Payne, Number one. Owen is never found as a given name in the families of Thomas DANIEL or Simon DANIEL, Owen's supposed sons, yet their names, Simon and Thomas, flow like water in their families. Number two. It is rare if not improbable to find a family, as documented as these two DANIEL families are, that does not have the name of their primary ancestor, in this case, Owen, included in their family, somewhere. Yet, we never see it again in the first of second generations of these families. Number three. I cannot think of a family in which the name of the primary ancestor does not flow down through the family like water, especially in that time frame. It sure does it in every family I am familiar with. Its use may skip a generation, here an there, but it usually repeats, later. That, contrary to any information you may have, indicates to me there is a high probability that Owen DANIEL not the father of Thomas and Simon, unless his name was held in such ill repute in the family they never wanted to see it mentioned again. I also cannot accept that Simon DANIEL born 1678 did not know the name of his father who died when he was 22 or even Thomas who was 14 when Owen died in 1700. None of this makes sense and flies in the face of both traditions of the time and common sense. As for the mention of Owen O'DANIEL, I have no other information on him than what I listed in the previous post. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > I never worried about Owens's name and a Owen O'Daniel from Duplin being the > name sake. Historically, Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct, is Owen Daniel. He > is mentioned at the end of the Will of Ann Daniel in the following > statement: ("I find of record in the Virginia Land Registry, Book No. 8, > page 428, a grant of130 acres in the Counties of Isle of Wight and > "Nanzimond," Va., to Owen Daniell in 1695" > > So John, how does the Owen O'Daniel of Duplin have anything historically to > do with Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct of Albemarle County, North Carolina? > > Payne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:12 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > > > > We have never been able to figure out where the name, Owen DANIEL, > > supposedly the father of Thomas DANIEL and Simon DANIEL, came from. This > > may be a clue... > > > > <<< > > Bk 1A p. 99 STEPHEN BARFIELD to WILLIAM O'DANIEL, both of Duplin Co., 7 > > July 1783, > > line belonging to a survey granted to JESSE BARFIELD by patent dated 1770. > > Wit: OWEN O'DANIEL, FREDERICK BARFIELD. Oct. Ct. 1784. > > > > Bk 1A p. 95 JONATHAN TAYLOR to BENJAMIN HERRING, both of Duplin Co.. 14 > > Oct 1783, patented by sd. TAYLOR 4 May 1769. > > Wit: WILLIAM O'DANIEL, CHARITY HERRING. Oct.ct. 1784. > > > > Bk 4A p. 167 BENJAMIN HERRING SR. to his son BENJAMIN HERRING JR., 2 Nov > > 1808, for "natural love & affection" 229A in 2 pieces to wit: (1) 227A on > > the West of Herring Branch, beg. at a gum & joining CREECH; (2) 2A joining > > the lower corner of the afsd. land on the ES of sd, branch, the 2A for > > privilege for a mill. > > Wit: ALEX O'DANIEL, BENJN. ( X) CREECH. Jan. Ct. 1810. > > > > Bk 4A p. 408 WILLIAM GLISSON to JOHN BLIZARD, both of Duplin Co., 17 Sep > > 1812. > > Wit: HENRY GRADY, ALEX. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > > > Bk 4A p. 409 STEPHEN GUFFORD to JOHN BLIZARD. both of Duplin Co., 3 Mar > > 1810, for > > 172 pds. 10 shill. 120A on the NS of Goshen Swamp, being part of 3 > patents, > > patented > > by JACOB LAWHAUN, WILLIAM GODWIN & JACOB GLISSON, beg. at a water oak > > ALEXANDER O'DANIEL'S corner near the corner of BLIZARD'S field, to a black > > jack not far from STEPHEN GUFFORD'S house & adj. LEWIS GLISSON & GEORGE > F. > > KORNEGAY. > > Wit: WILLIAM KORNEGAY, AL. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net >

Good Morning, Yes, there are HINES and TYSON connections. In fact, the first TYSON I carry was married to a HINES. John TYSON (1723-1787) in Pitt County, NC married a Bethany HINES (1725-1792), both died in Pitt County, NC. I do not have any more information on them but the name, Bethany, is a given name in my LANE family of Greene County, NC - Bethany LANE married Isaac PARKER BEF 1800 in Greene or Wayne County, NC. It seems this whole bunch had links between Edgecombe, Wayne, Greene, Pitt, Dobbs, Beaufort and Craven County, NC and I cannot seem to separate them, but it seems that Edgecombe families moved to Greene and Wayne more so than from Pitt County, NC but that is just a guess on my part. This is a list of their children that I have for them but do not know how accurate it is. : Children: i. Sabra 'Susanna' TYSON b: in Pitt County, North Carolina ii. John TYSON , Jr b: in North Carolina iii. Jacob TYSON b: 1743 in Pitt County, North Carolina iv. Samuel TYSON, Sr. (1744-1771) - married Elizabeth MAY, d/o John MAY and Mary STAFFORD of Pitt. Elizabeth later married Josiah DANIEL, son of T&E v. Job TYSON b: 1747 in Pitt County, North Carolina vi. Jehu TYSON b: 1750 in Pitt Co. N. Carolina - married Mildred MOYE, d/o George MOYE, Jr. and Elizabeth GARDNER of Pitt County, NC. vii. Frederick TYSON b: 1754 in Pitt County, North Carolina - d. Washington County, GA viii. Mason Briget TYSON b: 1757 ix. Thomas TYSON b: 1757 <<< 1791 Deed in Pitty County, NC Deed Book O, page 121-123: "Know all men by these presents that I, Bethany Tison, widow, for and in consideration of the good will and affection I bear to my grandson Write Tison do give him a certain negro girl named Edy which negroe for my self heirs Excters Administators do warrant to him the said Write Tison and in case Write Tison should dye without heirs my will & desire is that a certain Mason to said Write Tison shorde have said Negro. He and his heirs For Ever in witness whereof I have set my hand and seal this 23 day of February 1792 here. Bethany "X" Tyson in presents of mark George Moye Sarah Joyner Pitt County January Term 1798. This deed of gift was exhibited into court & proved by the oath of George Moye a Witness thereto let it be Registered. George Evans CLK John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Eaglekkt@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] 1795 Deed, Alexander DANIEL of Duplin County, NC > do you know if these's a connection between lewis hines and elizabeth > hines/hinds,daniel? littleton's wife. thanks kathy > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not allowed on this list. >

do you know if these's a connection between lewis hines and elizabeth hines/hinds,daniel? littleton's wife. thanks kathy

I never worried about Owens's name and a Owen O'Daniel from Duplin being the name sake. Historically, Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct, is Owen Daniel. He is mentioned at the end of the Will of Ann Daniel in the following statement: ("I find of record in the Virginia Land Registry, Book No. 8, page 428, a grant of130 acres in the Counties of Isle of Wight and "Nanzimond," Va., to Owen Daniell in 1695" So John, how does the Owen O'Daniel of Duplin have anything historically to do with Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct of Albemarle County, North Carolina? Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:12 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > We have never been able to figure out where the name, Owen DANIEL, > supposedly the father of Thomas DANIEL and Simon DANIEL, came from. This > may be a clue... > > <<< > Bk 1A p. 99 STEPHEN BARFIELD to WILLIAM O'DANIEL, both of Duplin Co., 7 > July 1783, > line belonging to a survey granted to JESSE BARFIELD by patent dated 1770. > Wit: OWEN O'DANIEL, FREDERICK BARFIELD. Oct. Ct. 1784. > > Bk 1A p. 95 JONATHAN TAYLOR to BENJAMIN HERRING, both of Duplin Co.. 14 > Oct 1783, patented by sd. TAYLOR 4 May 1769. > Wit: WILLIAM O'DANIEL, CHARITY HERRING. Oct.ct. 1784. > > Bk 4A p. 167 BENJAMIN HERRING SR. to his son BENJAMIN HERRING JR., 2 Nov > 1808, for "natural love & affection" 229A in 2 pieces to wit: (1) 227A on > the West of Herring Branch, beg. at a gum & joining CREECH; (2) 2A joining > the lower corner of the afsd. land on the ES of sd, branch, the 2A for > privilege for a mill. > Wit: ALEX O'DANIEL, BENJN. ( X) CREECH. Jan. Ct. 1810. > > Bk 4A p. 408 WILLIAM GLISSON to JOHN BLIZARD, both of Duplin Co., 17 Sep > 1812. > Wit: HENRY GRADY, ALEX. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > Bk 4A p. 409 STEPHEN GUFFORD to JOHN BLIZARD. both of Duplin Co., 3 Mar > 1810, for > 172 pds. 10 shill. 120A on the NS of Goshen Swamp, being part of 3 patents, > patented > by JACOB LAWHAUN, WILLIAM GODWIN & JACOB GLISSON, beg. at a water oak > ALEXANDER O'DANIEL'S corner near the corner of BLIZARD'S field, to a black > jack not far from STEPHEN GUFFORD'S house & adj. LEWIS GLISSON & GEORGE F. > KORNEGAY. > Wit: WILLIAM KORNEGAY, AL. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > > > > >>> > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > >

Well, we finally know where Jeptha DANIEL was from -- Duplin County, NC, He later moved to Richmond County, GA. <<< Duplin County, NC book 3A 349 (and Timothy Spence) Jephtha (X) Daniel to Isaac Spence, both planters of Duplin Co., 26 Nov 1795, for 100 pds. current money 100A on the NS of Goshen Swamp & incl. part of the place called the Lake Land, beg. at a white oak, the beg. of John Sheffield's land near Pompey's Pocosin & running a direct line to the center of 3 pines, marked formerly Weston Prairses (sic) corner, to Hart's line, to a pine the beg. of the land John Hart sold to Jesse Cook & which the sd. Spence now lives on, being half of a patent granted to Jesse Barfield 1 Apr 1780 & conveyed through several hands unto sd. Daniel. Wit: Stephen Jones, Timothy Spence. July Ct. 1796. >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

We have never been able to figure out where the name, Owen DANIEL, supposedly the father of Thomas DANIEL and Simon DANIEL, came from. This may be a clue... <<< Bk 1A p. 99 STEPHEN BARFIELD to WILLIAM O'DANIEL, both of Duplin Co., 7 July 1783, line belonging to a survey granted to JESSE BARFIELD by patent dated 1770. Wit: OWEN O'DANIEL, FREDERICK BARFIELD. Oct. Ct. 1784. Bk 1A p. 95 JONATHAN TAYLOR to BENJAMIN HERRING, both of Duplin Co.. 14 Oct 1783, patented by sd. TAYLOR 4 May 1769. Wit: WILLIAM O'DANIEL, CHARITY HERRING. Oct.ct. 1784. Bk 4A p. 167 BENJAMIN HERRING SR. to his son BENJAMIN HERRING JR., 2 Nov 1808, for "natural love & affection" 229A in 2 pieces to wit: (1) 227A on the West of Herring Branch, beg. at a gum & joining CREECH; (2) 2A joining the lower corner of the afsd. land on the ES of sd, branch, the 2A for privilege for a mill. Wit: ALEX O'DANIEL, BENJN. ( X) CREECH. Jan. Ct. 1810. Bk 4A p. 408 WILLIAM GLISSON to JOHN BLIZARD, both of Duplin Co., 17 Sep 1812. Wit: HENRY GRADY, ALEX. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. Bk 4A p. 409 STEPHEN GUFFORD to JOHN BLIZARD. both of Duplin Co., 3 Mar 1810, for 172 pds. 10 shill. 120A on the NS of Goshen Swamp, being part of 3 patents, patented by JACOB LAWHAUN, WILLIAM GODWIN & JACOB GLISSON, beg. at a water oak ALEXANDER O'DANIEL'S corner near the corner of BLIZARD'S field, to a black jack not far from STEPHEN GUFFORD'S house & adj. LEWIS GLISSON & GEORGE F. KORNEGAY. Wit: WILLIAM KORNEGAY, AL. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

This is an interesting deed. The HINES are tied up with the OUTLAWS, WHITFIELDS and others of Duplin County, NC. <<< p.136. RICHARD ROBERTS (co. not given) to his son WRIGHT ROBERTS, 13 OCT 1791, for "love & affection" a parcel of land on ES of Buck Marsh, with sd. RICHARD ROBERTS & his present wife MARY ROBERTS having poss. & use of land during their natural lives. Wit: LEWIS HINES, ALEXANDER DANIEL. Jan Ct. 1795. >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Mike, Take a look at this. That is my Robert and Penelope Lane DANIEL sitting on this 1805 Wayne County, NC deed. Robert may not have been out of John and Sarah's line of Northampton but he was from a DANIEL line somewhere close to this bunch. I will tell you this, they have the children of Islam LANE, Sr. all cobbled up. The best information says they were (not necessarily in order): i. Penelope LANE born 1773 in either Dobbs or Edgecombe County, NC married Robert DANIEL ABT 1792. ii. Bethany LANE married Isaac PARKER iii. Cullen LANE married Zilphia HOOKER iv. Isham LANE, Jr. -- do not know who he married but he was an adult in 1793, married and living in Greene County, NC v. Bryant LANE married Rebecca THOMPSON, d/o Zadock mentioned on this deed. vi. Sarah "Sally" married a WILLIAMS The John and maybe the Matthew LANE listed in this deed were sons of one of Bryant LANE, we think. This deed is actually a mixture of Isham, Sr. children and grand children. Frank THOMPSON who has been researching this family for years is my source for much of this information on these LANES. We know that a William DANIEL was living with Isham LANE, Jr. in 1793 in Greene County, NC. We think the LANE children of Capt. Isham LANE, Sr. were born in the 1755-1775 time frame, all probably in Dobbs or Edgecombe County, NC. Frank says they moved into what became Greene County, NC in concert with the YELVERTONS, as best he can tell. Isham Land had an unredeemed Rev. War Voucher, Continental Line, Craven Co. NC. Isham Lane is found in the Dobbs County, North Carolina Tax List of 1769. He had 745 acres of land In 1761 Isham LANE was appointed Capt. in the Dobbs County, NC militia. We know that Isham LANE, Sr. was a son of Lt. Thomas LANE (ABT 1715-1769) who I think was a son of Joseph LANE, Sr. and Julian JARRALL of Edgecombe County, NC. <<< Wayne Co. Deed Book 9 page 44. 15 Jan 1805 John Lane, Matthew Lane, Isaac Parker, Sally Williams, Robert Daniel and Penny his wife and Elizabeth Lane heirs of Isham Lane dec'd of Greene and Wayne Co. to Zadock Thompson, $2359.00. 432a. South side of Beaver Dam, North Side of Button branch.-----. wit; William Exam, Je Thompson, Sherard Barrow, Matthew Barrow Wayne Co. deed book # 9 page 36; Feb. 2, 1807- Cullen Lane of Greene Co. to Zadock Thompson, $200.00, 72a Part of the old patent of Isham Lane Dec'd and joining sd.deceased plantation, descended to sd. Cullen Lane from his father Isham Lane dec'd.--On Button Br.,--Beaver Dam, Adj. Zadock Thompson-- wit. William Exum, Erastus Ham ( Note, Button br.is the dividing line between Wayne and Greene Co.'s just South of Nahunta swamp.) . >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] John DANIEL and Sarah DICKINSON of Northampton County, NC > John DANIEL of Northampton Co., NC names six sons and two daughters in his > 1754 will. Of the six sons I know Ezekiel, Ephraim and Isaac were at one time > in Wayne based on records. Ephraim was a Baptist minister in charge of a > church at Black Creek in Wayne Co. > > As to Isaac PARKER, he was a witness on John DICKINSON's will in 1749 and his > wife Rebecca's will in 1750 and also is named in 1738 Bertie Co. court > minutes as being named the constable in the room of Jno. DANIEL. There is also a > Francis PARKER that has several dealings with John. > > On John's other sons Joseph, John and Abraham I have no records. Dau. > Elizabeth married a Johnathan ROGERS in 1794 and I have nothing on daughter Sarah. > > Mike Daniel > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > Mail Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > or- > Digest Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >

John DANIEL of Northampton Co., NC names six sons and two daughters in his 1754 will. Of the six sons I know Ezekiel, Ephraim and Isaac were at one time in Wayne based on records. Ephraim was a Baptist minister in charge of a church at Black Creek in Wayne Co. As to Isaac PARKER, he was a witness on John DICKINSON's will in 1749 and his wife Rebecca's will in 1750 and also is named in 1738 Bertie Co. court minutes as being named the constable in the room of Jno. DANIEL. There is also a Francis PARKER that has several dealings with John. On John's other sons Joseph, John and Abraham I have no records. Dau. Elizabeth married a Johnathan ROGERS in 1794 and I have nothing on daughter Sarah. Mike Daniel

Good Morning, What do we know about these folks. One of the interesting things I saw was the name, Isaac PARKER, sitting on 1753 deeds of John DICKINSON to his daughters, Sarah DANIEL, Elizabeth FUTRELL, Rebecca NEWSOME, Charity DICKINSON and Mary DICKINSON. Generally one of the only children for John and Sarah that is listed is Ephraim DANIEL born ABT 1740 in Northampton County, NC. Here is what I think - there were more children for John and Sarah and some of these may have moved to Pitt, Wayne or Greene County, NC. I know that an Isaac PARKER is in Wayne County, NC in the 1805 time frame and on deeds with LANES and DANIELS. . I also know a William DANIEL is listed as living with Isham LANE, Jr. in Greene County, NC in 1793 and was so ordered to work on the road. I also know that Robert C. DANIEL (ABT 1765-AFT 1830) married Isham's sister, Penelope LANE ABT 1792. That, pretty much tells me that William and Robert were probably brothers. I think Robert was the oldest of the two. William DANIEL is found in 1800 in Greene County, NC (20010-10010) age 26 to 45 with 3 children and a wife. He is probably in his early 30's which fits in with Robert DANIEL. See census abstract of this 1800 Greene County, NC census, below. Robert has already moved from Greene County, NC probably to Wayne County, NC in 1800 so I have included the 1793 Voters List from Greene County, NC to show the families that were close to him. Several names are of interest of this voters list -- Noah SMITH, Thomas TARVER and Moses HINSON. Noah Smith lived near RCD in Burke County, GA in 1820, the HINSONS were related to the LANES in Halifax County, NC and Thomas TARVER born ABt 1750 was a brother of Samuel TARVER III who married Celia JORDAN and moved to Richmond County, GA If anyone has any thoughts on this bunch, I would like to hear them. Thanks...... <<< 1800 Greene County, NC Census 847 1 Stricklin Joseph 2 . . 1 . 1 1 1 . . . . Handwritten page #218 847 2 Williams John . . . 1 . . . 1 . . . . . 847 3 Lewis Martha 1 . 1 . . . . . . 1 . . . 847 4 Escam William . . . 1 . . . 1 . . . 6 . 847 5 Barden John 2 . . 1 . 3 1 . 1 . . 7 . 847 6 Sherrard William . . . 1 . 3 . 1 . . . 6 . 847 7 Lane Isham Jr 3 1 1 1 . . . . 1 . . 6 . 847 8 Savage Joel 1 1 . 1 . . . . 1 . . . . 847 9 Daniel William 2 . . 1 . 1 . . 1 . . . . 847 10 Barden Woodard 3 . . 1 . 2 . . 1 . . 1 . 847 11 Smith Henry 3 1 2 1 . 2 1 . 1 . . 1 . 847 12 Parsons Thomas . . 1 . . . . . . . . 5 . 847 13 Alphen Jesse 1 1 . 1 . . . 1 . 1 . . . 847 14 Parsons Lydia 1 . . . . . . 1 . . . 1 . 847 15 Sauls Raymon 1 2 1 . 1 2 1 1 . 1 . . . 847 16 Sherrard Benjamin 1 1 1 1 . 3 1 . 1 . . 7 . 847 17 Howel Caleb 4 1 . 1 . . . . 1 . . . . 847 18 Smith Mark 2 1 2 . 1 3 2 . . 1 . . . 847 19 Revel Isham 2 2 . 1 . 2 1 . . 1 . 6 . 847 20 Jourdan Frederick 2 . . 1 . 3 . . 1 . . 3 . 847 21 Nison Benjamin 1 . . 1 . . . 1 1 . . . . 847 22 Parker John 1 . . 1 . 2 . . 1 . . . . 847 23 Smith Josiah 5 . . 1 . . . . 1 . . . . >>> 1793 Greene County, NC Voters List <<< 86 David Scarborough 1 1 87 James Turnage 1 1 88 Enoch Price 1 1 89 Matthew Hanks 1 1 90 George Butts 1 1 91 Thomas Kinney 1 1 92 Moses Hinson 1 1 93 Thomas Tarrbarr 1 1 [Note: Thomas TARVER] 94 James Barfield 1 1 95 Robert Daniels 1 1 96 Noah Smith 1 1 97 Benjamin Ellis 1 1 98 Andrew Mizell 1 1 99 Francis Meeks 1 1 100 William Holliday 1 1 101 John Taylor 1 1 102 Jonathan Faircloth 1 1 103 Richard Smith 1 1 104 Benjamin Caswell 1 1 >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Ruth, You might want to peruse through the Journal of Bishop Francis Asbury parts of which are on line at: http://wesley.nnu.edu/AsburyJournal/Vol_I/1asbury_home.htm John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Newlan" <ruthann@saw.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > Hi John and All: > > Just an interesting note - it appears that Bishop Asbury was well traveled. > It's Martin Key's daughter Elizabeth Key that married Josiah Daniel. > > Taken from "The National Cyclopedia of American Biography, Vol 9" page 537. > > Joseph Staunton Key, Methodist Episcopal bishop, was born at La Grange, > Troup Co., GA, July 18, 1829, son of Caleb W. Key. According to history, a > certain Sir Martin Key, chief of the grooms of Edward VI, was married to > Catherine, sister of the ill fated Lady Jane Grey, and from them, it is > believed, that the American Keys are descended. A Martin Key appeared in > Virginia beofre 1645, and obtained grants of land in the eastern part of the > colony. A hundred years later, a third Martin Key, a tabacco planter was > living in Albemarle Co., and still later entertained Bishop Asbury as a > guest.." > > - Ruth in Portland, OR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:15 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > > > > P, > > > > Beverley Anthony ALLEN (1757-1857) was born, probably in New Kent County, > VA > > the son of Benjamin ALLEN and Elizabeth, later of Henrico County, VA. He > > married Anna SINGLETARY in 1786 in Edisto, Berkley County, SC. > Afterwards, > > his conduct went south not only in his relationship with the Methodist > > church and ASBURY but also with the law. He died in Logan County, KY in > Jan > > 1857, age almost 100. > > > > According to other information I have seen on Beverly, he was a model > > citizen in KY after his problems in GA. He had been defrocked by Bishop > > ASBURY in 1791, as I remember, but as you will note from ASBURY's > Journal -- > > ASBURY had already lost his faith in ALLEN much earlier. > > > > After being broken out of the jail in Elbert County, GA where he had been > > incarcerated after bribing his way out of the jail in Augusta, GA, Beverly > > ALLEN fled to KY, then a US territory. According to what I read, a mob of > > local citizens broke him out of the jail in Elberton. There was never a > > reason known why he killed Marshall FORSYTH, who had only gone to his room > > to serve a civil process on him -- nothing criminal. I think the story > > was -- he shot him through the door. > > > > Beverley was the gs of Robert ALLEN, Sr. (ABt 1680-1756) and Elizabeth > > WALKER of New Kent County, VA. Robert ALLEN III, gs of Robert and > > Elizabeth, migrated to Augusta, Richmond County, GA. This was also the > > location where Beverly killed US Marshall FORSYTH, I think it was John but > > it may have been Robert. One of the two and the other, his son, was later > > Governor of GA and still good friends with the DANIELS of Madison County, > > GA. > > > > My information says that Mary ALLEN, the wife of Capt. Allen DANIEL, was a > > child of Joseph ALLEN and Sarah HUNT of New Kent County, VA, later > Charlotte > > County, VA. Joseph was an older brother of Benjamin ALLEN, Beverley's > > father, so Beverley would have been Mary's first cousin..... > > > > My guess has always been that Capt. Allen DANIEL (1738-1814) of Madison > > County, GA was more than likely from the Williams DANIEL and Elizabeth > > WATKINS family of Cumberland County, VA or a DANIEL line very close to > this > > DANIEL line, which has the same overall connections to this same ALLEN > > family. . > > > > William DANIEL, son of Williams DANIEL and Elizabeth WATKINS of > Cumberland, > > born 1739 married Martha Patty Field ALLEN, daughter of Samuel ALLEN and > gd > > of William ALLEN, whose older brother was Robert ALLEN, Sr. -- Beverly's > > grandfather. That's my two bits on this bunch based upon what I see in > > these collaterals and their inter-relationships. . > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:07 AM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > > > > > > > John, perhaps you would like to elaborate on this bit of data and how > old > > > Beverly sets the tone for the Allen Daniel family? > > > > > > Payne > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:06 AM > > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > > > > > > > > > > This may be the final clue as to where the Capt. Allen DANIEL family > > came > > > > from. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1786, Journals of Francis Asbury > > > > > > > > Beverly Allen, soon to become an apostate and a criminal, had not gone > > to > > > > his appointment in Georgia but worked around Cainhoy, South Carolina, > > and > > > > Anson, North Carolina. Asbury apparently did not trust him in spite of > > his > > > > standing and so confided to Bishop Coke. > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List > Archives > > > at: > > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of > > messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families > or > > those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not > > allowed on this list. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of > messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or > those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not > allowed on this list. > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >

These are buried in the REED FAMILY CEMETERY near Huffman, Jefferson Co., AL (Read by Robin Nelson) John and Mary DANIEL (newer stone with no dates, but we believe these are John B. and Mary Pugh DANIEL of Laurens Co., SC and Jefferson Co., AL) John B. was born about 1769 in Virginia and died after 1850 in Jefferson Co. He was living with the family of John REED in 1850, age 81. Mary was born about 1771 in Virginia and died in Jefferson Co., AL about 1840. The following people named REED are buried there: ROBERT REED Born Feb. 7, 1792 Died Feb. 22, 1873 CARY ANN REED 1802-1845 MARY COBB REED 1816-1869 WILLIAM REED Born Apr. 13, 1770 Died Apr. 22, 1856 RUTH REED Born Jan. 1, 1777 Died Oct. 12, 1868 JOHN REED 1736-1820 ELIZA REED WIFE OF JOHN REED No dates recorded OSCAR LOUIS REED Sept. 2, 1867 July 6, 1873 Another monument gives these dates for ROBERT REED Feb. 7, 1798 Feb. 22, 1873 Nancy DANIEL daughter of John B. and Mary married John REED (ABT. 1799--AFT. 1870). Evan Peter REED (1853-1916) married Sarah Rosaline DANIEL (1855-1930), daughter of Joseph Harrison and Aletha Baylis DANIEL. These are not buried in this REED family cemetery, however. We don't know where they are buried. Martha

Hi John and All: Just an interesting note - it appears that Bishop Asbury was well traveled. It's Martin Key's daughter Elizabeth Key that married Josiah Daniel. Taken from "The National Cyclopedia of American Biography, Vol 9" page 537. Joseph Staunton Key, Methodist Episcopal bishop, was born at La Grange, Troup Co., GA, July 18, 1829, son of Caleb W. Key. According to history, a certain Sir Martin Key, chief of the grooms of Edward VI, was married to Catherine, sister of the ill fated Lady Jane Grey, and from them, it is believed, that the American Keys are descended. A Martin Key appeared in Virginia beofre 1645, and obtained grants of land in the eastern part of the colony. A hundred years later, a third Martin Key, a tabacco planter was living in Albemarle Co., and still later entertained Bishop Asbury as a guest.." - Ruth in Portland, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > P, > > Beverley Anthony ALLEN (1757-1857) was born, probably in New Kent County, VA > the son of Benjamin ALLEN and Elizabeth, later of Henrico County, VA. He > married Anna SINGLETARY in 1786 in Edisto, Berkley County, SC. Afterwards, > his conduct went south not only in his relationship with the Methodist > church and ASBURY but also with the law. He died in Logan County, KY in Jan > 1857, age almost 100. > > According to other information I have seen on Beverly, he was a model > citizen in KY after his problems in GA. He had been defrocked by Bishop > ASBURY in 1791, as I remember, but as you will note from ASBURY's Journal -- > ASBURY had already lost his faith in ALLEN much earlier. > > After being broken out of the jail in Elbert County, GA where he had been > incarcerated after bribing his way out of the jail in Augusta, GA, Beverly > ALLEN fled to KY, then a US territory. According to what I read, a mob of > local citizens broke him out of the jail in Elberton. There was never a > reason known why he killed Marshall FORSYTH, who had only gone to his room > to serve a civil process on him -- nothing criminal. I think the story > was -- he shot him through the door. > > Beverley was the gs of Robert ALLEN, Sr. (ABt 1680-1756) and Elizabeth > WALKER of New Kent County, VA. Robert ALLEN III, gs of Robert and > Elizabeth, migrated to Augusta, Richmond County, GA. This was also the > location where Beverly killed US Marshall FORSYTH, I think it was John but > it may have been Robert. One of the two and the other, his son, was later > Governor of GA and still good friends with the DANIELS of Madison County, > GA. > > My information says that Mary ALLEN, the wife of Capt. Allen DANIEL, was a > child of Joseph ALLEN and Sarah HUNT of New Kent County, VA, later Charlotte > County, VA. Joseph was an older brother of Benjamin ALLEN, Beverley's > father, so Beverley would have been Mary's first cousin..... > > My guess has always been that Capt. Allen DANIEL (1738-1814) of Madison > County, GA was more than likely from the Williams DANIEL and Elizabeth > WATKINS family of Cumberland County, VA or a DANIEL line very close to this > DANIEL line, which has the same overall connections to this same ALLEN > family. . > > William DANIEL, son of Williams DANIEL and Elizabeth WATKINS of Cumberland, > born 1739 married Martha Patty Field ALLEN, daughter of Samuel ALLEN and gd > of William ALLEN, whose older brother was Robert ALLEN, Sr. -- Beverly's > grandfather. That's my two bits on this bunch based upon what I see in > these collaterals and their inter-relationships. . > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:07 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > > > > John, perhaps you would like to elaborate on this bit of data and how old > > Beverly sets the tone for the Allen Daniel family? > > > > Payne > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:06 AM > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > > > > > > > This may be the final clue as to where the Capt. Allen DANIEL family > came > > > from. > > > > > > > > > 1786, Journals of Francis Asbury > > > > > > Beverly Allen, soon to become an apostate and a criminal, had not gone > to > > > his appointment in Georgia but worked around Cainhoy, South Carolina, > and > > > Anson, North Carolina. Asbury apparently did not trust him in spite of > his > > > standing and so confided to Bishop Coke. > > > > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > > at: > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of > messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or > those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not > allowed on this list. > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not allowed on this list. >

Mike, That does not mean he died. He just made a will in case something happened to him. Please remember the previous year Robert, Jr was in real big trouble in Pitt for selling a slave in Surry County, VA that belonged to Col. ARMSTRONG. I wonder is this was just a subterfuge on their part to make it look like Robert had died? James and I think Mary Swain DANIEL end up in Greene County, NC. I wonder if Robert surfaced there , too -- after the war was over and the heat was off..... If he died, there should be some record of his service in the NC Line or militia and something detailing what happened to him. They did keep records on casualties in those days, just like today. November 1780 was not when most kids went off to war, since the RW was almost over in the south by that time. IMHO, this sounds just a little too convenient to me and it would get him out of a lot of hot water at home for playing around with "Suk." <grin> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Roster Of DANIEL Officers In NC Confederate Militia > In a message dated 3/10/2004 8:28:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jclarke@rose.net writes: > I wonder if my > Robert C. DANIEL is the Robert, Jr. of those 1779 Pitt County, NC records > and after 1779, Robert, Sr. and Mary moved to Greene County, NC. > Do you have any of her deeds or his will? I think I have a few and will > look them over and see if I see anything interesting. I am looking for a > LANE, BRYAN, THOMPSON, PARKER or DAWSON to a DANIEL family in that neck of > the woods... > John, > > Will of Robert Sr.: > > Will Book No. 1 page 127 Martin County N. C. (Office of Clerk of Court): > Robert Daniel of Martin Co., N. C. will Sept. 17, 1786. 'My son William Daniel; > son Simon Daniel; my daughter Elizabeth; my daughter Sarah; my son James Daniel; > my daughter Jemiah Daniel; my daughter Chloe Daniel; my sons > William Daniel and Simon Daniel my whole and sole executors. Test: Joshua > Robason, Frederick Godward. Colonial Records of N. C. Vol. VI, page 343 (byW. L. > Saunders): > > Will of Robert Jr (by the statement of his parents): > B1P80 Robert DANIELS, SR,; William DANIEL; Mary DANIEL; swore to Samuel > SMITHWICK; justice of the peace, that Robert DANIEL, JR. called on them on 7 > November 1780 to take notice that he was going into the service and did not have > time to make a will in writing, but his will and desire, in case he should die, > was his sisters and brothers (not named) were to be given something. men: bro. > James DANIEL; wit appeared in court 18 August 1782. > > Mike > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not allowed on this list. > >

Mike, On second thought about Thomas and Simon. Probably brothers but they could have been cousins. I do think the CULLENS have some play in this and we know that Thomas POLLOCK married a CULLEN and we also know that Thomas POLLOCK was young Thomas's guardian. I also think the BRYANS or BRYANTS were part of this bunch as were the others in this little group that I have identified, before. I still think they were Surry and not IOW but maybe IOW, early, but not by the time frame we are talking about. My best guess is -- it was James City and then Surry but that is just a guess. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:56 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Simon DANIELL > Does anyone recognize this Simon: > > This Bill Bindeth me John DENE me my [ayers] Excetors adminestrators to pay > or Cuse to be payd unto Joseph WINSLOW and Company or there order the full sum > of owne thousand owne hondred and forten poundes of Good sound [merchantable] > tobacco and Cask to contayn the sayd [sum] to [be] payd of the ferst of my > owne [Crope] upon [all] demand after the tenth day of October next insuing the > deate hereon as witness my hand this 20th day of Jenewery 1675/6. > > John DEENE > Testes [Simon DANIELL] Jene PARKER her marke [Endorsed:] John Deene bill for > 1114 > > Souce is NC Higher Court Records edited by Mattie Erma Edwards Parker > Copyright 1968 Raleigh, NC State Dept. of Archives & History > > If this is the Simon we carry as son of Owen then he was born earlier than we > thought. The counties in NC at this time were Albemarle and Chowan (1670) > and there were several precincts (Currituck, Pasquotank and Perquimans for the > purposes of local administration) set up after 1668. > > Mike Daniel > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. > >

Mike, Very interesting. Now, look at this (below). Notice the DEAN in this and remember that one of my LANE girls married an Isaac PARKER in Greene or Wayne County, NC. Contrary to what some may think and I cannot tell you how close all of these families were. IMHO, it all smells of the same overall DANIEL bunch since another LANE girl married Robert C. DANIEL and Council is a real possibility for his middle name. I tend to think this is the LANE, ISHAM and DANIEL family out of Surry. That, is sure where it seems to point. Also remember where the LANIERS, BARKERS and that bunch was from -- Surry County, VA. As for me, I have never bought into that HUGH DANIELL story for the primary reason is there is no Hugh found down the road in this family and for that not to happen, would be extremely rare. This does not mean that I do not think that Thomas and Simon were not brothers. I think they were...... <<< I watch the WOOTENS pretty closely. Lucy COUNCIL married Richard WOOTEN, Jr. Lucy was the d/o Hodges COUNCIL and Lucy HARDY. Lucy and Richard's son, William WOOTEN, born 1705, married an Elizabeth Ann DEAN. Another son, John WOOTEN, married Mary JOHNSTON and their son, Council WOOTEN married Mary BURNEY, d/o Simon BURNEY, Sr. and Louisa PUGH. Simon was the brother of Sarah BURNEY who married Thomas DANIEL, (I think, Jr.), son of Thomas DANIEL and Elizabeth LANIER. >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:56 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Simon DANIELL > Does anyone recognize this Simon: > > This Bill Bindeth me John DENE me my [ayers] Excetors adminestrators to pay > or Cuse to be payd unto Joseph WINSLOW and Company or there order the full sum > of owne thousand owne hondred and forten poundes of Good sound [merchantable] > tobacco and Cask to contayn the sayd [sum] to [be] payd of the ferst of my > owne [Crope] upon [all] demand after the tenth day of October next insuing the > deate hereon as witness my hand this 20th day of Jenewery 1675/6. > > John DEENE > Testes [Simon DANIELL] Jene PARKER her marke [Endorsed:] John Deene bill for > 1114 > > Souce is NC Higher Court Records edited by Mattie Erma Edwards Parker > Copyright 1968 Raleigh, NC State Dept. of Archives & History > > If this is the Simon we carry as son of Owen then he was born earlier than we > thought. The counties in NC at this time were Albemarle and Chowan (1670) > and there were several precincts (Currituck, Pasquotank and Perquimans for the > purposes of local administration) set up after 1668. > > Mike Daniel > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. > >

Does anyone recognize this Simon: This Bill Bindeth me John DENE me my [ayers] Excetors adminestrators to pay or Cuse to be payd unto Joseph WINSLOW and Company or there order the full sum of owne thousand owne hondred and forten poundes of Good sound [merchantable] tobacco and Cask to contayn the sayd [sum] to [be] payd of the ferst of my owne [Crope] upon [all] demand after the tenth day of October next insuing the deate hereon as witness my hand this 20th day of Jenewery 1675/6. John DEENE Testes [Simon DANIELL] Jene PARKER her marke [Endorsed:] John Deene bill for 1114 Souce is NC Higher Court Records edited by Mattie Erma Edwards Parker Copyright 1968 Raleigh, NC State Dept. of Archives & History If this is the Simon we carry as son of Owen then he was born earlier than we thought. The counties in NC at this time were Albemarle and Chowan (1670) and there were several precincts (Currituck, Pasquotank and Perquimans for the purposes of local administration) set up after 1668. Mike Daniel

In a message dated 3/10/2004 8:28:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, jclarke@rose.net writes: I wonder if my Robert C. DANIEL is the Robert, Jr. of those 1779 Pitt County, NC records and after 1779, Robert, Sr. and Mary moved to Greene County, NC. Do you have any of her deeds or his will? I think I have a few and will look them over and see if I see anything interesting. I am looking for a LANE, BRYAN, THOMPSON, PARKER or DAWSON to a DANIEL family in that neck of the woods... John, Will of Robert Sr.: Will Book No. 1 page 127 Martin County N. C. (Office of Clerk of Court): Robert Daniel of Martin Co., N. C. will Sept. 17, 1786. 'My son William Daniel; son Simon Daniel; my daughter Elizabeth; my daughter Sarah; my son James Daniel; my daughter Jemiah Daniel; my daughter Chloe Daniel; my sons William Daniel and Simon Daniel my whole and sole executors. Test: Joshua Robason, Frederick Godward. Colonial Records of N. C. Vol. VI, page 343 (byW. L. Saunders): Will of Robert Jr (by the statement of his parents): B1P80 Robert DANIELS, SR,; William DANIEL; Mary DANIEL; swore to Samuel SMITHWICK; justice of the peace, that Robert DANIEL, JR. called on them on 7 November 1780 to take notice that he was going into the service and did not have time to make a will in writing, but his will and desire, in case he should die, was his sisters and brothers (not named) were to be given something. men: bro. James DANIEL; wit appeared in court 18 August 1782. Mike

P, Beverley Anthony ALLEN (1757-1857) was born, probably in New Kent County, VA the son of Benjamin ALLEN and Elizabeth, later of Henrico County, VA. He married Anna SINGLETARY in 1786 in Edisto, Berkley County, SC. Afterwards, his conduct went south not only in his relationship with the Methodist church and ASBURY but also with the law. He died in Logan County, KY in Jan 1857, age almost 100. According to other information I have seen on Beverly, he was a model citizen in KY after his problems in GA. He had been defrocked by Bishop ASBURY in 1791, as I remember, but as you will note from ASBURY's Journal -- ASBURY had already lost his faith in ALLEN much earlier. After being broken out of the jail in Elbert County, GA where he had been incarcerated after bribing his way out of the jail in Augusta, GA, Beverly ALLEN fled to KY, then a US territory. According to what I read, a mob of local citizens broke him out of the jail in Elberton. There was never a reason known why he killed Marshall FORSYTH, who had only gone to his room to serve a civil process on him -- nothing criminal. I think the story was -- he shot him through the door. Beverley was the gs of Robert ALLEN, Sr. (ABt 1680-1756) and Elizabeth WALKER of New Kent County, VA. Robert ALLEN III, gs of Robert and Elizabeth, migrated to Augusta, Richmond County, GA. This was also the location where Beverly killed US Marshall FORSYTH, I think it was John but it may have been Robert. One of the two and the other, his son, was later Governor of GA and still good friends with the DANIELS of Madison County, GA. My information says that Mary ALLEN, the wife of Capt. Allen DANIEL, was a child of Joseph ALLEN and Sarah HUNT of New Kent County, VA, later Charlotte County, VA. Joseph was an older brother of Benjamin ALLEN, Beverley's father, so Beverley would have been Mary's first cousin..... My guess has always been that Capt. Allen DANIEL (1738-1814) of Madison County, GA was more than likely from the Williams DANIEL and Elizabeth WATKINS family of Cumberland County, VA or a DANIEL line very close to this DANIEL line, which has the same overall connections to this same ALLEN family. . William DANIEL, son of Williams DANIEL and Elizabeth WATKINS of Cumberland, born 1739 married Martha Patty Field ALLEN, daughter of Samuel ALLEN and gd of William ALLEN, whose older brother was Robert ALLEN, Sr. -- Beverly's grandfather. That's my two bits on this bunch based upon what I see in these collaterals and their inter-relationships. . John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > John, perhaps you would like to elaborate on this bit of data and how old > Beverly sets the tone for the Allen Daniel family? > > Payne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:06 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > > > > This may be the final clue as to where the Capt. Allen DANIEL family came > > from. > > > > > > 1786, Journals of Francis Asbury > > > > Beverly Allen, soon to become an apostate and a criminal, had not gone to > > his appointment in Georgia but worked around Cainhoy, South Carolina, and > > Anson, North Carolina. Asbury apparently did not trust him in spite of his > > standing and so confided to Bishop Coke. > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not allowed on this list. >

John, perhaps you would like to elaborate on this bit of data and how old Beverly sets the tone for the Allen Daniel family? Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Some more information on Brother Beverly ALLEN > This may be the final clue as to where the Capt. Allen DANIEL family came > from. > > > 1786, Journals of Francis Asbury > > Beverly Allen, soon to become an apostate and a criminal, had not gone to > his appointment in Georgia but worked around Cainhoy, South Carolina, and > Anson, North Carolina. Asbury apparently did not trust him in spite of his > standing and so confided to Bishop Coke. > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > >