The 1748 record is probably the John Daniel Sr., (1707-bef. Feb.1764) who married Sarah Raven. He died in New Hanover Co., NC. John Jr, was to young for this transaction. Who is this Christopher Daniel/Danell? Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:40 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Wayne County, NC Information > > Christopher DANIEL 1626 Land Patent > > <<< > Land Patent. Corp. of James City, Virginia. [1626]. CHRISTOPHER DANELL > 100 acres on Warosquoiacke Plantation from Hog Island, 10 miles by river > side, page . [Hotten, page 272.] > > > 1748 > * 4 September 1748. The Spanish Alarm Troops at Wilmington, North > Carolina, [from Clark, STATE RECORDS, Volume 22, pages 282 - 283]. A List > of Capt. John Shearrard's Company. WILLIAM A. COCK #2; THOMAS A. COCK #40; > JOHN A. COCK #41; SIMON A. COCK #43 AND CHARLES A. COCK #53 [Other men > responding: JOHN NEWSUM, JESSE BARDIN, WILLIAM JONES, JOHN BARNES, SAMUEL > BARNES, JOHN WORREL, SR. RICHARD WORREL, JOHN WORREL, JR., ISAAC DANIEL, > JOHN DANIEL, and WILLIAM WILLIAMS.] > [eds. note: Spanish war ships attacked the town of Beaufort, NC in 1747 and > the town of Brunswick in 1748] > > > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > >

It doesn't hurt to spend a few hours in a very good genealogical reading room or archives such as the one in Raleigh, NC., or in Charleston, SC., or in York Towne, Va. John's suggestions are worth exploring as well. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: <WANDABUG1@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Wills > Thanks for telling me; I'll try that. Wanda > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not allowed on this list. > >

In a message dated 3/17/2004 6:10:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, jclarke@rose.net writes: Now, we are getting somewhere. I felt there was more in this little group of DANIELS in Edgecombe than the regular IOW clan. Give me what you think are Charles and Thomas' ancestors John, I still carry these boys as sons of William of Essex Co., Va. & Elizabeth COLEMAN. You will find Charles' name in many documents in Edgecombe and Halifax Co.'s because as stated in "The History of North Carolina Baptists": "He was reputed a knowing and wise man. and therfore often consulted in civil affairs" Mike Daniel

Good Morning, Boy are there some familiar names in this one. The BRIGHTS are all over the WHITFIELDS and BRYANS. The HAMS also went to Jefferson County, GA and one of my DANIEL girls, Amelia DANIEL (1795-1860) married a William P. TAYLOR in Burke County, GA and the Robert DANIEL listed in this complaint as a witness was my 2nd GGF and Amelia's father. Robert married Penelope LANE (1773-1846), d/o Capt Isham LANE, Sr. of Greene County, NC. I also know that Ethreldred SMITH was a brother of Noah SMITH, both of whom lived next to Robert DANIEL in Greene County, and Noah moved to GA with the DANIELS and a Charles Daniel CARR (1861-1932), s/o Henry Walker CARR and Cecile E PICQUET of Charleston, SC married one of my close family members of Madison, Morgan County, GA. This, has to connect...... << - Ethreldred Smith beaten by Martin G. Sheppard & Graves Bright - 1806 - fight said made up by Smith to Ellis - Charles Carr wit - William Taylor - wit - Thomas Smith, Zarariah Elliot, Thomas Deale, John B. Parker (Wayne Co.), Joel Ham (Wayne Co.), Robert Daniel, Nathan Minshew Jr. wit - > John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Christopher DANIEL 1626 Land Patent <<< Land Patent. Corp. of James City, Virginia. [1626]. CHRISTOPHER DANELL 100 acres on Warosquoiacke Plantation from Hog Island, 10 miles by river side, page . [Hotten, page 272.] 1748 * 4 September 1748. The Spanish Alarm Troops at Wilmington, North Carolina, [from Clark, STATE RECORDS, Volume 22, pages 282 - 283]. A List of Capt. John Shearrard's Company. WILLIAM A. COCK #2; THOMAS A. COCK #40; JOHN A. COCK #41; SIMON A. COCK #43 AND CHARLES A. COCK #53 [Other men responding: JOHN NEWSUM, JESSE BARDIN, WILLIAM JONES, JOHN BARNES, SAMUEL BARNES, JOHN WORREL, SR. RICHARD WORREL, JOHN WORREL, JR., ISAAC DANIEL, JOHN DANIEL, and WILLIAM WILLIAMS.] [eds. note: Spanish war ships attacked the town of Beaufort, NC in 1747 and the town of Brunswick in 1748] John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Thanks for telling me; I'll try that. Wanda

Wanda, I spend a lot of time searching for them and going through GEDCOMS that, if I am lucky, have a few wills, deeds, etc. in them. If I find someone I am really interested in, I contact that person and ask them if they have this or that. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <WANDABUG1@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:20 PM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Wills > John, please forgive my ignorance, but how do you have access to all these > wills? Be kind...remember I'm new at this! <grin> Wanda > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. > >

John, please forgive my ignorance, but how do you have access to all these wills? Be kind...remember I'm new at this! <grin> Wanda

Mike, Now, we are getting somewhere. I felt there was more in this little group of DANIELS in Edgecombe than the regular IOW clan. Give me what you think are Charles and Thomas' ancestors, if you can. I am looking for connections to BRYANT and UZZELL. Those same UZZELL links are down in Greene County, NC and they are all around my DANIEL-LANE bunch. One think we know is the ANDERSON-BANKS bunch that came to Richmond, Burke and Jefferson County, GA were in the iron smelting business back in PA -- Reading area, during the RW. They are collateral with my DANIEL and their collaterals. We also know from history the iron smelting area of VA was Spotsylvania County, VA area -- later where the Battle of the Wilderness was fought, that area from Mine Run to Fredericksburg. We also know a lot of Spotsylvania County folks moved to Orange County, VA and an Isham LANE, Jr. was born 1757 in Orange County, VA. He later went to KY, they say but we know there was an Isham LANE,.Jr. in Greene County, NC in 1793 so I wonder if he moved south and then went to KY. If so, this could indicate some of the LANE and DANIELS in that are were from Orange or Spotsylvania County, VA. Also remember, that Mary Lou HUNTER (1848-1917) of Greensboro, Greene County, GA, who married my grand uncle, Charles W. RICHTER, Jr. (1837-1907) of Madison, GA in 1866, was a descendant of Thomas DANIEL of Greene County, GA, which could well indicate his brother, John, who also married a DANIEL, also married a descendant of this same DANIEL family........ John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Other interesting Edgecombe County, NC deeds > In a message dated 3/17/2004 12:02:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jclarke@rose.net writes: > Notice the name, Edward MOORE in these deeds. There is also a Thomas > WHITFIELD all over these CAIN deeds and I think he may play into this whole > bunch. > > I wish I know which branch of the WHITFIELDS he was out of, as well as the > Arthur WHITEHEAD, listed in other deeds, as well as Edward MOORE. > > Special note -- look at the Charles DANIEL listed on the last deed...... > Who was this Charles? > John, > > Charles was the Reverend Charles brother of Thomas; both boys went to Greene > Co., Ga. MOORE and Charles were securities for the guardianship of Jacob > CAINE: > > Edgecombe NC Court Minutes Dec 1761 James WYATT is apptd gdn to JACOB CAINE > orphan of JAMES CAINE decd giving security in the sum of L500, Edward MOORE Esq > & Chas DANIEL securities. Added inventory of the Estate of JAMES CAINE > exhibited. Ordered that the remainder of the same be sold according to law. > > Mike Daniel > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. > >

Just found this will. Can anyone identify the John M. DANIEL who witnessed the LW&T of William COTTINGHAM on 25 March 1815 in Lewis County, KY and was an appraiser of the estate? Any help greatly appreciated. William was the father of Mary "Polly" COTTINGHAM who married Stephen HALBERT, s/o Isaac HALBERT and Elizabeth O'DANIEL. Stephen and Polly HALBERT were living on the land of William COTTINGHAM when the will was written. "I William COTTINGHAM of Lewis County and state of Kentucky...all that part of land lying on the south side of Salt Lick Creek where Stephen HALBERT now lives...all the rest residue and remainder of my property of what nature and kind soever my will is that it shall be equally divided among my four daughters hereafter named. (To wit) Sally COTTINGHAM, Polly HALBERT, Elizabeth COTTINGHAM and Susannah COTTINGHAM share and share alike...In testimony whereof I have herunto set my hand and seal this 25th day of March 1815 William COTTINGHAM Signed sealed published and declared by the within named William COTTINGHAM And fore his last will and Testament in the presence of us who at his request have subscrived and names thereunto and in the pressence of eath other. Samuel COX, John M. DANIEL, Edward VEIRS" An inventory and appraisement of the peronal estate and slaves of William COTTINGHAM Deceased. Made by the undersigned commissioners appointed by the Lewis County court after being first duly sworn before Thomas PARKER Esquire Justice of the Peace in and for Lewis County, We proceed on this Thiry first day of October 1820...Polly COTTINGHAM Exectrix John M DANIEL John JOHNSON Willin DAVIS Robert

All, who was the father and mother of this Peter Daniel?Me thinks Heinemann has it all wrong? Payne PETER DANIEL, born B 1730; died 1800. He came early to Bedford Co., Va., where he obtained 604 acres as recorded in Land Book 37, Page 148. He purchased 182 acres there--August 27, 1770. He married MARY (???). He deeded land in what was then Campbell Co., Va., 1782 to 1800. He left a will made February 6, 1799; proved in Campbell Co., Va., February 9, 1801. It is not now known where he originated, but the pension application of his son (3) RICHARD, gives his birth place as Chesterfield County, Va. His widow survived him and was still living after 1812, as shown by a deed made by her son, PETER DANIEL, which reserved 1 acre where his mother then lived. (Campbell Co., Va., D. B. 10, Page 43). He may have been the Peter Daniel listed as number 7 in Daniel Family No. 85, compilation by Charles B. Heinemann in 1949. They had: 1. RICHARD DANIEL, born (???), 1752; died A 1848. 2. PETER DANIEL, born (???)B 1760; died (???). 3. WILLIAM DANIEL, born (???)B 1760; died (???). He left a will in Campbell County, Virginia dated 6 February 1779. The will was filed 13 Apr. 1801.

Thanks for the lesson. I will save the info. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Captain Allen > P, > Most families always followed the setting sun and moved, west, as you > well know. Any family in Goochland was probably an earlier family of > Henrico and before that Charles City or that area. Almost all of these VA > folks did just that, with one exception - the IOW and Surry folks. > IOW families tended to always move south. One of their hot spots was > the Chowan area of NC, and it was several generations and a war or two later > before they started to turn west into AL, MS and TX. Goochland families > generally spread northwest into Fluvanna, Frederick Albemarle, etc areas of > VA but they also tended to move southwest after the RW right through NC into > GA and then after 1800 some of them started to moved west into AL, MS and > TX. > Another migration path was south down the National Highway through > Augusta County, VA, the Charlotte area of NC down to York County, SC and > then west or southwest into GA. This was the path a lot of PA, MD, NJ > (Atlantic seaboard families) took. > However, some of these families split up along the way and some of these > National Highway folks moved west into TN, along with a bunch of Upper Neck > families and others from northwestern VA. > I tend to view it like -- early coastal VA families began a gradual > movement to the north and west probably seeking land in the areas north and > west of present day, Richmond. Around 1700 some of the IOW, Surry and > Sussex area folks started to move into the Chowan areas of NC, since it was > then considered to be part of VA, but after it became part of NC, they > stayed, especially after the Indian problem was alleviated in the early > 1700's. We also know the Middlesex bunch grabbed a bunch of KY land when > it became available, after Richard HENDERSON, Daniel BOONE and others tried > to grab it all for a song. <grin> > Contrary to what some may think, I think a lot of these folks thought > like the "snow birds" of today -- they liked the warmer climes located to > the south, so they headed south. However, warmer climes, as they would soon > find out, have their own problems -- malaria, yellow fever, etc., as they > soon found out. > You also had the "grass is always greener across the fence" philosophy > which determined a lot of where they went and how long they stayed in a > certain place. I have always felt that a family that hit a certain place > with money and bought good land, generally stayed there. Those that did not > could always find a justification to move somewhere else. Know what I mean? > As for a consistent pattern, I do not think there was one for all > families. Some went here and some went there. Some went west, some went > north but the majority after the RW went south. About the only direction > they did not go was east, since most of them could not swim and had an > aversion to taking a bath more than once a year. <grin> > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:59 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Captain Allen > > > > Has anyone ever done a study on migration patterns of the various Virginia > > families? Goochland does jump up quite a bit. > > > > Payne > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Captain Allen > > > > > > > I said PERKINS and I meant his wife, Mary ALLEN who was born in Henrico > > > County, VA the d/o Joseph ALLEN and Sarah HUNT of Charlotte County, VA. > > All > > > of this smells like Goochland origins, to me..... > > > > > > Also notice who Allen DANIEL, Jr. married -- Mary "Polly" JONES, d/o > > Russell > > > JONES of Albemarle County, VA and remember that a lot of folks from > > > Cumberland and Goochland went to Albemarle County, VA. > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > > To: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:42 PM > > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Captain Allen > > > > > > > > > > John, you have suggested that Captain Allen Daniel (1738-1814) of > > Madison > > > > County, GA., was more likely to be from the Williams Daniel and > > Elizabeth > > > > Watkins/Woodson family of Cumberland Co., Va., or a line very close to > > > this > > > > Allen Daniel family. > > > > > > > > The will of William Daniel does not lists a son Allen? The age is > about > > > > right but the connection isn't. Is there an Allen connection with the > > > issue > > > > of William and Elizabeth issue? > > > > > > > > Thanks for the Allen family file it was very helpful in putting my > > > fragments > > > > together. > > > > > > > > Cheers, Payne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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In a message dated 3/17/2004 12:02:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, jclarke@rose.net writes: Notice the name, Edward MOORE in these deeds. There is also a Thomas WHITFIELD all over these CAIN deeds and I think he may play into this whole bunch. I wish I know which branch of the WHITFIELDS he was out of, as well as the Arthur WHITEHEAD, listed in other deeds, as well as Edward MOORE. Special note -- look at the Charles DANIEL listed on the last deed...... Who was this Charles? John, Charles was the Reverend Charles brother of Thomas; both boys went to Greene Co., Ga. MOORE and Charles were securities for the guardianship of Jacob CAINE: Edgecombe NC Court Minutes Dec 1761 James WYATT is apptd gdn to JACOB CAINE orphan of JAMES CAINE decd giving security in the sum of L500, Edward MOORE Esq & Chas DANIEL securities. Added inventory of the Estate of JAMES CAINE exhibited. Ordered that the remainder of the same be sold according to law. Mike Daniel

Notice the name, Edward MOORE in these deeds. There is also a Thomas WHITFIELD all over these CAIN deeds and I think he may play into this whole bunch. I wish I know which branch of the WHITFIELDS he was out of, as well as the Arthur WHITEHEAD, listed in other deeds, as well as Edward MOORE. Special note -- look at the Charles DANIEL listed on the last deed...... Who was this Charles? <<< Edgecombe NC Deed Book 03-499 13 Jun 1750 Capt Robert Warren to WILLIAM CANE for 25pds, 85a on lower half on n side of Tar River part of pat to Robt Warren 26 Jul 1743. s/ Robert Warren. w/ Edward Moore, Jno Bradford. Edgecombe NC Deed Book 04-016 08 Jan 1750 HARDY CANE to Jacob Flowers of S'hampton co. VA, 45 pds, 200ac on south side of Tar River adj Arthur Whitehead, deed of Wm Whitehead to CAIN 18 Aug 1742. s/ HARDY CANE; Wit: Edward Moore, Richd Beck, WILLIAM CAIN. Edgecombe NC Deed Book 04-017 28 Jan 1750 WILLIAM CAIN of Edg to Jacob Flowers of S'hampton Co VA for 40 pds, 85a on Tarr River adj Joshua Dawson and WILLIAM CAIN, pat to Robt Warren 26 Jul 1743. s/ WILLIAM CAIN. w/ Edwd Moore, Richd Ricks, Thos Logelle. Edgecombe NC Deed Book 04-105 04 Feb 1750 HARDY CANE of Edg to Edward Moore for 5pds, 100ac on s side of Tar River between sd HARDY CANE and sd Edwd Moore, the north part of deed from William Whitehead 18 Aug 1762 (1742?). s/ HARDY CANE. Wit: Denison Lemon, William Carroll, James (x) Cary. Edgecombe NC Deed Book 04-371 16 Feb 1753 David Bunn to Jacob Barns for 4pds, 220ac adj JAMES CAIN & the river, grant to David Bunn 25 Mar 1752. Wit: Edward Moore, Samuel x Canadey, Roger x Allen. Edgecombe NC Deed Book 04-476 Aug 1753 JAMES CAIN to Jacob Bains, a pat 5 Mar 1749 to JAMES CAIN 260ac; 10pds, 100ac .. Market trees. Wit: Duncan Lamen, Edwd Moore, William x Wise. Edgecombe NC Deed Book 04-477 22 Aug 1753 JAMES CANE of Edg to William Wise, pat 25 Mar 1749 to JAMES CANE for 260ac; 25 pds, 160ac ..Market Trees s/ JAS CANE. Wit: Duncan Lamen, Edwd Moore, Jacob Barns. Edgecombe NC Deed Book 05-051 05 Jan 1741 Christopher Quin for 15pds to James Braswell 150ac on south side of Roanoak River at mouth of Fort Branch at Joseph Moores, John Ryal. Wit: Joseph Howell, JOSEPH CAIN. Edgecombe NC Deed Book 06-146 12 Jun 1756 WILLIAM CANE of Edg to Jesse Thomas, grant of WILLIAM CANE, 25 Mar 1749, 193a, adj Joseph Thomas, on n side of Sting Creek. s/ WM CANE w/ Edward Moore, Wm Thomas, Richd Thomas, Feb Ct 1757. Edgecombe NC Court Minutes 1746 Upon petn of Sundry inhabitants praying a new road form John Lotts Mill upon Tocsnot to Capt West's Ferry on Tarr River wch is granted and Ord'd that the following Jury ... do lay off the sd road as the law directs, viz: Gabriel Parker ... HARDY CANE, Edwd Moore. Edgecombe NC Will Book A-059 13 Aug 1757 Will of WILLIAM CANE; 13 Aug 1757 / Jun 1761 Wife: Sarah Cane Son: Elisha Cane - Half of Cattle south side Neuse River. Son: Archey Cane - Plantation where I now live, furniture & stock & 1/2 of said tract. Son: William Cane - other half of land whereon I now live. Exr: Wife Sarah Cane and Edward Moore. Wit: William Ricks, Thomas Whitfield, Jacob Barnes. Edgecombe NC Will Book A-070 23 Mar 1761 Will of JAMES CAIN; 23 Mar 1761 / Jun 1761 Dau: Delilah Cain- Negro wench Jive, girl Jive, boy Peter & Furn & stock. Dau: Penelope Cain - Negro wench Mayor?, girl Peg & Dinah & Furn & Stock Dau: Elizabeth Cain- Negro girl Winne, boy Demert?, Furn & Stock. Dau: Mary Cain- Negro girl Patt, boy Jep, Furn and Stock. Dau: Ann Cain - Negro man Tom & Mach, Furn & Stock (NOTE: All dau are under Age 18) Son: James - 640a at plantation where I now live; Negro boy Ben & man Gery, Bible, Furniture and Stock. Son: Harde (Hardy) - mill and plantation and 160a and man Simon and man P____, and Stock. Son: Jacob - plantation and 200a on Beaverdam swamp & 320a in Johnson County, Negro boy Jack, & 62pds Virginia money. Exrs: Br-in-laws Edwd Moore, William Walker & mentions Charles Davis. Wit: Charles Daniel, Nison Weaver, David x Phillips John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

<<< Edgecombe NC Court Minutes Dec 1761 James Wyatt is apptd gdn to JACOB CAINE orphan of JAMES CAINE decd giving security in the sum of L500, Edward Moore Esq & Chas DANIEL securities. Added inventory of the Estate of JAMES CAINE exhibited.Ordered that the remainder of the same be sold according to law. >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

P, Most families always followed the setting sun and moved, west, as you well know. Any family in Goochland was probably an earlier family of Henrico and before that Charles City or that area. Almost all of these VA folks did just that, with one exception - the IOW and Surry folks. IOW families tended to always move south. One of their hot spots was the Chowan area of NC, and it was several generations and a war or two later before they started to turn west into AL, MS and TX. Goochland families generally spread northwest into Fluvanna, Frederick Albemarle, etc areas of VA but they also tended to move southwest after the RW right through NC into GA and then after 1800 some of them started to moved west into AL, MS and TX. Another migration path was south down the National Highway through Augusta County, VA, the Charlotte area of NC down to York County, SC and then west or southwest into GA. This was the path a lot of PA, MD, NJ (Atlantic seaboard families) took. However, some of these families split up along the way and some of these National Highway folks moved west into TN, along with a bunch of Upper Neck families and others from northwestern VA. I tend to view it like -- early coastal VA families began a gradual movement to the north and west probably seeking land in the areas north and west of present day, Richmond. Around 1700 some of the IOW, Surry and Sussex area folks started to move into the Chowan areas of NC, since it was then considered to be part of VA, but after it became part of NC, they stayed, especially after the Indian problem was alleviated in the early 1700's. We also know the Middlesex bunch grabbed a bunch of KY land when it became available, after Richard HENDERSON, Daniel BOONE and others tried to grab it all for a song. <grin> Contrary to what some may think, I think a lot of these folks thought like the "snow birds" of today -- they liked the warmer climes located to the south, so they headed south. However, warmer climes, as they would soon find out, have their own problems -- malaria, yellow fever, etc., as they soon found out. You also had the "grass is always greener across the fence" philosophy which determined a lot of where they went and how long they stayed in a certain place. I have always felt that a family that hit a certain place with money and bought good land, generally stayed there. Those that did not could always find a justification to move somewhere else. Know what I mean? As for a consistent pattern, I do not think there was one for all families. Some went here and some went there. Some went west, some went north but the majority after the RW went south. About the only direction they did not go was east, since most of them could not swim and had an aversion to taking a bath more than once a year. <grin> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Captain Allen > Has anyone ever done a study on migration patterns of the various Virginia > families? Goochland does jump up quite a bit. > > Payne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:01 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Captain Allen > > > > I said PERKINS and I meant his wife, Mary ALLEN who was born in Henrico > > County, VA the d/o Joseph ALLEN and Sarah HUNT of Charlotte County, VA. > All > > of this smells like Goochland origins, to me..... > > > > Also notice who Allen DANIEL, Jr. married -- Mary "Polly" JONES, d/o > Russell > > JONES of Albemarle County, VA and remember that a lot of folks from > > Cumberland and Goochland went to Albemarle County, VA. > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:42 PM > > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Captain Allen > > > > > > > John, you have suggested that Captain Allen Daniel (1738-1814) of > Madison > > > County, GA., was more likely to be from the Williams Daniel and > Elizabeth > > > Watkins/Woodson family of Cumberland Co., Va., or a line very close to > > this > > > Allen Daniel family. > > > > > > The will of William Daniel does not lists a son Allen? The age is about > > > right but the connection isn't. Is there an Allen connection with the > > issue > > > of William and Elizabeth issue? > > > > > > Thanks for the Allen family file it was very helpful in putting my > > fragments > > > together. > > > > > > Cheers, Payne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Good Morning: Joseph DAWSON (ABT 1710-1783) of Greene County, NC was married, twice, first to an Elizabeth BRYANT (ABT 1710-AFT 1754) and all of his children were by Elizabeth who died AFT 1754 and ABT 1765 he married a Patience PIKE and they had one child, a Jesse DAWSON born 1767. This 1783 will is witnessed by: John Lawson, John (X) Daniel, William (X) Wilson. I wonder if this William WILSON is part of the John WILLSON and Sarah DANIEL family out of Tyrrell County, NC.. As one will note, this Sarah DANIEL, d/o Thomas DANIEL and Elizabeth LANIER, had a brother, John DANIEL, Sr. b. ABT 1725. According to some, this John DANIEL married a DOUGLAS but it could well have been a DAWSON, which would account for his being on this will. Patience PIKE was also from the same location, Pasquotank County, North Carolina, that the will of Sarah Daniel WILLSON (1722-1751) was probated in 1752. Does anyone have any information on this Joseph DAWSON? According to this same information, he was the father of William DAWSON (ABT 1730-1803) who married a Martha WILSON, daughter of William and Charity WILSON, and they were the parents of Lucy DAWSON b. 1771 that married a LANE. I think Lucy DAWSON married Isham LANE, Jr and not Sr. but that is just my opinion. The timing of the birth of these children is not right for Lucy to marry Capt. Isham LANE (ABT 1730-1803), as some have speculated, since William DAWSON and Isham LANE, Sr. were contemporaries. However, it is probably part of the same overall bunch. I have put the wills of Joseph DAWSON (ABT 1710-1783) and his son, William DAWSON (ABT 1730-1803), below. The HINDS listed in the will of Joseph DAWSON was probably HINES, a family close to this whole bunch.... Your thoughts on this DAWSON, LANE and DANIEL bunch from Greene County, NC. <<<<<< Will of Joseph DAWSON of Greene County, NC. This will mentions the following persons. Will of Joseph Dawson, Sr. Proved April Court 1784. Wife: Patience. Children: William Dawson, Isaac Dawson, Joel Dawson, Thomas Dawson, Jesse Dawson, Grace Hinds, Esther Prescott, Rachel Parsons, Lany Dawson, Mary Aldredge, Sarah Waterer, Rebecca Smith, Selah Waterer. <<<< In the name of God amen the 20th day of January one thousand seven hundred and eighty three. I Joseph Dawson of Wayne county and the State of Northcarolina being weak of body but of sound and perfect mind and memory. Thanks be given to God for the same and calling to mind the mortality of my body and knowing that His appointed for all men once to die do make and ordain this Instrument to contain my Last Will and Testament in manner following: To Witt: First of all I lend to my beloved wife Patience my Plantation of two hundred acres of land as I now live on and all my right and Title of an entry of one hundred and fifty acres of land adjoining the land I live on not yet surveyed and my still and four cows and calves and her choice of two chairs her choice of one feather bed and furniture half my hogs my sorrel mare, the colt as the said mare is with fold with excepted. I also lend my wife all my Plantation working tools and what iron I have that is to work up and four ewes and one frying pan all during her widowhood and no longer. Item. I give to my said wife my hand saw and grindstone and one beef her choice and I give her the corn and meat now in the house and half the cotton and flax now in the house and all the fodder and one small case with twelve bottles also I give my said wife every thing as I had by her when I married her that is now in being and whatever things such as corn, cotton, pease, flax wheat, potatoes and is on my land growing or made at my death. I give the same to my wife to support her and her family and I give to my said wife my cart and wheels to her and her heirs forever. Item, I give to my son William Dawson my Great Bible besides what I have heretofore given him to him and his heirs forever. Item. I give to my son Isaac Dawson my two negroes Ostroe? and Moreah besides what I have heretofore given him to him and his heirs forever. Item I give to my son Joel Dawson five shillings specie besides what I have heretofore given him to him and his heirs forever. Item I give to my son Thomas Dawson five shillings specie besides what I have heretofore given him to him and his heirs forever. Item. I give to my Daughter Grace Hinds five shillings specie besides what I have heretofore given her to her and her heirs forever; Item I give to my daughter Esther Prescoat five shillings specie besides what I have heretofore given her to her and her heirs forever. Item. I give to my Daughter Rachel Parsons three pounds specie besides what I have heretofore given her to her and her heirs forever. Item. I give to my daughter Lany Dawson four cows and calves at Francis Beemans one bed and furniture and one iron pot and pot hooks and all my pewter as I had when I married my last wife to her and her heirs forever; Item. my desire is that all the rest of my estate not heretofore mentioned maybe sold at nine months credit and the money arising thereby to be equally divided amongst my four daughters meaning Mary Aldredge, Sarah Waterer, Rebekah Smith and Selah Waterer besides what I have heretofore given them to them and their heirs forever. Item. I give to my son Jesse Dawson the lands and Plantation as I now live on as I lent my wife after my said wifes widowhood is determined as aforesaid, and all the rest of my estate as I lent my wife at her death or marriage I give to my said son Jesse Dawson to him and his heirs forever. And my desire is that if my sorrel mare should bring a colt as was before excepted, Then I desire it may be sold at four years old if it lives and the money got thereby to go towards maintaining and schooling my said son Jesse and my desire is that my son Jesse be of age at Eighteen years to act and do for himself. and my desire is that my negroes may not be taken away from my wife if the crop then on the ground at my death be not fully compleated and housed and not till then and if my son Jesse Dawson should die leaving no lawfull heir begotten from his body. Then what I give him to be equally divided such as lands and other things as I left him to be sold after my wifes death or marriage and the money equally divided amongst all my children aforementioned (Esther Prescoat only excepted) to them and their heirs forever. And lastly I constitute nominate and appoint my loving wife Patience executrix and my beloved friend John Handley and my loving son William Dawson executors of this my last will and testament Revoking disannulling and making void all other wills and testaments by me made ratifying and confirming this and no other to be my Last Will and Testament In witness whereof I the said Joseph Dawson have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal the day and year first within written. Signed sealed and acknowledged in Presence of John Lawson, John (X) Daniel, William (X) Wilson. Signed Joseph (his mark) Dawson. (Joseph Dawson, decÕd. Will Proved April Ct. 1784.) <<< Will of William DAWSON of Greene County, NC. This will mentions the following persons. Children: Clarkey Dawson, Penny Dawson, John Dawson, Wilson Dawson, Matthew Dawson, Isaac Dawson, Esther Dawson, William Dawson, Leah Bell, Charity Shuffle, Zilpha Nixon, Luce Lane, Rachel Smith, Joseph Dawson, and granddaughter Elizabeth Dawson. <<< In the name of god Amen that I William Dawson of the State of North Carolina and of Wayne County being weak of body but of perfect mind and Memory do this thirty-first day of August in the year of One Thousand Eight hundred and two do make this my last will and testement in manner and form as follows that is to say first of all I bequeath my Soul to God that gave it and my body to the dust from whence it was taken to be decently buried by my executors hereafter named and for my worldly good that it hath pleased God to bless me with I shall dispose in and form as follows that is to say ITEM I lend to my two daughters Clarkey Dawson and Penny Dawson all my plantation whereon I know live that joins my orchard and also the field up the branch toward the road for the space of five years after my decease if they don't marry, but if they get married it is theirs no longer and also not to have the use of my dwelling house for the foresaid time afterward. I also lend to my two said daughters Clarkey and Penny a Negro man by the name of Tom befor the during the same time and I also give to my two aforesaid daughters one good work horse. I also give to my same two daughters one half of my crop that is in the fealds or in my barn at the time of my decease. ITEM I give and bequeath to my daughter Clarkey Dawson one feather bed and furniture and two cows and calves and two ewes and lambs. ITEM I give to my daughter Penny Dawson a negro woman by the name of Frank and also one feather bed and furniture two cows and calves and two ewes and lambs to her and her heirs for ever. I also lend to my said two daughters all my kitchen furniture and at the end of the foresaid five years the said kitchin furniture is to be sold and the money to be equally divided between my son John Dawson and all my daughters. ITEM I give and bequeath to my son Wilson Dawson the mannor plantation whereon I now live after the aforesaid five years is expired or the marriage of his two sisters to viz: Clarkey and Penny concluding all the land that lys in between the branch called Dawsons Branch and the branch called the Steer pen branch to the road and one half of the pinewood that lys over the road only one half of my orchard excepted until Mathew Dawson comes to the age of twenty-five years. And I also give to son Wilson Dawson one negro boy called George one horse to the value of eighty or a hundred dollars one feather bed and furniture to him and his heirs for ever. ITEM I give and bequeath to my son Mathew Dawson all of my land that lyes in between Richard Crooms line and the branch called Dawsons Branch up to the road and the other half of the pineywood that lys over the road and also a negro boy called Ben and also one year old colt that is now in my possession and also one bed and furniture and also the benefit of one half of my orchard until he comes to the age of twenty-five years to him and his heirs for ever. ITEM I give to my granddaughter Elizabeth Dawson one featherbed and furniture and also one hundred silver dollars to be paid by my executors at my death and to be put out on trust until she comes to age to receive it. ITEM I give and bequeath to son Isaac Dawson one hundred silver dollars to be paid by my executors at my decease. ITEM I give to my daughter Ester Dawson one feather bed and furniture. ITEM I give to my son William Dawson one book called a Church bible. ITEM It is my will and desire that my still shall stand on the plantation where the now stands and that William Dawson and Mathew Dawson should the liberty to still their own liquer but if either of the two should move a way they have no more right to said still. ITEM I give and bequeath to my daughter Leah Bell my riding chear and harnes. ITEM I give and bequeath to daughter Charity Shuffle the cattle that I formerly lent to her. ITEM it is my will and desire in that all what ever I have lent to my two daughters Clarkey and Penny at expiration of the five years or the marriage of the said girls to be sold and the money to be equally divided between my son John Dawson and my eight daughters. And also it is my will and sesire that all of the remainder of my estate that is not given nor lent is sold at my decease by my executors and all the money after all my just debts is paid to be equally divided between my son John Dawson and all my daughters to viz. Zilpha Nixon, Luce Lane, Leah Bell, Charity Shuffle, Rachel Smith, Clarkey Dawson, Penny Dawson, Easter Dawson. ITEM I give and bequeath to my son Joseph Dawson all of my working cloths. And I do hereby ratify and confirm this to be my last will and testament disanulling and revoking all other wills heretofore by me signed and I also appoint my son William Dawson, John Bell, and William Smith my hole and sole executors of this my last will and testement in witness my hand and seal this year and day above written. Signed: William (X) Dawson Signed sealed and delivered in presents of us Test ____Powell, Thomas Smyth?, __Smyth? August Ct. 1803 >>>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA

Ask and it shall be given unto yee, in full measure. So many ifs, maybes and I guess's in the mix. As for me, I will stick to the established version of this family until documentation to the contrary surfaces. Thanks for your time and comments, John. BTW, can you give me the 1, 2, 3 line up for the family of Beverley Anthony Allen as my stuff is fragmented. Regards on this nice Monday morning. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > Payne, > Even in today's time frame, these naming conventions are still used by > most families I am a John, son of a John and grandson of a John and this > latter, John, was also a grandson of a John and this name in the family goes > back to 1750. My wife's nephew is a Richard, grandson of a Richard (my > father-in-law) who was also a grandson of a Richard, who was also a grandson > of a Richard and this goes way back to Richard GROSVENOR.. > My grandson is also a John, grandson of a John (me) and so on. His > middle name is also Walker, a name of his great-grandfather, Walker > GROSVENOR. My oldest daughter has the middle name, Jane, a female version > of John. Our youngest daughter has the middle name, Elizabeth, my > grandmother's name. My wife is a Gail, a grand niece of an Abigail. One of > our grand daughters is named, Catherine, the name of my wife's 3rd GGM and > great grand aunt. > My uncle is an Andrew, son of an Andrew and he has a grandson named, > Andrew. My uncle's son was named, Thomas, his grandfather's middle name, > 1st SGT Robert Thomas ROBINSON of the 26th GA VIR and Tommy's middle name > was Andrew, his father and grandfather's name. > Another ROBINSON uncle was named, John Dame ROBINSON, "John" from the > TOMLINSONS and DAME from the DAMES - my grandmother's family. His oldest > son, my first cousin, was also of the same name. Another son of Uncle John > was named, Joseph, and he was named for his uncle, a ROBINSON. > My TOMLINSONS of Bulloch and Clinch County, GA beat the names, John and > William TOMLINSON to death. My ROBINSONS of Wayne and Charlton County, GA > used ever name in the book, they needed to since they had so many children > but the names of their parents and grandparents were always included in the > names of their children and these names in these families roll back to > before 1750. > Even the RENEAUS beat the name, Russell, to death. I am a 2nd GGS of > Russell RENEAU, his son was named Russell RENEAU, my uncle was named, > Russell, and my middle name is Russell. What more can I say on family > names? > For someone to tell me that Thomas DANIEL and Simon DANIEL were sons of > an Owen DANIEL, but we never see the name, Owen, ever used again in this > family; I am going to say rather quickly -- something is amiss, here. That, > did not happen, especially in that time frame. > As for Thomas DANIEL who married Elizabeth LANIER. Their oldest son, > who was not named for a parent or grandparent, was named, John DANIEL. > Where do you think that leads? The oldest name in Simon and Elizabeth's > family that I cannot account for was William DANIEL and both he and Thomas > had a son named William DANIEL. So, my guess is -- their father was named > either William or John and they could well have been brothers and sons of > John of IOW. > Since we also know that John DANIEL of IOW County, VA was their common > ancestor, at least according to most and it is supported in DNA evidence, I > would go with one of these two possibilities (John or William DANIEL) as > their parents and they were sons of John or IOW County, VA. I also think > Simon and Thomas were probably first cousins and not brothers because they > just do not roll into the same overall group of families although these > families were reasonably "close," as one would suspect cousins to be, they > were not close enough for them to be brothers, because they rolled into a > slightly different set of families. > The names, John and William DANIEL also flow in my bunch, so I suspect I > descend probably from this overall DANIEL family. However, there are a few > missing links that I have yet to uncover to make that assignment, especially > that name, Chesley DANIEL. > There are four male given names that flow in my bunch through several > critical generations -- William, John, Robert and James and I think they are > telling me who my DANIEL ancestors were. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 10:48 AM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > > > > I never worried about Owens's name and a Owen O'Daniel from Duplin being > the > > name sake. Historically, Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct, is Owen Daniel. > He > > is mentioned at the end of the Will of Ann Daniel in the following > > statement: ("I find of record in the Virginia Land Registry, Book No. 8, > > page 428, a grant of130 acres in the Counties of Isle of Wight and > > "Nanzimond," Va., to Owen Daniell in 1695" > > > > So John, how does the Owen O'Daniel of Duplin have anything historically > to > > do with Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct of Albemarle County, North > Carolina? > > > > Payne > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:12 AM > > Subject: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > > > > > > > We have never been able to figure out where the name, Owen DANIEL, > > > supposedly the father of Thomas DANIEL and Simon DANIEL, came from. > This > > > may be a clue... > > > > > > <<< > > > Bk 1A p. 99 STEPHEN BARFIELD to WILLIAM O'DANIEL, both of Duplin Co., 7 > > > July 1783, > > > line belonging to a survey granted to JESSE BARFIELD by patent dated > 1770. > > > Wit: OWEN O'DANIEL, FREDERICK BARFIELD. Oct. Ct. 1784. > > > > > > Bk 1A p. 95 JONATHAN TAYLOR to BENJAMIN HERRING, both of Duplin Co.. > 14 > > > Oct 1783, patented by sd. TAYLOR 4 May 1769. > > > Wit: WILLIAM O'DANIEL, CHARITY HERRING. Oct.ct. 1784. > > > > > > Bk 4A p. 167 BENJAMIN HERRING SR. to his son BENJAMIN HERRING JR., 2 > Nov > > > 1808, for "natural love & affection" 229A in 2 pieces to wit: (1) 227A > on > > > the West of Herring Branch, beg. at a gum & joining CREECH; (2) 2A > joining > > > the lower corner of the afsd. land on the ES of sd, branch, the 2A for > > > privilege for a mill. > > > Wit: ALEX O'DANIEL, BENJN. ( X) CREECH. Jan. Ct. 1810. > > > > > > Bk 4A p. 408 WILLIAM GLISSON to JOHN BLIZARD, both of Duplin Co., 17 > Sep > > > 1812. > > > Wit: HENRY GRADY, ALEX. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > > > > > Bk 4A p. 409 STEPHEN GUFFORD to JOHN BLIZARD. both of Duplin Co., 3 Mar > > > 1810, for > > > 172 pds. 10 shill. 120A on the NS of Goshen Swamp, being part of 3 > > patents, > > > patented > > > by JACOB LAWHAUN, WILLIAM GODWIN & JACOB GLISSON, beg. at a water oak > > > ALEXANDER O'DANIEL'S corner near the corner of BLIZARD'S field, to a > black > > > jack not far from STEPHEN GUFFORD'S house & adj. LEWIS GLISSON & GEORGE > > F. > > > KORNEGAY. > > > Wit: WILLIAM KORNEGAY, AL. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > John R. Clarke > > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > > at: > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > Mail Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > or- > Digest Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >

Looking for information about Kenas Farra DANIEL (b. c. 1834, d. 1872 Washington Co., KY). The 1850 Census Records For Perry Co., KY list a KENIS DANIEL who was born in c. 1834 and was married to Ellender HACKER DANIEL. It lists one daughter named Maxiline, age 1 year. Some records show Ellender HACKER DANIEL as the daughter of Samuel HACKER and the 1850 Census Records show a Samuel HACKER, age 45, living next door. Is this the same Kenis DANIEL who married 23 Mar 1864 Caroline Calhoun CARRIER (1844-1885) in Washington Co., KY? Children of Kenas and Caroline: Ada Florence Daniel, b. 1865 Dora Alice Daniel, b. 1867 Laura Jane Daniel, b. 1869 Martha Lena Daniel, b. 1871 (twin) Mary Regina Daniel, b. 1871 (twin) Will appreciate any and all help. Dani Haas

Payne, Even in today's time frame, these naming conventions are still used by most families I am a John, son of a John and grandson of a John and this latter, John, was also a grandson of a John and this name in the family goes back to 1750. My wife's nephew is a Richard, grandson of a Richard (my father-in-law) who was also a grandson of a Richard, who was also a grandson of a Richard and this goes way back to Richard GROSVENOR.. My grandson is also a John, grandson of a John (me) and so on. His middle name is also Walker, a name of his great-grandfather, Walker GROSVENOR. My oldest daughter has the middle name, Jane, a female version of John. Our youngest daughter has the middle name, Elizabeth, my grandmother's name. My wife is a Gail, a grand niece of an Abigail. One of our grand daughters is named, Catherine, the name of my wife's 3rd GGM and great grand aunt. My uncle is an Andrew, son of an Andrew and he has a grandson named, Andrew. My uncle's son was named, Thomas, his grandfather's middle name, 1st SGT Robert Thomas ROBINSON of the 26th GA VIR and Tommy's middle name was Andrew, his father and grandfather's name. Another ROBINSON uncle was named, John Dame ROBINSON, "John" from the TOMLINSONS and DAME from the DAMES - my grandmother's family. His oldest son, my first cousin, was also of the same name. Another son of Uncle John was named, Joseph, and he was named for his uncle, a ROBINSON. My TOMLINSONS of Bulloch and Clinch County, GA beat the names, John and William TOMLINSON to death. My ROBINSONS of Wayne and Charlton County, GA used ever name in the book, they needed to since they had so many children but the names of their parents and grandparents were always included in the names of their children and these names in these families roll back to before 1750. Even the RENEAUS beat the name, Russell, to death. I am a 2nd GGS of Russell RENEAU, his son was named Russell RENEAU, my uncle was named, Russell, and my middle name is Russell. What more can I say on family names? For someone to tell me that Thomas DANIEL and Simon DANIEL were sons of an Owen DANIEL, but we never see the name, Owen, ever used again in this family; I am going to say rather quickly -- something is amiss, here. That, did not happen, especially in that time frame. As for Thomas DANIEL who married Elizabeth LANIER. Their oldest son, who was not named for a parent or grandparent, was named, John DANIEL. Where do you think that leads? The oldest name in Simon and Elizabeth's family that I cannot account for was William DANIEL and both he and Thomas had a son named William DANIEL. So, my guess is -- their father was named either William or John and they could well have been brothers and sons of John of IOW. Since we also know that John DANIEL of IOW County, VA was their common ancestor, at least according to most and it is supported in DNA evidence, I would go with one of these two possibilities (John or William DANIEL) as their parents and they were sons of John or IOW County, VA. I also think Simon and Thomas were probably first cousins and not brothers because they just do not roll into the same overall group of families although these families were reasonably "close," as one would suspect cousins to be, they were not close enough for them to be brothers, because they rolled into a slightly different set of families. The names, John and William DANIEL also flow in my bunch, so I suspect I descend probably from this overall DANIEL family. However, there are a few missing links that I have yet to uncover to make that assignment, especially that name, Chesley DANIEL. There are four male given names that flow in my bunch through several critical generations -- William, John, Robert and James and I think they are telling me who my DANIEL ancestors were. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > I never worried about Owens's name and a Owen O'Daniel from Duplin being the > name sake. Historically, Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct, is Owen Daniel. He > is mentioned at the end of the Will of Ann Daniel in the following > statement: ("I find of record in the Virginia Land Registry, Book No. 8, > page 428, a grant of130 acres in the Counties of Isle of Wight and > "Nanzimond," Va., to Owen Daniell in 1695" > > So John, how does the Owen O'Daniel of Duplin have anything historically to > do with Owen Daniel of Chowan Precinct of Albemarle County, North Carolina? > > Payne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:12 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] These are real interesting Duplin County, NC deeds > > > > We have never been able to figure out where the name, Owen DANIEL, > > supposedly the father of Thomas DANIEL and Simon DANIEL, came from. This > > may be a clue... > > > > <<< > > Bk 1A p. 99 STEPHEN BARFIELD to WILLIAM O'DANIEL, both of Duplin Co., 7 > > July 1783, > > line belonging to a survey granted to JESSE BARFIELD by patent dated 1770. > > Wit: OWEN O'DANIEL, FREDERICK BARFIELD. Oct. Ct. 1784. > > > > Bk 1A p. 95 JONATHAN TAYLOR to BENJAMIN HERRING, both of Duplin Co.. 14 > > Oct 1783, patented by sd. TAYLOR 4 May 1769. > > Wit: WILLIAM O'DANIEL, CHARITY HERRING. Oct.ct. 1784. > > > > Bk 4A p. 167 BENJAMIN HERRING SR. to his son BENJAMIN HERRING JR., 2 Nov > > 1808, for "natural love & affection" 229A in 2 pieces to wit: (1) 227A on > > the West of Herring Branch, beg. at a gum & joining CREECH; (2) 2A joining > > the lower corner of the afsd. land on the ES of sd, branch, the 2A for > > privilege for a mill. > > Wit: ALEX O'DANIEL, BENJN. ( X) CREECH. Jan. Ct. 1810. > > > > Bk 4A p. 408 WILLIAM GLISSON to JOHN BLIZARD, both of Duplin Co., 17 Sep > > 1812. > > Wit: HENRY GRADY, ALEX. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > > > Bk 4A p. 409 STEPHEN GUFFORD to JOHN BLIZARD. both of Duplin Co., 3 Mar > > 1810, for > > 172 pds. 10 shill. 120A on the NS of Goshen Swamp, being part of 3 > patents, > > patented > > by JACOB LAWHAUN, WILLIAM GODWIN & JACOB GLISSON, beg. at a water oak > > ALEXANDER O'DANIEL'S corner near the corner of BLIZARD'S field, to a black > > jack not far from STEPHEN GUFFORD'S house & adj. LEWIS GLISSON & GEORGE > F. > > KORNEGAY. > > Wit: WILLIAM KORNEGAY, AL. O'DANIEL. Oct. Ct. 1812. > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > John R. Clarke > > Thomasville, GA > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net >