they took their religion rather seriously and since the Bible was one of the few books many of these folks had to read -- it did provide a lot of inspiration to them as to both the conduct of their lives and the names of their children. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1754 Will of John DANIEL of Northampton County, NC John, Here is copy that is in the U.S. Gen Web Archives: In the name of God Amen. I JOHN DANIEL Thirtenth day of November in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & fifty four. I JOHN DANIEL of the County of Northampton being sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and memory thanks be given unto almighty god therefore calling unto mind the maortality of my body & knowing that it is appointed for all man once to dye Do make and ordane this my Last will & testament in manner & form folloiwng that is to say. First & principaly I give my Soul into the hands of god who Gave it me & my body & recommend to the earth to be buryed in Decent and Christian Like manner at the Discretion of my Executor here after named nothing doubting but at ye generall Resurection I shall Receive ye same againe by the mighty power of God & as touching ___ ___Estae where with it hath pleased Got to ___ me in this Life I give ___ & bequeath to in manner & form following. Impris. I lend my plantation to my well beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and I give my plantation to my son EZEKIEL DANIEL and if he dys without are to my son EPHRAIM DANIEL two fethor beds and furniture to my wife one pine table one chest hur choice of ___ and all ye hogs Ewes I have. ___ ___ of putor her choice ___ ____. Item I given unto my daughter ELIZABETH DANIEL one fether bed. Itom. I give unto my Daughter SARAH DANIEL one fether bed. Itom. I give unto my Son JOSEPH DANIEL fifty acres of Land more or less held by a Deed of John BROWN & three head of Sheep. Itom. I give unto my son JOHN DANIEL one Sow and pigs. Itom. I give unto my Son ABRAHAM DANIEL one gun and I give unto ABRAHAM ISAAC and EPHRAIM the Rest of my Stock Cattle and hogs. I give unto my wife SARAH DANIEL one aron pot her Choice one frying pan one Woolen one Linnin Wheal and five pounds sixteen shillings in money and five stone jugs and six pare of cards one box iron and ___ one hand mill three chears three butter pots & loom and geer ye tobacco I leave to pay ye Debts. And I give unto my Daughter ELIZABETH DANIEL one Chest 1 ___ & 1 ___ and to my Daughter SARAH DANIEL one Chest one bofet & one ___ and all moveable estate in doors and out doors to be equally divided between ABRAHAM, ISAAC & EPHRAIM DANIEL. And of this my Last will & testament I make constitute nominate ordain and appoint my well beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and my son JOHN DANIEL my whole and sole Executors revoking and disannuling all former wills by have tofore made certifying and confirming this and none other to be my last will and testament. In witness whereof have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal the day and year above written. JOHN DANIEL (his mark) (Seal). Signed Sealed published pronounced & declared by ye said Testator to be his last will and testament in presence of us. SAMUEL PARKER, JOSEPH DANIEL. Northampton County . February Court 1755. The within written will was exhibited into court and proved by the oath of the subscribing witness thereto; at same time SARAH DANIEL was qualify’d Executrix therof which on motion was ordered to be ____. (Northampton Co., NC, Will Bk ___, p. ___). Mike Daniel ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message.

John, Here is copy that is in the U.S. Gen Web Archives: In the name of God Amen. I JOHN DANIEL Thirtenth day of November in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & fifty four. I JOHN DANIEL of the County of Northampton being sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and memory thanks be given unto almighty god therefore calling unto mind the maortality of my body & knowing that it is appointed for all man once to dye Do make and ordane this my Last will & testament in manner & form folloiwng that is to say. First & principaly I give my Soul into the hands of god who Gave it me & my body & recommend to the earth to be buryed in Decent and Christian Like manner at the Discretion of my Executor here after named nothing doubting but at ye generall Resurection I shall Receive ye same againe by the mighty power of God & as touching ___ ___Estae where with it hath pleased Got to ___ me in this Life I give ___ & bequeath to in manner & form following. Impris. I lend my plantation to my well beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and I give my plantation to my son EZEKIEL DANIEL and if he dys without are to my son EPHRAIM DANIEL two fethor beds and furniture to my wife one pine table one chest hur choice of ___ and all ye hogs Ewes I have. ___ ___ of putor her choice ___ ____. Item I given unto my daughter ELIZABETH DANIEL one fether bed. Itom. I give unto my Daughter SARAH DANIEL one fether bed. Itom. I give unto my Son JOSEPH DANIEL fifty acres of Land more or less held by a Deed of John BROWN & three head of Sheep. Itom. I give unto my son JOHN DANIEL one Sow and pigs. Itom. I give unto my Son ABRAHAM DANIEL one gun and I give unto ABRAHAM ISAAC and EPHRAIM the Rest of my Stock Cattle and hogs. I give unto my wife SARAH DANIEL one aron pot her Choice one frying pan one Woolen one Linnin Wheal and five pounds sixteen shillings in money and five stone jugs and six pare of cards one box iron and ___ one hand mill three chears three butter pots & loom and geer ye tobacco I leave to pay ye Debts. And I give unto my Daughter ELIZABETH DANIEL one Chest 1 ___ & 1 ___ and to my Daughter SARAH DANIEL one Chest one bofet & one ___ and all moveable estate in doors and out doors to be equally divided between ABRAHAM, ISAAC & EPHRAIM DANIEL. And of this my Last will & testament I make constitute nominate ordain and appoint my well beloved wife SARAH DANIEL and my son JOHN DANIEL my whole and sole Executors revoking and disannuling all former wills by have tofore made certifying and confirming this and none other to be my last will and testament. In witness whereof have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal the day and year above written. JOHN DANIEL (his mark) (Seal). Signed Sealed published pronounced & declared by ye said Testator to be his last will and testament in presence of us. SAMUEL PARKER, JOSEPH DANIEL. Northampton County . February Court 1755. The within written will was exhibited into court and proved by the oath of the subscribing witness thereto; at same time SARAH DANIEL was qualify’d Executrix therof which on motion was ordered to be ____. (Northampton Co., NC, Will Bk ___, p. ___). Mike Daniel

Good Evening, Sherline: Bill and Price are my cousins, and this Daniel family is one of my maternal direct lines. Interested in learning your connection to this family. I have this line documented back to 1786, and collaterals beyond, but don't recognize the name Johnston - a spousal maiden name in the line in Texas, perhaps? Look forward to hearing from you. Anne Richardson, TX aobtx@juno.com

Hi Ruth...good to hear from you again...Here is what I am looking at...Norris and McElroy (McIlroy is a spelling variant) seemed to come together in North Carolina prior to the move to GA...The families stuck together (but I find no evidence of marriage between them) and from Wilkes/Oglethorpe County GA they went to Jasper County and then on to Harris County. Now when William Daniel was in the household of McIlroy in 1850, and I think he is the same one who married Nancy Angeline Norris, it sort of raises a red flag.....Problem is I cannot find out where William Daniel came from and I cannot prove that he is the same one that was in the McIlroy listing in 1850.....Age and location will fit, but that does not constitute a fact.......maybe someone will see this and it will ring a bell...thanks for the reply... docjones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Newlan" <ruthann@saw.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] William & Ebenezer Daniel-1850 > Hi Doc: > > Have you ever intertained that the McIlroy in Dallas Co., AL might be part > of the McElroy family in that county? I know that Davenport Graves married > a Nancy McElroy & some of her family lived in Dallas Co & can be found there > as early as the 1820 census. > > Davenport Graves & Nancy McElroy's daughter - Amy Graves married Berrien > McPherson Davis - son of John Davis & Elizabeth Murphy, who were the in-law > of James Daniel. > > I've been spending as much time as possible looking at families in the > Lowndes & Dallas Counties. The families seem to have many connections & > families that started out in Lowndes many times moved on to Dallas Co later. > > Take Care & Happy Thanksgiving > Ruth in Portland, OR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Docjones35" <cjones5@cfl.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:00 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] William & Ebenezer Daniel-1850 > > > > In the 1850 Dallas County AL Census, William (16) and Ebenezer (18) Daniel > are in the household of John McIlroy and they are listed as students. > > > > Is anyone researching either of these 2 individuals and if so, would you > be willing to share some information?? > > > > I am looking for a William James Daniel who married Nancy Angeline Norris > in Dallas County in 1853. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank > you.... C B (Doc) Jones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > the subject of a reply message. > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >

In the 1850 Dallas County AL Census, William (16) and Ebenezer (18) Daniel are in the household of John McIlroy and they are listed as students. Is anyone researching either of these 2 individuals and if so, would you be willing to share some information?? I am looking for a William James Daniel who married Nancy Angeline Norris in Dallas County in 1853. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.... C B (Doc) Jones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com

Bill Daniel (of Texas) m. Vara Faye (poss. Vera) They had 4 children gg-grandson of Capt. Hugh Blair Johnston, 1st Alcalde (mayor) of Liberty, TX. Also, seeking information on family of Texas Governor Price Daniel. TIA, Sherlene

May All the DANIEL List Members Have a Very Blessed Thanksgiving form all the DANIEL's and collaterals here in Alabama. (That's Mobile Home Country Alabama to you ,John. BIG GRIN) Brenda in Talladega, Alabama

Hi Doc: Have you ever intertained that the McIlroy in Dallas Co., AL might be part of the McElroy family in that county? I know that Davenport Graves married a Nancy McElroy & some of her family lived in Dallas Co & can be found there as early as the 1820 census. Davenport Graves & Nancy McElroy's daughter - Amy Graves married Berrien McPherson Davis - son of John Davis & Elizabeth Murphy, who were the in-law of James Daniel. I've been spending as much time as possible looking at families in the Lowndes & Dallas Counties. The families seem to have many connections & families that started out in Lowndes many times moved on to Dallas Co later. Take Care & Happy Thanksgiving Ruth in Portland, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Docjones35" <cjones5@cfl.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] William & Ebenezer Daniel-1850 > In the 1850 Dallas County AL Census, William (16) and Ebenezer (18) Daniel are in the household of John McIlroy and they are listed as students. > > Is anyone researching either of these 2 individuals and if so, would you be willing to share some information?? > > I am looking for a William James Daniel who married Nancy Angeline Norris in Dallas County in 1853. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.... C B (Doc) Jones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. >