Here is the will of Jane Ewing Daniel in case it hasn't been shared. Payne LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF JANE E. DANIEL GEORGIA In the name of God Amen. WILKES COUNTY I Jane E. Daniel of said State and County, being of advanced age and knowing that I must shortly depart from this world deem it right and proper both as it respects myself and my family that I should make a disposition of the property with which a Kind Providence has blessed me. I therefore make this my last will and testament hereby revoking and annulling all other heretofore made by me. Item 1st. I give and bequeath to my grandson Andrew G. McJunkin and a Bay Mare Colt about 1 yr. old. Item 2nd. I give and bequeath to my grandaughter Sarah A. McJunkin a Negro child names Amanda about 7 months old. Item 3rd. I give and bequeath to my three grand children James C. Goodrum, Mary J. Goodrum, and Emeline E. Goodrum children of my daughter Emeline E. Goodrum now dec'd the sum of five hundred and fifty dollars each one. Item 4th I give and bequeath to my son Robert C. Daniel one fourth part of all the residue of my Estate both real and personal after deducting the above mentioned special bequests. Item 5th I give and bequeath to my son Robert C. Daniel one fourth part of all my Estate both real and personal (after deducting the before mention special requests) to hold the same as trustee for the use of my five grand children viz. Andrew C. McJunkin, Sarah A. McJunkin, Samuel McJunkin, Mary J. McJunkin and Robert C. McJunkin and my will is that each one of them shall receive from the above mentioned Robert C. Daniel trustee their portions as follows viz. the first one which becomes of age or marries to receive one fifth part of the whole amount of the above named legacy at that time, the next one fourth part of the amount of the residue at the time of becoming of age or marrying and so on of all the others each one receiving their due proportion of the amount at the time of becoming of age or marrying. Item 6th. I give and bequeath to my daughter Mary E. Butler wife of Edmund U. Butler and to her children by her present or any future husband free from the dispostion of her present or any future husband one fourth part of all My Estate both real and personal (after deducting the before mentioned special bequests) to my said daughter and her children forever, and I do hereby appoint the above named Edmund U. Butler trustee for the property herein bequeathed to my daughter Mary E. Butler and her children. Item 7th I give and bequeath to my son Samuel E. Daniel one fourth part of all my Estate both real and personal (after deducting the before mentioned special bequests) and my will is that he take all my interest in the tract of land on which I now live (it being one half) as part of his legacy at the sum fifteen hundred dollars. Item 8th I do hereby constitute and appoint my son Robert C. Daniel sole Executor of this my last will and testament - May 26 1847. Jane E. Daniel Signed, sealed, declared and published by Jane E. Daniel as her last will and testament in the presence of us the subscribers who subscribed our names in presence of said Testator and or each other this May 26, 1847 James T. Hackney, Ambron J. Bramlett; Same Glenn

Ruth: Re: Charles David Daniel - we may be on to something here. Mother always knew that at least two or three of 1786 Thomas' other grandsons (sons of Seaborn John Daniel, fourth and last of old Thomas' children) came to TX at or about the time that George Mayfield did, ca. 1868, because of a letter written by Seaborn John to his youngest daughter, Nissia "Nancy" Daniel Harwell in Columbus,GA, shortly before his death in 1890 in AL, asking if she had heard from "the boys in Texas". She never located them, but about a year ago, I heard from a newly found step-cousin in Austin, at the Capitol, a direct descendant of the step-daughter of George Mayfield's older sister, Martha Louise, who married a widower (James Matheson, b. Scotland, CSA vet), and it seems George Mayfield was the minister who performed the wedding ceremony for the step-daughter's wedding here in TX, says he has the info on George's older brothers, John T (CSA), and Joseph who came to TX. I visited this Matheson's great grandson, also a James Matheson, retired Baptist minister and teacher, in Columbus, GA when I was in GA. in September researching. This Daniel line is big-time on Baptists ministers, elders, lay preachers and missionaries down to recent date, as far as I can discern. Since a number of George Mayfield Daniel's sons, and one daughter, graduated from Baylor (one of them also a Missionary who died in China), and grandsons Bill and Price, among others, looks like a two hour drive down to Waco to the Baylor Library to check out your Charles Davis is in order. I'll write you more directly. Anne

Ruth: No, I don't know where the "Mayfield" in George Mayfield Daniel's name came from, and I sure wish I did! This particular family, sons, grandsons, etc., of my very elusive Thomas Daniel, b. 1786, GA, seemed to use a lot of spousal and grand spousal maiden surnames. I have searched all the Mayfields I could find back to Abraham and Abraham, Jr, but without knowing the maiden name of old 1786 Thomas' mother, I can't make a connection, although my gut feeling tells me there probably is. If this is the Thomas Daniel, Clarke Co., resident, who drew land in the 1807 Land Lottery as an "Orph" of a "Berry" Daniel (and I think he is), there should be a Berry/Daniel connection about two generations back, but so far, can't find that either. Two other names I am looking for are "Marion" and "Price", but those could be somewhere in the Wheeler (from GA.)or Lowery/Lowry (from VA) lines here in TX. If you any "Mayfield" clues, I sure would like to explore them. Anne

Hi Kevin, I cannot connect to the Payne Daniel & John Clarke gang but read, with great interest, everyone's postings.... My Daniel clan came to NC (Davie, Rowan, Alexander, Iredell counties) but story says they came from the ROAN River in VA.. Any idea where that was & have you ever heard of Yerby Daniel b1784 in Davie Co. Evelyn

Brenda: Which DANIELs in Newton Co?? Anne aobtx@juno.com

Dear John: (Sigh.....) Although not in my DANIEL line (but in my FAULKNER line), allow me to introduce you to some of my ancestors who arrived, by my perception, early on in GA. Nancy Ann WELDON, b. 1752, SC, daughter of Jacob below, met and married there another early immigrant, Michael GRIFFIN, Sr., b. 1758, SC, who also received a Land Grant in 1774, both died in Columbia Co. (old St. Paul) by 1808. Old Jacob WELDON was an Indian trader as well as a "planter", and was already living on part of the land granted to him in 1773 and 1775. Now, a couple of her younger brothers, and friends WHITFIELD and WILLIAMS, got passports in 1801 for passage to the Tombigbee, and apparently scoped out the area out "west". When Isaac, one of old Jacob's son, drew land in the 1807 Land Lottery, he trucked on out "west" and sold the land the next year to the City Commissioners of a fledgling town named Monticello in old Randolph Co., now Jasper, for $903 plus, whereupon now still stands the Civic Center and who knows what else. He bought and sold other land around there, leaving a sizable estate. At least one of my other collateral ancestor lines hung out around Wrightsborough waiting for the additional Quaker Land Grant of 15,000 acres finally granted in February 1769, and mine, at least, stayed in GA.when the rest of that group (many of whom lost their shirts, and lives, in that fiasco) pulled up stakes and moved en mass to the Ohio Territory. I realize the term "early" can be subjective, but in this case of my lines and collaterals, I did mean the time frame before the post-Rev. War period. >>>In the "Colonial Records of the State of Georgia", Vol XIX, published in 1907 is recorded: Georgia. At a Council held in the Council Chamber at Savannah on Tuesday 7th Jany 1772: Present The Honorable James Habersham Esq. President. Read a Petition of Jacob Weldon setting forth that he had been some time in the province, had a Wife and Eight Children but never had any Land and being desirous of Obtaining Land for Cultivation Therefore praying for three hundred Acres of Lond on Cagg (Keg) Creek St. Paul's parish to include the place whereon he had made some improvements. Resolved Than on Condition & the prayer of the said Petition is granted. >>>Book "Georgia Land Owners' Memorials 1758-1776" Abstracted by Eve B. Weeks and Robert S. Lowery Mary Bondurant Warren, Editor >>>Page 206 "46 Jacob Weldon, 500 Acres, St. Paul's Parish, 2/100. Bounded by vacant land. Granted 1-19-1773. Signed 5-10-1773 by Jas. McFarland for Jacob Weldon." >>>Page 271 "212 Jacob Weldon, 300 Acres, St. Paul's Parish, 2/100. Bounded by vacant land. Granted 3-7-1775. Signed 11-14-1775 by Jas. McFarland for Jacob Weldon." Anne

P, Yes, Cunningham DANIEL (1769-1839) of Greene County, Ga married Jane EWING, d/o Samuel EWING and Mary DANIEL of PE County, VA. Mary was the d/o James DANIEL and Jean KELSO, also of PE, so we are right back to where we started, aren't we? We also know what DANIEL family were shakers and movers in PE, don't we? I think all of the connections we see in this overall bunch, including the fact that Samuel CUNNINGAM, Cunningham's grandfather, married Jean KELSO after her husband, James DANIEL, died is pretty evident how close this bunch was and how tight they kept the marriages within this family I am going to take a little closer look at this whole family to see what else I can dig up on them because I know there was once a "Cunningham Corners" in Emanuel County, GA and it was located along its northern border with Jefferson County, just a few miles from present day, Wadley, then Bethany, Jefferson County, GA. As you will also note, the name Bethany was a prominent name in the Cunningham trilogy. The reason I have not looked at this CUNNINGHAM-DANIEL bunch in the past for connections to my Robert C. DANIEL of Burke County, GA was because I was "locked out" rather early in my research by members of this Cunningham-Daniel family. Now, with the possibility there were connections to this family not only in Greene but Morgan, I am going to take a much closer look at this family and see what turns up because Karen COTTER's research is stumbling into some very key Morgan County, GA families I closely monitor. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > Just a further word, Karen Cotter is not a list member. She has taken steps > to correct any incorrect information that she may have taken from various > sources. I will post my changes to her work when I get time to look at them. > Such things as Jane Coffee was not a Coffee but a Ewing. > Apparently both Herndon and Heinemann assigned the > wife of Cunningham Daniel as Jane Coffee IN ERROR. > Other researchers have found that Cunningham Daniel > married JANE EWING not Jane Coffee. > > If your are interested in Karen's work contact her at cotterkaren@yahoo.com > and she can discuss her research with you directly and not in a venue where > she unaware that she is being scrutinized. > > John, please put me on the mailing list for your book on any subject. <grin> > Payne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > > > > Payne, > > As for your being ticked, I do not know why you should feel that > way. > > I said nothing about you or your website other than I could not find > > anything listed on your website about the Kelso-Daniel bunch. If I am in > > error about this, then I apologize. If it is there, I would like to know > > where you have them assigned? If it is not there, why not? > > I do not monitor your website as much as I probably should but I do go > > there from time to time to see where you have a certain family assigned. > > What I have noticed, of recent, is that it is much more difficult to find > > things than it used to be. > > As for Karen's Cub Creek information, I have a vested interest in the > > assignment of the children of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY, since their > > daughter, Nancy Ann DANIEL (ABT 1765-1828) married Eden COLEMAN and their > > descendants tie right into my RICHTER family in Madison, GA at the Grand > > Uncle level. I am going to study Karen's Cub Creek information in-depth > and > > until then, I will reserve any further comment on it. > > I want you and Karen to remember one thing. When anyone posts > > genealogical information to a public website it becomes open to > commentary, > > one way or the other. Also, it would seem we all can all agree to have > > differences of opinion as long as our comments are of the non-personal > > nature, as mine always will be. If someone's genealogical research will > > not stand up to an in-depth scrutiny, it will not stand for long on its > own. > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > > > > > > > John, your tact is remarkable, are Karen and I third persons on the > fringe > > > of your present excursion into the various families that we may work > on, > > > such as the Cunningham's. I have no problem with taking shots head on so > > > long as it is constructive. Can't you merely ask me why I don't have the > > > Kelso-Daniel information posted? Karen can speak for herself, she may > not > > be > > > as fragile as I am. <grin> > > > > > > Ticked in Tampa, Payne > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:45 AM > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning, > > > > Since we have been bouncing back and forth between various DANIEL > > > > bunches from Virginia and Eastern NC, I thought I would throw this > out > > on > > > > the table for discussion... > > > > Last evening I spent a considerable amount of time going through > > List > > > > Member, Karen COTTER's, description of the CUNNINHAMS of Cub Creek, > PA. > > > > Some of her information was very familiar, some of it corrected some > > > > information I already had on this family and some of it really > confused > > > me. > > > > I cannot tell you -- this information was Greek to me or that some > > of > > > it > > > > did not tie into my overall bunch, it did. However, some of it seemed > > to > > > > tie to families that made no sense to me, whatsoever. > > > > Take for instance the Peter COFFEE family. We know some of the > > > children > > > > of Peter COFFEE married into the family of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah > > BURNEY. > > > > We also know where the BURNEYS were from (Craven County, NC) and what > > > DANIEL > > > > family they seem to connect to -- the T&E bunch. > > > > So, what was Karen doing with Peter COFFEE amongst her Cub Creek, > PA > > > > CUNNINGHAM bunch. This made no sense to me. However, the profile of > > her > > > > CUNNINGHAM bunch matches, perfectly, with the children of Charles > DANIEL > > > > (1773-1803) and Elizabeth COFFEE. This begs the questions -- if she > > > married > > > > Charles DANIEL, was he really a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY? > > > > I have no compunctions about making Charles's father, Thomas > > DANIEL, > > > a > > > > Virginia DANIEL but Thomas is not even a name in that bunch nor was he > > > even > > > > mentioned in her material. She had all of the DANIEL boys who married > > > into > > > > her CUNNINGHAM bunch in Greene County, GA, as well as their parents, > > James > > > > DANIEL and Jean KELSO, but little, if anything, about this COFFEE > > > > connection. As most know, they say that James DANIEL was a son of > John > > > > DANIEL III and Ann BATES of York County, VA but I get the feeling > this > > is > > > > all wrong. I also checked to see if Payne had anything new on this > > > > Kelso-Daniel bunch and his information was so new, he did not even > have > > > them > > > > listed anywhere on his website, that I could find. <grin> I think he > > > used > > > > to have them linked to the Middlesex DANIEL bunch, the last time I > > > checked. > > > > I also noted her link to the COLBERTS, a name close to my bunch. > > She > > > > even has ties between her bunch and the WINGFIELDS and I know where > that > > > > bunch was from - New Kent County, VA. However, the BURNEYS and the > > > > WINGFIELDS were also close. She even has the CARLTONS in this bunch > but > > > the > > > > Morgan County, GA CARLTON family was from Duplin County, NC but before > > > that, > > > > they were from PA -- Chester County, PA. > > > > I just do not know about her material as to whether this > information > > > is > > > > accurate or she is confusing persons of the same name with those of an > > > > identical name but were from somewhere else. We know where the Simon > > > > BURNEYS were from -- Carven County, NC. However, the COFFEES would > have > > > > probably run across the CUNNINGAMS since they both lived in PE County, > > VA > > > at > > > > one point. > > > > The one thing I know about this total bunch, it smells of "Irish > > > green" > > > > all over the place, including the COFFEES. I just do not know about > > > some > > > > of her information nor some of the conflicts I see in some of it. > > > > The one thing I feel is -- if these DANIEL boys married that > heavily > > > > into her CUNNINGHAM family in Greene County, GA then you can bet their > > > > parents, James DANIEL and Jean KELSO, probably followed them all the > way > > > > from Ireland or James had parents who were from the same area in > > Ireland. > > > > In fact, her Samuel CUNNINGHAM married Jean KELSO after his wife died > > and > > > > her husband died. That, to me, is a very close family. > > > > The one thing that really caught my eye was the James CUNNINGHAM > who > > > > Karen says was an early merchant in Madison, Morgan County, GA, a > > > profession > > > > my RICHTER bunch was also in during a slightly later time frame, also > in > > > > Madison. I also know this Jimmy CUNNINGHAM was also listed with > Henry > > > > CARLTON in a horse racing endeavor in Madison in 1809 and the CARLTONS > > > were > > > > also listed as being with her Cub Creek CUNNINGHAM bunch. > > > > Henry CARLTON's daughter, Lucy, also married a James Harris > PONDER, > > > Sr. > > > > (1786-1864) and he was the GGF of Lucille PONDER (1895-1973) who > married > > > my > > > > father, as his first wife. Henry's brother, John K. CARLTON married > an > > > > ALDERMAN and they moved to Thomasville, Thomas County, GA. Their > grand > > > > daughter, Edna Sophronia CHASTAIN, married Russell R. RENEAU > (1832-1862) > > > in > > > > 1855 in Thomasville and his sister, Mary Jane RENEAU, my GGM, married > my > > > > GGF, Robert W. DANIEL in 1852 in Jefferson County, GA and their > > daughter, > > > > Alice E. DANIEL (1854-1924) married my grandfather, John C. RICHTER, > Sr. > > > in > > > > 1872 in Madison, GA. A Round-Robin, I do not know.... > > > > What I do know is there is not a Robert or Thomas DANIEL anywhere > in > > > > sight in this Cunningham-Daniel bunch of Greene County, GA, although > > they > > > > match most of these DANIELS, financially, to a tee. I also do not > know > > > > whether this may be a DANIEL cross-line or not. > > > > What I do know is -- a lot of collateral links she carries do not > > make > > > > sense to me -or- they make what I have, not make sense. I do not know > > > which > > > > is correct. You can bet I will take a much closer look at her > > > information. > > > > If anyone wants a copy of her information drop me a private note and I > > > will > > > > send you a MS Word Document which contains her Cunningham information. > > > > Make sure you have MS Word on your computer because you can not view > it, > > > > otherwise........... > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a > suggestion > > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > > the subject of a reply message. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of > messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or > those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not > allowed on this list. > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > >

Just a further word, Karen Cotter is not a list member. She has taken steps to correct any incorrect information that she may have taken from various sources. I will post my changes to her work when I get time to look at them. Such things as Jane Coffee was not a Coffee but a Ewing. Apparently both Herndon and Heinemann assigned the wife of Cunningham Daniel as Jane Coffee IN ERROR. Other researchers have found that Cunningham Daniel married JANE EWING not Jane Coffee. If your are interested in Karen's work contact her at cotterkaren@yahoo.com and she can discuss her research with you directly and not in a venue where she unaware that she is being scrutinized. John, please put me on the mailing list for your book on any subject. <grin> Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > Payne, > As for your being ticked, I do not know why you should feel that way. > I said nothing about you or your website other than I could not find > anything listed on your website about the Kelso-Daniel bunch. If I am in > error about this, then I apologize. If it is there, I would like to know > where you have them assigned? If it is not there, why not? > I do not monitor your website as much as I probably should but I do go > there from time to time to see where you have a certain family assigned. > What I have noticed, of recent, is that it is much more difficult to find > things than it used to be. > As for Karen's Cub Creek information, I have a vested interest in the > assignment of the children of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY, since their > daughter, Nancy Ann DANIEL (ABT 1765-1828) married Eden COLEMAN and their > descendants tie right into my RICHTER family in Madison, GA at the Grand > Uncle level. I am going to study Karen's Cub Creek information in-depth and > until then, I will reserve any further comment on it. > I want you and Karen to remember one thing. When anyone posts > genealogical information to a public website it becomes open to commentary, > one way or the other. Also, it would seem we all can all agree to have > differences of opinion as long as our comments are of the non-personal > nature, as mine always will be. If someone's genealogical research will > not stand up to an in-depth scrutiny, it will not stand for long on its own. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > > > > John, your tact is remarkable, are Karen and I third persons on the fringe > > of your present excursion into the various families that we may work on, > > such as the Cunningham's. I have no problem with taking shots head on so > > long as it is constructive. Can't you merely ask me why I don't have the > > Kelso-Daniel information posted? Karen can speak for herself, she may not > be > > as fragile as I am. <grin> > > > > Ticked in Tampa, Payne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:45 AM > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > > > > > > > Good Morning, > > > Since we have been bouncing back and forth between various DANIEL > > > bunches from Virginia and Eastern NC, I thought I would throw this out > on > > > the table for discussion... > > > Last evening I spent a considerable amount of time going through > List > > > Member, Karen COTTER's, description of the CUNNINHAMS of Cub Creek, PA. > > > Some of her information was very familiar, some of it corrected some > > > information I already had on this family and some of it really confused > > me. > > > I cannot tell you -- this information was Greek to me or that some > of > > it > > > did not tie into my overall bunch, it did. However, some of it seemed > to > > > tie to families that made no sense to me, whatsoever. > > > Take for instance the Peter COFFEE family. We know some of the > > children > > > of Peter COFFEE married into the family of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah > BURNEY. > > > We also know where the BURNEYS were from (Craven County, NC) and what > > DANIEL > > > family they seem to connect to -- the T&E bunch. > > > So, what was Karen doing with Peter COFFEE amongst her Cub Creek, PA > > > CUNNINGHAM bunch. This made no sense to me. However, the profile of > her > > > CUNNINGHAM bunch matches, perfectly, with the children of Charles DANIEL > > > (1773-1803) and Elizabeth COFFEE. This begs the questions -- if she > > married > > > Charles DANIEL, was he really a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY? > > > I have no compunctions about making Charles's father, Thomas > DANIEL, > > a > > > Virginia DANIEL but Thomas is not even a name in that bunch nor was he > > even > > > mentioned in her material. She had all of the DANIEL boys who married > > into > > > her CUNNINGHAM bunch in Greene County, GA, as well as their parents, > James > > > DANIEL and Jean KELSO, but little, if anything, about this COFFEE > > > connection. As most know, they say that James DANIEL was a son of John > > > DANIEL III and Ann BATES of York County, VA but I get the feeling this > is > > > all wrong. I also checked to see if Payne had anything new on this > > > Kelso-Daniel bunch and his information was so new, he did not even have > > them > > > listed anywhere on his website, that I could find. <grin> I think he > > used > > > to have them linked to the Middlesex DANIEL bunch, the last time I > > checked. > > > I also noted her link to the COLBERTS, a name close to my bunch. > She > > > even has ties between her bunch and the WINGFIELDS and I know where that > > > bunch was from - New Kent County, VA. However, the BURNEYS and the > > > WINGFIELDS were also close. She even has the CARLTONS in this bunch but > > the > > > Morgan County, GA CARLTON family was from Duplin County, NC but before > > that, > > > they were from PA -- Chester County, PA. > > > I just do not know about her material as to whether this information > > is > > > accurate or she is confusing persons of the same name with those of an > > > identical name but were from somewhere else. We know where the Simon > > > BURNEYS were from -- Carven County, NC. However, the COFFEES would have > > > probably run across the CUNNINGAMS since they both lived in PE County, > VA > > at > > > one point. > > > The one thing I know about this total bunch, it smells of "Irish > > green" > > > all over the place, including the COFFEES. I just do not know about > > some > > > of her information nor some of the conflicts I see in some of it. > > > The one thing I feel is -- if these DANIEL boys married that heavily > > > into her CUNNINGHAM family in Greene County, GA then you can bet their > > > parents, James DANIEL and Jean KELSO, probably followed them all the way > > > from Ireland or James had parents who were from the same area in > Ireland. > > > In fact, her Samuel CUNNINGHAM married Jean KELSO after his wife died > and > > > her husband died. That, to me, is a very close family. > > > The one thing that really caught my eye was the James CUNNINGHAM who > > > Karen says was an early merchant in Madison, Morgan County, GA, a > > profession > > > my RICHTER bunch was also in during a slightly later time frame, also in > > > Madison. I also know this Jimmy CUNNINGHAM was also listed with Henry > > > CARLTON in a horse racing endeavor in Madison in 1809 and the CARLTONS > > were > > > also listed as being with her Cub Creek CUNNINGHAM bunch. > > > Henry CARLTON's daughter, Lucy, also married a James Harris PONDER, > > Sr. > > > (1786-1864) and he was the GGF of Lucille PONDER (1895-1973) who married > > my > > > father, as his first wife. Henry's brother, John K. CARLTON married an > > > ALDERMAN and they moved to Thomasville, Thomas County, GA. Their grand > > > daughter, Edna Sophronia CHASTAIN, married Russell R. RENEAU (1832-1862) > > in > > > 1855 in Thomasville and his sister, Mary Jane RENEAU, my GGM, married my > > > GGF, Robert W. DANIEL in 1852 in Jefferson County, GA and their > daughter, > > > Alice E. DANIEL (1854-1924) married my grandfather, John C. RICHTER, Sr. > > in > > > 1872 in Madison, GA. A Round-Robin, I do not know.... > > > What I do know is there is not a Robert or Thomas DANIEL anywhere in > > > sight in this Cunningham-Daniel bunch of Greene County, GA, although > they > > > match most of these DANIELS, financially, to a tee. I also do not know > > > whether this may be a DANIEL cross-line or not. > > > What I do know is -- a lot of collateral links she carries do not > make > > > sense to me -or- they make what I have, not make sense. I do not know > > which > > > is correct. You can bet I will take a much closer look at her > > information. > > > If anyone wants a copy of her information drop me a private note and I > > will > > > send you a MS Word Document which contains her Cunningham information. > > > Make sure you have MS Word on your computer because you can not view it, > > > otherwise........... > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > the subject of a reply message. > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not allowed on this list. > >

Hi, This may or may not be any help but the William DANIEL Sr. (1760-1832) and Pricilla ANDREWS Family of Pitt County, NC had a Delilah DANIEL. William's father was also named Robert DANIEL. David DANIEL (1783-1857), their son, moved to Stewart County, TN. There was a Martin DANIEL born ABt 1770, probably in Granville County, NC, the son of Col. John Williams DANIEL. Col. DANIEL died in Warren County, NC. BARTON is not a name I have a lot of information on but I do show it tied to a McCOY family of Scotland, later Wilkes County, GA. I do not show any TN or NC connections to this BARTON family but maybe someone else has some more pertinent information. Sorry, I cannot help you more. I will tell you that lots of NC folks moved through SC to GA and then on to TN and KY as they opened up for settlement. Some also moved to central TN straight from western areas of VA and then headed up north to KY and OH, as they opened up. However, I am sure you know the general migration path to OH, IN and IL was via of road that ran from Philadelphia to Pittsburg to Dayton and then points west west. However a lot of KY and TN folks were some of the earliest settlers of southern OH and I am sure the same also goes for IN and IL, which seems to match the migration path of your bunch to a tee. However, I am sure you are aware the western frontier of the US during the War of 1812 was just about along a north-south line running through Miami and Shelby County, OH. Any point to the west of that area would have been real "iffy" in the 1812 time frame, due to the Indian raids being conducted by the English and their Indian allies during this war. I am also sure you are also aware the war along the western frontier during the War of 1812 was mostly one of defeat for the Americans. Hull surrendered Detroit and we got banged around pretty hard in this area by the British and their Indian allies, with a few exceptions, Harrison, et. al.. I will tell you the people of western Ohio, located some 200 miles to the east of IL, lived in fear for most of this two-year war and I can only imagine what the conditions would have been like in IL in the 1812 time frame. This is why most migration to IL would occur later, starting AFT 1820 with the heyday being in the 1830's and 1840's. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Clark" <diane.clark@cox.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:30 PM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Daniel Family of Illinois > Does anyone have any information on the Daniel family that settled in Bond/Fayette counties of Illinois prior to 1818? They came to Illinois via Tennessee (abt 1812) from North Carolina. William Daniel ( 3rd Great-Grandfather) was born about 1783 in North Carolina and married Sarah Matheny abt 1817 in Montgomery Co., TN. He had 4 dau and 5 sons, William Jr., Ewing, Barton, Henry James (my 2nd Great-Grandfather) and Robert. Living near him in the 1820 census are Robert, Martin, Barton, Jeremiah, and Delila. I think that Robert, Martin, and Barton maybe his brothers. Jeremiah and Delila are older. Jeremiah the elder does not show up after 1820 in the census. Does any one know where in North Carolina this family originated from or who Delila was married to? Martin states in one of the census that he was born in North Carolina on the state line. Any help would be appreciated. > Thank you, > Diane Clark > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. > >

John, Karen suggest that we, you and I, take this stuff too seriously. Perhaps we do? Anyway, we are looking at the Coffee stuff as it seems that it IS in error thanks to early researchers. Remember Karen is just a compiler and doesn't mind being corrected in an appropriate manner. Not off hand in the third person. In regard to my hard to read web page, do you have a template that can be adapted to my work. I am a lowly amateur just trying to compile the facts, and probabilities when nothing else is available. Sort of like collecting collaterals. Hang in there, Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > Payne, > As for your being ticked, I do not know why you should feel that way. > I said nothing about you or your website other than I could not find > anything listed on your website about the Kelso-Daniel bunch. If I am in > error about this, then I apologize. If it is there, I would like to know > where you have them assigned? If it is not there, why not? > I do not monitor your website as much as I probably should but I do go > there from time to time to see where you have a certain family assigned. > What I have noticed, of recent, is that it is much more difficult to find > things than it used to be. > As for Karen's Cub Creek information, I have a vested interest in the > assignment of the children of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY, since their > daughter, Nancy Ann DANIEL (ABT 1765-1828) married Eden COLEMAN and their > descendants tie right into my RICHTER family in Madison, GA at the Grand > Uncle level. I am going to study Karen's Cub Creek information in-depth and > until then, I will reserve any further comment on it. > I want you and Karen to remember one thing. When anyone posts > genealogical information to a public website it becomes open to commentary, > one way or the other. Also, it would seem we all can all agree to have > differences of opinion as long as our comments are of the non-personal > nature, as mine always will be. If someone's genealogical research will > not stand up to an in-depth scrutiny, it will not stand for long on its own. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > > > > John, your tact is remarkable, are Karen and I third persons on the fringe > > of your present excursion into the various families that we may work on, > > such as the Cunningham's. I have no problem with taking shots head on so > > long as it is constructive. Can't you merely ask me why I don't have the > > Kelso-Daniel information posted? Karen can speak for herself, she may not > be > > as fragile as I am. <grin> > > > > Ticked in Tampa, Payne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:45 AM > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > > > > > > > Good Morning, > > > Since we have been bouncing back and forth between various DANIEL > > > bunches from Virginia and Eastern NC, I thought I would throw this out > on > > > the table for discussion... > > > Last evening I spent a considerable amount of time going through > List > > > Member, Karen COTTER's, description of the CUNNINHAMS of Cub Creek, PA. > > > Some of her information was very familiar, some of it corrected some > > > information I already had on this family and some of it really confused > > me. > > > I cannot tell you -- this information was Greek to me or that some > of > > it > > > did not tie into my overall bunch, it did. However, some of it seemed > to > > > tie to families that made no sense to me, whatsoever. > > > Take for instance the Peter COFFEE family. We know some of the > > children > > > of Peter COFFEE married into the family of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah > BURNEY. > > > We also know where the BURNEYS were from (Craven County, NC) and what > > DANIEL > > > family they seem to connect to -- the T&E bunch. > > > So, what was Karen doing with Peter COFFEE amongst her Cub Creek, PA > > > CUNNINGHAM bunch. This made no sense to me. However, the profile of > her > > > CUNNINGHAM bunch matches, perfectly, with the children of Charles DANIEL > > > (1773-1803) and Elizabeth COFFEE. This begs the questions -- if she > > married > > > Charles DANIEL, was he really a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY? > > > I have no compunctions about making Charles's father, Thomas > DANIEL, > > a > > > Virginia DANIEL but Thomas is not even a name in that bunch nor was he > > even > > > mentioned in her material. She had all of the DANIEL boys who married > > into > > > her CUNNINGHAM bunch in Greene County, GA, as well as their parents, > James > > > DANIEL and Jean KELSO, but little, if anything, about this COFFEE > > > connection. As most know, they say that James DANIEL was a son of John > > > DANIEL III and Ann BATES of York County, VA but I get the feeling this > is > > > all wrong. I also checked to see if Payne had anything new on this > > > Kelso-Daniel bunch and his information was so new, he did not even have > > them > > > listed anywhere on his website, that I could find. <grin> I think he > > used > > > to have them linked to the Middlesex DANIEL bunch, the last time I > > checked. > > > I also noted her link to the COLBERTS, a name close to my bunch. > She > > > even has ties between her bunch and the WINGFIELDS and I know where that > > > bunch was from - New Kent County, VA. However, the BURNEYS and the > > > WINGFIELDS were also close. She even has the CARLTONS in this bunch but > > the > > > Morgan County, GA CARLTON family was from Duplin County, NC but before > > that, > > > they were from PA -- Chester County, PA. > > > I just do not know about her material as to whether this information > > is > > > accurate or she is confusing persons of the same name with those of an > > > identical name but were from somewhere else. We know where the Simon > > > BURNEYS were from -- Carven County, NC. However, the COFFEES would have > > > probably run across the CUNNINGAMS since they both lived in PE County, > VA > > at > > > one point. > > > The one thing I know about this total bunch, it smells of "Irish > > green" > > > all over the place, including the COFFEES. I just do not know about > > some > > > of her information nor some of the conflicts I see in some of it. > > > The one thing I feel is -- if these DANIEL boys married that heavily > > > into her CUNNINGHAM family in Greene County, GA then you can bet their > > > parents, James DANIEL and Jean KELSO, probably followed them all the way > > > from Ireland or James had parents who were from the same area in > Ireland. > > > In fact, her Samuel CUNNINGHAM married Jean KELSO after his wife died > and > > > her husband died. That, to me, is a very close family. > > > The one thing that really caught my eye was the James CUNNINGHAM who > > > Karen says was an early merchant in Madison, Morgan County, GA, a > > profession > > > my RICHTER bunch was also in during a slightly later time frame, also in > > > Madison. I also know this Jimmy CUNNINGHAM was also listed with Henry > > > CARLTON in a horse racing endeavor in Madison in 1809 and the CARLTONS > > were > > > also listed as being with her Cub Creek CUNNINGHAM bunch. > > > Henry CARLTON's daughter, Lucy, also married a James Harris PONDER, > > Sr. > > > (1786-1864) and he was the GGF of Lucille PONDER (1895-1973) who married > > my > > > father, as his first wife. Henry's brother, John K. CARLTON married an > > > ALDERMAN and they moved to Thomasville, Thomas County, GA. Their grand > > > daughter, Edna Sophronia CHASTAIN, married Russell R. RENEAU (1832-1862) > > in > > > 1855 in Thomasville and his sister, Mary Jane RENEAU, my GGM, married my > > > GGF, Robert W. DANIEL in 1852 in Jefferson County, GA and their > daughter, > > > Alice E. DANIEL (1854-1924) married my grandfather, John C. RICHTER, Sr. > > in > > > 1872 in Madison, GA. A Round-Robin, I do not know.... > > > What I do know is there is not a Robert or Thomas DANIEL anywhere in > > > sight in this Cunningham-Daniel bunch of Greene County, GA, although > they > > > match most of these DANIELS, financially, to a tee. I also do not know > > > whether this may be a DANIEL cross-line or not. > > > What I do know is -- a lot of collateral links she carries do not > make > > > sense to me -or- they make what I have, not make sense. I do not know > > which > > > is correct. You can bet I will take a much closer look at her > > information. > > > If anyone wants a copy of her information drop me a private note and I > > will > > > send you a MS Word Document which contains her Cunningham information. > > > Make sure you have MS Word on your computer because you can not view it, > > > otherwise........... > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > the subject of a reply message. > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not allowed on this list. > >

HELLO, ALL COUSIN'S,i.m aunt cricket's grandaughter(kathy emerson,thompson)she and aunt muncie are doing fine, in muskogee and wagoner. i am still looking for pictures of all rufus and lettie's children,aunt stell(estell) i do have some group shots with her in them but you can't really see her. also rufus jr. i have a picture of his son fred but not of rufus jr. i have at least one of each of the other 11 children, and would love to find more. i found bonnie daniel(cleo's grandaughter and she sent some good shots of him and his family)kathy fitzpartick,sanders(aunt em's daughter sent me copys of aunt helen's picture book, shange if your still on line, when you had your site my printer was down!! i would love to get copys of those daniel pic. you had. i am more than willing to share the 500+ pages of info. on our daniel's, i have aunt em's paperwork from 1954 and steve looper's (aunt cricket's oldest grandson) work from the 1980's and 1990's,i started in 2000. it has taken me these 3years to find the pictures and info. i have found. i know a lot of you are on line, lets share, there's so many of us, there must be stuff you have that i haven't found,and the same with me,things i have you might like to see.-- rufus a. and lettie ann elizabeth zachary,daniel's children were: hellen,ora, cleo, rufus jr., jimmie,ida,stell,emma,cricket, muncie,jeb,annie,or raymond daniel from wagoner co.,okay,ok. grandchildren or ggrandchildren,you know who you are- if your out there e-mail me,ok.(eaglekkt@aol.com) kathy-tulsa,ok.

Does anyone have any information on the Daniel family that settled in Bond/Fayette counties of Illinois prior to 1818? They came to Illinois via Tennessee (abt 1812) from North Carolina. William Daniel ( 3rd Great-Grandfather) was born about 1783 in North Carolina and married Sarah Matheny abt 1817 in Montgomery Co., TN. He had 4 dau and 5 sons, William Jr., Ewing, Barton, Henry James (my 2nd Great-Grandfather) and Robert. Living near him in the 1820 census are Robert, Martin, Barton, Jeremiah, and Delila. I think that Robert, Martin, and Barton maybe his brothers. Jeremiah and Delila are older. Jeremiah the elder does not show up after 1820 in the census. Does any one know where in North Carolina this family originated from or who Delila was married to? Martin states in one of the census that he was born in North Carolina on the state line. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Diane Clark

I found Motty Daniels at rootsweb. Thank you so much. Is Nancy a sister or cousin of yours? I was surprised when I found her death date at the Jasper Co. site. I wonder what she died of.....so young.? And how she got to Omaha. Richard Lee Critser, her 1st husband, died young in a motorcycle accident. My grandfather raised Richard, his grandson, as his son. Nancy Ann Daniels and Richard Critser had 7 children; I have their birthdates if you want them. Thanks again, Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin W. Q. Daniel" <kwdaniel1@mindspring.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Daniels in Jasper Co.IN > These are my Daniels. She was a daughter of Motty Alonzo Daniels and > Anna Belle Nelson. If you go to Rootsweb, to the WorldConnect project > and search for Motty Daniels, you will find them. I put my entries in > all caps, so it is easy to spot. I can go back several generations to > Thomas Daniel 1750-1825, who was probably a great grandson of James > Daniel of Essex County, VA. There are two blank generations because so > many records are lost in Caroline County, VA. We hope to prove the > relationship as we have found a proved descendant of James Daniel who > will participate in our DNA project. > > Kevin > > Judy Garner wrote: > > >Kevin, I joined this Daniel-L list for my hubby's family, the Daniels that > >came from Pitt Co.NC, to Screven Co.Ga and then to the Territory of Florida. > >But today, looking at your Daniels site.... I was surprised.....I was born > >in Rensselaer, Jasper Co.IN and I have a Daniels connection there in my > >family. Hope you can help me. > >My cousin, Richard Lee Critser,b:6Apr1939,Rensselaer,IN, d:11 Sep1970. He > >married:2 Feb 1957, Nancy Ann Daniels, b:11 Sept 1936-7,Rensselaer,IN and > >d:23Feb2003,Omaha, Nebraska. I'm looking for the parents of Nancy Ann > >Daniels. She M2: Jack Foltz. Surely she ties into some of your Jasper > >County, Indiana Daniels??? > >Appreciate any help you might give me on Nancy Daniels. > >Thank you, Judy > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Kevin W. Q. Daniel" <kwdaniel1@mindspring.com> > >To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:35 PM > >Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - Waco, TX > > > > > > > > > >>I had Daniels in Liberty, Tyler, Hardin, Hays, Shelby, and Jefferson > >>Counties, Texas before 1880. They were in Jefferson in the late 1840s. I > >>also had another bunch move down to Grayson County, TX in the early > >>1900s, though they had changed their name to Dannel by then. > >> > >>My genealogy can be accessed from my web site, www.kevindaniel.com. > >> > >>Kevin > >> > >>Ruth Newlan wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>OK - there you go! I knew someone out here had mentioned their Daniel's > >>>being from Waco or Liberty Co., TX. One of my Daniel's line goes to Waco > >>> > >>> > >in > > > > > >>>late 1880's & was a well known Baptist Minister in the area & was > >>> > >>> > >missionary > > > > > >>>to Cuba and Brazil - but Waco was his home. He was Charles Davis Daniel > >>> > >>> > >who > > > > > >>>married Lena Kirk. > >>> > >>>I have several aunt's and uncle's that would be highly upset (fighting > >>> > >>> > >mad > > > > > >>>would be more like it) to be told that they weren't kid to Price Daniel, > >>>anyway - don't know about Bill. Oh, brother! They just won't hear any > >>> > >>> > >part > > > > > >>>of it not being so. They are very old - so, I don't get them upset by > >>>talking about facts. I've looked for the connection - but, if there was > >>>one - it's back further than Price or his father. > >>> > >>>- Ruth in Portland, OR > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> > >>>To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 2:43 PM > >>>Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - DANIEL-D Digest V03 > >>> > >>> > >#475 > > > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Gloria, if I remember correctly, you family story also says that your > >>>>ancestor is from the Liberty County group - and that he is buried in > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Liberty > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>County. > >>>> > >>>>I do not see any way that both stories can be true. > >>>> > >>>>Jack Butler > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: <Taosbg@aol.com> > >>>>To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>>Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 5:22 PM > >>>>Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - DANIEL-D Digest V03 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>#475 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Anne, > >>>>>I was interested in seeing you mention the French Huguenots as > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>collaterals > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>of > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>the Daniel line. > >>>>>My Daniel cousin took the DNA and he matched Lucy's line and was a > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>mutation > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>off a couple of others. He will not be moved from the story his > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>grandfather > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>told him of their grandpa Joseph's (Josephus) father being French and > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>fighting at > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>the seige of Savannah. He deserterd and stayed in this country. > >>>>>My cousin feels the story goes back far enough it must be true. > >>>>>Gloria > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > >>>>>IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>at: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > >>>>IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>at: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > >>>Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Payne, As for your being ticked, I do not know why you should feel that way. I said nothing about you or your website other than I could not find anything listed on your website about the Kelso-Daniel bunch. If I am in error about this, then I apologize. If it is there, I would like to know where you have them assigned? If it is not there, why not? I do not monitor your website as much as I probably should but I do go there from time to time to see where you have a certain family assigned. What I have noticed, of recent, is that it is much more difficult to find things than it used to be. As for Karen's Cub Creek information, I have a vested interest in the assignment of the children of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY, since their daughter, Nancy Ann DANIEL (ABT 1765-1828) married Eden COLEMAN and their descendants tie right into my RICHTER family in Madison, GA at the Grand Uncle level. I am going to study Karen's Cub Creek information in-depth and until then, I will reserve any further comment on it. I want you and Karen to remember one thing. When anyone posts genealogical information to a public website it becomes open to commentary, one way or the other. Also, it would seem we all can all agree to have differences of opinion as long as our comments are of the non-personal nature, as mine always will be. If someone's genealogical research will not stand up to an in-depth scrutiny, it will not stand for long on its own. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > John, your tact is remarkable, are Karen and I third persons on the fringe > of your present excursion into the various families that we may work on, > such as the Cunningham's. I have no problem with taking shots head on so > long as it is constructive. Can't you merely ask me why I don't have the > Kelso-Daniel information posted? Karen can speak for herself, she may not be > as fragile as I am. <grin> > > Ticked in Tampa, Payne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:45 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > > > > Good Morning, > > Since we have been bouncing back and forth between various DANIEL > > bunches from Virginia and Eastern NC, I thought I would throw this out on > > the table for discussion... > > Last evening I spent a considerable amount of time going through List > > Member, Karen COTTER's, description of the CUNNINHAMS of Cub Creek, PA. > > Some of her information was very familiar, some of it corrected some > > information I already had on this family and some of it really confused > me. > > I cannot tell you -- this information was Greek to me or that some of > it > > did not tie into my overall bunch, it did. However, some of it seemed to > > tie to families that made no sense to me, whatsoever. > > Take for instance the Peter COFFEE family. We know some of the > children > > of Peter COFFEE married into the family of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY. > > We also know where the BURNEYS were from (Craven County, NC) and what > DANIEL > > family they seem to connect to -- the T&E bunch. > > So, what was Karen doing with Peter COFFEE amongst her Cub Creek, PA > > CUNNINGHAM bunch. This made no sense to me. However, the profile of her > > CUNNINGHAM bunch matches, perfectly, with the children of Charles DANIEL > > (1773-1803) and Elizabeth COFFEE. This begs the questions -- if she > married > > Charles DANIEL, was he really a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY? > > I have no compunctions about making Charles's father, Thomas DANIEL, > a > > Virginia DANIEL but Thomas is not even a name in that bunch nor was he > even > > mentioned in her material. She had all of the DANIEL boys who married > into > > her CUNNINGHAM bunch in Greene County, GA, as well as their parents, James > > DANIEL and Jean KELSO, but little, if anything, about this COFFEE > > connection. As most know, they say that James DANIEL was a son of John > > DANIEL III and Ann BATES of York County, VA but I get the feeling this is > > all wrong. I also checked to see if Payne had anything new on this > > Kelso-Daniel bunch and his information was so new, he did not even have > them > > listed anywhere on his website, that I could find. <grin> I think he > used > > to have them linked to the Middlesex DANIEL bunch, the last time I > checked. > > I also noted her link to the COLBERTS, a name close to my bunch. She > > even has ties between her bunch and the WINGFIELDS and I know where that > > bunch was from - New Kent County, VA. However, the BURNEYS and the > > WINGFIELDS were also close. She even has the CARLTONS in this bunch but > the > > Morgan County, GA CARLTON family was from Duplin County, NC but before > that, > > they were from PA -- Chester County, PA. > > I just do not know about her material as to whether this information > is > > accurate or she is confusing persons of the same name with those of an > > identical name but were from somewhere else. We know where the Simon > > BURNEYS were from -- Carven County, NC. However, the COFFEES would have > > probably run across the CUNNINGAMS since they both lived in PE County, VA > at > > one point. > > The one thing I know about this total bunch, it smells of "Irish > green" > > all over the place, including the COFFEES. I just do not know about > some > > of her information nor some of the conflicts I see in some of it. > > The one thing I feel is -- if these DANIEL boys married that heavily > > into her CUNNINGHAM family in Greene County, GA then you can bet their > > parents, James DANIEL and Jean KELSO, probably followed them all the way > > from Ireland or James had parents who were from the same area in Ireland. > > In fact, her Samuel CUNNINGHAM married Jean KELSO after his wife died and > > her husband died. That, to me, is a very close family. > > The one thing that really caught my eye was the James CUNNINGHAM who > > Karen says was an early merchant in Madison, Morgan County, GA, a > profession > > my RICHTER bunch was also in during a slightly later time frame, also in > > Madison. I also know this Jimmy CUNNINGHAM was also listed with Henry > > CARLTON in a horse racing endeavor in Madison in 1809 and the CARLTONS > were > > also listed as being with her Cub Creek CUNNINGHAM bunch. > > Henry CARLTON's daughter, Lucy, also married a James Harris PONDER, > Sr. > > (1786-1864) and he was the GGF of Lucille PONDER (1895-1973) who married > my > > father, as his first wife. Henry's brother, John K. CARLTON married an > > ALDERMAN and they moved to Thomasville, Thomas County, GA. Their grand > > daughter, Edna Sophronia CHASTAIN, married Russell R. RENEAU (1832-1862) > in > > 1855 in Thomasville and his sister, Mary Jane RENEAU, my GGM, married my > > GGF, Robert W. DANIEL in 1852 in Jefferson County, GA and their daughter, > > Alice E. DANIEL (1854-1924) married my grandfather, John C. RICHTER, Sr. > in > > 1872 in Madison, GA. A Round-Robin, I do not know.... > > What I do know is there is not a Robert or Thomas DANIEL anywhere in > > sight in this Cunningham-Daniel bunch of Greene County, GA, although they > > match most of these DANIELS, financially, to a tee. I also do not know > > whether this may be a DANIEL cross-line or not. > > What I do know is -- a lot of collateral links she carries do not make > > sense to me -or- they make what I have, not make sense. I do not know > which > > is correct. You can bet I will take a much closer look at her > information. > > If anyone wants a copy of her information drop me a private note and I > will > > send you a MS Word Document which contains her Cunningham information. > > Make sure you have MS Word on your computer because you can not view it, > > otherwise........... > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. >

John, A Daniel son married a Williams daughter back in VA also. I wonder if she was a sister of the Martha Williams who married the Gainer. Somewhere William Daniel 1760/60 Emanuel CO, GA picked up the name Williams for his first (I think) son. You remember a Gainer son and William Daniel married sisters, Betsy and Jane Watts of Washington CO, GA. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: John R. Clarke To: DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] John Moore family Jack, JORDAN is a name all around this NC DANIEL family. I cannot tell you how many Jordan's are close to my bunch. Rev. Jordan SMITH lived next to the MARSHALLS in Jefferson County, GA. He was married to a Mary GAINER, d/o William GAINER RS-VA and Martha WILLIAMS of Petersburg, Surry County, VA, later Davisboro, Washington County, Georgia. Jordan FLANDERS, clerk of the court in Emanuel County, GA married a DANIEL and his mother was a JORDAN. The wife of Samuel TARVER, III of Richmond County, GA was a JORDAN. The wife of John TARVER of Morgan County, GA was a JORDAN, sister of Samuel's wife. The WHITFIELDS, JORDANS, WARRENS, BRYANS, WOOTENS, COUNCILLS and TARVERS were thicker than thieves and Counsel (Counsel Daniel WISE) is a middle name in my DANIEL bunch..... Another name you will see around this bunch is Warren, named for the WARREN family. JORDAN is also pronounced, JERDAN and sometimes spelled, JOURDAN. George JORDAN II and Sarah HUNT, the ancestors of these JORDANS I mentioned, died in your favorite stomping grounds, Northampton County, NC. However, their actual parents were George JORDAN III and Patience WARREN, hence the Warren connection to this bunch. To show you how close they all were, Patience's sister, Chloe WARREN, married Matthew WHITFIELD and their daughter, Elizabeth WHITFIELD, married Capt. Aaron DANIEL, who I think was either one of my GGF's or GGU's - I am not sure which. I think I can tell you the answer to that question when I find out who the parents of Chesley C. DANIEL (b. ABT 1815) of Burke County, GA, as well as the reasons for the ERWIN/IRWIN/IRVIN/ERVIN, WISE and TAYLOR connections in the first generation of my DANIEL bunch in Burke. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] John Moore family > Well, if all you folks studying these Moores come across the origins of > Jordan (Jurdan) Moore, born abt 1798 in North Carolina, in Upson County, GA > by 1830, and in Coffee County, AL by 1860 (and probably closer to 1850), > give me a shout. > > Jack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:35 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] John Moore family > > > > Good Morning, > > John MOORE (1755-1804) did not die in Pitt County, NC. He died in > > Jefferson County, GA in 1804. He did marry Winnie HARDAMAN, as you noted. > > Winnie was the d/o Thomas HARDAMAN RS-NC and Elizabeth. Some also list > this > > John as a son of a John MOORE II and a Hannah HOLLINGSWORTH of Frederick > > County, VA but I believe this assignment is wrong. > > John MOORE was a brother of Samuel MOORE who married Arty HARDAMAN, > > Winnie's sister. I also believe both of them to be the children of Samuel > > MOORE born 1727 in Pitt County, NC, the son of Samuel MOORE (b. 1707, > > Berkeley Precinct, Princess Anne County, VA and died 1790 in Beaufort > > County, NC) and Sarah MOYE, d/o George MOYE, Sr. and UNK. > > I am unsure this Samuel and John MOORE, who married these two HARDAMAN > > girls, were the sons of this 1727 Samuel MOORE of Pitt County, NC but I am > > pretty sure they are out of this Pitt County, NC MOORE family for the > > following reason. Josiah SIRMANS also married one of these HARDAMAN girls > > and the SIRMANS, HARDAMANS, MOORES, MOYES and the DANIELS were all over > each > > other in Pitt County, NC in the 1770-1790 time frame. We also know that > > Thomas HARDAMAN moved to Beaufort Precinct, SC before his move to GA and > > some of this same DANIEL family also moved to Beaufort District, SC, as > did > > the TOMLINSONS, one of which also married one of these same HARDAMAN > girls. > > In fact, it appears my paternal DANIEL family and maternal, TOMLINSON > > family, were all over each other in Pitt County, NC in the pre-1790 time > > frame, something I never considered. > > I am sure most Wiregrass researchers who are familiar with these > > families know of the marriage of Capt. John TOMLINSON RS-SC (1750-1801) > and > > Rebecca Lucretia HARDAMAN, another HARDAMAN sister, but I am not sure they > > know of these connections extend all the way back to Pitt County, NC and > how > > these other families are also involved in this equation. > > Capt. John TOMLINSON and Rebecca Lucretia HARDAMAN are my maternal 5th > > great-grandparents. My grandmother was a TOMLINSON, a daughter of Harris > > TOMLINSON (1852-1936) and Arlia Ann Barbara DAME (1854-1940) of Tomlinson, > > Clinch County, GA. > > I am not totally against the idea that Capt. Robert Lanier DANIEL > > (1718-1794) RS-NC of Pactolus, Pitt County, NC was not my paternal 3rd > GGF. > > Somehow the CASONS also seem to fit into this equation but I do not know > > exactly how, yet. > > I do know that a daughter of John CASON, Sr. (1728-1816) and Eleanor > > PINKETT of Pitt County, NC "married a Robert DANIEL" but I am not unsure > if > > this is the same Robert C. DANIEL (ABT 1765-AFT 1830) who migrates to > Burke > > County, GA in 1812 from NC of his father, possibly Capt. RLD. Regardless, > > the person who appears to be RCD's son, Robert Williams DANIEL, Esq. > > (1809-1865) of Bethany, Jefferson County, GA was my great grandfather. > > I also know that John CASON, Sr. died in Burke County, GA in 1816. > John > > CASON, Sr. was also the father of Rachel CASON who married Colson ADAMS, > > Eleanor CASON who married James ALBRITTON, Jr., Jean CASON who married > > Colson's brother, Peter ADAMS, and Frances CASON who married John HATTON, > > another name all over these Pitt County, NC deeds. John CASON, Sr. was > the > > son of William CASON and Jane Anne CANNON of Pitt County, NC, formerly > > Princess Anne County, VA. We also know the MOORES and MOYES moved from > > Princess Anne, along with the CANNONS and CASONS, to the Beaufort County , > NC > > area and "reportedly" these MOORES of Princess Anne County, VA supposedly > > descend from a son of Gov. James MOORE of Charleston, SC. > > The best possible collateral match for this Burke County, GA DANIEL > > family appears to be Pitt, Beaufort and Northampton County, NC area. I > also > > know that my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL, cut deeds in the 1850's for Benajah A. > > MOYE, a son of Capt. George MOYE, III and Sarah BRADBURY of Pitt County, > NC > > and later, Gilberts District, Washington County, GA. I also know this > > Benajah (probably Benjamin) A. MOYE (ABT 1800-1880) married Vienna Augusta > > MARSHALL (ABT 1829-AFT 1850) on 21 Nov 1847 in Jefferson County, GA. She > > was a d/o Lewis Francis MARSHALL and Celia Ann TARVER of Jefferson County, > > GA. > > Lewis Francis MARSHALL was the son of a Joseph MARSHALL, Sr. (ABT > > 1765-BEF 1830) and an Ann (ABT 1770-1845), possibly SMITH, of Jefferson > > County, GA. I also know my GGU, James L. DANIEL (1814-1857) was the > executor > > for the estate of this Ann MARSHALL in 1845 in Jefferson County, GA. I > also > > know that Joseph MARSHALL, Sr. was living right next to Rev. Jordan SMITH > > and his wife, Mary GAINER, in Jefferson County, GA in 1820. I also > believe > > that Ann MARSHALL was Rev. SMITH's sister but I may be wrong in this > > assumption but, regardless, I feel they were related. I also believe this > > Rev. SMITH was related to the Noah SMITH, Sr, and Jr. whose SMITH family > > also seems to follow this DANIEL bunch from Burke to Jefferson County, GA. > > One of my DANIEL GGA's also married a TARVER, so this bunch seems to be > > pretty closely connected. > > One of my grand aunts, Julia R. DANIEL (b. 1842/1843) also married a > > Luther C. SMITH in Jefferson County, GA in 1859. She, her husband, my GGF > > and the family of Noah and Wylanty (WAY) SMITH, Jr. lived side by side in > > Jefferson County, GA in 1860. This tells me, family. > > Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? I am missing just one bit > of > > critical information which would tie this whole family together. It will > > not be found in POWG because we already know quite a few of the DANIEL > > assignments from this well respected work are wrong. I assume these > errors > > from this compiled work also extend to other families, as well. > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <JOANH954@aol.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 5:03 AM > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] John Moore family > > > > > > > from the Wiregrass List: > > > > > > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:41:51 -0500 > > > From: <njw@bellsouth.net> > > > To: WIREGRASS-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [WG] Fw: John Moore ca:1755, NC>GA > > > > > > Seeking help in finding the parents/ancestors of John Moore SR., b: abt > > 1755 > > > in Pitt Co., NC, and died there > > > in 1815. John was married to Winifred(Winnie) Hardeman in St. Georges > > > Parrish, Burke Co., GA. John and > > > Winnie had the following children; > > > Thomas Moore > > > Caleb Moore, b: 1760 > > > John Moore Jr., b: 1785 > > > Spencer Moore, b: 1800 > > > > > > Any help you may be able to provide will be gratefully appreciated. I > > have a > > > lot of info on Johns descendents > > > if anyone needs help. TIA. > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > > at: > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > the subject of a reply message. > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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>>I also checked to see if Payne had anything new on this Kelso-Daniel bunch and his information was so new, he did not even have them listed anywhere on his website, that I could find. <grin> << JRC Just in case that you missed it, the James and Jean Kelso Daniel family are ensconced in the Roger Daniell family on my web page. Roger's lineage may be questionable but these folks were not Middlesex Daniels. So, please reedirate the new stuff that may be of interest. Nite Ya'll, Payne

John, your tact is remarkable, are Karen and I third persons on the fringe of your present excursion into the various families that we may work on, such as the Cunningham's. I have no problem with taking shots head on so long as it is constructive. Can't you merely ask me why I don't have the Kelso-Daniel information posted? Karen can speak for herself, she may not be as fragile as I am. <grin> Ticked in Tampa, Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] The CUNNINGHAMS of Cub Creek, PA > Good Morning, > Since we have been bouncing back and forth between various DANIEL > bunches from Virginia and Eastern NC, I thought I would throw this out on > the table for discussion... > Last evening I spent a considerable amount of time going through List > Member, Karen COTTER's, description of the CUNNINHAMS of Cub Creek, PA. > Some of her information was very familiar, some of it corrected some > information I already had on this family and some of it really confused me. > I cannot tell you -- this information was Greek to me or that some of it > did not tie into my overall bunch, it did. However, some of it seemed to > tie to families that made no sense to me, whatsoever. > Take for instance the Peter COFFEE family. We know some of the children > of Peter COFFEE married into the family of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY. > We also know where the BURNEYS were from (Craven County, NC) and what DANIEL > family they seem to connect to -- the T&E bunch. > So, what was Karen doing with Peter COFFEE amongst her Cub Creek, PA > CUNNINGHAM bunch. This made no sense to me. However, the profile of her > CUNNINGHAM bunch matches, perfectly, with the children of Charles DANIEL > (1773-1803) and Elizabeth COFFEE. This begs the questions -- if she married > Charles DANIEL, was he really a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY? > I have no compunctions about making Charles's father, Thomas DANIEL, a > Virginia DANIEL but Thomas is not even a name in that bunch nor was he even > mentioned in her material. She had all of the DANIEL boys who married into > her CUNNINGHAM bunch in Greene County, GA, as well as their parents, James > DANIEL and Jean KELSO, but little, if anything, about this COFFEE > connection. As most know, they say that James DANIEL was a son of John > DANIEL III and Ann BATES of York County, VA but I get the feeling this is > all wrong. I also checked to see if Payne had anything new on this > Kelso-Daniel bunch and his information was so new, he did not even have them > listed anywhere on his website, that I could find. <grin> I think he used > to have them linked to the Middlesex DANIEL bunch, the last time I checked. > I also noted her link to the COLBERTS, a name close to my bunch. She > even has ties between her bunch and the WINGFIELDS and I know where that > bunch was from - New Kent County, VA. However, the BURNEYS and the > WINGFIELDS were also close. She even has the CARLTONS in this bunch but the > Morgan County, GA CARLTON family was from Duplin County, NC but before that, > they were from PA -- Chester County, PA. > I just do not know about her material as to whether this information is > accurate or she is confusing persons of the same name with those of an > identical name but were from somewhere else. We know where the Simon > BURNEYS were from -- Carven County, NC. However, the COFFEES would have > probably run across the CUNNINGAMS since they both lived in PE County, VA at > one point. > The one thing I know about this total bunch, it smells of "Irish green" > all over the place, including the COFFEES. I just do not know about some > of her information nor some of the conflicts I see in some of it. > The one thing I feel is -- if these DANIEL boys married that heavily > into her CUNNINGHAM family in Greene County, GA then you can bet their > parents, James DANIEL and Jean KELSO, probably followed them all the way > from Ireland or James had parents who were from the same area in Ireland. > In fact, her Samuel CUNNINGHAM married Jean KELSO after his wife died and > her husband died. That, to me, is a very close family. > The one thing that really caught my eye was the James CUNNINGHAM who > Karen says was an early merchant in Madison, Morgan County, GA, a profession > my RICHTER bunch was also in during a slightly later time frame, also in > Madison. I also know this Jimmy CUNNINGHAM was also listed with Henry > CARLTON in a horse racing endeavor in Madison in 1809 and the CARLTONS were > also listed as being with her Cub Creek CUNNINGHAM bunch. > Henry CARLTON's daughter, Lucy, also married a James Harris PONDER, Sr. > (1786-1864) and he was the GGF of Lucille PONDER (1895-1973) who married my > father, as his first wife. Henry's brother, John K. CARLTON married an > ALDERMAN and they moved to Thomasville, Thomas County, GA. Their grand > daughter, Edna Sophronia CHASTAIN, married Russell R. RENEAU (1832-1862) in > 1855 in Thomasville and his sister, Mary Jane RENEAU, my GGM, married my > GGF, Robert W. DANIEL in 1852 in Jefferson County, GA and their daughter, > Alice E. DANIEL (1854-1924) married my grandfather, John C. RICHTER, Sr. in > 1872 in Madison, GA. A Round-Robin, I do not know.... > What I do know is there is not a Robert or Thomas DANIEL anywhere in > sight in this Cunningham-Daniel bunch of Greene County, GA, although they > match most of these DANIELS, financially, to a tee. I also do not know > whether this may be a DANIEL cross-line or not. > What I do know is -- a lot of collateral links she carries do not make > sense to me -or- they make what I have, not make sense. I do not know which > is correct. You can bet I will take a much closer look at her information. > If anyone wants a copy of her information drop me a private note and I will > send you a MS Word Document which contains her Cunningham information. > Make sure you have MS Word on your computer because you can not view it, > otherwise........... > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net >

These are my Daniels. She was a daughter of Motty Alonzo Daniels and Anna Belle Nelson. If you go to Rootsweb, to the WorldConnect project and search for Motty Daniels, you will find them. I put my entries in all caps, so it is easy to spot. I can go back several generations to Thomas Daniel 1750-1825, who was probably a great grandson of James Daniel of Essex County, VA. There are two blank generations because so many records are lost in Caroline County, VA. We hope to prove the relationship as we have found a proved descendant of James Daniel who will participate in our DNA project. Kevin Judy Garner wrote: >Kevin, I joined this Daniel-L list for my hubby's family, the Daniels that >came from Pitt Co.NC, to Screven Co.Ga and then to the Territory of Florida. >But today, looking at your Daniels site.... I was surprised.....I was born >in Rensselaer, Jasper Co.IN and I have a Daniels connection there in my >family. Hope you can help me. >My cousin, Richard Lee Critser,b:6Apr1939,Rensselaer,IN, d:11 Sep1970. He >married:2 Feb 1957, Nancy Ann Daniels, b:11 Sept 1936-7,Rensselaer,IN and >d:23Feb2003,Omaha, Nebraska. I'm looking for the parents of Nancy Ann >Daniels. She M2: Jack Foltz. Surely she ties into some of your Jasper >County, Indiana Daniels??? >Appreciate any help you might give me on Nancy Daniels. >Thank you, Judy > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kevin W. Q. Daniel" <kwdaniel1@mindspring.com> >To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:35 PM >Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - Waco, TX > > > > >>I had Daniels in Liberty, Tyler, Hardin, Hays, Shelby, and Jefferson >>Counties, Texas before 1880. They were in Jefferson in the late 1840s. I >>also had another bunch move down to Grayson County, TX in the early >>1900s, though they had changed their name to Dannel by then. >> >>My genealogy can be accessed from my web site, www.kevindaniel.com. >> >>Kevin >> >>Ruth Newlan wrote: >> >> >> >>>OK - there you go! I knew someone out here had mentioned their Daniel's >>>being from Waco or Liberty Co., TX. One of my Daniel's line goes to Waco >>> >>> >in > > >>>late 1880's & was a well known Baptist Minister in the area & was >>> >>> >missionary > > >>>to Cuba and Brazil - but Waco was his home. He was Charles Davis Daniel >>> >>> >who > > >>>married Lena Kirk. >>> >>>I have several aunt's and uncle's that would be highly upset (fighting >>> >>> >mad > > >>>would be more like it) to be told that they weren't kid to Price Daniel, >>>anyway - don't know about Bill. Oh, brother! They just won't hear any >>> >>> >part > > >>>of it not being so. They are very old - so, I don't get them upset by >>>talking about facts. I've looked for the connection - but, if there was >>>one - it's back further than Price or his father. >>> >>>- Ruth in Portland, OR >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> >>>To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 2:43 PM >>>Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - DANIEL-D Digest V03 >>> >>> >#475 > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Gloria, if I remember correctly, you family story also says that your >>>>ancestor is from the Liberty County group - and that he is buried in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Liberty >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>County. >>>> >>>>I do not see any way that both stories can be true. >>>> >>>>Jack Butler >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: <Taosbg@aol.com> >>>>To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 5:22 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - DANIEL-D Digest V03 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>#475 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Anne, >>>>>I was interested in seeing you mention the French Huguenots as >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>collaterals >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>of >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>the Daniel line. >>>>>My Daniel cousin took the DNA and he matched Lucy's line and was a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>mutation >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>off a couple of others. He will not be moved from the story his >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>grandfather >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>told him of their grandpa Joseph's (Josephus) father being French and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>fighting at >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>the seige of Savannah. He deserterd and stayed in this country. >>>>>My cousin feels the story goes back far enough it must be true. >>>>>Gloria >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== >>>>>IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>at: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== >>>>IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>at: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== >>>Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Kevin, I joined this Daniel-L list for my hubby's family, the Daniels that came from Pitt Co.NC, to Screven Co.Ga and then to the Territory of Florida. But today, looking at your Daniels site.... I was surprised.....I was born in Rensselaer, Jasper Co.IN and I have a Daniels connection there in my family. Hope you can help me. My cousin, Richard Lee Critser,b:6Apr1939,Rensselaer,IN, d:11 Sep1970. He married:2 Feb 1957, Nancy Ann Daniels, b:11 Sept 1936-7,Rensselaer,IN and d:23Feb2003,Omaha, Nebraska. I'm looking for the parents of Nancy Ann Daniels. She M2: Jack Foltz. Surely she ties into some of your Jasper County, Indiana Daniels??? Appreciate any help you might give me on Nancy Daniels. Thank you, Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin W. Q. Daniel" <kwdaniel1@mindspring.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - Waco, TX > I had Daniels in Liberty, Tyler, Hardin, Hays, Shelby, and Jefferson > Counties, Texas before 1880. They were in Jefferson in the late 1840s. I > also had another bunch move down to Grayson County, TX in the early > 1900s, though they had changed their name to Dannel by then. > > My genealogy can be accessed from my web site, www.kevindaniel.com. > > Kevin > > Ruth Newlan wrote: > > >OK - there you go! I knew someone out here had mentioned their Daniel's > >being from Waco or Liberty Co., TX. One of my Daniel's line goes to Waco in > >late 1880's & was a well known Baptist Minister in the area & was missionary > >to Cuba and Brazil - but Waco was his home. He was Charles Davis Daniel who > >married Lena Kirk. > > > >I have several aunt's and uncle's that would be highly upset (fighting mad > >would be more like it) to be told that they weren't kid to Price Daniel, > >anyway - don't know about Bill. Oh, brother! They just won't hear any part > >of it not being so. They are very old - so, I don't get them upset by > >talking about facts. I've looked for the connection - but, if there was > >one - it's back further than Price or his father. > > > >- Ruth in Portland, OR > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jack V Butler" <JackVButler@comcast.net> > >To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 2:43 PM > >Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - DANIEL-D Digest V03 #475 > > > > > > > > > >>Gloria, if I remember correctly, you family story also says that your > >>ancestor is from the Liberty County group - and that he is buried in > >> > >> > >Liberty > > > > > >>County. > >> > >>I do not see any way that both stories can be true. > >> > >>Jack Butler > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: <Taosbg@aol.com> > >>To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 5:22 PM > >>Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Re: Bill and Price Daniel - DANIEL-D Digest V03 > >> > >> > >#475 > > > > > >> > >> > >>>Anne, > >>>I was interested in seeing you mention the French Huguenots as > >>> > >>> > >collaterals > > > > > >>of > >> > >> > >>>the Daniel line. > >>>My Daniel cousin took the DNA and he matched Lucy's line and was a > >>> > >>> > >>mutation > >> > >> > >>>off a couple of others. He will not be moved from the story his > >>> > >>> > >>grandfather > >> > >> > >>>told him of their grandpa Joseph's (Josephus) father being French and > >>> > >>> > >>fighting at > >> > >> > >>>the seige of Savannah. He deserterd and stayed in this country. > >>>My cousin feels the story goes back far enough it must be true. > >>>Gloria > >>> > >>> > >>>==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > >>>IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > >>> > >>> > >>at: > >> > >> > >>>http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > >>IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > >> > >> > >at: > > > > > >>http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > >Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > >Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > >Mail Mode: > >mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >or- > >Digest Mode: > >mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > Mail Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > or- > Digest Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

Brenda, I do not have any DRAKES tied directly to a DANIEL family but I have some that were close. One of the early links to the DANIEL family was the Elizabeth TURNER who married Arthur JORDAN (1718-1793). Arthur was the brother of George JORDAN, III whose kids are all over my DANIEL bunch in east-central GA. Elizabeth was the d/o Joseph TURNER and Birchet LUNDY of Brunswick County, VA. Their children are listed below. Sorry but I do not have any of the names of their wives in this list. I have quite a few TURNERS around some close DANIEL families, like the HUNTS. The TURNERS are also around the PIERCE family of Greene County, GA and they point directly back at the ANDREWS family of Pitt County, NC. Prisa ANDREWS married William DANIEL, son of Capt. Robert Lanier DANIEL of Pitt. The ANDREWS are all over this bunch, including the DANIELS, WALLACES, SMITHWICKS, SWAINS/SWANNS, GARDNERS, etc, out of Pitt and Beaufort and we already know about the JORDAN connection to this overall bunch...... Sorry I could not be more helpful. Were any of these DRAKES, Methodist? If so, take a gander at the Oxford Cemetery in Newton County, GA. All the big Methodists are buried, there. <<< Children Elizabeth TURNER b: 1734 in Brunswick, Surry Co., VA James TURNER b: ABT. 1729 in Isle of Wight Co., VA Simon TURNER b: ABT. 1728 in Isle of Wight Co., VA John TURNER b: ABT. 1726 in Isle of Wight Co., VA Ann TURNER b: ABT. 1732 in Isle of Wight Co., VA Sarah TURNER b: ABT. 1733 in VA Mary TURNER b: ABT. 1732 in Isle of Wight Co., VA Burchett TURNER b: ABT. 1731 in Isle of Wight Co., VA >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Joiner" <wheeliebj@msn.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:06 PM Subject: [DANIEL-L] DANIEL/Drake Family-VA to GA-1850 > John, > > Can you or any other list member tell me anything about the Drake Family (specifically Turner Drake) that started out in VA in the 1700's and wound up in Newton Co. GA in the 1800's, in connection with our DANIEL's? > > Thank you. > > Brenda in Alabama > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. > >