Sarah SHERRILL was the daughter of DAVID SHERRILL

Keeping Marriages In The Family ~ The 3rd spouse of Richard ASBURY, Mrs. Sarah WATTS, mentioned earlier... She was Sarah SHERRILL, b: 1786, Wilkes County, GA ~ Daughter of David WATTS. Her 1st husband had been Archibald WATTS, d: JUL 1818, Greene County, GA whom she married 16 DEC 1799, Green County, GA ~ Son of Thomas WATTS and Sarah EARLY. Child of Sarah SHERRILL and Archibald WATTS: Anne Elizabeth WATTS, bc: 1808 ~ married 17 APR 1824, to CORDIAL DANIEL ~ Son of HENNING DANIEL and HANNAH ASBURY. So, John, I must agree with you regarding family associations and their marriages down through the years... up to a 100 years at least, and maybe even near 200. Think about the time I came along, my grams, b: 1869, had had enough... wouldn't even let me play with my male cousins. Anne

RANDLE/RANSDELL/RANDELL mentioned earlier... all from the same "Stew Pot" ~ so, 100 years isn't all that long when it comes to keeping marriages within families, as mentioned earlier.... same thing with the COLEMANs. Children of Luke THORNTON, JR and Margaret [probably] JAMES: 1. William THORNTON, bc: 1702 ~ Married Elizabeth RANSDELL or RANDELL or RANDLE, bc: 1710, Richmond ~ sister to Millicent who married Luke THORNTON, brother of William. 2. James THORNTON, bc: 1704, Richmond ~ dc: 1749, Orange County, VA 3. Luke THORNTON, III, bc: 1706 ~ dc: 1749 ~ Married 02 JAN 1727/28, to Millicent RANSDELL Longworth, widow of William LONGWORTH and daughter of Edward and Mary Ransdell. Children: (1) Luke, (2) Presley, (3) John; (4) William THORNTON 4. Thomas THORNTON, bc: 1708/11, Richmond County ~ d: 1763, Richmond County ~ Married Elizabeth 'Betsy' DAVIS, bc: 1718, Richmond County ~ d: 1793/94 [Will probated 06 JAN 1794] ~ Daughter of Richard DAVIS, b: 05 SEP 1687, and [M: FEB 1716, Richmond] to Mary BERRICK or DERRICK who married circa 1720 to Robert THORNTON after the death of Richard DAVIS. Richard, the son of William DAVIS and [M: 23 APR 1677, NFParish] to Elizabeth THRIFT. NEXT GENERATION ~ 1. William THORNTON, bc: 1702 ~ db: 03 AUG 1741, Richmond County, Virginia Son of Luke THORNTON, JR, b: 1676, Old Rappahannock County, Virginia and Margaret [probably] JAMES, bc: 1680 ~ Married 10 AUG 1727, North Farnham Parish, Warsaw, Richmond County, Virginia, to Elizabeth RANSDELL Talbot, widow of Samuel TALBOT ~ Daughter of Edward and Mary RANSDELL or RANDELL. or RANDLE Child of William THORNTON and Elizabeth RANSDELL or RANDELL 1.a. Jesse THORNTON, bc: 1735, Richmond ~ dc: 1778 ~ married Hannah REDMAN ~ Daughter of Vincent REDMON(D) and Hannah ATWELL ~ Children of Jesse and Hannah: (1) ELIZABETH THORNTON married RICHARD ASBURY, d: GA, (2) Vincent, (3) Stuart, (4) Hannah, d: 1852, Griffin Spaulding, Baldwin County, GA married 25 JAN 1782, NFParish, to Richard SISSON, b: 1760, London; (5) Winifred, (6) Redmon THORNTON, d: GA Child (1) Elizabeth THORNTON and Richard ASBURY's daughter, Hannah ASBURY married HENNING DANIEL.

Payne, Webster's defines "mess" as a "disorderly accumulation" among one of its various meanings. From what I know about this particular DANIEL line, that definition probably describes our knowledge of this DANIEL line about as well as any descriptor I have ever seen affixed to any DANIEL line, unless you are privy to something I am not. What was it you used to call part of this DANIEL line -- the "Bill Brewer Questionable Line?" As you know, I like things neat and orderly. I like families that marry into the same families their cousins, aunts and uncles married into. Makes things, like key assignment and family inter-family relationships, a little easier to understand. Do you not agree? As for your website, you seem to change things so often in the past several years, I sometimes cannot always keep up with your current assignments. One time I go to your website and you have this Daniel boy assigned to one family and the next time I go to your website, you have him assigned to some completely different DANIEL family. I can understand some minor variations in family assignments, within a certain DANIEL family, but I do not understand these changes when these variations cross family boundaries. Early researchers were sometimes a little wrong on who a particular boy or girl were a son of but they were usually in the right ball park, even if they were not in the right section, row and aisle. Several or more times a year I go to your website and try to reconcile our differences, noting them to you, but when one has thousands and thousands of DANIELS, as I do, it is hard to keep up with these changes, especially to key assignments. We have made some key assignment changes in the past several years. One was the straightening out of the mess in the Middlesex bunch, i.e. James DANIEL and Jane HICKS, Chesley DANIEL and Judith, et. al., as well as some of the major changes in the Thomas DANIEL and Elizabeth line out of Tyrrell County, NC and the Simon and Elizabeth line out of Edgecombe but some of the changes I have seen recently on you website are completely outside of my database. Much of this put of different information into an apples and oranges situation, sometimes. I see apples and you are talking about oranges. This may be one of those times. As for the BREWERS, I have lots of BREWERS tied to various families very close to my DANIEL bunch. They are tied to the REIDS, WYCHES, WALTONS and even to a maternal great-grand uncle, George M. DAME of Montgomery County, GA. The DAMES lived in Middlesex County, VA before migrating to Dodge County, GA. The WYCHES, WALTONS and REIDS are all over my paternal Morgan County, GA family, which includes the DANIELS. I have looked at this COLEMAN-DANIEL line, very closely in the past, because of the Eden COLEMAN who ties into the Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY/RANDLE line in Greene County, GA. I assume you still have this "Bill Brewer Questionable Line" tied to the William DANIEL and Elizabeth COLEMAN out of Caroline County, VA? Anyway, that was where it was the last time I reconciled my information against yours and assume it is still there. Regardless, that is where I have it in my information. If you have moved it to another DANIEL family or sub-family, please advise, because I like for our key assignment information to agree. We both know the SNEADS went to KY and any family that usually went to KY had a good chance to floating across the Ohio River into either OH, IN or IL. I have nothing against being related to the SNEADS, at all. Swinging Sammy and I were born on the same day, the 27th of May, and we are both pretty good golfers. <grin> I do not even have anything against being related to the GILBERTS, another KY family, either. Larry GILBERT and I played a round a few years ago and he beat me one stroke on the last hole but I did not hold it against him. <grin> Larry was a nice fellow and a gentleman, as I assume Sammy was, and the world is lesser place for their passing. Do not think that I did not read about the Sen. Strom THURMAN situation with some degree of apprehension, especially since two of the surnames listed for two of his nieces were identical to those of close families and especially since one of the daughters of one of my great-grand uncles, a RENO, married a THURMAN. Nor the fact I have some family pictures taken in the 1850's in this same RENEAU family that don't look exactly Kosher. <grin> I thought this may have been something only attributable to that one RENO family until a cousin told me she had similar pictures in her family albums from the same period. We all know this kind of stuff went on in the days before the Civil War and I assume at least as late as 1924 in SC. <grin> As for facts, I wish I had some to offer you on the RANDLE-BURNEY possibilities, but I do not. I can only say, if the mother of the children of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was a Sarah BURNEY, the d/o Simon, Sr. and Elizabeth HARDY, then that points to Eastern NC for his origins. If she was a RANDLE, a real possibility, that points to VA for his origins, so take your pick. My best guess is she was a RANDLE but I have his wife, currently, as Sarah BURNEY........ John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler Morning John , I am pleased that you visit my web site and find items of interest to share with the List. Howsoever: Joe Daniel and I put the "Bill Brewer" line where it is after some consultation with Bill. "Cobbled Up", even Bill is not 100% happy with the assignment, but a mess in his work, I can't buy that. If you have some constructive input to help us clear up the so called mess??, please let us know in detail. So far I subscribe to the position that Burney and Randall gals were married to Thomas Daniel. When I review your most recent ideas about that possibility, I may change my mind. We need some facts man! Aha, TV basket ball today to cleanse the little gray cells from all this genealogical morass. I am a DUKIE and Robert is a GATOR, so John bring on the DAWGS. Talk to ya'll later. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Payne, > One researcher has Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA married to a Sarah > RANDLE and Sarah BURNEY with the kids being shown as the children of Sarah > BURNEY. They also have this Thomas the son of William DANIEL and Elizabeth > COLEMAN of Caroline County, VA. What a cobbled up line, that is - that is > the Bill BREWER line and talk about a mess, that is it..... > It almost seems that some, when they cannot put their known ancestor > with a specific line, they find the line with the most question marks and > "bingo," they have an instant ancestor. <grin> I think there were probably > two Thomas DANIELS in Greene County -- one, a part of that Kelso-Daniel line > and another from NC. One married a RANDLE and one married a BURNEY. > The only possibility is that BURNEY was not BURNEY but BIRNEY and > floated out of that Northern VA and Maryland BIRNEY family. I know that > part of that family migrated from MD/PA/VA to KY and then back into Northern > Alabama. Because of their opposition to slavery they later peddled their > way back north to the Washington, DC area. > This BIRNEY family is tied to my bunch - the son of General William > BIRNEY and Catherine HOFFMAN of Prince Frederick County, MD, Theodore Weld > BIRNEY (1854-1897), married my second cousin, Alice Josephine McCLELLAN > (1858-1907) in 1892 as her second husband. Her mother was a TATUM and her > grandmother a POTTER, a younger sister of my GGM, Anne Eliza POTTER. Alice > also married a WHITE from Charleston, SC as her first husband but is most > remembered for her latter marriage and name, Alice McClellan BIRNEY.. > This was why I made the note about the McCLELLANDS of Augusta County, VA > in the note about the McDONALDS, O'DONALDS and DONNELLYS the other day. The > spelling of their name was butchered by civil servants, too.. > I do not know about this bunch in Greene County, GA. A lot of their > links do not make sense but they are tied all over the FITZPATRICKS and any > family tied to that bunch has links back to Goochland, Cumberland, Fauquier > and even Augusta County, VA. > I know I am starting to see a pattern here that makes sense. This > Thomas could be a Woodson-Daniel descendant or he could be a part of that > Kelso-Daniel bunch. I do not know but I would like to look at the > possibility they are all related. This is the simplest solution but that > may not be the case. > In fact, one of these may be a DONALD, McDONALD, DONALDSON, DONELLY or > something along these lines and to make things simple down in Greene County, > they just shortened their name to DANIEL. Regardless, they all seem to be > of the same financial and educational profiles. > If I was going to guess, I would say that one of these Greene County, > GA families was out of Lancaster, PA and/or Frederick County, MD area and > was originally a McDONALD, DONELLY, O'DONALD or something along those lines, > which is why we cannot trace them back as a DANIEL. My bet is McDONALD and > the name change occurred around the time of the RW because of the Loyalist > McDONALD family. In fact, some of this bunch may have been loyalists and > dumped the name and took up DANIEL to keep this association out of > subsequent generations. > Personally, I never understand why the CUNNINGHAMS kept their name since > the "Butcher of SC" was a CUNNINGHAM and these folks in Greene County, GA > had to know the hard feelings this name had for many who also migrated from > SC to GA in the years after the RW. This may account for the reason the > CUNNINGHAMS married "so close" - none of the other folks in the area would > have anything to do with them. You know the South, as I do -- hard feelings > and family hatreds linger on for years, regardless of how much money you > have. <grin> > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > Can we have the best of both worlds. That is, Thomas was married to both > gals. What stats do you have on the Burney gal and likewise on the Randall > gal? Can they co-mingle in a relationship with Thomas? I enjoyed your > possibilities and I will keep chewing on this stuff. > > Thanks to John and Mike for their thoughts on my Peter Daniel delema and to > those of you who chipped in on my Marmaduke study. > > Lunch time ya'll. Payne > > "The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of it alive." > -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > Well, Payne, you know how I closely watch family associations in these > > DANIEL families and Charles DANIEL (1773-ABT 1800) of Greene County, GA > > being a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of NC, makes no sense > > whatsoever to me, if he married Elizabeth COFFEE, d/o Peter COFFEE. > > However, it does make sense if Charles's mother was a RANDLE and Thomas > was > > a VA DANIEL and not a NC DANIEL, which the BURNEY link seems to imply. > > > > Also note the many Charleston, SC connections in the family of William > > Coffee DANIEL (son of Charles and Elizabeth COFFEE of Greene County, > GA) -- > > he married a SCREVEN girl whose family was out of Charleston and > Charleston > > families are a big link in my bunch. Dr. William Coffee DANIEL I am pretty > > sure was the GA Senator William DANIEL of Savannah who interceded with the > > senate on behalf of the Methodist preacher, whom Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR of > > Milledgeville, GA had condemned to death in 1832, only to find out later, > he > > was innocent. Remember also, that Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS, > who > > married the widow of Robert W. DANIEL (my GGF), was living with Sarah > > Williamson Bird LAMAR, Judge LAMAR's widow, in Newton County, GA in 1850. > > > > As you will note, my DANIEL bunch of Burke, later Jefferson County, GA > > matches the profile of this bunch from Greene County, GA to a tee and one > of > > this Thomas and Sarah's kids of Greene County, GA were the > > great-grandparents of a girl, Mary Lou HUNTER, who married directly into > my > > RICHTER family in Madison, through the RALLS (also a VA family), COLEMANS > > and DANIEL of Greensboro, Greene County, GA. So, I am already connected > to > > this DANIEL bunch in Greene County, GA in one way but tis the other that > > interests me..... > > > > My bet is that my family of Burke County, GA is related in some way to > these > > Greene County, GA folks, either through Thomas and Sarah or through the > > CUNNINGHAM-DANIEL bunch. However, it could be a class thing and not a > > family thing. > > > > However, there is a pretty good possibility that my bunch had links to the > > Upper Neck area of VA, maybe even Augusta County, VA, which may explain > the > > RENEAU connection in this family. Also, Robert DANIELL's "O'DANIEL family > > of Fairfax County, VA" seems to be the only DANIEL related family that has > > links to both the names, ERWIN, TAYLOR and WISE, that I need for my bunch > in > > Burke County, GA to fly. We also know this O'DANIEL family was from > Fairfax > > County, VA, met the profile of my bunch and probably had many links into > the > > Upper Neck area of VA. They later migrated down to GA through NC and my > > DANIEL or DANIELL bunch may well be a part of this migration but we cannot > > find the name, Robert, in this bunch. > > > > I think the answer to my bunch may be in correcting the DANIEL families of > > Greene County, GA - both of them. I think they are cobbled up, as they > now > > stand, primarily because they do not make sense. > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:33 AM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > Yes I noticed. I remain interested in the Randle and Burney connections > and > > the will you mentioned. > > > > Payne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > Payne, > > > Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that > > DONELLY, > > > McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and > Augusta > > > County, VA which I posted, yesterday? > > > I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I > know > > > they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, a > > lot > > > of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, > this > > > bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, > VA, > > > later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or O'DONALD > as > > > they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, > > > before or after. > > > This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the > > > Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think there > is > > a > > > good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES and > > > BRYAN bunch from that same general area. > > > The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a given > > name > > > in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and > Wilkes > > > County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are > around > > > the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general > area, > > at > > > one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from PA. > > > I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, that > > > confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, > was > > a > > > son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone > has > > > it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a > link > > > to the COFFEES. > > > The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families tended > to > > > marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families married > > all > > > over each other -- cousins married cousins. > > > For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and marry > > into > > > a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL > was > > > out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the > CUNNINHJAMS > > > from VA....... > > > If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was > > > really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported > > > because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then > > > possibly, earlier, too........ > > > For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed the > > > CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to > > Wilkes > > > and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have > been > > a > > > part of this group, too. > > > > > > <<<< > > > IE: > > > > > > Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, > > > a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. > > > > > > Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, > > > £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, > > > Charles Donnelly. > > > > > > Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of Hampshire, > > > to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on > > > Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. > > > > > > MARCH 18, 1768 > > > (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George > > > Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly > > > > > > Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by James > > > McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. > > > > > > MARCH 25, 1769 > > > (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road > from > > > Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. > > > > > > Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James > > > Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on > > > Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. > > > Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. > > > > > > AUGUST 20, 1772 > > > (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. > > > (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose > Thomas > > > Stuart guardian. > > > > > > Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George Mathews, > > > David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael > > > O'Donald. > > > > > > Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised > > > by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man > appraised > > > to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised > > > to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, £14.00.0; > > > 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 servant > > > woman appraised to £12.00.0. > > > > > > Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To daughter, > > > Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); > > > to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, > Margret > > > Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and > > > to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, > William's > > > heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. > > > Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. > > > Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark > > > qualifies. > > > > > > Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and > > > sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, patented > > > 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh > > > Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. > > > > > > > > > Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her > > > right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate and > > > nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew Donnelly. > > > Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. > > > > > > Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow > > > Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to other > > > four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew and > > > Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and > > > son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. > > > Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The > > > two Andrews qualify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > > > > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I > > told > > > > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > > > > > > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to > > > William > > > > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the > > possibility > > > > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and > > Sarah > > > > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the Peter > > > Daniel > > > > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of > Charles > > > and > > > > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann > Mayfield > > > and > > > > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > > > > > > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David Daniel > > and > > > > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. > > There > > > > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the > > > Daniels > > > > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist > > Meeting > > > > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > > > > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > > > > > > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters sharing > > that > > > > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > > > > > > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: 1740 > > in, > > > > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in Cumberland, > > > > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North > > Carolina > > > > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 MAR > > > 1981 > > > > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North > Carolina. > > > 2. > > > > John T. 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"Thomas DANIEL of Greene County married Sarah RANDLE" ~ I like the idea of two Thomas DANIELs in Green County ~ the same as I like the idea of two or more William DANIELs who married an Elizabeth COLEMAN. <g> And speaking of the RANDLE marriages in Georgia... look at the ones below. Greene County, Georgia James G. RANDLE m. Sally COLEMAN, 26 JAN 1808 Susan RANDLE m. Asbury DANIEL, 22 SEP 1830 ~ Son of Henning DANIEL Zymonia A. RANDLE m. William R. THORNTON, 5 NOV 1835 Augustus Henry RANDLE m. Emily Reid ASBURY, 27 JUL 1836 Emily Reid (Reade) ASBURY, b: 28 DEC 1820, above ~ was the half-sister to Hannah ASBURY who married HENNING DANIEL, son of Edmund DANIEL and Elizabeth TEMBTE Murden, b: Maryland and widow of Malachi MURDEN Emily ASBURY's mother was Mrs. Sarah WATTS, widow, and 3rd spouse of Lt. Richard ASBURY, b: 13 FEB 1761, Richmond, VA ~ [married 3rd in 1820 Georgia]. Hannah ASBURY's mother was (1) Elizabeth THORNTON. Parents of Richard ASBURY were THOMAS ASBURY, JR, b: 19 OCT 1725, Overwharton Parish, Stafford County, Virginia ~ d: 1776, Richmond County, Virginia ~ Married circa 1745, Overwharton Parish, to ANNE READE, bc: 1730, Overwharton Parish ~ d: 1796, Richmond, Virginia ~ Daughter of COLEMAN READE and RUTH BRAGG. A number of these same ASBURYs also went to [now West] Virginia and Kentucky `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ````````````````````` The CORDIAL or CORDIL name association Johnson County, Kentucky ~ Rev John Asbury DANIEL, b: 28 JUN 1881 + Rebecca Jane CORDIAL ~ Son of Rev. Wyatt Winston DANIEL ~ Son of David DANIEL. From where did these DANIELs come to Kentucky? Tazwell County, [area portion now possibly West] VA? Which DANIEL group? The name "Cordial" as a christian name has come down in several generations of Edmund DANIEL and Elizabeth TEMBTE Murden's families who moved to Georgia late 1780s. I realize this Reverend DANIEL and his CORDIAL lady were born nearly 100 years later, but isn't this West Virginia area also the same as from where the Revolutionary Soldier, Spilsby DANIEL married Sally ASBURY? "Spilsby" as in Spilsby COLEMAN from the COLEMANs of King & Queen, Caroline and later Richmond County, Virginia and with some family members also in Maryland where Dr. Henning TEMBTE is first found in the early 1700s. And, seems this Rebecca CORDIAL or CORDIL or CORDLE's family were in Wilkes/Rowan county area of North Carolina before/by 1800 with some also in Tazwell... and then to Kentucky and Georgia. DANIELs were in this same NC area also, but where were the CORDIAL families from before 1760s, as that might prove interesting. Anne

Does anyone have any more information on this Daniel? My 3rd great grandfather was William Daniel born in North Carolina abt 1783. His mother's name was Delilah, father UNKNOW Daniel. Delilah had 8 children, I think as follows: Besy? b: ? NC m: Benjamin Elam Martha b: abt 1780 NC m: Henry Inman Jr. Delilah b: ? m: Smith Elizabeth b: 1790 NC m: John Smith William b: abt 1783 NC m: Sarah Matheny in Montgomery Co., NC or Montgomery Co. TN abt 1817 Barton b: abt 1788 NC m: Phebe Howell 1826 in Fayette Co., IL Nancy b: ? m: Inman? Rebecca b: abt 1800 m: Henry Smith 1833 in Fayette Co., IL. I believe that this family left NC before the war of 1812 or at least some of them did. There is a Jeremiah Jr., Basdel, & Barton on the rolls of Davidson Co., TN Militia Co. Delilah Daniel shows up on the Montgomery Co., TN Census of 1820 but without any information of children or herself. She also shows up on the 1818 & 1820 Census of IL, Washington Co./Bond Co. There is also a Jeremiah Daniel, father of the Jeremiah above in the 1818 & 1820 Census and is in the same age group approximately of Delilah. Maybe could be a brother of her husband. I believe that this family migrated from NC to TN and on to IL. I find no evidence that they went to Ohio, IN, and then IL. Any information would be appreciated. I know that the family was very religious, but can't remember whether they were Baptists or Methodists. I believe Baptists. Thank you, Diane Clark Scottsdale, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <WEDAIA@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Robert Daniel Jr. > John, > > THOMAS DANIEL (abt 1740-1818) wife was Deliah unk, per Pitt Co, NC, Bk AA, pg > 320, 1818, TD dec'd, wife-DELIAH DANIEL receives dower of 600 acres. Bk BB, > pg 202, 1818; Harmon Mayo, Luke Ward, DELIAH DANIEL to Rollins, 30 acres. > Believe it is part of Land of THOMAS DANIEL, dec'd. > > I think it was RLD's bro., THOMAS D mrd unk CASON, d/o JOHN CASON. See Bk M, > pg 112,20 Sep 1788, JOHN CASON to ROBERT DANIEL, gr/s for L&A 100 acres; wits > THOMAS DANIEL, ELEANOR CASON. Bk M, pg 647, 1 Jun 1791, JOHN CASON to ROBERT > DANIEL, gr/s for L&A, negro; wit JAMES ALBRITON. > > I believe that the WILLIAM HART mrd SUSAN DANIEL (d/o RLD, s/o TD, s/o > RLD,sr) was from Greene County, NC. They had 3 children: Robert Daniel Hart, Hannah > Holliday Hart, and Anne Elizabeth Hart per his will. SUSAN mrd ROBERT > MARSHALL, moved to Marengo Co, AL by the 1850 census. > SUSAN and ROBERT MARSHALL had 4 children. > (This info is from Dora Pearce, a decendant thru Hannah Holliday Hart, above) > > You & Payne will be the 1st to know what I find in the Land Records in > Greenville, NC in Jan '04 or as soon as construction is complete. > > Take Care, > Will Daniels > Vienna, VA > > > In a message dated 12/15/2003 8:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, > jclarke@rose.net writes: > > > > > Date: 12/15/2003 8:02:59 AM Eastern Standard Time > > From: jclarke@rose.net > > Reply-to: DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com > > To: DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > Will, > > So, these kids were the children of Thomas DANIEL (ABT 1740-1818) and > > UNK wife. From this, we know the last of these kids you list would have been > > born in the ABT the pre-1795 time frame for them to be 21 in the 1818 time > > frame. Is that about right in your estimation? If we read Thomas's DOB > > right, then these kids that you list were probably born in the 1770 time > > frame. > > I think that Capt. Robert Lanier DANIEL (1718-1794), this Thomas's > > father, was married twice and the CASON girl may have been one of these > > wives. Either he married her or one of his sons, also named Robert, married > > her. That, I do not know. > > What I do know is John CASON, this CASON girl's father, moved to Burke > > County, GA and died there in 1816 and this 1816 time frame puts him in the > > same county with my Robert C. DANIEL (ABT 1765-AFT 1830) who moved there > > from NC in 1812. I do not have census records for Robert in Burke County, > > GA before 1820 and by then, CASON, is dead. > > All I know from research of this CASON family is that one daughter of > > John CASON (1728-1816) and Eleanor PINKETT -- Rachel CASON, married Colson > > ADAMS, another daughter, Eleanor CASON, married James ALBRITTON, Jr., > > another daughter, Jean CASON married Peter ADAMS, Colson's brother, and > > sister, Frances CASON married John HATTON. There must have been a John > > CASON, Jr. since John is listed as a "Senior" in my information but I do not > > have the names of any of his and Eleanor's sons, if they had any. > > I will see what I can find on this HART boy. I do know that a HART > > family migrated to Morgan County, GA, probably through Greene because the > > late, MS Carroll HART of Madison, Archivist of GA, descended from this HART > > family. Carroll died last summer and is buried with her ATKINSON ancestors > > in Madison, GA. I also know a HART boy married a FITZPATRICK and a RANDLE > > and this puts them in the Greene, Madison and Morgan County, GA areas and > > into the right overall families. > > I also know that an Ann HART (AFT 1702-AFT 1794) married Allen WARREN, > > Jr (1684-1733) of Surry County, VA and Allen WARREN was the brother of > > Elizabeth WARREN who married Benjamin LANIER, s/o John LANIER III and > > Elizabeth BYRD of Prince George County, VA, Benjamin's sister, Elizabeth > > LANIER, married James ALBRITTON, Sr., parents of James ALBRITTON, Jr. who > > married the Eleanor CASON, listed previously. A little close in this bunch, > > isn't it? I looked at what I had on this whole family and they are still > > playing around in the same group of overall families we see later in the > > Pitt, Chowan, Tyrrell, Beaufort areas. > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >

Morning John , I am pleased that you visit my web site and find items of interest to share with the List. Howsoever: Joe Daniel and I put the "Bill Brewer" line where it is after some consultation with Bill. "Cobbled Up", even Bill is not 100% happy with the assignment, but a mess in his work, I can't buy that. If you have some constructive input to help us clear up the so called mess??, please let us know in detail. So far I subscribe to the position that Burney and Randall gals were married to Thomas Daniel. When I review your most recent ideas about that possibility, I may change my mind. We need some facts man! Aha, TV basket ball today to cleanse the little gray cells from all this genealogical morass. I am a DUKIE and Robert is a GATOR, so John bring on the DAWGS. Talk to ya'll later. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Payne, > One researcher has Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA married to a Sarah > RANDLE and Sarah BURNEY with the kids being shown as the children of Sarah > BURNEY. They also have this Thomas the son of William DANIEL and Elizabeth > COLEMAN of Caroline County, VA. What a cobbled up line, that is - that is > the Bill BREWER line and talk about a mess, that is it..... > It almost seems that some, when they cannot put their known ancestor > with a specific line, they find the line with the most question marks and > "bingo," they have an instant ancestor. <grin> I think there were probably > two Thomas DANIELS in Greene County -- one, a part of that Kelso-Daniel line > and another from NC. One married a RANDLE and one married a BURNEY. > The only possibility is that BURNEY was not BURNEY but BIRNEY and > floated out of that Northern VA and Maryland BIRNEY family. I know that > part of that family migrated from MD/PA/VA to KY and then back into Northern > Alabama. Because of their opposition to slavery they later peddled their > way back north to the Washington, DC area. > This BIRNEY family is tied to my bunch - the son of General William > BIRNEY and Catherine HOFFMAN of Prince Frederick County, MD, Theodore Weld > BIRNEY (1854-1897), married my second cousin, Alice Josephine McCLELLAN > (1858-1907) in 1892 as her second husband. Her mother was a TATUM and her > grandmother a POTTER, a younger sister of my GGM, Anne Eliza POTTER. Alice > also married a WHITE from Charleston, SC as her first husband but is most > remembered for her latter marriage and name, Alice McClellan BIRNEY.. > This was why I made the note about the McCLELLANDS of Augusta County, VA > in the note about the McDONALDS, O'DONALDS and DONNELLYS the other day. The > spelling of their name was butchered by civil servants, too.. > I do not know about this bunch in Greene County, GA. A lot of their > links do not make sense but they are tied all over the FITZPATRICKS and any > family tied to that bunch has links back to Goochland, Cumberland, Fauquier > and even Augusta County, VA. > I know I am starting to see a pattern here that makes sense. This > Thomas could be a Woodson-Daniel descendant or he could be a part of that > Kelso-Daniel bunch. I do not know but I would like to look at the > possibility they are all related. This is the simplest solution but that > may not be the case. > In fact, one of these may be a DONALD, McDONALD, DONALDSON, DONELLY or > something along these lines and to make things simple down in Greene County, > they just shortened their name to DANIEL. Regardless, they all seem to be > of the same financial and educational profiles. > If I was going to guess, I would say that one of these Greene County, > GA families was out of Lancaster, PA and/or Frederick County, MD area and > was originally a McDONALD, DONELLY, O'DONALD or something along those lines, > which is why we cannot trace them back as a DANIEL. My bet is McDONALD and > the name change occurred around the time of the RW because of the Loyalist > McDONALD family. In fact, some of this bunch may have been loyalists and > dumped the name and took up DANIEL to keep this association out of > subsequent generations. > Personally, I never understand why the CUNNINGHAMS kept their name since > the "Butcher of SC" was a CUNNINGHAM and these folks in Greene County, GA > had to know the hard feelings this name had for many who also migrated from > SC to GA in the years after the RW. This may account for the reason the > CUNNINGHAMS married "so close" - none of the other folks in the area would > have anything to do with them. You know the South, as I do -- hard feelings > and family hatreds linger on for years, regardless of how much money you > have. <grin> > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > Can we have the best of both worlds. That is, Thomas was married to both > gals. What stats do you have on the Burney gal and likewise on the Randall > gal? Can they co-mingle in a relationship with Thomas? I enjoyed your > possibilities and I will keep chewing on this stuff. > > Thanks to John and Mike for their thoughts on my Peter Daniel delema and to > those of you who chipped in on my Marmaduke study. > > Lunch time ya'll. Payne > > "The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of it alive." > -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > Well, Payne, you know how I closely watch family associations in these > > DANIEL families and Charles DANIEL (1773-ABT 1800) of Greene County, GA > > being a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of NC, makes no sense > > whatsoever to me, if he married Elizabeth COFFEE, d/o Peter COFFEE. > > However, it does make sense if Charles's mother was a RANDLE and Thomas > was > > a VA DANIEL and not a NC DANIEL, which the BURNEY link seems to imply. > > > > Also note the many Charleston, SC connections in the family of William > > Coffee DANIEL (son of Charles and Elizabeth COFFEE of Greene County, > GA) -- > > he married a SCREVEN girl whose family was out of Charleston and > Charleston > > families are a big link in my bunch. Dr. William Coffee DANIEL I am pretty > > sure was the GA Senator William DANIEL of Savannah who interceded with the > > senate on behalf of the Methodist preacher, whom Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR of > > Milledgeville, GA had condemned to death in 1832, only to find out later, > he > > was innocent. Remember also, that Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS, > who > > married the widow of Robert W. DANIEL (my GGF), was living with Sarah > > Williamson Bird LAMAR, Judge LAMAR's widow, in Newton County, GA in 1850. > > > > As you will note, my DANIEL bunch of Burke, later Jefferson County, GA > > matches the profile of this bunch from Greene County, GA to a tee and one > of > > this Thomas and Sarah's kids of Greene County, GA were the > > great-grandparents of a girl, Mary Lou HUNTER, who married directly into > my > > RICHTER family in Madison, through the RALLS (also a VA family), COLEMANS > > and DANIEL of Greensboro, Greene County, GA. So, I am already connected > to > > this DANIEL bunch in Greene County, GA in one way but tis the other that > > interests me..... > > > > My bet is that my family of Burke County, GA is related in some way to > these > > Greene County, GA folks, either through Thomas and Sarah or through the > > CUNNINGHAM-DANIEL bunch. However, it could be a class thing and not a > > family thing. > > > > However, there is a pretty good possibility that my bunch had links to the > > Upper Neck area of VA, maybe even Augusta County, VA, which may explain > the > > RENEAU connection in this family. Also, Robert DANIELL's "O'DANIEL family > > of Fairfax County, VA" seems to be the only DANIEL related family that has > > links to both the names, ERWIN, TAYLOR and WISE, that I need for my bunch > in > > Burke County, GA to fly. We also know this O'DANIEL family was from > Fairfax > > County, VA, met the profile of my bunch and probably had many links into > the > > Upper Neck area of VA. They later migrated down to GA through NC and my > > DANIEL or DANIELL bunch may well be a part of this migration but we cannot > > find the name, Robert, in this bunch. > > > > I think the answer to my bunch may be in correcting the DANIEL families of > > Greene County, GA - both of them. I think they are cobbled up, as they > now > > stand, primarily because they do not make sense. > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:33 AM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > Yes I noticed. I remain interested in the Randle and Burney connections > and > > the will you mentioned. > > > > Payne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > Payne, > > > Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that > > DONELLY, > > > McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and > Augusta > > > County, VA which I posted, yesterday? > > > I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I > know > > > they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, a > > lot > > > of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, > this > > > bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, > VA, > > > later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or O'DONALD > as > > > they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, > > > before or after. > > > This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the > > > Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think there > is > > a > > > good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES and > > > BRYAN bunch from that same general area. > > > The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a given > > name > > > in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and > Wilkes > > > County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are > around > > > the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general > area, > > at > > > one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from PA. > > > I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, that > > > confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, > was > > a > > > son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone > has > > > it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a > link > > > to the COFFEES. > > > The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families tended > to > > > marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families married > > all > > > over each other -- cousins married cousins. > > > For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and marry > > into > > > a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL > was > > > out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the > CUNNINHJAMS > > > from VA....... > > > If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was > > > really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported > > > because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then > > > possibly, earlier, too........ > > > For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed the > > > CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to > > Wilkes > > > and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have > been > > a > > > part of this group, too. > > > > > > <<<< > > > IE: > > > > > > Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, > > > a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. > > > > > > Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, > > > £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, > > > Charles Donnelly. > > > > > > Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of Hampshire, > > > to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on > > > Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. > > > > > > MARCH 18, 1768 > > > (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George > > > Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly > > > > > > Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by James > > > McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. > > > > > > MARCH 25, 1769 > > > (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road > from > > > Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. > > > > > > Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James > > > Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on > > > Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. > > > Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. > > > > > > AUGUST 20, 1772 > > > (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. > > > (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose > Thomas > > > Stuart guardian. > > > > > > Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George Mathews, > > > David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael > > > O'Donald. > > > > > > Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised > > > by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man > appraised > > > to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised > > > to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, £14.00.0; > > > 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 servant > > > woman appraised to £12.00.0. > > > > > > Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To daughter, > > > Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); > > > to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, > Margret > > > Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and > > > to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, > William's > > > heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. > > > Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. > > > Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark > > > qualifies. > > > > > > Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and > > > sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, patented > > > 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh > > > Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. > > > > > > > > > Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her > > > right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate and > > > nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew Donnelly. > > > Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. > > > > > > Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow > > > Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to other > > > four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew and > > > Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and > > > son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. > > > Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The > > > two Andrews qualify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > > > > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I > > told > > > > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > > > > > > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to > > > William > > > > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the > > possibility > > > > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and > > Sarah > > > > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the Peter > > > Daniel > > > > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of > Charles > > > and > > > > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann > Mayfield > > > and > > > > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > > > > > > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David Daniel > > and > > > > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. > > There > > > > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the > > > Daniels > > > > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist > > Meeting > > > > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > > > > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > > > > > > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters sharing > > that > > > > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > > > > > > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: 1740 > > in, > > > > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in Cumberland, > > > > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North > > Carolina > > > > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 MAR > > > 1981 > > > > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North > Carolina. > > > 2. > > > > John T. DANIEL b: 1819 in Tennessee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a > suggestion > > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Just for the record, John...I did not find "...the line with the most question marks and...[get] an instant ancestor." I have evidence that my ancestor, Benjamin Daniel, was a son of William Daniel and Mary Snead. Beyond that, I have no idea which of the many William Daniels. In fact, I have a strong suspicion that he was an illegitimate son, but have no proof. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Daniel, Joe" <JoeD494005@aol.com>; "Brewer, Bill" <wwb@ix.netcom.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Morning John , I am pleased that you visit my web site and find items of > interest to share with the List. Howsoever: > > Joe Daniel and I put the "Bill Brewer" line where it is after some > consultation with Bill. "Cobbled Up", even Bill is not 100% happy with the > assignment, but a mess in his work, I can't buy that. If you have some > constructive input to help us clear up the so called mess??, please let us > know in detail. > > So far I subscribe to the position that Burney and Randall gals were married > to Thomas Daniel. When I review your most recent ideas about that > possibility, I may change my mind. We need some facts man! > > Aha, TV basket ball today to cleanse the little gray cells from all this > genealogical morass. I am a DUKIE and Robert is a GATOR, so John bring on > the DAWGS. > > Talk to ya'll later. Payne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > Payne, > > One researcher has Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA married to a > Sarah > > RANDLE and Sarah BURNEY with the kids being shown as the children of Sarah > > BURNEY. They also have this Thomas the son of William DANIEL and > Elizabeth > > COLEMAN of Caroline County, VA. What a cobbled up line, that is - that is > > the Bill BREWER line and talk about a mess, that is it..... > > It almost seems that some, when they cannot put their known ancestor > > with a specific line, they find the line with the most question marks and > > "bingo," they have an instant ancestor. <grin> I think there were > probably > > two Thomas DANIELS in Greene County -- one, a part of that Kelso-Daniel > line > > and another from NC. One married a RANDLE and one married a BURNEY. > > The only possibility is that BURNEY was not BURNEY but BIRNEY and > > floated out of that Northern VA and Maryland BIRNEY family. I know that > > part of that family migrated from MD/PA/VA to KY and then back into > Northern > > Alabama. Because of their opposition to slavery they later peddled their > > way back north to the Washington, DC area. > > This BIRNEY family is tied to my bunch - the son of General William > > BIRNEY and Catherine HOFFMAN of Prince Frederick County, MD, Theodore Weld > > BIRNEY (1854-1897), married my second cousin, Alice Josephine McCLELLAN > > (1858-1907) in 1892 as her second husband. Her mother was a TATUM and > her > > grandmother a POTTER, a younger sister of my GGM, Anne Eliza POTTER. > Alice > > also married a WHITE from Charleston, SC as her first husband but is most > > remembered for her latter marriage and name, Alice McClellan BIRNEY.. > > This was why I made the note about the McCLELLANDS of Augusta County, > VA > > in the note about the McDONALDS, O'DONALDS and DONNELLYS the other day. > The > > spelling of their name was butchered by civil servants, too.. > > I do not know about this bunch in Greene County, GA. A lot of their > > links do not make sense but they are tied all over the FITZPATRICKS and > any > > family tied to that bunch has links back to Goochland, Cumberland, > Fauquier > > and even Augusta County, VA. > > I know I am starting to see a pattern here that makes sense. This > > Thomas could be a Woodson-Daniel descendant or he could be a part of that > > Kelso-Daniel bunch. I do not know but I would like to look at the > > possibility they are all related. This is the simplest solution but that > > may not be the case. > > In fact, one of these may be a DONALD, McDONALD, DONALDSON, DONELLY or > > something along these lines and to make things simple down in Greene > County, > > they just shortened their name to DANIEL. Regardless, they all seem to be > > of the same financial and educational profiles. > > If I was going to guess, I would say that one of these Greene County, > > GA families was out of Lancaster, PA and/or Frederick County, MD area and > > was originally a McDONALD, DONELLY, O'DONALD or something along those > lines, > > which is why we cannot trace them back as a DANIEL. My bet is McDONALD > and > > the name change occurred around the time of the RW because of the Loyalist > > McDONALD family. In fact, some of this bunch may have been loyalists and > > dumped the name and took up DANIEL to keep this association out of > > subsequent generations. > > Personally, I never understand why the CUNNINGHAMS kept their name > since > > the "Butcher of SC" was a CUNNINGHAM and these folks in Greene County, GA > > had to know the hard feelings this name had for many who also migrated > from > > SC to GA in the years after the RW. This may account for the reason the > > CUNNINGHAMS married "so close" - none of the other folks in the area would > > have anything to do with them. You know the South, as I do -- hard > feelings > > and family hatreds linger on for years, regardless of how much money you > > have. <grin> > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > Can we have the best of both worlds. That is, Thomas was married to both > > gals. What stats do you have on the Burney gal and likewise on the Randall > > gal? Can they co-mingle in a relationship with Thomas? I enjoyed your > > possibilities and I will keep chewing on this stuff. > > > > Thanks to John and Mike for their thoughts on my Peter Daniel delema and > to > > those of you who chipped in on my Marmaduke study. > > > > Lunch time ya'll. Payne > > > > "The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of it alive." > > -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:29 AM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > Well, Payne, you know how I closely watch family associations in these > > > DANIEL families and Charles DANIEL (1773-ABT 1800) of Greene County, GA > > > being a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of NC, makes no sense > > > whatsoever to me, if he married Elizabeth COFFEE, d/o Peter COFFEE. > > > However, it does make sense if Charles's mother was a RANDLE and Thomas > > was > > > a VA DANIEL and not a NC DANIEL, which the BURNEY link seems to imply. > > > > > > Also note the many Charleston, SC connections in the family of William > > > Coffee DANIEL (son of Charles and Elizabeth COFFEE of Greene County, > > GA) -- > > > he married a SCREVEN girl whose family was out of Charleston and > > Charleston > > > families are a big link in my bunch. Dr. William Coffee DANIEL I am > pretty > > > sure was the GA Senator William DANIEL of Savannah who interceded with > the > > > senate on behalf of the Methodist preacher, whom Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR of > > > Milledgeville, GA had condemned to death in 1832, only to find out > later, > > he > > > was innocent. Remember also, that Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS, > > who > > > married the widow of Robert W. DANIEL (my GGF), was living with Sarah > > > Williamson Bird LAMAR, Judge LAMAR's widow, in Newton County, GA in > 1850. > > > > > > As you will note, my DANIEL bunch of Burke, later Jefferson County, GA > > > matches the profile of this bunch from Greene County, GA to a tee and > one > > of > > > this Thomas and Sarah's kids of Greene County, GA were the > > > great-grandparents of a girl, Mary Lou HUNTER, who married directly into > > my > > > RICHTER family in Madison, through the RALLS (also a VA family), > COLEMANS > > > and DANIEL of Greensboro, Greene County, GA. So, I am already connected > > to > > > this DANIEL bunch in Greene County, GA in one way but tis the other that > > > interests me..... > > > > > > My bet is that my family of Burke County, GA is related in some way to > > these > > > Greene County, GA folks, either through Thomas and Sarah or through the > > > CUNNINGHAM-DANIEL bunch. However, it could be a class thing and not a > > > family thing. > > > > > > However, there is a pretty good possibility that my bunch had links to > the > > > Upper Neck area of VA, maybe even Augusta County, VA, which may explain > > the > > > RENEAU connection in this family. Also, Robert DANIELL's "O'DANIEL > family > > > of Fairfax County, VA" seems to be the only DANIEL related family that > has > > > links to both the names, ERWIN, TAYLOR and WISE, that I need for my > bunch > > in > > > Burke County, GA to fly. We also know this O'DANIEL family was from > > Fairfax > > > County, VA, met the profile of my bunch and probably had many links into > > the > > > Upper Neck area of VA. They later migrated down to GA through NC and my > > > DANIEL or DANIELL bunch may well be a part of this migration but we > cannot > > > find the name, Robert, in this bunch. > > > > > > I think the answer to my bunch may be in correcting the DANIEL families > of > > > Greene County, GA - both of them. I think they are cobbled up, as they > > now > > > stand, primarily because they do not make sense. > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:33 AM > > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > > > Yes I noticed. I remain interested in the Randle and Burney connections > > and > > > the will you mentioned. > > > > > > Payne > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:37 PM > > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > > > > Payne, > > > > Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that > > > DONELLY, > > > > McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and > > Augusta > > > > County, VA which I posted, yesterday? > > > > I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I > > know > > > > they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, > a > > > lot > > > > of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, > > this > > > > bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, > > VA, > > > > later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or > O'DONALD > > as > > > > they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, > > > > before or after. > > > > This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the > > > > Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think > there > > is > > > a > > > > good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES > and > > > > BRYAN bunch from that same general area. > > > > The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a > given > > > name > > > > in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and > > Wilkes > > > > County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are > > around > > > > the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general > > area, > > > at > > > > one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from > PA. > > > > I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, > that > > > > confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, > > was > > > a > > > > son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone > > has > > > > it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a > > link > > > > to the COFFEES. > > > > The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families > tended > > to > > > > marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families > married > > > all > > > > over each other -- cousins married cousins. > > > > For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and > marry > > > into > > > > a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL > > was > > > > out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the > > CUNNINHJAMS > > > > from VA....... > > > > If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was > > > > really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported > > > > because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then > > > > possibly, earlier, too........ > > > > For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed > the > > > > CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to > > > Wilkes > > > > and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have > > been > > > a > > > > part of this group, too. > > > > > > > > <<<< > > > > IE: > > > > > > > > Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, > > > > a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. > > > > > > > > Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, > > > > £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, > > > > Charles Donnelly. > > > > > > > > Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of > Hampshire, > > > > to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on > > > > Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. > > > > > > > > MARCH 18, 1768 > > > > (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George > > > > Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly > > > > > > > > Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by > James > > > > McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. > > > > > > > > MARCH 25, 1769 > > > > (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road > > from > > > > Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. > > > > > > > > Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James > > > > Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on > > > > Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. > > > > Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. > > > > > > > > AUGUST 20, 1772 > > > > (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. > > > > (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose > > Thomas > > > > Stuart guardian. > > > > > > > > Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George > Mathews, > > > > David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael > > > > O'Donald. > > > > > > > > Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised > > > > by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man > > appraised > > > > to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised > > > > to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, > £14.00.0; > > > > 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 > servant > > > > woman appraised to £12.00.0. > > > > > > > > Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To > daughter, > > > > Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); > > > > to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, > > Margret > > > > Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and > > > > to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, > > William's > > > > heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. > > > > Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. > > > > Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark > > > > qualifies. > > > > > > > > Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and > > > > sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, > patented > > > > 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh > > > > Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. > > > > > > > > > > > > Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her > > > > right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate > and > > > > nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew > Donnelly. > > > > Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. > > > > > > > > Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow > > > > Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to > other > > > > four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew > and > > > > Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and > > > > son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. > > > > Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The > > > > two Andrews qualify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM > > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > > > > > > > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I > > > told > > > > > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > > > > > > > > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to > > > > William > > > > > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the > > > possibility > > > > > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and > > > Sarah > > > > > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the > Peter > > > > Daniel > > > > > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of > > Charles > > > > and > > > > > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann > > Mayfield > > > > and > > > > > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > > > > > > > > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David > Daniel > > > and > > > > > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. > > > There > > > > > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the > > > > Daniels > > > > > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist > > > Meeting > > > > > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > > > > > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > > > > > > > > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters > sharing > > > that > > > > > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > > > > > > > > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: > 1740 > > > in, > > > > > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in > Cumberland, > > > > > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North > > > Carolina > > > > > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 > MAR > > > > 1981 > > > > > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North > > Carolina. > > > > 2. > > > > > John T. DANIEL b: 1819 in Tennessee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like > to > > > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a > > suggestion > > > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free > to > > > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a > suggestion > > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > > at: > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > > > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > > > Mail Mode: > > > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > or- > > > Digest Mode: > > > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of > > messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families > or > > those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not > > allowed on this list. > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > >

"A mess in my work?" (smile)....I agree, I'd like to get it cleared up, but I'm not a mess...not too good looking maybe...but a mess? (smile) Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Daniel, Joe" <JoeD494005@aol.com>; "Brewer, Bill" <wwb@ix.netcom.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Morning John , I am pleased that you visit my web site and find items of > interest to share with the List. Howsoever: > > Joe Daniel and I put the "Bill Brewer" line where it is after some > consultation with Bill. "Cobbled Up", even Bill is not 100% happy with the > assignment, but a mess in his work, I can't buy that. If you have some > constructive input to help us clear up the so called mess??, please let us > know in detail. > > So far I subscribe to the position that Burney and Randall gals were married > to Thomas Daniel. When I review your most recent ideas about that > possibility, I may change my mind. We need some facts man! > > Aha, TV basket ball today to cleanse the little gray cells from all this > genealogical morass. I am a DUKIE and Robert is a GATOR, so John bring on > the DAWGS. > > Talk to ya'll later. Payne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > Payne, > > One researcher has Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA married to a > Sarah > > RANDLE and Sarah BURNEY with the kids being shown as the children of Sarah > > BURNEY. They also have this Thomas the son of William DANIEL and > Elizabeth > > COLEMAN of Caroline County, VA. What a cobbled up line, that is - that is > > the Bill BREWER line and talk about a mess, that is it..... > > It almost seems that some, when they cannot put their known ancestor > > with a specific line, they find the line with the most question marks and > > "bingo," they have an instant ancestor. <grin> I think there were > probably > > two Thomas DANIELS in Greene County -- one, a part of that Kelso-Daniel > line > > and another from NC. One married a RANDLE and one married a BURNEY. > > The only possibility is that BURNEY was not BURNEY but BIRNEY and > > floated out of that Northern VA and Maryland BIRNEY family. I know that > > part of that family migrated from MD/PA/VA to KY and then back into > Northern > > Alabama. Because of their opposition to slavery they later peddled their > > way back north to the Washington, DC area. > > This BIRNEY family is tied to my bunch - the son of General William > > BIRNEY and Catherine HOFFMAN of Prince Frederick County, MD, Theodore Weld > > BIRNEY (1854-1897), married my second cousin, Alice Josephine McCLELLAN > > (1858-1907) in 1892 as her second husband. Her mother was a TATUM and > her > > grandmother a POTTER, a younger sister of my GGM, Anne Eliza POTTER. > Alice > > also married a WHITE from Charleston, SC as her first husband but is most > > remembered for her latter marriage and name, Alice McClellan BIRNEY.. > > This was why I made the note about the McCLELLANDS of Augusta County, > VA > > in the note about the McDONALDS, O'DONALDS and DONNELLYS the other day. > The > > spelling of their name was butchered by civil servants, too.. > > I do not know about this bunch in Greene County, GA. A lot of their > > links do not make sense but they are tied all over the FITZPATRICKS and > any > > family tied to that bunch has links back to Goochland, Cumberland, > Fauquier > > and even Augusta County, VA. > > I know I am starting to see a pattern here that makes sense. This > > Thomas could be a Woodson-Daniel descendant or he could be a part of that > > Kelso-Daniel bunch. I do not know but I would like to look at the > > possibility they are all related. This is the simplest solution but that > > may not be the case. > > In fact, one of these may be a DONALD, McDONALD, DONALDSON, DONELLY or > > something along these lines and to make things simple down in Greene > County, > > they just shortened their name to DANIEL. Regardless, they all seem to be > > of the same financial and educational profiles. > > If I was going to guess, I would say that one of these Greene County, > > GA families was out of Lancaster, PA and/or Frederick County, MD area and > > was originally a McDONALD, DONELLY, O'DONALD or something along those > lines, > > which is why we cannot trace them back as a DANIEL. My bet is McDONALD > and > > the name change occurred around the time of the RW because of the Loyalist > > McDONALD family. In fact, some of this bunch may have been loyalists and > > dumped the name and took up DANIEL to keep this association out of > > subsequent generations. > > Personally, I never understand why the CUNNINGHAMS kept their name > since > > the "Butcher of SC" was a CUNNINGHAM and these folks in Greene County, GA > > had to know the hard feelings this name had for many who also migrated > from > > SC to GA in the years after the RW. This may account for the reason the > > CUNNINGHAMS married "so close" - none of the other folks in the area would > > have anything to do with them. You know the South, as I do -- hard > feelings > > and family hatreds linger on for years, regardless of how much money you > > have. <grin> > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > Can we have the best of both worlds. That is, Thomas was married to both > > gals. What stats do you have on the Burney gal and likewise on the Randall > > gal? Can they co-mingle in a relationship with Thomas? I enjoyed your > > possibilities and I will keep chewing on this stuff. > > > > Thanks to John and Mike for their thoughts on my Peter Daniel delema and > to > > those of you who chipped in on my Marmaduke study. > > > > Lunch time ya'll. Payne > > > > "The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of it alive." > > -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:29 AM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > Well, Payne, you know how I closely watch family associations in these > > > DANIEL families and Charles DANIEL (1773-ABT 1800) of Greene County, GA > > > being a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of NC, makes no sense > > > whatsoever to me, if he married Elizabeth COFFEE, d/o Peter COFFEE. > > > However, it does make sense if Charles's mother was a RANDLE and Thomas > > was > > > a VA DANIEL and not a NC DANIEL, which the BURNEY link seems to imply. > > > > > > Also note the many Charleston, SC connections in the family of William > > > Coffee DANIEL (son of Charles and Elizabeth COFFEE of Greene County, > > GA) -- > > > he married a SCREVEN girl whose family was out of Charleston and > > Charleston > > > families are a big link in my bunch. Dr. William Coffee DANIEL I am > pretty > > > sure was the GA Senator William DANIEL of Savannah who interceded with > the > > > senate on behalf of the Methodist preacher, whom Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR of > > > Milledgeville, GA had condemned to death in 1832, only to find out > later, > > he > > > was innocent. Remember also, that Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS, > > who > > > married the widow of Robert W. DANIEL (my GGF), was living with Sarah > > > Williamson Bird LAMAR, Judge LAMAR's widow, in Newton County, GA in > 1850. > > > > > > As you will note, my DANIEL bunch of Burke, later Jefferson County, GA > > > matches the profile of this bunch from Greene County, GA to a tee and > one > > of > > > this Thomas and Sarah's kids of Greene County, GA were the > > > great-grandparents of a girl, Mary Lou HUNTER, who married directly into > > my > > > RICHTER family in Madison, through the RALLS (also a VA family), > COLEMANS > > > and DANIEL of Greensboro, Greene County, GA. So, I am already connected > > to > > > this DANIEL bunch in Greene County, GA in one way but tis the other that > > > interests me..... > > > > > > My bet is that my family of Burke County, GA is related in some way to > > these > > > Greene County, GA folks, either through Thomas and Sarah or through the > > > CUNNINGHAM-DANIEL bunch. However, it could be a class thing and not a > > > family thing. > > > > > > However, there is a pretty good possibility that my bunch had links to > the > > > Upper Neck area of VA, maybe even Augusta County, VA, which may explain > > the > > > RENEAU connection in this family. Also, Robert DANIELL's "O'DANIEL > family > > > of Fairfax County, VA" seems to be the only DANIEL related family that > has > > > links to both the names, ERWIN, TAYLOR and WISE, that I need for my > bunch > > in > > > Burke County, GA to fly. We also know this O'DANIEL family was from > > Fairfax > > > County, VA, met the profile of my bunch and probably had many links into > > the > > > Upper Neck area of VA. They later migrated down to GA through NC and my > > > DANIEL or DANIELL bunch may well be a part of this migration but we > cannot > > > find the name, Robert, in this bunch. > > > > > > I think the answer to my bunch may be in correcting the DANIEL families > of > > > Greene County, GA - both of them. I think they are cobbled up, as they > > now > > > stand, primarily because they do not make sense. > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:33 AM > > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > > > Yes I noticed. I remain interested in the Randle and Burney connections > > and > > > the will you mentioned. > > > > > > Payne > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:37 PM > > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > > > > Payne, > > > > Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that > > > DONELLY, > > > > McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and > > Augusta > > > > County, VA which I posted, yesterday? > > > > I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I > > know > > > > they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, > a > > > lot > > > > of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, > > this > > > > bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, > > VA, > > > > later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or > O'DONALD > > as > > > > they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, > > > > before or after. > > > > This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the > > > > Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think > there > > is > > > a > > > > good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES > and > > > > BRYAN bunch from that same general area. > > > > The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a > given > > > name > > > > in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and > > Wilkes > > > > County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are > > around > > > > the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general > > area, > > > at > > > > one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from > PA. > > > > I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, > that > > > > confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, > > was > > > a > > > > son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone > > has > > > > it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a > > link > > > > to the COFFEES. > > > > The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families > tended > > to > > > > marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families > married > > > all > > > > over each other -- cousins married cousins. > > > > For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and > marry > > > into > > > > a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL > > was > > > > out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the > > CUNNINHJAMS > > > > from VA....... > > > > If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was > > > > really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported > > > > because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then > > > > possibly, earlier, too........ > > > > For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed > the > > > > CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to > > > Wilkes > > > > and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have > > been > > > a > > > > part of this group, too. > > > > > > > > <<<< > > > > IE: > > > > > > > > Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, > > > > a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. > > > > > > > > Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, > > > > £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, > > > > Charles Donnelly. > > > > > > > > Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of > Hampshire, > > > > to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on > > > > Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. > > > > > > > > MARCH 18, 1768 > > > > (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George > > > > Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly > > > > > > > > Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by > James > > > > McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. > > > > > > > > MARCH 25, 1769 > > > > (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road > > from > > > > Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. > > > > > > > > Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James > > > > Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on > > > > Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. > > > > Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. > > > > > > > > AUGUST 20, 1772 > > > > (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. > > > > (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose > > Thomas > > > > Stuart guardian. > > > > > > > > Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George > Mathews, > > > > David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael > > > > O'Donald. > > > > > > > > Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised > > > > by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man > > appraised > > > > to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised > > > > to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, > £14.00.0; > > > > 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 > servant > > > > woman appraised to £12.00.0. > > > > > > > > Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To > daughter, > > > > Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); > > > > to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, > > Margret > > > > Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and > > > > to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, > > William's > > > > heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. > > > > Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. > > > > Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark > > > > qualifies. > > > > > > > > Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and > > > > sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, > patented > > > > 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh > > > > Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. > > > > > > > > > > > > Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her > > > > right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate > and > > > > nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew > Donnelly. > > > > Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. > > > > > > > > Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow > > > > Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to > other > > > > four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew > and > > > > Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and > > > > son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. > > > > Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The > > > > two Andrews qualify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM > > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > > > > > > > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I > > > told > > > > > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > > > > > > > > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to > > > > William > > > > > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the > > > possibility > > > > > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and > > > Sarah > > > > > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the > Peter > > > > Daniel > > > > > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of > > Charles > > > > and > > > > > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann > > Mayfield > > > > and > > > > > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > > > > > > > > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David > Daniel > > > and > > > > > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. > > > There > > > > > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the > > > > Daniels > > > > > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist > > > Meeting > > > > > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > > > > > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > > > > > > > > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters > sharing > > > that > > > > > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > > > > > > > > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: > 1740 > > > in, > > > > > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in > Cumberland, > > > > > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North > > > Carolina > > > > > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 > MAR > > > > 1981 > > > > > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North > > Carolina. > > > > 2. > > > > > John T. DANIEL b: 1819 in Tennessee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like > to > > > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a > > suggestion > > > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free > to > > > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a > suggestion > > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > > at: > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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John, In reference to your comment: "the "O'DANIEL family of Fairfax County, VA" seems to be the only DANIEL related family that has links to both the names, ERWIN, TAYLOR and WISE, that I need for my bunch in Burke County, GA to fly. We also know this O'DANIEL family was from Fairfax County, VA, met the profile of my bunch and probably had many links into the Upper Neck area of VA. They later migrated down to GA through NC." The families associated by marriage with the O'DANIELs in Fairfax Co., Va were MOXLEY, GLADIN, SCOTT, GUNNELL, RATCLIFFE, HURST, HALBERT, TALBERT (TALBOTT), McINTOSH, BRAKELY, , DENEALE,and JONES. We do not know the names of the wives of William II and James O'DANIEL. Other surnames associated with the O'DANIELs there were ALEXANDER, PAYNE, WREN, WEST, ELZEY, WASHINGTON, BOWLING, WISE, KING, GREEN, SUMMERS, NELSON, MASSEY, TURLEY, HAMPTON, FERGUSON, ASKIN, and TURNER. Among the next door neighbors were OWSLEY; Captain Daniel McCARTY, James HERREFORD, James CARROLL, George MASON and Colonel George ALLASON, ASHFORD, SUMMERS, SANDERS, and WINDSOR. The relationships with the BELLs, ERWINs, TAYLORs, RAIFORDs, POPEs, COOKs, HARDWICKs, etc. did not come to pass until after William II, James and their nephew William migrated into SC. So far, there is no indication that any of them actually stopped off in NC before continuing into and getting their land grants in SC in 1753-55. Why they went to SC directly is unknown, but William II and James appear to have done just that. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Well, Payne, you know how I closely watch family associations in these > DANIEL families and Charles DANIEL (1773-ABT 1800) of Greene County, GA > being a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of NC, makes no sense > whatsoever to me, if he married Elizabeth COFFEE, d/o Peter COFFEE. > However, it does make sense if Charles's mother was a RANDLE and Thomas was > a VA DANIEL and not a NC DANIEL, which the BURNEY link seems to imply. > > Also note the many Charleston, SC connections in the family of William > Coffee DANIEL (son of Charles and Elizabeth COFFEE of Greene County, GA) -- > he married a SCREVEN girl whose family was out of Charleston and Charleston > families are a big link in my bunch. Dr. William Coffee DANIEL I am pretty > sure was the GA Senator William DANIEL of Savannah who interceded with the > senate on behalf of the Methodist preacher, whom Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR of > Milledgeville, GA had condemned to death in 1832, only to find out later, he > was innocent. Remember also, that Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS, who > married the widow of Robert W. DANIEL (my GGF), was living with Sarah > Williamson Bird LAMAR, Judge LAMAR's widow, in Newton County, GA in 1850. > > As you will note, my DANIEL bunch of Burke, later Jefferson County, GA > matches the profile of this bunch from Greene County, GA to a tee and one of > this Thomas and Sarah's kids of Greene County, GA were the > great-grandparents of a girl, Mary Lou HUNTER, who married directly into my > RICHTER family in Madison, through the RALLS (also a VA family), COLEMANS > and DANIEL of Greensboro, Greene County, GA. So, I am already connected to > this DANIEL bunch in Greene County, GA in one way but tis the other that > interests me..... > > My bet is that my family of Burke County, GA is related in some way to these > Greene County, GA folks, either through Thomas and Sarah or through the > CUNNINGHAM-DANIEL bunch. However, it could be a class thing and not a > family thing. > > However, there is a pretty good possibility that my bunch had links to the > Upper Neck area of VA, maybe even Augusta County, VA, which may explain the > RENEAU connection in this family. Also, Robert DANIELL's "O'DANIEL family > of Fairfax County, VA" seems to be the only DANIEL related family that has > links to both the names, ERWIN, TAYLOR and WISE, that I need for my bunch in > Burke County, GA to fly. We also know this O'DANIEL family was from Fairfax > County, VA, met the profile of my bunch and probably had many links into the > Upper Neck area of VA. They later migrated down to GA through NC and my > DANIEL or DANIELL bunch may well be a part of this migration but we cannot > find the name, Robert, in this bunch. > > I think the answer to my bunch may be in correcting the DANIEL families of > Greene County, GA - both of them. I think they are cobbled up, as they now > stand, primarily because they do not make sense. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > Yes I noticed. I remain interested in the Randle and Burney connections and > the will you mentioned. > > Payne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > Payne, > > Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that > DONELLY, > > McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and Augusta > > County, VA which I posted, yesterday? > > I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I know > > they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, a > lot > > of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, this > > bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, VA, > > later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or O'DONALD as > > they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, > > before or after. > > This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the > > Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think there is > a > > good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES and > > BRYAN bunch from that same general area. > > The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a given > name > > in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and Wilkes > > County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are around > > the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general area, > at > > one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from PA. > > I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, that > > confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, was > a > > son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone has > > it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a link > > to the COFFEES. > > The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families tended to > > marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families married > all > > over each other -- cousins married cousins. > > For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and marry > into > > a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL was > > out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the CUNNINHJAMS > > from VA....... > > If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was > > really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported > > because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then > > possibly, earlier, too........ > > For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed the > > CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to > Wilkes > > and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have been > a > > part of this group, too. > > > > <<<< > > IE: > > > > Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, > > a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. > > > > Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, > > £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, > > Charles Donnelly. > > > > Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of Hampshire, > > to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on > > Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. > > > > MARCH 18, 1768 > > (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George > > Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly > > > > Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by James > > McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. > > > > MARCH 25, 1769 > > (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road from > > Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. > > > > Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James > > Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on > > Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. > > Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. > > > > AUGUST 20, 1772 > > (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. > > (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose Thomas > > Stuart guardian. > > > > Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George Mathews, > > David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael > > O'Donald. > > > > Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised > > by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man appraised > > to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised > > to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, £14.00.0; > > 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 servant > > woman appraised to £12.00.0. > > > > Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To daughter, > > Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); > > to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, Margret > > Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and > > to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, William's > > heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. > > Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. > > Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark > > qualifies. > > > > Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and > > sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, patented > > 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh > > Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. > > > > > > Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her > > right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate and > > nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew Donnelly. > > Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. > > > > Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow > > Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to other > > four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew and > > Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and > > son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. > > Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The > > two Andrews qualify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I > told > > > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > > > > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to > > William > > > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the > possibility > > > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and > Sarah > > > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the Peter > > Daniel > > > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of Charles > > and > > > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann Mayfield > > and > > > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > > > > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David Daniel > and > > > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. > There > > > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the > > Daniels > > > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist > Meeting > > > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > > > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > > > > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters sharing > that > > > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > > > > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: 1740 > in, > > > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in Cumberland, > > > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North > Carolina > > > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 MAR > > 1981 > > > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North Carolina. > > 2. > > > John T. DANIEL b: 1819 in Tennessee. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Payne, One researcher has Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA married to a Sarah RANDLE and Sarah BURNEY with the kids being shown as the children of Sarah BURNEY. They also have this Thomas the son of William DANIEL and Elizabeth COLEMAN of Caroline County, VA. What a cobbled up line, that is - that is the Bill BREWER line and talk about a mess, that is it..... It almost seems that some, when they cannot put their known ancestor with a specific line, they find the line with the most question marks and "bingo," they have an instant ancestor. <grin> I think there were probably two Thomas DANIELS in Greene County -- one, a part of that Kelso-Daniel line and another from NC. One married a RANDLE and one married a BURNEY. The only possibility is that BURNEY was not BURNEY but BIRNEY and floated out of that Northern VA and Maryland BIRNEY family. I know that part of that family migrated from MD/PA/VA to KY and then back into Northern Alabama. Because of their opposition to slavery they later peddled their way back north to the Washington, DC area. This BIRNEY family is tied to my bunch - the son of General William BIRNEY and Catherine HOFFMAN of Prince Frederick County, MD, Theodore Weld BIRNEY (1854-1897), married my second cousin, Alice Josephine McCLELLAN (1858-1907) in 1892 as her second husband. Her mother was a TATUM and her grandmother a POTTER, a younger sister of my GGM, Anne Eliza POTTER. Alice also married a WHITE from Charleston, SC as her first husband but is most remembered for her latter marriage and name, Alice McClellan BIRNEY.. This was why I made the note about the McCLELLANDS of Augusta County, VA in the note about the McDONALDS, O'DONALDS and DONNELLYS the other day. The spelling of their name was butchered by civil servants, too.. I do not know about this bunch in Greene County, GA. A lot of their links do not make sense but they are tied all over the FITZPATRICKS and any family tied to that bunch has links back to Goochland, Cumberland, Fauquier and even Augusta County, VA. I know I am starting to see a pattern here that makes sense. This Thomas could be a Woodson-Daniel descendant or he could be a part of that Kelso-Daniel bunch. I do not know but I would like to look at the possibility they are all related. This is the simplest solution but that may not be the case. In fact, one of these may be a DONALD, McDONALD, DONALDSON, DONELLY or something along these lines and to make things simple down in Greene County, they just shortened their name to DANIEL. Regardless, they all seem to be of the same financial and educational profiles. If I was going to guess, I would say that one of these Greene County, GA families was out of Lancaster, PA and/or Frederick County, MD area and was originally a McDONALD, DONELLY, O'DONALD or something along those lines, which is why we cannot trace them back as a DANIEL. My bet is McDONALD and the name change occurred around the time of the RW because of the Loyalist McDONALD family. In fact, some of this bunch may have been loyalists and dumped the name and took up DANIEL to keep this association out of subsequent generations. Personally, I never understand why the CUNNINGHAMS kept their name since the "Butcher of SC" was a CUNNINGHAM and these folks in Greene County, GA had to know the hard feelings this name had for many who also migrated from SC to GA in the years after the RW. This may account for the reason the CUNNINGHAMS married "so close" - none of the other folks in the area would have anything to do with them. You know the South, as I do -- hard feelings and family hatreds linger on for years, regardless of how much money you have. <grin> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler Can we have the best of both worlds. That is, Thomas was married to both gals. What stats do you have on the Burney gal and likewise on the Randall gal? Can they co-mingle in a relationship with Thomas? I enjoyed your possibilities and I will keep chewing on this stuff. Thanks to John and Mike for their thoughts on my Peter Daniel delema and to those of you who chipped in on my Marmaduke study. Lunch time ya'll. Payne "The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of it alive." -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Well, Payne, you know how I closely watch family associations in these > DANIEL families and Charles DANIEL (1773-ABT 1800) of Greene County, GA > being a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of NC, makes no sense > whatsoever to me, if he married Elizabeth COFFEE, d/o Peter COFFEE. > However, it does make sense if Charles's mother was a RANDLE and Thomas was > a VA DANIEL and not a NC DANIEL, which the BURNEY link seems to imply. > > Also note the many Charleston, SC connections in the family of William > Coffee DANIEL (son of Charles and Elizabeth COFFEE of Greene County, GA) -- > he married a SCREVEN girl whose family was out of Charleston and Charleston > families are a big link in my bunch. Dr. William Coffee DANIEL I am pretty > sure was the GA Senator William DANIEL of Savannah who interceded with the > senate on behalf of the Methodist preacher, whom Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR of > Milledgeville, GA had condemned to death in 1832, only to find out later, he > was innocent. Remember also, that Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS, who > married the widow of Robert W. DANIEL (my GGF), was living with Sarah > Williamson Bird LAMAR, Judge LAMAR's widow, in Newton County, GA in 1850. > > As you will note, my DANIEL bunch of Burke, later Jefferson County, GA > matches the profile of this bunch from Greene County, GA to a tee and one of > this Thomas and Sarah's kids of Greene County, GA were the > great-grandparents of a girl, Mary Lou HUNTER, who married directly into my > RICHTER family in Madison, through the RALLS (also a VA family), COLEMANS > and DANIEL of Greensboro, Greene County, GA. So, I am already connected to > this DANIEL bunch in Greene County, GA in one way but tis the other that > interests me..... > > My bet is that my family of Burke County, GA is related in some way to these > Greene County, GA folks, either through Thomas and Sarah or through the > CUNNINGHAM-DANIEL bunch. However, it could be a class thing and not a > family thing. > > However, there is a pretty good possibility that my bunch had links to the > Upper Neck area of VA, maybe even Augusta County, VA, which may explain the > RENEAU connection in this family. Also, Robert DANIELL's "O'DANIEL family > of Fairfax County, VA" seems to be the only DANIEL related family that has > links to both the names, ERWIN, TAYLOR and WISE, that I need for my bunch in > Burke County, GA to fly. We also know this O'DANIEL family was from Fairfax > County, VA, met the profile of my bunch and probably had many links into the > Upper Neck area of VA. They later migrated down to GA through NC and my > DANIEL or DANIELL bunch may well be a part of this migration but we cannot > find the name, Robert, in this bunch. > > I think the answer to my bunch may be in correcting the DANIEL families of > Greene County, GA - both of them. I think they are cobbled up, as they now > stand, primarily because they do not make sense. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > Yes I noticed. I remain interested in the Randle and Burney connections and > the will you mentioned. > > Payne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > Payne, > > Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that > DONELLY, > > McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and Augusta > > County, VA which I posted, yesterday? > > I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I know > > they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, a > lot > > of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, this > > bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, VA, > > later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or O'DONALD as > > they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, > > before or after. > > This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the > > Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think there is > a > > good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES and > > BRYAN bunch from that same general area. > > The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a given > name > > in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and Wilkes > > County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are around > > the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general area, > at > > one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from PA. > > I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, that > > confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, was > a > > son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone has > > it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a link > > to the COFFEES. > > The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families tended to > > marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families married > all > > over each other -- cousins married cousins. > > For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and marry > into > > a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL was > > out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the CUNNINHJAMS > > from VA....... > > If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was > > really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported > > because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then > > possibly, earlier, too........ > > For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed the > > CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to > Wilkes > > and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have been > a > > part of this group, too. > > > > <<<< > > IE: > > > > Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, > > a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. > > > > Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, > > £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, > > Charles Donnelly. > > > > Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of Hampshire, > > to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on > > Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. > > > > MARCH 18, 1768 > > (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George > > Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly > > > > Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by James > > McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. > > > > MARCH 25, 1769 > > (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road from > > Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. > > > > Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James > > Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on > > Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. > > Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. > > > > AUGUST 20, 1772 > > (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. > > (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose Thomas > > Stuart guardian. > > > > Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George Mathews, > > David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael > > O'Donald. > > > > Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised > > by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man appraised > > to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised > > to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, £14.00.0; > > 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 servant > > woman appraised to £12.00.0. > > > > Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To daughter, > > Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); > > to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, Margret > > Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and > > to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, William's > > heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. > > Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. > > Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark > > qualifies. > > > > Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and > > sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, patented > > 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh > > Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. > > > > > > Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her > > right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate and > > nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew Donnelly. > > Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. > > > > Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow > > Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to other > > four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew and > > Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and > > son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. > > Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The > > two Andrews qualify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I > told > > > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > > > > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to > > William > > > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the > possibility > > > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and > Sarah > > > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the Peter > > Daniel > > > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of Charles > > and > > > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann Mayfield > > and > > > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > > > > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David Daniel > and > > > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. > There > > > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the > > Daniels > > > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist > Meeting > > > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > > > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > > > > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters sharing > that > > > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > > > > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: 1740 > in, > > > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in Cumberland, > > > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North > Carolina > > > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 MAR > > 1981 > > > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North Carolina. > > 2. > > > John T. DANIEL b: 1819 in Tennessee. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Can we have the best of both worlds. That is, Thomas was married to both gals. What stats do you have on the Burney gal and likewise on the Randall gal? Can they co-mingle in a relationship with Thomas? I enjoyed your possibilities and I will keep chewing on this stuff. Thanks to John and Mike for their thoughts on my Peter Daniel delema and to those of you who chipped in on my Marmaduke study. Lunch time ya'll. Payne "The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of it alive." -- Robert Heinlein, "Job", 1984 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Well, Payne, you know how I closely watch family associations in these > DANIEL families and Charles DANIEL (1773-ABT 1800) of Greene County, GA > being a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of NC, makes no sense > whatsoever to me, if he married Elizabeth COFFEE, d/o Peter COFFEE. > However, it does make sense if Charles's mother was a RANDLE and Thomas was > a VA DANIEL and not a NC DANIEL, which the BURNEY link seems to imply. > > Also note the many Charleston, SC connections in the family of William > Coffee DANIEL (son of Charles and Elizabeth COFFEE of Greene County, GA) -- > he married a SCREVEN girl whose family was out of Charleston and Charleston > families are a big link in my bunch. Dr. William Coffee DANIEL I am pretty > sure was the GA Senator William DANIEL of Savannah who interceded with the > senate on behalf of the Methodist preacher, whom Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR of > Milledgeville, GA had condemned to death in 1832, only to find out later, he > was innocent. Remember also, that Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS, who > married the widow of Robert W. DANIEL (my GGF), was living with Sarah > Williamson Bird LAMAR, Judge LAMAR's widow, in Newton County, GA in 1850. > > As you will note, my DANIEL bunch of Burke, later Jefferson County, GA > matches the profile of this bunch from Greene County, GA to a tee and one of > this Thomas and Sarah's kids of Greene County, GA were the > great-grandparents of a girl, Mary Lou HUNTER, who married directly into my > RICHTER family in Madison, through the RALLS (also a VA family), COLEMANS > and DANIEL of Greensboro, Greene County, GA. So, I am already connected to > this DANIEL bunch in Greene County, GA in one way but tis the other that > interests me..... > > My bet is that my family of Burke County, GA is related in some way to these > Greene County, GA folks, either through Thomas and Sarah or through the > CUNNINGHAM-DANIEL bunch. However, it could be a class thing and not a > family thing. > > However, there is a pretty good possibility that my bunch had links to the > Upper Neck area of VA, maybe even Augusta County, VA, which may explain the > RENEAU connection in this family. Also, Robert DANIELL's "O'DANIEL family > of Fairfax County, VA" seems to be the only DANIEL related family that has > links to both the names, ERWIN, TAYLOR and WISE, that I need for my bunch in > Burke County, GA to fly. We also know this O'DANIEL family was from Fairfax > County, VA, met the profile of my bunch and probably had many links into the > Upper Neck area of VA. They later migrated down to GA through NC and my > DANIEL or DANIELL bunch may well be a part of this migration but we cannot > find the name, Robert, in this bunch. > > I think the answer to my bunch may be in correcting the DANIEL families of > Greene County, GA - both of them. I think they are cobbled up, as they now > stand, primarily because they do not make sense. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > Yes I noticed. I remain interested in the Randle and Burney connections and > the will you mentioned. > > Payne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > Payne, > > Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that > DONELLY, > > McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and Augusta > > County, VA which I posted, yesterday? > > I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I know > > they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, a > lot > > of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, this > > bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, VA, > > later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or O'DONALD as > > they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, > > before or after. > > This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the > > Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think there is > a > > good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES and > > BRYAN bunch from that same general area. > > The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a given > name > > in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and Wilkes > > County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are around > > the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general area, > at > > one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from PA. > > I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, that > > confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, was > a > > son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone has > > it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a link > > to the COFFEES. > > The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families tended to > > marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families married > all > > over each other -- cousins married cousins. > > For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and marry > into > > a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL was > > out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the CUNNINHJAMS > > from VA....... > > If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was > > really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported > > because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then > > possibly, earlier, too........ > > For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed the > > CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to > Wilkes > > and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have been > a > > part of this group, too. > > > > <<<< > > IE: > > > > Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, > > a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. > > > > Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, > > £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, > > Charles Donnelly. > > > > Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of Hampshire, > > to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on > > Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. > > > > MARCH 18, 1768 > > (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George > > Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly > > > > Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by James > > McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. > > > > MARCH 25, 1769 > > (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road from > > Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. > > > > Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James > > Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on > > Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. > > Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. > > > > AUGUST 20, 1772 > > (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. > > (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose Thomas > > Stuart guardian. > > > > Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George Mathews, > > David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael > > O'Donald. > > > > Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised > > by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man appraised > > to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised > > to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, £14.00.0; > > 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 servant > > woman appraised to £12.00.0. > > > > Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To daughter, > > Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); > > to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, Margret > > Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and > > to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, William's > > heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. > > Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. > > Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark > > qualifies. > > > > Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and > > sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, patented > > 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh > > Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. > > > > > > Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her > > right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate and > > nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew Donnelly. > > Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. > > > > Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow > > Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to other > > four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew and > > Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and > > son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. > > Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The > > two Andrews qualify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > > > > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I > told > > > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > > > > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to > > William > > > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the > possibility > > > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and > Sarah > > > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the Peter > > Daniel > > > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of Charles > > and > > > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann Mayfield > > and > > > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > > > > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David Daniel > and > > > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. > There > > > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the > > Daniels > > > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist > Meeting > > > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > > > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > > > > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters sharing > that > > > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > > > > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: 1740 > in, > > > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in Cumberland, > > > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North > Carolina > > > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 MAR > > 1981 > > > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North Carolina. > > 2. > > > John T. 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Well, Payne, you know how I closely watch family associations in these DANIEL families and Charles DANIEL (1773-ABT 1800) of Greene County, GA being a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of NC, makes no sense whatsoever to me, if he married Elizabeth COFFEE, d/o Peter COFFEE. However, it does make sense if Charles's mother was a RANDLE and Thomas was a VA DANIEL and not a NC DANIEL, which the BURNEY link seems to imply. Also note the many Charleston, SC connections in the family of William Coffee DANIEL (son of Charles and Elizabeth COFFEE of Greene County, GA) -- he married a SCREVEN girl whose family was out of Charleston and Charleston families are a big link in my bunch. Dr. William Coffee DANIEL I am pretty sure was the GA Senator William DANIEL of Savannah who interceded with the senate on behalf of the Methodist preacher, whom Judge L. Q. C. LAMAR of Milledgeville, GA had condemned to death in 1832, only to find out later, he was innocent. Remember also, that Professor Winfield Montgomery RIVERS, who married the widow of Robert W. DANIEL (my GGF), was living with Sarah Williamson Bird LAMAR, Judge LAMAR's widow, in Newton County, GA in 1850. As you will note, my DANIEL bunch of Burke, later Jefferson County, GA matches the profile of this bunch from Greene County, GA to a tee and one of this Thomas and Sarah's kids of Greene County, GA were the great-grandparents of a girl, Mary Lou HUNTER, who married directly into my RICHTER family in Madison, through the RALLS (also a VA family), COLEMANS and DANIEL of Greensboro, Greene County, GA. So, I am already connected to this DANIEL bunch in Greene County, GA in one way but tis the other that interests me..... My bet is that my family of Burke County, GA is related in some way to these Greene County, GA folks, either through Thomas and Sarah or through the CUNNINGHAM-DANIEL bunch. However, it could be a class thing and not a family thing. However, there is a pretty good possibility that my bunch had links to the Upper Neck area of VA, maybe even Augusta County, VA, which may explain the RENEAU connection in this family. Also, Robert DANIELL's "O'DANIEL family of Fairfax County, VA" seems to be the only DANIEL related family that has links to both the names, ERWIN, TAYLOR and WISE, that I need for my bunch in Burke County, GA to fly. We also know this O'DANIEL family was from Fairfax County, VA, met the profile of my bunch and probably had many links into the Upper Neck area of VA. They later migrated down to GA through NC and my DANIEL or DANIELL bunch may well be a part of this migration but we cannot find the name, Robert, in this bunch. I think the answer to my bunch may be in correcting the DANIEL families of Greene County, GA - both of them. I think they are cobbled up, as they now stand, primarily because they do not make sense. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler Yes I noticed. I remain interested in the Randle and Burney connections and the will you mentioned. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Payne, > Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that DONELLY, > McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and Augusta > County, VA which I posted, yesterday? > I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I know > they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, a lot > of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, this > bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, VA, > later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or O'DONALD as > they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, > before or after. > This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the > Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think there is a > good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES and > BRYAN bunch from that same general area. > The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a given name > in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and Wilkes > County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are around > the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general area, at > one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from PA. > I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, that > confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, was a > son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone has > it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a link > to the COFFEES. > The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families tended to > marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families married all > over each other -- cousins married cousins. > For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and marry into > a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL was > out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the CUNNINHJAMS > from VA....... > If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was > really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported > because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then > possibly, earlier, too........ > For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed the > CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to Wilkes > and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have been a > part of this group, too. > > <<<< > IE: > > Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, > a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. > > Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, > £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, > Charles Donnelly. > > Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of Hampshire, > to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on > Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. > > MARCH 18, 1768 > (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George > Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly > > Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by James > McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. > > MARCH 25, 1769 > (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road from > Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. > > Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James > Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on > Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. > Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. > > AUGUST 20, 1772 > (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. > (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose Thomas > Stuart guardian. > > Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George Mathews, > David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael > O'Donald. > > Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised > by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man appraised > to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised > to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, £14.00.0; > 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 servant > woman appraised to £12.00.0. > > Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To daughter, > Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); > to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, Margret > Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and > to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, William's > heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. > Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. > Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark > qualifies. > > Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and > sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, patented > 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh > Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. > > > Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her > right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate and > nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew Donnelly. > Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. > > Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow > Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to other > four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew and > Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and > son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. > Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The > two Andrews qualify. > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I told > > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to > William > > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the possibility > > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and Sarah > > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the Peter > Daniel > > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of Charles > and > > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann Mayfield > and > > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David Daniel and > > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. There > > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the > Daniels > > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist Meeting > > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters sharing that > > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: 1740 in, > > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in Cumberland, > > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North Carolina > > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 MAR > 1981 > > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North Carolina. > 2. > > John T. DANIEL b: 1819 in Tennessee. > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL

Yes I noticed. I remain interested in the Randle and Burney connections and the will you mentioned. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Payne, > Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that DONELLY, > McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and Augusta > County, VA which I posted, yesterday? > I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I know > they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, a lot > of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, this > bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, VA, > later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or O'DONALD as > they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, > before or after. > This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the > Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think there is a > good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES and > BRYAN bunch from that same general area. > The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a given name > in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and Wilkes > County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are around > the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general area, at > one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from PA. > I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, that > confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, was a > son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone has > it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a link > to the COFFEES. > The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families tended to > marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families married all > over each other -- cousins married cousins. > For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and marry into > a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL was > out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the CUNNINHJAMS > from VA....... > If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was > really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported > because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then > possibly, earlier, too........ > For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed the > CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to Wilkes > and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have been a > part of this group, too. > > <<<< > IE: > > Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, > a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. > > Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, > £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, > Charles Donnelly. > > Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of Hampshire, > to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on > Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. > > MARCH 18, 1768 > (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George > Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly > > Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by James > McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. > > MARCH 25, 1769 > (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road from > Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. > > Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James > Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on > Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. > Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. > > AUGUST 20, 1772 > (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. > (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose Thomas > Stuart guardian. > > Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George Mathews, > David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael > O'Donald. > > Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised > by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man appraised > to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised > to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, £14.00.0; > 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 servant > woman appraised to £12.00.0. > > Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To daughter, > Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); > to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, Margret > Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and > to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, William's > heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. > Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. > Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark > qualifies. > > Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and > sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, patented > 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh > Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. > > > Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her > right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate and > nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew Donnelly. > Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. > > Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow > Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to other > four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew and > Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and > son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. > Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The > two Andrews qualify. > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > > > > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I told > > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to > William > > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the possibility > > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and Sarah > > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the Peter > Daniel > > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of Charles > and > > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann Mayfield > and > > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David Daniel and > > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. There > > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the > Daniels > > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist Meeting > > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters sharing that > > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: 1740 in, > > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in Cumberland, > > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North Carolina > > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 MAR > 1981 > > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North Carolina. > 2. > > John T. DANIEL b: 1819 in Tennessee. > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net >

I also forgot to post these later civil records from Vol 2....... APRIL, 1793 Callender & Henderson vs. Robert Harrison, Charles Donnolly and John Appler SEPTEMBER, 1794 Hugh McDowell vs. James Megonegal--Case. Writ, 24th August, 1792. Plaintiff died during suit. On 17th September, 1793, defendant asked change of venue because of prejudice of his neighbors. William Taylor vs. Anthony Mustoe, William Chambers, William Bowyer. Debt. 25th March, 1794. Abraham Clements vs. Robert Shaw--Ejectment, October 12, 1786, Rockbridge County. Abraham Clements, heir-at-law of Abraham Clements, deceased, who was heir-at-law of Ezekiel Clements, demise 18th June, 1746, 400 acres, known as Broad Spring. Patent (copy) to Robert McClenachan, 375 acres on Mary Branch of James River, cor. James McClung, cor. Robert Campbell, dated 24th March, 1740. Mary Roberts deposes, February 28, 1788, in Frederick County, Maryland, that she was a near neighbor of Ezekiel Clements, of Hopewell Township, County Huntindon, New Jersey, and knew the family 15-20 years. Ezekiel, and eldest son, Abraham, went out to purchase land; said they had bought in the backwoods. Abraham married and had three children, one of whom was a son named Abraham. Copy deed from Bordens' executors to Ezekiel Clements, 1746, in Augusta. This land lapsed on October 18, 1753, and reverted to the Crown. John Tate vs. John Evans and John Parks--Debt. Writ to Rockbridge, 15th February, 1790. Bond dated 1789. Andrew Donolly vs. George Kizel--Augusta County, 22d August, 1787. APRIL, 1790 Andrew Donnelly vs. Adamjah Mathews--A. and B. Greenbrier, 1784, Writ to Augusta from General Court, 7th January, 1785. SEPTEMBER, 1799 Reed vs. Reed--Robert Reed, Collin Reed, Hugh Ballentine and Frances, his wife, heirs-at-law of Robert Reed, deceased, demise, 1788, lot No. 7, in Staunton, and 74 acres in Augusta. Ejectment vs. Mrs. Margaret Reed; she had married George Mathews, who is admitted defendant. Tried in District Court, April 3-4, 1792. Special verdict, viz: Patent to Beverley, 118,491 acres. Beverley, on 13th June, 1750, executed power attorney to Lewis & Madison, who executed deeds, 27th May, 1751, to James Miller for 300 acres, part of the patent. Miller conveyed to Israel Christian, 25th March, 1754. Christian conveyed to William Fleming, 23d September, 1763. Beverley conveyed, 23d May, 1765, to William Fleming, 560 acres. Fleming conveyed, 18th August, 1767, to Robert Reed, late of Staunton, 740 acres. Margaret was wife of Robert; married before above conveyance. Robert died, October, 1787, intestate, and without issue, leaving Margaret, his widow, who has retained possession. Robert was the son of John Reed, of the Kingdom of Ireland. He had one full brother named John Reed, and two sisters of the half blood, one of whom intermarried with William Reed, by whom she had several children; the other with William Buchanan, by whom she had several children, of whose death no evidence has been offered. William Buchanan, son of William, aforesaid, by his wife, Margaret, a half sister of Robert Reed, deceased, was in this commonwealth at commencement of this suit. The father and mother of said William Reed were alive in Ireland in June, 1786. John Reed, brother of said Robert, had issue, Robert, John Collin, Frances, Christiana, Barbara and James. Frances intermarried with Hugh Ballentine. Robert Reed, Hugh Ballentine and Frances removed from Ireland to Virginia, 1784, and Collin, two years afterwards. Robert Reed was enrolled in the militia prior to death of Robert Reed, deceased, and attended muster as militiaman, but probably was never naturalized until 21st November, 1787, and Hugh until 28th November, 1787. Collin has never been naturalized. Robert, Collin, Hugh and Frances were in America prior to death of Robert, and were recognized as children of his brother, John, of Ireland. John died 1785 or 1786, a citizen of Great Britain. John Robertson, patentee with Beverley, survived all the other patentees. Act passed 14th December, 1789, entitled an act for vesting real estate of Robert Reed, deceased, in Margaret Reed and her heirs. James Donnally's deposition in Greenbrier, 26th April, 1790, was: Intimately acquainted with John and Robert, then of Belligay, of Kingdom of Ireland, and County of Donegal. Robert came to Staunton. Robert and John were accounted full brothers in Ireland. John and Robert had two brothers and two sisters of half blood. John lived with a woman named Frances reputed to be his wife, and they had a son, Robert. Robert Reed, Collin Reed, Hugh and Frances Ballentine were born prior to 1770. Reed vs. Reed--Robert Reed, deceased, wrote to his brother, John, in Ireland, saying he was possessed of considerable estate, and asking John to send in some of his children to heir it, and it was in consequence that the plaintiff came to America. William Buchanan, son of William Buchanan of Ireland, died since 1790 intestate and without issue. Robert's mother died before Robert. Beverley conveyed lot 7 in 1749 to John Cunningham. Cunningham conveyed to John Davis, 1758; Davis to Reed, 1763. Certificate of Robert Reed's naturalization in Augusta County Court, 6th December, 1787. Hugh Ballentine, of Greenbrier, in 1798. Deposition of James Donnerley: Was acquainted with Robert Reed before he left Ireland; also his father, John Reed. Robert's mother was dead before deponent left Ireland, in 1761, and John had married again. Hugh owned land in Greenbrier and was about to build, but was prevented by the Indians in 1786, and he was considered a good citizen of Virginia. Taken 24th April, 1798, in Lewisburg, at house of John Mathews. Copy of act to vest the real estate of Robert Reed in Margaret passed 14th December, 1789. Hugh Ballentine took oath of a citizen, 28th November, 1787. Reed vs. Reed--Summons to Montgomery County for James Allen and Mathew Lindsey, 28th February, 1799. Summons to Kanawha for Andrew and James Donnelly, 8th August, 1791. William Rennick vs. Major Dowell and William Moore--Debt. Writ to Rockbridge, 3d April, 1798. APRIL, 1792 William Watts, assignee Layton Yancey, vs. George and John Houston, and Alexander Herring--Debt. Rockingham. Writ, 6th February, 1797. SEPTEMBER, 1790 Fulton vs. Hays & Hill--Affidavit that Richard Woods lives in Greene County, North Carolina, and his deposition, 12th March, 1790, before Benjamin Gist and David Russell. Smith vs. Ewin--Affidavit, 7th May, 1790, that Hamilton Rodgers lives in District of Kentucky SEPTEMBER, 1796 Jamison vs. Kelso--Michael Ayleshi, of Bath County, is about to remove to Holstein. Andrew Kennedy and William Martin are about to remove to Kentucky, 1797. David Martin about to remove out of State. William Rhea and William Martin intend, 3d September, 1796, for Kentucky this fall. Keys vs. McCampbell--From Rockbridge. APRIL, 1799 Lee's administrator vs. Munroe--William Ludwell Lee, administrator, with the will annexed of William Lee, of James City County, deceased, complains of John Munroe, late of Fanlis, in the county of Richmond and State of Virginia, but now of Augusta County, 2d June, 1798. Bond dated in Richmond County 1st May, 1795. John lived in Staunton and took the bankrupt law, 1799. His inventory: A debt due John from Meriwether Jones, administrator Sally Jones, deceased, as a legacy devised to John's late wife, Jane Donaghe vs. Laird--Copy of deed, David Laird and Anne, his wife, of Augusta County, to Hugh Donaghe, assignee of Jeremiah Smith, 1787, recorded in Rockingham, 24th June, 1787. Depositions of Jeremiah Smith and John Donaghe to be taken at the house of David Ruable, in Greene County, North Carolina, 11th November, 1789. Also of James and John Donaghe, and Thomas Davis, on 15th May, 1789, at house of Russell, Greene County, North Carolina. Deposition of Thomas Davis, Samuel Lamb. Donaghe spelled Donaghoe. Commissions to David Russell and Robert Campbeel in Greene County, North Carolina, to take depositions. SEPTEMBER, 1799 Robert Cummins vs. William Bell--Trespass. Writ, 30th May, 1798. John and Jane Cummins, summoned as witnesses, 21st August, 1799. Verdict for plaintiff. Depositions of John Elliott, James Cunningham, Francis Bell, Samuel Bell, Nephew of William Bell, Sr. Jane Cummins, daughter of Robert Cummins, says, 30th April, 1799, that it is about 23 or 24 years since her father came to this place to live. SEPTEMBER, 1800 Beverley vs. John Prior Perkins--No inhabitant. William Wedderburn was inhabitant of Amherst County, 25th June, 1796. Givin vs. Erwin--Writ of right. Rockingham. John Erwin and Ann, his wife; Joseph Dictum and Rachel, his wife, against Benjamin Erwin, Abraham Miller and Michael Miller. Writ, 28th February, 1793. Receipt for Daniel Love's taxes. Copy of patent to Daniel Love, 250 acres, 5th September, 1749, on Cook's Creek. Also original patent. APRIL, 1799 William Dryden vs. Richard Mathews--Covenant to Thomas Barber and Samuel Irvine in Danville, Ky., to take depositions of William McDowell and William Bufford. Notice to take depositions of above and Chesley Calloway, and Nicholas Welch, inhabitants of Kentucky; of Calloway and Welch to be taken at Barnets Town, on Green River. Joseph Barnet and John Beard, Commissioners. Bond by Gideon Davenport, of Spottsylvania County, to Larkin Stanard, 18th October, 1781. Dryden lives in Kentucky, 2d April, 1790. Deposition of William Crutchfield before Thomas Barbee, in Danville, Ky., July, 1794, says he knew Gideon Davenport, who lived in upper end of Caroline or lower end of Spottsylvania, about 1779 and then owned several slaves. Gideon died in Chesterfield County about fall of 1788, leaving no property. Deponent William was raised in Caroline County. William Buford deposes that Richard Mathews was often at his house in Lincoln County, Kentucky, in 1791, and offered to sell him a bond on Gideon Davenport, who, he represented, was living in Cumberland District, North Carolina. Richard Mathews also offered to trade a bond of a certain Colonel Washington in Charleston, S. C., and Richard said afterwards he believed the same Colonel Washington was hung. Sarah Dixon, infant, by Archibald Dixon, next friend, vs. Mathew Robertson--Breach promise marriage. Dunkenson, et ux., vs. Moore--Ejectment from Rockingham. Thomas Dunkerson and Lucretia Dunkerson, his wife, heirs-at-law of Thomas Moore, deceased, six plantations, containing 1,700 acres. Defendants are Reuben, John and Thomas Moore. Copy of patent by Fauquier to Thomas Moore, 26th July, 1765, 200 acres on Smith's Creek, between Davison's, Philips' and Rambo's lands, Buchanans' Cor. Same by Botetourt to Thomas L. Moore, 12th May, 1770, 190 acres on Smith's Creek, Michael Bowyer's line, Thomas Looker's line. Same by same, to Thomas Moore, 12th May, 1770, on Smith's Creek, corner J. Woodley land; John Philips, corner. Same by Fauquier to Valentine Sevear, 200 acres on Smith's Creek, crossing Daniel Jones' Branch, 27th June, 1764. Consideration is importation of four persons, viz: James Porteus, John Poe, Patrick McDonald and Daniel Warner. Patent by Gooch, 12th January, 1746, to James Wood, for 370 acres on Smith's Creek. Patent by Fauquier, 31st October, 1765, to Thomas Looker (Lobker ?) for 68 acres on Long Meadows or North River Shan. Deed by Thomas Loker, of Rockingham, 17th February, 1791, to Thomas Moore, Sr. Thomas Loker. Test: Reuben Moore, Thomas Loker, Jr., Philip Counce, recorded Rockingham, 27th June, 1791. 20th August, 1801, jury, John Carthrea, Jr., George Rader, Jacob Bear, Mathias Anson, Michael Lohr, James Green, George Chrisman, David Caldwell, John Crotzer, Casper Mifford, Evan Thomas, Alexander Graham. Jury find Thomas Moore died intestate, 1797, leaving plaintiff, Lucretia, and defendants, his only children, appeal to Supreme Court, and their appeal dismissed. Judgment for plaintiffs Daniel Fall vs. William Varner--Defendant returned, no inhabitant of Bath SEPTEMBER, 1793 Donaghe vs. Ailer--James Oliver, Abbeville County, South Carolina, 20th September, affirms he never made claim to the waters of Naked Creek belonging to Anthony Oaler Michael Fackler vs. William Chambers and Jacob Geiger--Ejectment from lot 10 in Staunton Byrd, assignee, vs. Aaron Hughes--Bond by Aaron Hughes, of Conwell County, State of Franklin, to James Hubbart, of same place, 21st October, 1785. Commission to take depositions of Mark Jordan, James Cunningham and Andrew Greer, Sr., inhabitants of the territory south of Ohio River April 2, 1793. Commission is addressed to George Dougherty, Andrew Henderson, John Blackburn, Landon Carter and James Stuart. Ceded territory of United States south of Ohio, Jefferson County. Affidavit before Parmenus Taylor and Garret Fitz, by James Cunningham, 23d March, 1793. Deposition of Mark Jordan (Jreden ?) in Jefferson County, territory south of Ohio, 15th August, 1793, that Aaron authorized his son, Abraham, to sign the bond. Deposition of Andrew Greer, in Washington County, same territory, 19th August, 1793. SEPTEMBER, 1796 Fletcher vs. Kelso--Eleanor Fletcher, heiress of Rev. John Hindman, conveyed Hindman's land to Fletcher. Deed was executed long "potesior" to death of her husband, John Fletcher, when she was "femme sole". She was sister of whole blood of John Hindman. Original deeds from Beverley to Hindman recorded in General Court, 17th April, 1745. Depositions by Margaret McCutchen, Jean Martin and Agness Harvey as to relationship between John Hindman and Eleanor Fletcher. Original deed Eleanor Fletcher to son, Job Fletcher, 1790, recorded Rockbridge. James Elliott says his father, William Elliott, is 93 years old, 12th July, 1792. John Erwin vs. Samuel Erwin--Rockingham, Slander. John Erwin deposeth, 15th August, 1793: In year 1776 plaintiff (Samuel Erwin) came to defendant's father's house and told defendant that himself and his brothers, Benjamin, Andrew, John and William Erwin, had come to agreement to value the land their father formerly possessed at £300, and that Samuel Erwin and his brothers, Benjamin and Andrew, had purchased the shares belonging to John and William Erwin. Deposition of Thomas Woodall, 25th March, 1797: John Erwin was a man of good character, but some persons spoke badly of him. Thomas is about to remove to Kentucky. Edward Erwin vs. Alexander Curry--Mary Curry, a witness in Pendleton County, deposes that a number of years ago her father, the present defendant, called on her uncles, viz: Benjamin, Samuel and Andy, to give their bonds for her grandmother's maintenance. Thomas Woodell deposes, 24th March, 1797: In April, 1795, defendant told Edward Erwin, son of plaintiff, &c. James Dillard, Jr., vs. Jonathan Kerns--Bond by Jonathan, of Rockbridge County, to James Dillard, Sr., of Amherst. £40, 17th February, 1794. 1796 Edward Erwin vs. William Stevenson--Libel, McPheeters vs. Donaldson--Alexander McPheeters, Jr., and Jane McPheeters are about to remove to Kentucky, 1795, 4th September. McPheeters vs. Moffett--Original deed, William McPheeters, Sr., to William McPheeters, Jr., 1755. Copy deed, Beverley, to William Vance, 23d July, 1740. Deposition of Margaret Brown, 25th August, 1798: She lived on the land in dispute 60 years ago. Memorandum, 1790-91. Memorandum for Mr. Williams. Enquire after Elliott Rutherford, executor to his brother, Thomas Rutherford, who died about 20 years ago. Spencer Hill married Mary Rutherford, daughter of Thomas Rutherford, deceased, and her fortune is in the hands of Elliott, who lives about one mile from Rockingham Courthouse. Joseph Borden, letter to Cosen Jacob Peck. Cuthbert Bullett's letter. Alexander Stuart's letter, 12th February, to Mr. John Wilson, Fayette County, Pennsylvania, says John is eldest son and heir of George Wilson, deceased, who sold a lot in Staunton to Mr. Mathew Reid. Part of purchase money is due which Archibald offers to pay upon making a deed. James Russell's letter, 24th March, 1791, brother of Joseph Russell. Edward Day's petition for help in support of his family, three children, one an idiot. Edward is old and infirm. 14th April, 1791. W. Erwin's letter to William Anderson, 17th March, 1791. William is brother of Samuel Anderson. Owen Owens' letter, 29th July, 1791, to James Lyle. APRIL, 1806 Peter R. Beverley vs. John Doake--Deposition of Thomas Mitchell. 14th October, 1805, aged 73, says: Samuel Doak lived on the land in dispute upwards of sixty years ago and John has lived on it ever since Sam's death. Deposition of Hugh Fulton, 14th October, 1805, aged 77, says: He was acquainted with Samuel, father of John. APRIL, 1801 James Brown vs. Thomas Sawyers--13th September, John Thompson and James Tomlinson intend shortly to decamp or emigrate from this State. Major Dowell, agent for Abraham Clemens, of the State of Pennsylvania, vs. Mathew Shaw--Ejectment APRIL, 1805 John Fletcher vs. Alexander Dunlap and Jane--Slander. From Rockbridge. Affidavit, 7th April, 1800, that John is an inhabitant of Kentucky APRIL, 1805 Thomas Edington & Agnes, who was widow of Jno. Oliver, vs. Benj. Thompson, Miles King, Robert Douthat. Bath Co. Wr. Dower. Erwin, Sam'l, Mary & Marg't, vs. Robert Reid--Forcible entry and det'n 240 acres on Middle River. Letter by Saml. Erwin dated 30 Nov., 1794 addressed to his brother David Erwin, Sullivan Co., Tenn. Depn. of Jane Patterson, 26 Mar., 1802, in Sullivan Co., Tenn. Ditto--Sarah and John Patterson--and Margt. Taylor (dau. of Sarah Patterson). SEPTEMBER, 1806 Commonwealth vs. Maj. Saml. Houston. Indict. for disturbing Public Worship by dragging Ann Henderson out of the Meeting on Sunday 4 Aug 1805 at Timber Ridge. Depn. of David Snyder 26 Mar 1806--Ann took the Jerks--she was exercised for some time when she rose up & began dancing. Maj. H____ took hold of her arm saying it would not do to dance in Meeting--Daniel Lyle prevented him--James Decker came to Houston's assistce. & she was removed to the shade of a tree. "Depositions show that Houston's action met the approval of the Congregation and of Mr. Blair the pastor." SEPTEMBER, 1798 John Brown vs. Saml. Mitchel, And. Wardlaw. 317 acres in Rockbridge. Survey Aug. 1, 1774 for George Moffett by James Trimble 328 acres. Deed by Borden to Charles Donely 11 Feby, 1741-2, 231 acres 1 R 32 P--part of 92100, on Mophet's Creek, cor. James Cook--ye Barrens. APRIL, 1800 Moore vs. Vernum--Deposition of James McCown at house of Col. Saml. McDowell in Fayette County, Kentucky, 15th May, 1798. Miles vs. Henry Brill--"I, Henry Brill, of Heidelburg Township, County of Lancaster, Penna., yeoman," bond to Miles, &c., 4th June, 1783. John Bright and others petition June, 1797, for a road from James Rowan's at Rockbridge line to the great road passing through Greenville, as it is cut off by Christopher Myers. Signed: John Bright, Jno. Schultz, Job Heoah, Hugh Alexander, Wm. Ritter, Neal O'Neal, Jno. Henry, James McFadden, John McFadden, David Shultz, Saml. Steele, Rob. Henry, Jno. Cunningham, James Steele, Andrew Purris. APRIL, 1803 John Scott vs. Valentine Miller--Rockbridge, hundred and twenty acres. Patent by Henry Lee to Peter Wiley 6th January, 1792, 120 acres adjoining Smith Williams and Jane Gilmore on Collier's Creek, corner to Valentine Millar. Deed 22nd February, 1771, John Kirkham of Botetourt to Richard Williams, 100 acres in Forks of James, corner James David, Smith Williams. Recorded in Botetourt: Deed, James Patton to Wm. Hall, recorded 20th November, 1752. Will, Henry Kirkham. Deed, 10th December, 1783, Richd. Williamson and Ann, of Rockbridge, to Smith Williamson of same county, 100 acres, corner Smith Williams; recorded in Rockbridge. Deed, 23d February, 1771, Jno. Kirkham, of Botetourt, to Richard Williams. Deed 2d November, 1791, Smith Williamson, of Wilks County, Georgia, to Thos. Scott, of Rockbridge, 116 acres on Collier's Creek, Whiteoaks, near the Ship Rock; recorded in Rockbridge. John Taylor, Archd. Taylor, James Taylor, Joseph Taylor, Jonathan Taylor, Wm. Taylor, Sarah Taylor, Francis Carter and Margaret, late Margt. Taylor, Saml. Twitchet and Catherine, late Catherine Taylor, Sylvenus Gibson and Elenor, late Elenor Taylor and Easter Taylor, devisees of James Waits, deceased, vs. John Huston--Writ of right, Rockingham. Two tracts, 150 acres in Rockingham; Jno. Stephenson's line, 20 acres, Stover's Mill Creek; James Downing's survey. Copy patent to John Stephenson, 400 acres on Orange (Augusta) County, on Stover's Mill Creek, of South River, Shenandore, 1st June, 1741. John Stephenson to Archd Huston, 18th May, 1773, recorded. John Stephenson's will, dated 13th October, 1777, probated in Rockingham 23d November, 1778; wife. Devisees, Jonathan Taylor and Easter Taylor, two of wife's children (infants). Daughter, Mary Huston, widow of Archd. Huston. Grandsons, Jno. Huston, Stephen Huston, George Huston and Nathan Huston. Grandchildren, Ann, Abigail, Sarah, Jane, Elizabeth and Archibald Huston (infants), daughter Mary Huston. Executors, Daniel Smith, Sr., and Felix Gilbert. Patent to James Waits, 1st September, 1782; 20 acres by survey, 18th December, 1751, on Stover's Mill Creek. James Waits' will, dated 9th October, 1771. Probated in Rockingham, 24th September, 1781. James Waits' will: Wife Catrine. John Taylor's children, they being the lawful issue of his wife Esther--Sarah and Catherine--to have more than others. CAUSES ENDED, NO. 1. Campbell vs. Donaghe--Bill in chancery. Hugh Donaghe's daughter married Robert Campbell, who moved to Western Tennessee. Wm. R. Coupland and wife Emily, of Lynchburg, County of Campbell, vs. Gustavus A. Rose, Hugh, Robert H., Samuel Rose, Landon Cabell and Judith (Rose), Spottswood Garland and Lucinda (Rose), Saml. Irwin and Ann (Rose), John, David, Isaac and Joshua Tinsley--Bill to set aside will of Caroline Matilda Rose, mother of all the Roses. APRIL, 1803 Armstrong vs. James Kelso--Defendant from Bath County. James Peevy is about to remove from this State, 31st December, 1801. Jennet Peevy, Sr. and Jr., are about to remove, 19th October, 1802. SEPTEMBER, 1802 Williams vs. Alexander--Original deed by Thomas Chew to Saml. Gay, 26th July, 1745. Letter to attorney by George Williams, late of the County of Augusta, but resident in County of Ross in Ohio. Original deed by Beverley to Danis Bryne, 23d July, 1740, 567 acres in Beverley Manor, corner Robt. Turk, corner Finley, Saml. Guy's line, George Home's corner. Original deed, 15th June, 1757. Saml. Givens and Martha to John Williams. SEPTEMBER, 1808 Rosanah Donnelly, infant, by father John Donelley, vs. John Christian-- Slander. Wm. Lyons is about to remove from Virginia, 17th August, 1808. APRIL, 1800 Edward Erwin vs. Wm. Curry--Trespass for diverting water. David Williams, Wm. Erwin and Joseph Curry live in Kentucky, 1st April, 1799. Deposition Wm. Erwin, Sr., 8th June, 1799, at the Courthouse of Lincoln County some years after the death of his uncle John Erwin. Ditto of Joseph Curry, 26th June, 1799, in Courthouse of Bourbon County, aged 51; in 1761 deponent came to Augusta from Ireland. Edward Erwin was his brother-in-law, present plaintiff. Wm. Curry, present defendant, is deponent's brother. Ditto of James Magill, Sr., 13th December, 1798. Aged 74 years. CIRCUIT COURT CAUSES ENDED James Heard vs. John Everitt--O. S. 9; N. S. 3--16th September, 1802 Bill filed. Henry Reed served as a private along with James Heard in Col. Lee's Legion during the Revolution. Heard was an officer. Goff vs. Fisher--O. S. 9; N. S. 3--Isaac Booth deposes March, 1803, in West Augusta, that John and Saliel Goff were the first to improve the land of Thomas Parsons on Cheat River, now generally known as Sim's Bottom & formerly called Cearl's bottom. James Goff, son of John Goff. John improved the land in 1773 & John & Saliel improved it in 1774. Robert Cunningham had a patent from Randolph. Robert formerly lived on the South Branch below the Gap & joined lands with his brother, William Cunningham, and married Prudence Parsons, sister to Thomas Parsons. William Parsons was son to Thomas. Witnesses speak of "South Branch" in Hardy County, just below the Gap, generally called the Gap of Sim's Creek. Robert Cunningham deposes Hardy Co. 4th October, 1800. He, 1770, lived in Horseshoe Bottom on Cheat River, where he made improvement on Big Yough, then called the Right Hand Fork, about one mile from Parson's cabin at the head of the Glades. He sold the land to Goff upwards of 20 years ago. McDonald vs. Turner--O. S. 11; N. S. 4--In 1794 when militia army was sent to quiet the insurrection in Western Pennsylvania, Angus McDonald was appointed paymaster to Col. Swearingen's Regt. & acted as such during the expedition. He passed a due bill to Lieut. Saml. Turner, who commanded the Company in the absence of Capt. Struther G. Suttle. Judgt. went against Angus in Frederick Co. Suttle only commanded the Co. after the troops returned to Winchester. Maj. Langham was brother-in-law of McDonald. James Olliver served in Capt. Suttles' Co. Henry Monger, Sr.; Michael Deck, and Susannah, his wife; late Susannah Monger; John Long and Barbara Long, infants and orphans of Elizabeth Long, deceased, late wife of Mathias Long, who was Elizabeth Monger; Martin Monger; Harman Aughe and Mary, his wife, late Mary Monger; John Monger; Henry Monger, Jr.; John Peter Fish and Margaret, his wife, late Margaret Monger, vs. David Monger; Charles Monger; William Monger, Martin Tofflemier and Eve, his wife; Leonard Crotzer and Mary, his wife--Bill filed 30th April, 1802--0. S. 12; N. S. 4--Henry Monger is one of the children of Henry Monger, late of Rockingham, and Susannah Martin, Mary, John Monger, Henry Monger, Jr., and Margaret are children and heirs of John Monger, deceased, late of said County, deceased, who was oldest son of Henry Monger, deceased. John and Barbara Long are the only children of Elizabeth, who was one of children of Jno. Monger. More than 22 years ago, Henry Monger, deceased, being then 66 years old, left Rockingham in company with Charles Monger and William Monger, two of his sons; and Martin Tofflemier and Eve, his wife; and Leonard Crotzer and Mary, his wife; Eve and Mary being two of Henry's daughters, and went to Kentucky. About ten months after, they were all taken by the Indians at Riddle's Station and carried prisoners to Detroit. Shortly after this, Henry died intestate. Answer denies that Henry was never heard of after his capture, because David had received two letters from him since his capture. Henry died about 14 years ago at Detroit, or near there. Henry married about five or six years before he went to Kentucky; he was a blacksmith; had lost use of one hand. Answer speaks of Henry being on his death bed in presence of his wife. Cross bill says Michael Deck is a quack lawyer and common barretor. Nixon vs. Nixon--O. S. 13; N. S. 5--Bill filed in Hampshire 14th March, 1794, by George Nixon, son of William Nixon, deceased, against George Nixon, son of George Nixon, deceased. Summons dated 12th December, 1793, to summon George Nixon, infant, by Francis White, his guardian. Many years ago, previous to marriage of orator's deceased father, with Hanna, mother of orator, George Nixon, father to William and grandfather to orator. George gave land to William on the Great Capecapon. Orator's grandmother died and then George (grandfather) made an unfortunate marriage by which he had several children, among them, defendant George, to whom he devised the land. Copy of will of George Nixon, of Hampshire County: Wife Rachel, son George, son Joseph, son William, grandsons George and Levi Nixon, granddaughter Rhoda Thomas, son Jonathan, daughter Elizabeth Webb, granddaughter Molly Nixon, daughter of Jonathan, (William, George and Joseph are infants), daughter Hannah, daughter Nancy; dated 15th February, 1793; proved 10th April, 1793. George gave the land to son William in 1768. Rees Pritchard says he was born in 1744. William Nixon (father of complainant) married Benjamin McDonald; Hannah Nixon was Hannah Park; Elizabeth Webb was daughter of George Nixon (grandfather) and wife of Benjamin); John Arnold was related to George, Sr., by marriage, <I>i. e.,</I> George Nixon's first wife was Arnold's sister; Arnold is 62 years 6th of last September, 1797. Riely vs. Ball--O. S. 14; N. S. 5--From Frederick. Cornelius Anderson deposes in Winchester, 14th March, 1801, that he is fifty-two (52) years old. Joseph Anderson, ditto, about fifty-five. Edward Ball, ditto, aged 30, is son of Jasper Ball. Thomas Kincade vs. Cunningham--O. S. 22; N. S. 8--Bill filed 30th April, 1802. Thomas, on 10th January, 1771, purchased of Jacob Persinger a tract in Greenbrier called the Spring Lick tract, which Persinger had brought of Christian Landers, who had made a settlement thereon. It was surveyed for the Greenbrier Company in 1751, 6th October. The bond was assigned to Walter Cunningham. Andrew Donnelly sued Thomas on the endorsement, charging fraud and obtaining judgment. Margaret Reid was aunt or near relative of Walter and lived in Augusta. Walter lives in Kentucky, Jessamine County. John and Robert Fulton in 1753 raised four acres of corn on the place now owned and lived on by Wm. Renick, and James Burnsides was living with them for the purpose of digging Ginsang. Boughman's fort was broken up by the Indians in 1754. Thomas Kincade had a son, William, who deposes. Col. Saml. Vance deposes, 10th February, 1803, that in 1765 he, with Jackson Early, was in Greenbrier hunting bears. Wm. McClenachan made an improvement there in 1763. Jacob Persinger was son of Jacob Persinger, Sr., deceased, 1803. Eve Johnston testifies she lived within a mile of Christian (Christopher) Lander in 1753-54 in Greenbrier. Andrew McDonald vs. Moore--O. S. 25; N. S. 9--From Berkeley. Bill filed August, 1782. Jacob Moore and James Moore (brothers) owned 675 acres on Middle Creek, granted by Fairfax, 18th November, 1752, and in 1755 they divided. Jacob was then an infant. In 1755 James sold to Mangus Tate. In 1762 Magnus and Mary, his wife, conveyed to orator. The lands were left to Jacob and James by their father's will, who died before Fairfax's deed. Letter of John Dixon dated Martinsburg, 2d September, 1799, says "Old McDonald in his life time entered into an agreement with George Lemon, who married his daughter, by which he conveyed all his right in the land to George." Copy of said agreement dated 6th September, 1798, between Andrew McDonald, Senr., and George Lemon. June 13, 1799, Andrew McDonald had died. The representatives are William, James, Andrew McDonald and Mary, who married George Lemon; granddaughter, Hester Price. McDonald vs. Morris--O. S. 25; N. S. 9--Frederick. George Rice's will was probated in the Winchester District Court. Watson vs. Caldwell--O. S. 30; N. S. 10--John Caldwell's will dated 17th November, 1785 and proved in the District Court held at Prince Edward Court House, 4th September, 1793. Leaves all estate to his son, David Caldwell. John lived with David from 1766 until he died in August, 1789, aged 94 years and 6 months. James Simral and John Donaldson of Frederick vs. Moore--O. S. 40; N. S. 14--Bill September, 1793. In 1771 and 1772, James resided in Chester County, Penn., and shortly afterwards he removed with his family to Frederick County. John Cooper, aged fifty-five (55) (living in Westmoreland County, Penna.) deposed 7th May, 1795, that in 1771 he was at house of James Simrall in Sadsbury Township, County Chester, Penna. Frances Meem, aged 25, deposes in Frederick, 11th May, 1795. William Ferguson Simrall deposes in Fredk. 11th May, 1795, aged 18. John Strother and Joseph Thompson vs. John Oliver's heirs--O. S. 40; N. S. 14--Bill filed 25th August, 1803. On ____ plaintiffs had a tract surveyed in Falling Spring Valley and shortly afterwards John Strother went to Georgia . John Oliver, now deceased, was agent for the heirs of Col. Bullet. There had been surveys for Jeremiah Seeley, who had assigned them to Francis McAndrew, who by common report, died in our army during the Revolution, leaving a will. He disappeared and has never been heard from since. Power of attorney, 8th August, 1781, by Francis McAndrew to John Dickinson to collect his debts, &c., in case he does not return from his tower of duty. Deed 10th July, 1792, John Oliver to William Bonner, recorded in Bath, July, 1792. Jeremiah Seeley's survey was dated 1773. Francis McAndrew died before peace between U. S. and England. Adam Kimberland, Senr., is about to remove from State, 5th October, 1803. Joel Walker, ditto, 5th July, 1803. Heirs of John Oliver are Thomas Oliver and ____ his wife, late ____. Wm. Oliver, heir of Joseph Oliver, deceased, representatives of John Oliver, deceased, and Thomas Edington and Agnes, his wife, late widow of John Oliver. John Lefevre vs. John Sowers--O. S. 40; N. S. 14--Appeal. Bill filed by Sowers vs. Lefevre in Frederick County, 7th November, 1795. James Knight of Frederick died 1787, testate (copy of will follows) to widow Jane, now deceased, for life, then to Samuel Jack, John Lefevre and John Sowers. William Knight was brother to James Knight. Widow Jane died 1794. James Knight's will dated 10th August, 1786. Proved in Frederick, 4th September, 1787. Wife Jean; son-in-law John Sowers; grandson William Dedderick; (beloved sons) Samuel Jack, John Sowers and John Lefevre. Agreement between Saml. Jack of Richmond County, Georgia, legatee of James Knight and John Sowers, dated 7th October, 1788. Deposition of Colonel Samuel Jack in Richmond County, Georgia, 1st September, 1797. George Michael Deadrick deposes in Davidson County, Tenn., 31st March, 1800. John Lefevre's wife was Elizabeth, daughter of James Knight. George Michael was brother to David Deadrick, who was father of William H. Deadrick mentioned in will above. John Miller and John Cartmill vs. Hogg--O. S. 42; N. S. 14--Bill 12th May, 1804. James Hogg was eldest son and heir of Peter Hogg. Peter Hogg and ____ Bullett were joint owners of a large tract in Kenawha (formerly Greenbrier) called the Pocotalico tract. Peter died before 1787 intestate as to this tract. Copy of Peter Hog's will dated 5th October, 1773, codicil dated 10th November, 1777, proved in Rockingham 22d April, 1782. Loving wife, Elizabeth. Son James, 5,000 acres on the Ohio, part of 9,000 acres, this day conveyed to Gabriel Jones in trust for his children. Son Peter, 4,000 acres, part of above 9,000. Daughters Ann and Elizabeth. Sons to be sent to Edinborough under care of Peter's brother, Walter Hog, for education. Peter's father was James Hog of Edinborough. Codicil states that another son, Thomas, has been born. Mentions order of Council dated ____, 1773, for 3,100 acres allotted to Peter under Dinwiddie's proclamation; also 237 acres which Gen. Washington allowed Peter for the share of Duncan Furguson, his servant, enlisted as a drummer in his Company of the 1st Va. Regt. Sons are all infants at date of codicil. In 1786-1787 John Miller kept a store at Lewisburg. Thomas Christian vs. Wray--O. S. 54; N. S. 18--Bill, 23d July, 1803. Joseph Wray obtained a certificate by settlement right in Washington County (afterwards Russell), now Tazewell County. Joseph died intestate, leaving his son John Wray heir-at-law, who sold to orator. In 1799 John Wray lived in Kentucky. Joseph's widow deposes in Madison County, Ky. The land was on Clinch River called Indian Crick. John Ray deposes in Clermont County Ohio, where he then resided 18th February, 1806. Deed 26th September, 1794 by John Wray to Thomas Christian of Sumner County, territory south of the Ohio. William Lockhart deposes in Tazewell County 28th September, 1805; aged 27 years. Richard Oney deposes in Tazewell County 28th September, 1805; aged 50 years. John Hawkins deposes in Tazewell County, 28th September, 1805; aged 65 years. John Deskins deposes in Tazewell County 28th September, 1805; aged 31 years. James Brown deposes in Tazewell County 28th September, 1805; aged 50 years. Lawrence Murray deposes in Tazewell County 28th September, 1805; aged 53 years. Oliver Wynne deposes in Tazewell County 28th September, 1805; aged 36 years. Jane Davis vs. Rogers <I>et als.</I>--O. S. 56; N. S. 19. Jane is daughter of Archibald Clendennin who was killed by Indians in Greenbrier in 1763 with all his children except oratrix. Before his death he purchased the settlement right of George Lee. Archibald's widow Ann married John Rogers Jane is widow of ____ Davis. They were married before 25th March, 1775. John Rogers had sons Archibald and James Rodgers. Davis died in 1800. Bill filed July, 1803. John Rogers says he married widow of Archibald Clendennin in 1767. In 1772 he moved to Greenbrier. Davis and Jane married in 1774. Jas. Huston deposes he was brother-in-law to George Wilson, who claimed the tract before Clendennin. Donelly was also brother-in-law to Geo. Wilson. George Lee deposes, 1803, in Hardy County that in 1762 he held a settlement right to the land sold to George Wilson. Andrew Donnelly, Sr., deposes in Kenawha 1805. James Burnsides, Sr., deposes in Monroe County 1804. Clendennin was killed in 15th July, 1763. John Ewing of Gallia County, Ohio, deposes. Jane was married after Archibald's mother. She was born January or February, 1758. On 15th July, 1763, Jane and deponent (John Ewing) were taken prisoner by Indians and carried away. They were kept in the same nation, but not together, except on their journey to Pittsburg, where they were liberated 14th May, 1765. John Ewing was 76 years old when he was taken prisoner. James Calfee vs. Carter--O. S. 97; N. S. 33--Bill, 1805. Orator, James Calfee, is nephew of William Calfee, died 1801, very aged and without children. Orator and his brother William, now deceased, took care of him. He died April, 1801, testate, devising all his real estate to his wife, Mary. In 1805 Mary, aged 74, married George Carter. There is also a bill by James Calfee and William Calfee, executors of William Calfee, Jr., deceased. William, Jr., deceased, was nephew of William Calfee, Sr., late of Wythe County, who died 1801. Mary Carter answers she had made her will devising her estate to said James and William, John Hurst of Kentucky, and a niece, Miss Mary Carson, of Shenandoah. William Calfee's will, of Wythe County, dated 10th August, 1795. Wife, Mary; nephews, William and James Calfee, sons of his brother, John Calfee and Sarah, his wife. Proved in Wythe County 9th June, 1801. William Calfee's will of Wythe County, dated 16th September, 1801. Wife, Mary; devisees, John and Samuel Calfee; son, William; son, James; uncle, William; brother, James; daughter, Nancy Calfee; daughter, Elizabeth. Proved in Wythe County, 13th October, 1801. John Hurst was William Calfee, Sr.'s, nephew. Salvage vs. McDonald--O. S. 126; N. S. 44--Bill, 1804. Copy of mortgage dated 1st September, 1801, by John McDonald and Ann McDonald of Frederick to William Savage. Tract devised to grantors by Angus McDonald in 1775. Recorded in Superior Court for Frederick, Berkeley, &c., 29th September, 3d October, 1801. Maxwell vs. Pickens, &c.--O. S. 129; N. S. 45--Bill, 1807. Orator is James Maxwell of Tazewell County. In 1772 orator went from Botetourt, where he lived, to present Tazewell County to make a settlement. It was then a wilderness. He was in company with Samuel Walker. Found a tract with some improvements, viz: The foundation of a cabin, some rails split and some trees deadened. That night they fell in with a party of hunters, among them Uriah Stone, who claimed to have made the improvement, and orator purchased it, and the same year moved his family there and lived until 1784. In that time two of his daughters were killed by the Indians. William Ingles set up claim to the land and devised it to his daughter Rhoda, who married Bird Smith. Thomas Peery deposes in Tazewell County in 1809, that in 1772, when deponent went to that country, James Maxwell had made improvements on the lands and had corn growing in May. In 1781 or '82 Indians murdered two of Maxwell's daughters and Maxwell removed his family. James Peery deposes that he went to Tazewell with Major Maxwell. John Peery deposes that John Tollett moved from Georgia to New River. Thomas Witten deposes that he was on the land in 1771. Samuel Walker is about to remove out of the country and William Wynne is aged and infirm in 1807. Mathias Harman deposes, 1809 that when he first came to this country the land in dispute was called Ingles's Crabb orchard and there was an old improvement on it. This was in 1760. Henry Marrs deposes that he first knew Maxwell on the land in 1773 or 1774. About three weeks after murder of Maxwell's daughters, two of Robert Moffitt's sons were taken prisoners by Indians, and about a week after that the family of Capt. Thomas Inglis was taken out of Burk's Garden by Indians and depredations were committed until 1793. Daniel Harman, Sr., deposes 22d June, 1809, that about 49 years ago he was on a hunting expedition and camped on the land in dispute and took shelter in a small cabin built there, said to be Inglis's. Col. Inglis did not himself make the settlement, but it was made by his uncle, John Inglis. Joseph Hix deposes as above, that 44 years ago Col. Wm. Inglis told him that the land was his and he claimed it under his uncle, John Ingles. Lawrence Murry deposes as above, that 33 years ago he was in Wright's Valley at Uriah Stone's cabin. William Cecil deposes as above, that in or about 1771 he, in company with his brother and father, was on the disputed land. Deed dated 24th September, 1805, by John Tollett and Margaret of Tazewell County to Thomas Pickens: 200 acres by survey in 1753 part of Loyal Company's grant. Recorded in Tazewell, 24th September, 1805. Edward Ball vs. Jasper Ball's heirs--O. S. 131; N. S. 45--Bill, March, 1808. From Frederick. In August, 1802, Jasper Ball, orator's father, conveyed to orator certain lands in Frederick in consideration that orator should support him for life; another portion he directed to be laid off for orator's brother, William Ball, since deceased. Jasper died intestate (leaving children, viz: Orator, Sarah Conner, wife of Samuel Conner; Elizabeth wife of George Smith; Catherine, wife of William Foley, and Jasper Ball, infant, the only child of William Ball, deceased, who was son of Jasper, deceased. Robert Cunningham's administrator (Abraham Shobe), and Mark Grimes, vs. George Rennick--O. S. 133; N. S. 46--Bill, June, 1806. >From Hardy County. Robert Cunningham died testate, devising the land to his daughter, Nancy Cunningham, who married Mark Grimes. Appointed Isaac Cunningham an executor, who had since moved to Kentucky. James Cunningham vs. Jonathan Purcell--O. S. 133; N. S. 46--From Hampshire. John Decker deposes in Romney, 1806, that in 1750 he was born on the place in controversy. Peter Hull deposes, 1809, that Catharine, wife of Jonathan Purcell, had been dead over 6 years. Deed, 17th March, 1810, by Jonathan Purcell of Knox County, Indiana Territory, to James Cunningham of Hardy County: 210 acres on So. Branch. Recorded in Hampshire, 19th March, 1810. Deed 4th April, 1797, by Jonathan Purcell and Catharine of Hampshire to James Cunningham of Hampshire. Tract conveyed, 1772, by Fairfax to Charles Friend and conveyed to Jonathan by Gabriel Friend and Jane, his wife, by deed dated 10th March, 1796, having descended to Gabriel as heir-at-law to Charles. Recorded in Hampshire, 17th April, 1797. Deed 4th April, 1797, same parties to same parties. Deed 17th February, 1804, by Jonathan Purcell of Knox County, Indiana, to James Cunningham, Sr., of Hardy, conveys 291 acres in Hampshire, also 113 acres adjoining, also 400 acres. Proved in Hampshire, 16th April, 1804. Deed 17th February, 1804, by Henry Kuydendall of Ross County, Ohio, to Jonathan Purcell of Knox County, Indiana, 291 acres in Hampshire, also 113 acres, also 400 acres. Acknowledged in Jefferson County, Ky.; recorded in Hampshire, 16th April, 1804. Deed 17th February, 1804, by Moses Kuykendall, heir-at-law of Benjamin Kuykendall, and executor of his will, and Henry Kuykendall, son and executor of Henry Kuykendall of Bourbon County, Ky., 291 acres in Hampshire. Henry Kuykendall, Sr., deceased, was son of John Kuykendall. Acknowledged by Moses in Jefferson County, Ky.; recorded in Hampshire, 17th April, 1804. Deed 19th October, 1807, by Jonathan Purcell of Knox County, Indiana, to James Cunningham, Sr., of Hardy. Recorded in Hampshire, 19th October, 1807. Deed 8th September, 1807, by Henry Kuydenkall of Ross County, Ohio, and Betsey, his wife, to Jonathan Purcell of Knox County, Indiana. Recorded in Hampshire, 19th October, 1807. Deed 3d August, 1807, by Moses Kuykendall of Jefferson County, Ky., and Henry Kuykendall of Ross County, Ohio. Recorded in Hampshire, 19th October, 1807. Deed 19th October, 1807, Jonathan Purcell of Knox County, Indiana, to James Cunningham, Sr. Recorded in Hampshire, 19th October, 1807. Lamon vs. McDonald--O. S. 143; N. S. 49--Bill October, 1800. Complainants are, viz: George Lamon and Mary, his wife, late McDonald, daughter and co-heiress of Andrew McDonald, late of Berkeley County. Andrew died testate in 1799, leaving 3 sons, James, William and Andrew; a surviving daughter (oratrix), and a granddaughter named Hester Price; widow Hester. Andrew McDonald's will of Berkeley County. Wife Hestor; sons, William, James, Andrew; granddaughter, Hester Price; son-in-law, George Lemon. Dated 7th March, 1799. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Sorry, I forgot to post this yesterday...... 1789--March 13, Thomas Crow, Jr., and Nancy Donally, daughter Charles Donally (consent), Mary Donally (consent); witnesses, Jno. Wayt, Stephen Smith; surety, Alexander Lewis. 1789--September 2, Robert Christian and Mary Huston, daughter of Wm. Huston (consent); witnesses, G. Christian, Jr., Frances Long; surety, Gilbert Christian. 1789--December 1, John Caldwell and Fanny Davis; surety, Zachariah Estill. 1790--November 13, John Keller and Nelly Matheny, widow, surety, Jacob Faulkner. Certificate that Jno. Keller is a free person and has no relation in this State. 1789--August 12, William McKee and Rebeca Erwin, orphan, granddaughter of Jane Erwin (consent); witnesses Ro. Grattan, Mary Erwin; surety, John Young. 1792--September 6, Wm. Donaldson and Barbara Walker, ward of Elizabeth Walker (consent); witnesses, Robert and John Reed, Hugh and Elizabeth Donaghe, Wm. McMahon; surety, Robert Reed. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Payne, Did you happen to notice the given name, Charles, all over that DONELLY, McDONALD and other DANIEL related information from Upper Neck and Augusta County, VA which I posted, yesterday? I am still trying to figure out who this DONELLY bunch was but I know they are all over the LEWIS, CAMPBELL and CROW families of that area, a lot of which later migrated into the OH territory. From what I do know, this bunch migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to Botetourt County, VA, later Augusta County, VA. I would almost bet this DONELLY, or O'DONALD as they are sometimes referred to in these civil records, came with them, before or after. This DONELLY, O'DONALD or McDONALD family I think had links to the Lancaster County, PA area or had ties to that area. I also think there is a good possibility they were probably tied in some way to that BOONES and BRYAN bunch from that same general area. The reason I ask about the name, Charles, is Charles is not a given name in any of the families I know which later migrated into Greene and Wilkes County, GA. I cannot say these families in Augusta County, VA are around the CUNNINGHAMS of that area but they sure were in the same general area, at one point, and we know that bunch later migrated south into VA from PA. I want to see that will of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, that confirms the Charles DANIEL (1773-1803) who married Elizabeth COFFEE, was a son of Thomas DANIEL and Sarah BURNEY of Greene County, GA if someone has it. The given name, Charles, just does not fit this family nor does a link to the COFFEES. The reason I say it does not fit is -- (1) These VA families tended to marry only into what were, once, VA families (2) These families married all over each other -- cousins married cousins. For Peter COFFEE to let his daughter break with tradition and marry into a NC family does not match their profile at all, unless Thomas DANIEL was out of this same DANIEL line that came south with them and the CUNNINHJAMS from VA....... If the latter, then I think Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA was really married to a Sarah RANDLE, something that others have reported because the RANDLE name is all over this bunch, later. If later, then possibly, earlier, too........ For what it is worth, I think the COFFEE/COFFEY family followed the CUNNINGHAMS from Ireland to PA, then to PE County, VA and finally to Wilkes and Greene County, GA. The HEARDS and even the FITZPATRICKS may have been a part of this group, too. <<<< IE: Page 25.--26th February, 1762. Francis Tyler to Israel Christian, £40, a negro slave Hanna. Teste: W. Christian, Charles Donelly. Page 305.--22d June, 1763. Daniel Harrison and Sarah to James Green, £9, 100 acres in north fork of Linwell's Creek. Teste: James Gamwill, Charles Donnelly. Page 289.--18th March, 1768. George Wilson and Elizabeth, of Hampshire, to Charles Donnelly, £90, 234 acres by patent 10th August, 1759, on Stewart's Creek above. Delivered to Charles Donnelly, March, 1778. MARCH 18, 1768 (521) Commission ordered to privily examine Elizabeth, wife of George Wilson, to deed to Charles Donnelly Page 106.--17th May, 1768. James Hugart's estate appraisement, by James McCoy, Charles Donnerley, John Cartmill, recorded. MARCH 25, 1769 (125) Charles Donnerly and John McCreery appointed surveyors of road from Capt. Charles Lewis's to, the Fork of Dickinson's Road. Page 219.--24th February, 1770. Patrick Davis and Esther to James Millican, £30, 44 acres by patent dated 10th September, 1767, on Cowpasture River. Teste: Charles Lewis, Charles and Andrew Donnelly. Delivered: Andrew Donnelly, December, 1775. AUGUST 20, 1772 (409) Charles Lewis qualified Lieutenant Colonel of County. (411) Charles O'Donald, aged 17, orphan of Michael O'Donald, chose Thomas Stuart guardian. Page 9.--20th August, 1772. Thomas Stewart's bond (with George Mathews, David Henderson) as guardian to Charles O'Donald, orphan of Michael O'Donald. Page 182.--4th December, 1772. William Sitlington's estate appraised by Charles Donelly, Ralph Laverty, William Reach--1 servant man appraised to Dorby Dedy, £18.00.0; 1 servant man. named Joseph, appraised to Blackhouse £15.10.0; 1 servant man, named Augustine Picket, £14.00.0; 1 servant man, named Richard, appraised to Edwards, £14.00.0; 1 servant woman appraised to £12.00.0. Page 208.--8th October, 1781. Elizabeth (mark) dark's will--To daughter, Jean Elliot's heirs; to well beloved Elizabeth Breath (Reath, Reoth?); to daughter, Sarah Elliot; to daughter, Anne Dounlap; to daughter, Margret Clenkaid; to son, John Gridle; to son, James; to son, Alexander and to Alexander's wife; to four daughters; to son, Samuel; to son, William's heirs; to son, Robert. Executors, son Robert Clark and William Reaoh. Teste: Charles Donally, James McCleerey, Robt. Patterson, Geo. Berry. Proved, 20th November, 1781, by McCleerey and Berry. Robert Clark qualifies. Page 383.--25th October, 1781. Jane McCoy, of Greenbrier, widow and sole executrix of James McCoy, to Andrew and Charles Donnerley, patented 10th August, 1759, to said James on Stewart's Creek. Teste: Hugh Brown, Andrew Sitlington, Nathan Crawford. Page 308.--16th June, 1783. Mary (mark) Donnelly relinquishes her right to administration on her husband's, Charles Donnelly's, estate and nominates Andrew Donnelly, of Greenbrier, and her son, Andrew Donnelly. Teste: James Bleake, William (mark) Gillespey. Page 308.--15th February, 1779. Charles Donnelly's will (of Cow Pasture)--To wife, Mary; to daughters, Jean Bleake, Mary Brown; to other four children, viz: Andrew, Charles, Ann, Catherine; to sons, Andrew and Charles Donnally, Jr. Executrix, Mary and Col. Andrew Donnally and son Andrew. Teste: James Bleke, John Gay, Wm. (mark) Gillespy. Proved, 17th June, 1783, by Blake and Gillespy. Gay is since dead. The two Andrews qualify. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:55 PM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Family Puzzler > Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I told > you so" will be appreciated. Payne > > The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to William > Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the possibility > that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and Sarah > Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the Peter Daniel > who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of Charles and > Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann Mayfield and > Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? > > Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David Daniel and > Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. There > are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the Daniels > of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist Meeting > House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made > applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? > > Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters sharing that > distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? > > Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: 1740 in, > Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in Cumberland, > Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North Carolina > Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 MAR 1981 > in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North Carolina. 2. > John T. DANIEL b: 1819 in Tennessee. > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > >

Afternoon John and all, I have a puzzler. Even an "I think" or an "I told you so" will be appreciated. Payne The Peter Daniel who married Sarah/Sally Lofton has been assigned to William Daniel and Martha Field Allen Daniel. This assignment and the possibility that he was Peter Mickelborough Daniel the son of Charles Daniel and Sarah Tate is questionable. Even though PMD has the same stats as the Peter Daniel who was the s/o William and Martha, the Peter who was the son of Charles and Sarah was not the same individual. That Peter married Jane Ann Mayfield and Elizabeth Piner. Does all of this sound familiar : ) ? Now another scenerio. The Peter Daniel who was the son of David Daniel and Margaret Lynch was most likley the Peter who married Sally Lofton. There are many collateral ties between the Loftins and the Lynchs and the Daniels of Davidson County to support this connection. Ref: Jersey Baptist Meeting House Records in Davidson County where Peter, Charity and Mary made applications in 1802. Had to be the son of David? Which Peter married Sally Lofton? We have at least two Peters sharing that distinction and both can't have the same date of birth, but they do? Peter Daniel (Is this fact or fiction) Father: William DANIEL b: 1740 in, Cumberland, Virginia - Mother: Pattie ALLEN b: Abt 1746 in Cumberland, Virginia - Marriage 1 Sarah LOFTON b: 1786 in, Montgomery, North Carolina Married: 28 MAR 1803 in Rowan, North Carolina - Sealing Spouse: 13 MAR 1981 in OGDEN Children: 1. Drury DANIEL b: Abt 1809 in Rowan, North Carolina. 2. John T. DANIEL b: 1819 in Tennessee.

Maj. H.K. DANIEL of Sumter co., Ga., died 9th Sept. 1870, in the 33d year of his age. He was graduate of the Oglethorpe University of Georgia Source: Georgia edition of the Southern Christian Advocate. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

This McDANIEL Mailing List post may be of interest to some. It includes the name, Aaron, and LASSITER. This George McDANIEL was probably out of one of the Upper Neck, VA or Southern PA MCDONALD families who migrated westward into KY and then across the Ohio River into Southern IL in the post 1820 time frame. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mlp213@aol.com> To: <MCDANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [McDANIEL] Virtual Genealogical Gift Exchange > I have George McDaniel (b. 1756) who ended up in Southern IL. His son was > Aaron McDaniel and his daughter was Susan Arvilla McDaniel who married Jonathan > Wellington Lasater. > All from around Norris, Broughton and Carmi, IL > > Margaret Lasater Prince > > > ==== MCDANIEL Mailing List ==== > We have a McDANIEL bulletin board at Rootsweb/Ancestry, for those of you who want to put out a flag, for other researchers to see who are not subscribed to the McDANIEL Mailing List > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >