As I said the dates are a little unreliable. As to the father of Thomas being Owen Daniel, I will embrace any documentation that proves or disproves that connection. I will also embrace any documentation that helps to resolve the hypothetical that have been proposed. Many of my assignments aren't my idea but are from a range of sources and papers from other researchers. I guess the best approach is not to be caught with your feet (positions) firmly planted in mid air, but to be open to documentation that can get to the truth. As usual I will give your thoughts careful consideration. I appreciate your taking the time to share them with us. Oh, if I recall his positions correctly, I believe that Will has the right idea on the Simons. Later, Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Owen Daniel etc. Payne, The only problem I see with this is - the dates for Ann's birth and the dates of Thomas's birth are a little close, even for then. Age 15 is a little young for her to be married and have a child born 1631 means she had to be married at ABT age 14. Such things did happen but not as often as one believes. Regardless of where the Owen name came from, it is not passed on. That, is why I think this Owen may not have been the father of Thomas DANIEL who married Elizabeth LANIER. Maybe Owen did something that caused his name to be held in such disrepute that none of the family ever wanted to use it as a given name, that I do not know. What I do know is that it was not normal for the name of the father not to be passed on in the names of the children of the child but there is not a Owen in sight in this family, anywhere, is there? The John you mentioned and the name, Thomas, is passed on, is it not? Also, this John is basically "out of the blue," too, right? That tells me that a John probably figured in on the ancestry of this DANIEL family, somewhere. One of the problems is Simon. Lew GRIFFIN will be the first to admit that he does not know whether the Simon who married Elizabeth ROGERS was Simon I or Simon II, at least that is what I have in my notes from Lew.. We also do not know whether the Robert DANIEL of Martin County, NC who married Mary SWAIN was a son of Simon or not because this Robert was not listed in the will of Simon DANIEL. Also the children of this Robert DANIEL of Martin have been cobbled into the family of Robert Lanier DANIEL of Pitt County, NC and it has only been recently that we have started to straighten out these two DANIEL families. However, all indications are -- this bunch is out of the same DANIEL family but there are still a few mysteries to be uncovered in this bunch, I'm sure. One of the things that makes me wonder about this bunch is the Beverley and if my DANIEL bunch is a part of this overall family, the Chesley name in my bunch. As we know, these are not given names normally found in the IOW Daniel family. Maybe you have some information on a possibly connection between the Middlesex DANIELS, especially those found in Granville County, NC, and those DANIELS found in Pitt, Martin, Edgecombe, Dobbs and Johnston County areas of NC. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Owen Daniel etc. > Just a thought. The name Owen appears in the early records for Ann Jones > Daniel of England the mother of Thomas Daniel of IOW. The records suggest > that Ann married a John Daniel first. After John Daniel's death, Anne > married a cousin (Jones) and that her maiden name was also "Jones". A > church > rector thinks that she was a daughter of "Owen Jones". (not proven) Her > Baptism is recorded as such on the 14th of April 1616 at the Parish of St. > Katherine By The Tower, Middlesex, England. Unfortunately, as John says > sometimes, the dates for all these folks are "cobbled up". (so, was Ann > born > in 1616 or was she born before 1630?) > > I would like to further suggest that Linda Scotts Roger Jones, born 1642, > is > the brother of Ann Jones Daniel; however, that would not make her the > daughter of Owen Jones? The fact is that the names Roger, Owen, Thomas, > and > John, extend back to England. > > It is Nye on to impossible to connect some of these folks because of their > dates of birth as shown in Latter Day Saints Ancestral Files. It is fun to > try though. > > Have a nice weekend ya'll. Payne > "That you may retain your self-respect, it is better to > displease the people by doing what you know is right, > than to temporarily please them by doing what you know > is wrong." > -- William J. H. Boetcker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Stephen Daniel DNA > > > Lucy, > I have a pretty good idea where they come from -- The William DANIEL > and > Rebecca LNU family of Edgecombe County, NC. but I do not have a good > picture of this family and much of it is confusing. William was the son > of > Simon DANIEL and Elizabeth ROGERS of Edgecombe. > We know that when William DANIEL born ABT 1722, died in 1789, his wife > was a Rebecca but some say he also married a Sarah WILLIS, d/o William > WILLIS of Edgecombe County, NC. In his will it states his daughter, Mary > DANIEL, was a Mrs. ANDREWS and they had children named Clara and Cullen > ANDREWS. I have the record for Cullen ANDREWS and it says he was married > to > a Mary BATTLE. Maybe she married a BATTLE and then ANDREWS, that I do not > know. What I do know is there are BATTLES on the estate of William DANIEL > so this seems to match these to bits of information up, to some degree. > The marriage to Rebecca may have been a December marriage, as often > happened back then and Sarah WILLIS may have been the mother of these > DANIEL > kids. I also know they had both a Robert and David DANIEL but no William, > Jr. is listed in the estate of William DANIEL of Edgecombe. > I know Payne disagrees, but I think William DANIEL who married Pricilla > ANDREWS was out of the Simon DANIEL family and not the T&E DANIEL family. > The reason being is all of the close connections in this bunch in > Edgecombe > and none of them seem to be in the family of Robert Lanier DANIEL of Pitt > so > my guess is that he was a son of Robert DANIEL and Mary SWAIN and not RLD > and Jemima or UNK, because Pricilla's brother, Warren Daniel ANDREWS, b: > 1765 in Pitt County,North Carolina Death: 22 Jun 1833 in Martin Co., NC > married Barshelba GAINER b: 1767 in Pitt County,North Carolina Married: > 1790 > the daughter of Joseph GAINER b: 1725 in Beaufort co. N.C and Susanna > SWAIN b: in Beaufort co. N.C. > I also know the GAINERS are found all around my bunch in Washington > County, GA in a latter time frame. Joseph GAINER was the brother of > William > GAINER (1758-1800) who married Martha WILLIAMS and they moved to > Davisboro, > Washington County, GA. Sisters Mary GAINER married a WHITLEY and sister, > Elizabeth GAINER, married a GRIFFIN. > Not to over look that David DANIEL who was a son of William DANIEL and > either Sarah WILLIS or Rebecca, and we know that Stephen DANIEL married > one > of the IRWIN girls at his uncle David's house. This tells me the area but > not the exact line since a William DANIEL (b. ABT 1760) is not listed in > the > estate of this William DANIEL but he sure matches the time frame to be a > son > of this William DANIEL. > So, Lucy, your William DANIEL could have been out of this family or > even > a son of one of his brothers. Maybe even Robert DANIEL and his wife, Mary > SWAIN because there is all kinds of loopholes in this bunch, too. > However, > we already know he was from the IOW bunch and this looks like the right > area > to concentrate your research on - somewhere in the Simon DANIEL and > Elizabeth ROGERS family of Edgecombe...... > > > Source: Estate Records of Edgecombe County, NC, 1730--1820, by Joseph W. > Watson: > DANIEL,, WILLIAM, inventory taken by Rebecca Daniel, admrx., May 2, 1789, > May Ct. 1789, Account of sale by Jacob Battle, Sheriff, June 9, 1789, Aug. > Ct. 1789, Account of sale of the remainder., Aug. 29, 1789. Rebecca Daniel > was the principal buyer and David Daniel and Lemuel Daniel bought. Proved > by > the exr. of Robt. Diggs, Feb. Ct. 1790, Additional account of sale at > which > Martha Daniel also bought. Additional inventory taken by the admrx., Feb. > Ct. 1790, Division of lands by commissioners among his three sons, to wit, > David Daniel, the eldest, Wright Daniel, and Robt. Daniel, Sept. 20, 1789, > Aug. Ct. 1790. Additional inventory returned by the admrx., May Ct. 1791, > Additional inventory returned by the admrx., Aug. 30, 1791, Account > current > stated that five sales were held, Aug. Ct. 1791, Division of money arising > from the estate among the heirs., namely, Rebeccah Daniel., widow of said > decd.; Mary Farmer, daughter; Clara Andrews and Cullen Andrews, children > of > Delana Andrews, a daughter; Clara Robertson., daughter; David Daniel, son; > Martha Daniel, daughter; Edey Daniel, daughter; Wright Daniel, son; Robert > Daniel, son; Catron Daniel., daughter; Elizabeth Daniel, daughter; and > Obedience Daniel, daughter, Feb. 1792, Feb. Ct. 1792. > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lucy Gray" <Lucygray1@cox.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:40 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Stephen Daniel DNA > > >> The Stephen Daniel line was notified today they are an exact match with >> the Josiah Daniel line ( son of the William Daniel b 1760/70), the Gerald >> Daniel line and the Simeon Daniel line. >> >> Now if we could find the fathers of these men it would great! >> >> Lucy Gray >> >> >> ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== >> IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives >> at: >> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >> >> > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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I have no opinion on the rest of this speculation, but Harmon Mayo is most definitely a Mayo, not a Moye. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Pitt County NC DANIELS > Mike, > A couple of things. > > I do not carry Adam ALBRITTON as the husband of one of John CASON's > daughters. I show that Eleanor CASON married James ALBRITTON, Jr on 16 Aug > 1791 in Pitt County, NC. James married, first, a Mary ARNETT, and she must > have died before 1791. > In 1791 Eleanor would have been ABT 30-40 so she could have married an > Adam ALBRITTON before marrying James, that I do not know but I also do not > show an Adam as a brother of James ALBRITTON.. I do show that she had James > had three children, Luke, Samuel and Thomas ALBRITTON. However, I think > something is amiss in all of this and I do not know quite what it is. > > As for Eleanor CASON, she was not born until ABT the 1760 time frame. > In 1790, Thomas has one free white male over 16 and one under 16. That, is > a big spread to work with. One, we do not know when Thomas was born, do we? > Some say ABT 1740 and others say ABT 1760. Since most of RLD's kids were > born in the 1740-1760 time frame, this makes sense. > We could be seeing two Thomas DANIELS, one about age 50 in 1790 or one > about age 30 in 1790, with this last one the more plausible sine he had a > kid under age 16. That puts his DOB in the 1760 time frame, well within the > range of kids for RLD. > Personally, I think RLD was born much later than most folks think. I > think he was born closer to 1730 than the 1718 date often listed for him. > This then makes sense that his mother was playing match maker for him with > the Jemima in 1752 and why his kids were born in the post 1750 time frame. > This matches up with his father who lived to be about age 65 and since we > know he died in 1794 then this gives him a DOB of ABT 1730, which matches, > does it not? > > I do not know who this Fnu CASON married. I do have the names of her > sister's (Rachel CASON) children and none of the given names you listed are > in them which tells me that if these were her children, they did not use > CASON given names in this family. > The one name I instantly recognized was the name Luke, a name from this > ALBRITTON family. That is a WHITFIELD given name. Maybe she was a > WHITFIELD because this family is collateral with the DANIELS. > As for MAYO, I kind of doubt that. MOYE is the family all over this > bunch but maybe this MAYO is a cobbled up version of MOYE. There is also > some information that MAY may well have been MAYO at some point and this may > be where this came from and we also know the MAYS are collateral with this > bunch. There are four names that always travel in the same circles in Pitt > County -- MOORE, MOYE, CASON and CANNON. That is the names I look for > around this bunch if I see one of these names around a particular family... > However, we have to go back to that 1779 Pitt County, NC complaint by > Col. James ARMSTRONG against Robert DANIEL, Jr. because I think it is > relevant. In that complaint, it states that Little Robert had to get rid of > the slave because Hillary CASON was coming to dinner. Hillary was John's > brother and it has to be that Robert's DANEL family that is tied to the > CASONS. I just do not know the final disposition of that complaint and if I > did I would know who that Robert DANIEL, Jr. was. Regardless, I think it > was his father who was married to this CASON girl and Little Robert was > worried that his uncle, Hillary CASON, would see the slave there and tell > his father. > Let's assume that Little Robert was age 15-20 in 1779, am age all of us > got into trouble of some degree or another, which puts his DOB in the same > range we have for the children of RLD, does it not? I think RLD had two > wives. One may well have been Jemima, whomever, and the second was the > CASON girl. This also accounts for all of the young kids he has on his > census record of 1790. > Then again, it could be a completely different DANIEL family that were > the parents of this Little Robert. That, I do not know but what I am pretty > sure of -- his uncle was Hillary CASON. There are just too many questions, > here..... > > That, is my opinion on this matter. > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Runforf471@aol.com> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:29 PM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Pitt County NC DANIELS > > > > Was Thomas DANIEL, son of Robert Lanier DANIEL, the son-in-law of John > > CASON > > and father of John's grandson Robert DANIEL? I think a good argument can > > be > > made for it. > > > > There is no question that Thomas married a Delilah LNU and left her as a > > widow in 1818. Thomas DANIEL was listed as deceased in Oct 1818 in a deed > > granting his widow Delila 600 acres dower. It is not clear to me who > > Delila's father > > is but she jointly transfers some property in 1818 with Harmon Mayo and > > Luke > > WARD (who married Lavinia MAYO). It appears this property may have been > > from > > the estate of John MAYO. There was also a distribution of Thomas's lands > > in > > 1821 as follows: > > > > CC65 11-9-1821 Thomas DANIEL, Dec. to Media DANIEL, heir, John DANIEL, > > heir, > > Rufus W. DANIEL, heir, Thomas DANIEL, heir, Susan DANIEL, heir, James > > DANIEL, > > heir, Sabria DANIEL, heir Division of land: 277 1/2 A to Media; 284 A to > > John, > > 284 A including house and plantation to Rufus W.; 123 A to Thomas; 277 A > > to > > Susan, daughter of Robert DANIEL, dec.; 190 A to James; 150 A to Sabria. > > Former owner Robert Lanier DANIEL (Pat. 1782). > > > > It is clear that Thomas had a son Robert and it is clear to me that Robert > > was born long before Thomas married Delila. On 1790 Census Thomas DANIEL > > one > > male (self) over 16, 1 under 16 and 2 slaves, no females in household > > living > > adjacent to Lanier and Robert (probably RLD their Pap; he listed 15 > > slaves) and > > Calston (Colson) ADAMS (maried John Cason's daughter Rachel) and five > > houses > > from John CASON. > > > > On 1800 Census Thomas lists 1 male 10-16, 1 male 16-26 and self, again no > > females in household, and 4 slaves. > > > > On 1810 census a Robert Daniel 16-26 appears with one female 16-26 and 4 > > slaves. Two houses down is Thomas with 3 males under 10, one male 45+, one > > female > > 45+ and five slaves. 1810 also shows another Thomas with 3 males under > > 10, 1 > > male 26-44, 1 female 26-45 and 4 slaves. This second Thomas lives 8 > > houses > > down from Lanier also listed as 26-44. I can't explain the two Thomas's > > but > > either now have a female in the household and several little persons. > > > > On the 1820 census "Della" DANIEL female 26-45 listed 2 males 0-10, 2 > > 10-16, > > 1 16-18, 1 16-26, 1 female 0-10, 1 female 26-45 and seven slaves living > > next > > to "Willa" DANIEL (believe its Willie, Thomas's brother) and John & Leven > > James. Leven sold his property in 1827 and deed listed the property as > > adjacent > > to "Thomas DANIEL heirs & Willey DANIEL". I think this has to be Delila. > > Both Thomas & Robert are gone in 1820. > > > > Thomas also deeded 175 acres to Robert on 2-9-1810 and although it wasn't > > described as a deed of gift no apparent money was exchanged. This deed > > was > > witnessed by Adam ALBRITON, a son-in-law of John CASON, and a Luke > > ALBRITON. > > > > I wonder if this Robert may have been the Robert of the slave stealing > > incident. If so, his "Live fast, die young and have a good looking > > corpse" > > philosophy appears to have worked. > > > > Mike Daniel > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > > > > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >

Yes, but that William DANIEL died in Emanuel County, GA in 1831. At least his estate was settled by John Raven DANIEL in 1831 in Emanuel County, GA and this William DANIEL was married to an Elizabeth, as I remember. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucy Gray" <Lucygray1@cox.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Dorchester County, MD wills > John, > > Wasn't one of the sons of the William Daniel in Emanuel CO, GA named John > Raven? > > Lucy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John R. Clarke > To: DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:59 PM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Dorchester County, MD wills > > > Good Evening, > Notice the LILLINGTON name. A LILLINGTON family is also tied to the > ALSTONS of Chowan County, NC in a later time frame. Notice also the > Thomas > DANIELL name. I also found the HATTONS sitting in Somerset County, MD and > many of the families in Somerset have links back and forth between > Somerset > and Dorchester. > Even more interesting is John RAVEN who moved with his family to > Dorchester County, MD in 1672. My LANES may also be part of the Walter > LANE, Sr. family, also of Somerset County, MD. We already know where the > CALLOWAYS were from -- Somerset County, MD. All of this is very, very > interesting...... > > <<< > Daniell, Thomas, Dorchester Co., 22nd Aug., 1685; 3rd Apr., 1686. To son > Thomas and hrs., 200 A., "St. Bartholomew's." To son William and hrs., > sd. > plantation in event of death of son Thomas without issue; also 100 A., > "Daniell's Security," and 150 A., "Daniell's Hillrion." To wife Jane, > extx., > 190 A., "Daniells's Ell." To John North, personalty. Overseers: Anguish > Murrow, Wm. Fisher. Test: Anguish Murrow, Wm. Fisher. 4. 264. Thompson, > Zachariah, Talbot Co., 26th Jan., 1684; 16th Nov., 1686. To wife > Priscilla, > extx., and hrs., entire estate, real and personal. Overseer: Jno. Lewis, > Sr. > Test: Jno. Lillington, Thos, Burrous, Ellinor Punger. 4. 264. > >>> > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of > messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families > or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are > not allowed on this list. > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > the subject of a reply message. > >

Mike, A couple of things. I do not carry Adam ALBRITTON as the husband of one of John CASON's daughters. I show that Eleanor CASON married James ALBRITTON, Jr on 16 Aug 1791 in Pitt County, NC. James married, first, a Mary ARNETT, and she must have died before 1791. In 1791 Eleanor would have been ABT 30-40 so she could have married an Adam ALBRITTON before marrying James, that I do not know but I also do not show an Adam as a brother of James ALBRITTON.. I do show that she had James had three children, Luke, Samuel and Thomas ALBRITTON. However, I think something is amiss in all of this and I do not know quite what it is. As for Eleanor CASON, she was not born until ABT the 1760 time frame. In 1790, Thomas has one free white male over 16 and one under 16. That, is a big spread to work with. One, we do not know when Thomas was born, do we? Some say ABT 1740 and others say ABT 1760. Since most of RLD's kids were born in the 1740-1760 time frame, this makes sense. We could be seeing two Thomas DANIELS, one about age 50 in 1790 or one about age 30 in 1790, with this last one the more plausible sine he had a kid under age 16. That puts his DOB in the 1760 time frame, well within the range of kids for RLD. Personally, I think RLD was born much later than most folks think. I think he was born closer to 1730 than the 1718 date often listed for him. This then makes sense that his mother was playing match maker for him with the Jemima in 1752 and why his kids were born in the post 1750 time frame. This matches up with his father who lived to be about age 65 and since we know he died in 1794 then this gives him a DOB of ABT 1730, which matches, does it not? I do not know who this Fnu CASON married. I do have the names of her sister's (Rachel CASON) children and none of the given names you listed are in them which tells me that if these were her children, they did not use CASON given names in this family. The one name I instantly recognized was the name Luke, a name from this ALBRITTON family. That is a WHITFIELD given name. Maybe she was a WHITFIELD because this family is collateral with the DANIELS. As for MAYO, I kind of doubt that. MOYE is the family all over this bunch but maybe this MAYO is a cobbled up version of MOYE. There is also some information that MAY may well have been MAYO at some point and this may be where this came from and we also know the MAYS are collateral with this bunch. There are four names that always travel in the same circles in Pitt County -- MOORE, MOYE, CASON and CANNON. That is the names I look for around this bunch if I see one of these names around a particular family... However, we have to go back to that 1779 Pitt County, NC complaint by Col. James ARMSTRONG against Robert DANIEL, Jr. because I think it is relevant. In that complaint, it states that Little Robert had to get rid of the slave because Hillary CASON was coming to dinner. Hillary was John's brother and it has to be that Robert's DANEL family that is tied to the CASONS. I just do not know the final disposition of that complaint and if I did I would know who that Robert DANIEL, Jr. was. Regardless, I think it was his father who was married to this CASON girl and Little Robert was worried that his uncle, Hillary CASON, would see the slave there and tell his father. Let's assume that Little Robert was age 15-20 in 1779, am age all of us got into trouble of some degree or another, which puts his DOB in the same range we have for the children of RLD, does it not? I think RLD had two wives. One may well have been Jemima, whomever, and the second was the CASON girl. This also accounts for all of the young kids he has on his census record of 1790. Then again, it could be a completely different DANIEL family that were the parents of this Little Robert. That, I do not know but what I am pretty sure of -- his uncle was Hillary CASON. There are just too many questions, here..... That, is my opinion on this matter. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:29 PM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Pitt County NC DANIELS > Was Thomas DANIEL, son of Robert Lanier DANIEL, the son-in-law of John > CASON > and father of John's grandson Robert DANIEL? I think a good argument can > be > made for it. > > There is no question that Thomas married a Delilah LNU and left her as a > widow in 1818. Thomas DANIEL was listed as deceased in Oct 1818 in a deed > granting his widow Delila 600 acres dower. It is not clear to me who > Delila's father > is but she jointly transfers some property in 1818 with Harmon Mayo and > Luke > WARD (who married Lavinia MAYO). It appears this property may have been > from > the estate of John MAYO. There was also a distribution of Thomas's lands > in > 1821 as follows: > > CC65 11-9-1821 Thomas DANIEL, Dec. to Media DANIEL, heir, John DANIEL, > heir, > Rufus W. DANIEL, heir, Thomas DANIEL, heir, Susan DANIEL, heir, James > DANIEL, > heir, Sabria DANIEL, heir Division of land: 277 1/2 A to Media; 284 A to > John, > 284 A including house and plantation to Rufus W.; 123 A to Thomas; 277 A > to > Susan, daughter of Robert DANIEL, dec.; 190 A to James; 150 A to Sabria. > Former owner Robert Lanier DANIEL (Pat. 1782). > > It is clear that Thomas had a son Robert and it is clear to me that Robert > was born long before Thomas married Delila. On 1790 Census Thomas DANIEL > one > male (self) over 16, 1 under 16 and 2 slaves, no females in household > living > adjacent to Lanier and Robert (probably RLD their Pap; he listed 15 > slaves) and > Calston (Colson) ADAMS (maried John Cason's daughter Rachel) and five > houses > from John CASON. > > On 1800 Census Thomas lists 1 male 10-16, 1 male 16-26 and self, again no > females in household, and 4 slaves. > > On 1810 census a Robert Daniel 16-26 appears with one female 16-26 and 4 > slaves. Two houses down is Thomas with 3 males under 10, one male 45+, one > female > 45+ and five slaves. 1810 also shows another Thomas with 3 males under > 10, 1 > male 26-44, 1 female 26-45 and 4 slaves. This second Thomas lives 8 > houses > down from Lanier also listed as 26-44. I can't explain the two Thomas's > but > either now have a female in the household and several little persons. > > On the 1820 census "Della" DANIEL female 26-45 listed 2 males 0-10, 2 > 10-16, > 1 16-18, 1 16-26, 1 female 0-10, 1 female 26-45 and seven slaves living > next > to "Willa" DANIEL (believe its Willie, Thomas's brother) and John & Leven > James. Leven sold his property in 1827 and deed listed the property as > adjacent > to "Thomas DANIEL heirs & Willey DANIEL". I think this has to be Delila. > Both Thomas & Robert are gone in 1820. > > Thomas also deeded 175 acres to Robert on 2-9-1810 and although it wasn't > described as a deed of gift no apparent money was exchanged. This deed > was > witnessed by Adam ALBRITON, a son-in-law of John CASON, and a Luke > ALBRITON. > > I wonder if this Robert may have been the Robert of the slave stealing > incident. If so, his "Live fast, die young and have a good looking > corpse" > philosophy appears to have worked. > > Mike Daniel > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > >

John, Wasn't one of the sons of the William Daniel in Emanuel CO, GA named John Raven? Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: John R. Clarke To: DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Dorchester County, MD wills Good Evening, Notice the LILLINGTON name. A LILLINGTON family is also tied to the ALSTONS of Chowan County, NC in a later time frame. Notice also the Thomas DANIELL name. I also found the HATTONS sitting in Somerset County, MD and many of the families in Somerset have links back and forth between Somerset and Dorchester. Even more interesting is John RAVEN who moved with his family to Dorchester County, MD in 1672. My LANES may also be part of the Walter LANE, Sr. family, also of Somerset County, MD. We already know where the CALLOWAYS were from -- Somerset County, MD. All of this is very, very interesting...... <<< Daniell, Thomas, Dorchester Co., 22nd Aug., 1685; 3rd Apr., 1686. To son Thomas and hrs., 200 A., "St. Bartholomew's." To son William and hrs., sd. plantation in event of death of son Thomas without issue; also 100 A., "Daniell's Security," and 150 A., "Daniell's Hillrion." To wife Jane, extx., 190 A., "Daniells's Ell." To John North, personalty. Overseers: Anguish Murrow, Wm. Fisher. Test: Anguish Murrow, Wm. Fisher. 4. 264. Thompson, Zachariah, Talbot Co., 26th Jan., 1684; 16th Nov., 1686. To wife Priscilla, extx., and hrs., entire estate, real and personal. Overseer: Jno. Lewis, Sr. Test: Jno. Lillington, Thos, Burrous, Ellinor Punger. 4. 264. >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== DO NOT FORGET: This is a Genealogical Mailing List and the posting of messages that do not relate to the DANIEL Family, its collateral families or those of a historical nature relating to genealogical research -- are not allowed on this list.

John, I had an ancestor who was not named in her father's will on my Currie line. We later found she had already received her part of her father's estate. Maybe William had already received his portion of his father's estate and moved on south. I really do appreciate your working with the line. As far as I know we don't have anyone else from the Jackson CO, FL lines to take the test. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: John R. Clarke To: DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Stephen Daniel DNA Lucy, I have a pretty good idea where they come from -- The William DANIEL and Rebecca LNU family of Edgecombe County, NC. but I do not have a good picture of this family and much of it is confusing. William was the son of Simon DANIEL and Elizabeth ROGERS of Edgecombe. We know that when William DANIEL born ABT 1722, died in 1789, his wife was a Rebecca but some say he also married a Sarah WILLIS, d/o William WILLIS of Edgecombe County, NC. In his will it states his daughter, Mary DANIEL, was a Mrs. ANDREWS and they had children named Clara and Cullen ANDREWS. I have the record for Cullen ANDREWS and it says he was married to a Mary BATTLE. Maybe she married a BATTLE and then ANDREWS, that I do not know. What I do know is there are BATTLES on the estate of William DANIEL so this seems to match these to bits of information up, to some degree. The marriage to Rebecca may have been a December marriage, as often happened back then and Sarah WILLIS may have been the mother of these DANIEL kids. I also know they had both a Robert and David DANIEL but no William, Jr. is listed in the estate of William DANIEL of Edgecombe. I know Payne disagrees, but I think William DANIEL who married Pricilla ANDREWS was out of the Simon DANIEL family and not the T&E DANIEL family. The reason being is all of the close connections in this bunch in Edgecombe and none of them seem to be in the family of Robert Lanier DANIEL of Pitt so my guess is that he was a son of Robert DANIEL and Mary SWAIN and not RLD and Jemima or UNK, because Pricilla's brother, Warren Daniel ANDREWS, b: 1765 in Pitt County,North Carolina Death: 22 Jun 1833 in Martin Co., NC married Barshelba GAINER b: 1767 in Pitt County,North Carolina Married: 1790 the daughter of Joseph GAINER b: 1725 in Beaufort co. N.C and Susanna SWAIN b: in Beaufort co. N.C. I also know the GAINERS are found all around my bunch in Washington County, GA in a latter time frame. Joseph GAINER was the brother of William GAINER (1758-1800) who married Martha WILLIAMS and they moved to Davisboro, Washington County, GA. Sisters Mary GAINER married a WHITLEY and sister, Elizabeth GAINER, married a GRIFFIN. Not to over look that David DANIEL who was a son of William DANIEL and either Sarah WILLIS or Rebecca, and we know that Stephen DANIEL married one of the IRWIN girls at his uncle David's house. This tells me the area but not the exact line since a William DANIEL (b. ABT 1760) is not listed in the estate of this William DANIEL but he sure matches the time frame to be a son of this William DANIEL. So, Lucy, your William DANIEL could have been out of this family or even a son of one of his brothers. Maybe even Robert DANIEL and his wife, Mary SWAIN because there is all kinds of loopholes in this bunch, too. However, we already know he was from the IOW bunch and this looks like the right area to concentrate your research on - somewhere in the Simon DANIEL and Elizabeth ROGERS family of Edgecombe...... Source: Estate Records of Edgecombe County, NC, 1730--1820, by Joseph W. Watson: DANIEL,, WILLIAM, inventory taken by Rebecca Daniel, admrx., May 2, 1789, May Ct. 1789, Account of sale by Jacob Battle, Sheriff, June 9, 1789, Aug. Ct. 1789, Account of sale of the remainder., Aug. 29, 1789. Rebecca Daniel was the principal buyer and David Daniel and Lemuel Daniel bought. Proved by the exr. of Robt. Diggs, Feb. Ct. 1790, Additional account of sale at which Martha Daniel also bought. Additional inventory taken by the admrx., Feb. Ct. 1790, Division of lands by commissioners among his three sons, to wit, David Daniel, the eldest, Wright Daniel, and Robt. Daniel, Sept. 20, 1789, Aug. Ct. 1790. Additional inventory returned by the admrx., May Ct. 1791, Additional inventory returned by the admrx., Aug. 30, 1791, Account current stated that five sales were held, Aug. Ct. 1791, Division of money arising from the estate among the heirs., namely, Rebeccah Daniel., widow of said decd.; Mary Farmer, daughter; Clara Andrews and Cullen Andrews, children of Delana Andrews, a daughter; Clara Robertson., daughter; David Daniel, son; Martha Daniel, daughter; Edey Daniel, daughter; Wright Daniel, son; Robert Daniel, son; Catron Daniel., daughter; Elizabeth Daniel, daughter; and Obedience Daniel, daughter, Feb. 1792, Feb. Ct. 1792. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucy Gray" <Lucygray1@cox.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Stephen Daniel DNA > The Stephen Daniel line was notified today they are an exact match with > the Josiah Daniel line ( son of the William Daniel b 1760/70), the Gerald > Daniel line and the Simeon Daniel line. > > Now if we could find the fathers of these men it would great! > > Lucy Gray > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe Click on the following link and your message is ready to send Mail Mode: mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe or- Digest Mode: mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe

Payne, The only problem I see with this is - the dates for Ann's birth and the dates of Thomas's birth are a little close, even for then. Age 15 is a little young for her to be married and have a child born 1631 means she had to be married at ABT age 14. Such things did happen but not as often as one believes. Regardless of where the Owen name came from, it is not passed on. That, is why I think this Owen may not have been the father of Thomas DANIEL who married Elizabeth LANIER. Maybe Owen did something that caused his name to be held in such disrepute that none of the family ever wanted to use it as a given name, that I do not know. What I do know is that it was not normal for the name of the father not to be passed on in the names of the children of the child but there is not a Owen in sight in this family, anywhere, is there? The John you mentioned and the name, Thomas, is passed on, is it not? Also, this John is basically "out of the blue," too, right? That tells me that a John probably figured in on the ancestry of this DANIEL family, somewhere. One of the problems is Simon. Lew GRIFFIN will be the first to admit that he does not know whether the Simon who married Elizabeth ROGERS was Simon I or Simon II, at least that is what I have in my notes from Lew.. We also do not know whether the Robert DANIEL of Martin County, NC who married Mary SWAIN was a son of Simon or not because this Robert was not listed in the will of Simon DANIEL. Also the children of this Robert DANIEL of Martin have been cobbled into the family of Robert Lanier DANIEL of Pitt County, NC and it has only been recently that we have started to straighten out these two DANIEL families. However, all indications are -- this bunch is out of the same DANIEL family but there are still a few mysteries to be uncovered in this bunch, I'm sure. One of the things that makes me wonder about this bunch is the Beverley and if my DANIEL bunch is a part of this overall family, the Chesley name in my bunch. As we know, these are not given names normally found in the IOW Daniel family. Maybe you have some information on a possibly connection between the Middlesex DANIELS, especially those found in Granville County, NC, and those DANIELS found in Pitt, Martin, Edgecombe, Dobbs and Johnston County areas of NC. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Payne Daniel" <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Owen Daniel etc. > Just a thought. The name Owen appears in the early records for Ann Jones > Daniel of England the mother of Thomas Daniel of IOW. The records suggest > that Ann married a John Daniel first. After John Daniel's death, Anne > married a cousin (Jones) and that her maiden name was also "Jones". A > church > rector thinks that she was a daughter of "Owen Jones". (not proven) Her > Baptism is recorded as such on the 14th of April 1616 at the Parish of St. > Katherine By The Tower, Middlesex, England. Unfortunately, as John says > sometimes, the dates for all these folks are "cobbled up". (so, was Ann > born > in 1616 or was she born before 1630?) > > I would like to further suggest that Linda Scotts Roger Jones, born 1642, > is > the brother of Ann Jones Daniel; however, that would not make her the > daughter of Owen Jones? The fact is that the names Roger, Owen, Thomas, > and > John, extend back to England. > > It is Nye on to impossible to connect some of these folks because of their > dates of birth as shown in Latter Day Saints Ancestral Files. It is fun to > try though. > > Have a nice weekend ya'll. Payne > "That you may retain your self-respect, it is better to > displease the people by doing what you know is right, > than to temporarily please them by doing what you know > is wrong." > -- William J. H. Boetcker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Stephen Daniel DNA > > > Lucy, > I have a pretty good idea where they come from -- The William DANIEL > and > Rebecca LNU family of Edgecombe County, NC. but I do not have a good > picture of this family and much of it is confusing. William was the son > of > Simon DANIEL and Elizabeth ROGERS of Edgecombe. > We know that when William DANIEL born ABT 1722, died in 1789, his wife > was a Rebecca but some say he also married a Sarah WILLIS, d/o William > WILLIS of Edgecombe County, NC. In his will it states his daughter, Mary > DANIEL, was a Mrs. ANDREWS and they had children named Clara and Cullen > ANDREWS. I have the record for Cullen ANDREWS and it says he was married > to > a Mary BATTLE. Maybe she married a BATTLE and then ANDREWS, that I do not > know. What I do know is there are BATTLES on the estate of William DANIEL > so this seems to match these to bits of information up, to some degree. > The marriage to Rebecca may have been a December marriage, as often > happened back then and Sarah WILLIS may have been the mother of these > DANIEL > kids. I also know they had both a Robert and David DANIEL but no William, > Jr. is listed in the estate of William DANIEL of Edgecombe. > I know Payne disagrees, but I think William DANIEL who married Pricilla > ANDREWS was out of the Simon DANIEL family and not the T&E DANIEL family. > The reason being is all of the close connections in this bunch in > Edgecombe > and none of them seem to be in the family of Robert Lanier DANIEL of Pitt > so > my guess is that he was a son of Robert DANIEL and Mary SWAIN and not RLD > and Jemima or UNK, because Pricilla's brother, Warren Daniel ANDREWS, b: > 1765 in Pitt County,North Carolina Death: 22 Jun 1833 in Martin Co., NC > married Barshelba GAINER b: 1767 in Pitt County,North Carolina Married: > 1790 > the daughter of Joseph GAINER b: 1725 in Beaufort co. N.C and Susanna > SWAIN b: in Beaufort co. N.C. > I also know the GAINERS are found all around my bunch in Washington > County, GA in a latter time frame. Joseph GAINER was the brother of > William > GAINER (1758-1800) who married Martha WILLIAMS and they moved to > Davisboro, > Washington County, GA. Sisters Mary GAINER married a WHITLEY and sister, > Elizabeth GAINER, married a GRIFFIN. > Not to over look that David DANIEL who was a son of William DANIEL and > either Sarah WILLIS or Rebecca, and we know that Stephen DANIEL married > one > of the IRWIN girls at his uncle David's house. This tells me the area but > not the exact line since a William DANIEL (b. ABT 1760) is not listed in > the > estate of this William DANIEL but he sure matches the time frame to be a > son > of this William DANIEL. > So, Lucy, your William DANIEL could have been out of this family or > even > a son of one of his brothers. Maybe even Robert DANIEL and his wife, Mary > SWAIN because there is all kinds of loopholes in this bunch, too. > However, > we already know he was from the IOW bunch and this looks like the right > area > to concentrate your research on - somewhere in the Simon DANIEL and > Elizabeth ROGERS family of Edgecombe...... > > > Source: Estate Records of Edgecombe County, NC, 1730--1820, by Joseph W. > Watson: > DANIEL,, WILLIAM, inventory taken by Rebecca Daniel, admrx., May 2, 1789, > May Ct. 1789, Account of sale by Jacob Battle, Sheriff, June 9, 1789, Aug. > Ct. 1789, Account of sale of the remainder., Aug. 29, 1789. Rebecca Daniel > was the principal buyer and David Daniel and Lemuel Daniel bought. Proved > by > the exr. of Robt. Diggs, Feb. Ct. 1790, Additional account of sale at > which > Martha Daniel also bought. Additional inventory taken by the admrx., Feb. > Ct. 1790, Division of lands by commissioners among his three sons, to wit, > David Daniel, the eldest, Wright Daniel, and Robt. Daniel, Sept. 20, 1789, > Aug. Ct. 1790. Additional inventory returned by the admrx., May Ct. 1791, > Additional inventory returned by the admrx., Aug. 30, 1791, Account > current > stated that five sales were held, Aug. Ct. 1791, Division of money arising > from the estate among the heirs., namely, Rebeccah Daniel., widow of said > decd.; Mary Farmer, daughter; Clara Andrews and Cullen Andrews, children > of > Delana Andrews, a daughter; Clara Robertson., daughter; David Daniel, son; > Martha Daniel, daughter; Edey Daniel, daughter; Wright Daniel, son; Robert > Daniel, son; Catron Daniel., daughter; Elizabeth Daniel, daughter; and > Obedience Daniel, daughter, Feb. 1792, Feb. Ct. 1792. > > > John R. Clarke > Thomasville, GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lucy Gray" <Lucygray1@cox.net> > To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:40 AM > Subject: [DANIEL-L] Stephen Daniel DNA > > >> The Stephen Daniel line was notified today they are an exact match with >> the Josiah Daniel line ( son of the William Daniel b 1760/70), the Gerald >> Daniel line and the Simeon Daniel line. >> >> Now if we could find the fathers of these men it would great! >> >> Lucy Gray >> >> >> ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== >> IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives >> at: >> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL >> >> > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Was Thomas DANIEL, son of Robert Lanier DANIEL, the son-in-law of John CASON and father of John's grandson Robert DANIEL? I think a good argument can be made for it. There is no question that Thomas married a Delilah LNU and left her as a widow in 1818. Thomas DANIEL was listed as deceased in Oct 1818 in a deed granting his widow Delila 600 acres dower. It is not clear to me who Delila's father is but she jointly transfers some property in 1818 with Harmon Mayo and Luke WARD (who married Lavinia MAYO). It appears this property may have been from the estate of John MAYO. There was also a distribution of Thomas's lands in 1821 as follows: CC65 11-9-1821 Thomas DANIEL, Dec. to Media DANIEL, heir, John DANIEL, heir, Rufus W. DANIEL, heir, Thomas DANIEL, heir, Susan DANIEL, heir, James DANIEL, heir, Sabria DANIEL, heir Division of land: 277 1/2 A to Media; 284 A to John, 284 A including house and plantation to Rufus W.; 123 A to Thomas; 277 A to Susan, daughter of Robert DANIEL, dec.; 190 A to James; 150 A to Sabria. Former owner Robert Lanier DANIEL (Pat. 1782). It is clear that Thomas had a son Robert and it is clear to me that Robert was born long before Thomas married Delila. On 1790 Census Thomas DANIEL one male (self) over 16, 1 under 16 and 2 slaves, no females in household living adjacent to Lanier and Robert (probably RLD their Pap; he listed 15 slaves) and Calston (Colson) ADAMS (maried John Cason's daughter Rachel) and five houses from John CASON. On 1800 Census Thomas lists 1 male 10-16, 1 male 16-26 and self, again no females in household, and 4 slaves. On 1810 census a Robert Daniel 16-26 appears with one female 16-26 and 4 slaves. Two houses down is Thomas with 3 males under 10, one male 45+, one female 45+ and five slaves. 1810 also shows another Thomas with 3 males under 10, 1 male 26-44, 1 female 26-45 and 4 slaves. This second Thomas lives 8 houses down from Lanier also listed as 26-44. I can't explain the two Thomas's but either now have a female in the household and several little persons. On the 1820 census "Della" DANIEL female 26-45 listed 2 males 0-10, 2 10-16, 1 16-18, 1 16-26, 1 female 0-10, 1 female 26-45 and seven slaves living next to "Willa" DANIEL (believe its Willie, Thomas's brother) and John & Leven James. Leven sold his property in 1827 and deed listed the property as adjacent to "Thomas DANIEL heirs & Willey DANIEL". I think this has to be Delila. Both Thomas & Robert are gone in 1820. Thomas also deeded 175 acres to Robert on 2-9-1810 and although it wasn't described as a deed of gift no apparent money was exchanged. This deed was witnessed by Adam ALBRITON, a son-in-law of John CASON, and a Luke ALBRITON. I wonder if this Robert may have been the Robert of the slave stealing incident. If so, his "Live fast, die young and have a good looking corpse" philosophy appears to have worked. Mike Daniel

Just a thought. The name Owen appears in the early records for Ann Jones Daniel of England the mother of Thomas Daniel of IOW. The records suggest that Ann married a John Daniel first. After John Daniel's death, Anne married a cousin (Jones) and that her maiden name was also "Jones". A church rector thinks that she was a daughter of "Owen Jones". (not proven) Her Baptism is recorded as such on the 14th of April 1616 at the Parish of St. Katherine By The Tower, Middlesex, England. Unfortunately, as John says sometimes, the dates for all these folks are "cobbled up". (so, was Ann born in 1616 or was she born before 1630?) I would like to further suggest that Linda Scotts Roger Jones, born 1642, is the brother of Ann Jones Daniel; however, that would not make her the daughter of Owen Jones? The fact is that the names Roger, Owen, Thomas, and John, extend back to England. It is Nye on to impossible to connect some of these folks because of their dates of birth as shown in Latter Day Saints Ancestral Files. It is fun to try though. Have a nice weekend ya'll. Payne "That you may retain your self-respect, it is better to displease the people by doing what you know is right, than to temporarily please them by doing what you know is wrong." -- William J. H. Boetcker ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Stephen Daniel DNA Lucy, I have a pretty good idea where they come from -- The William DANIEL and Rebecca LNU family of Edgecombe County, NC. but I do not have a good picture of this family and much of it is confusing. William was the son of Simon DANIEL and Elizabeth ROGERS of Edgecombe. We know that when William DANIEL born ABT 1722, died in 1789, his wife was a Rebecca but some say he also married a Sarah WILLIS, d/o William WILLIS of Edgecombe County, NC. In his will it states his daughter, Mary DANIEL, was a Mrs. ANDREWS and they had children named Clara and Cullen ANDREWS. I have the record for Cullen ANDREWS and it says he was married to a Mary BATTLE. Maybe she married a BATTLE and then ANDREWS, that I do not know. What I do know is there are BATTLES on the estate of William DANIEL so this seems to match these to bits of information up, to some degree. The marriage to Rebecca may have been a December marriage, as often happened back then and Sarah WILLIS may have been the mother of these DANIEL kids. I also know they had both a Robert and David DANIEL but no William, Jr. is listed in the estate of William DANIEL of Edgecombe. I know Payne disagrees, but I think William DANIEL who married Pricilla ANDREWS was out of the Simon DANIEL family and not the T&E DANIEL family. The reason being is all of the close connections in this bunch in Edgecombe and none of them seem to be in the family of Robert Lanier DANIEL of Pitt so my guess is that he was a son of Robert DANIEL and Mary SWAIN and not RLD and Jemima or UNK, because Pricilla's brother, Warren Daniel ANDREWS, b: 1765 in Pitt County,North Carolina Death: 22 Jun 1833 in Martin Co., NC married Barshelba GAINER b: 1767 in Pitt County,North Carolina Married: 1790 the daughter of Joseph GAINER b: 1725 in Beaufort co. N.C and Susanna SWAIN b: in Beaufort co. N.C. I also know the GAINERS are found all around my bunch in Washington County, GA in a latter time frame. Joseph GAINER was the brother of William GAINER (1758-1800) who married Martha WILLIAMS and they moved to Davisboro, Washington County, GA. Sisters Mary GAINER married a WHITLEY and sister, Elizabeth GAINER, married a GRIFFIN. Not to over look that David DANIEL who was a son of William DANIEL and either Sarah WILLIS or Rebecca, and we know that Stephen DANIEL married one of the IRWIN girls at his uncle David's house. This tells me the area but not the exact line since a William DANIEL (b. ABT 1760) is not listed in the estate of this William DANIEL but he sure matches the time frame to be a son of this William DANIEL. So, Lucy, your William DANIEL could have been out of this family or even a son of one of his brothers. Maybe even Robert DANIEL and his wife, Mary SWAIN because there is all kinds of loopholes in this bunch, too. However, we already know he was from the IOW bunch and this looks like the right area to concentrate your research on - somewhere in the Simon DANIEL and Elizabeth ROGERS family of Edgecombe...... Source: Estate Records of Edgecombe County, NC, 1730--1820, by Joseph W. Watson: DANIEL,, WILLIAM, inventory taken by Rebecca Daniel, admrx., May 2, 1789, May Ct. 1789, Account of sale by Jacob Battle, Sheriff, June 9, 1789, Aug. Ct. 1789, Account of sale of the remainder., Aug. 29, 1789. Rebecca Daniel was the principal buyer and David Daniel and Lemuel Daniel bought. Proved by the exr. of Robt. Diggs, Feb. Ct. 1790, Additional account of sale at which Martha Daniel also bought. Additional inventory taken by the admrx., Feb. Ct. 1790, Division of lands by commissioners among his three sons, to wit, David Daniel, the eldest, Wright Daniel, and Robt. Daniel, Sept. 20, 1789, Aug. Ct. 1790. Additional inventory returned by the admrx., May Ct. 1791, Additional inventory returned by the admrx., Aug. 30, 1791, Account current stated that five sales were held, Aug. Ct. 1791, Division of money arising from the estate among the heirs., namely, Rebeccah Daniel., widow of said decd.; Mary Farmer, daughter; Clara Andrews and Cullen Andrews, children of Delana Andrews, a daughter; Clara Robertson., daughter; David Daniel, son; Martha Daniel, daughter; Edey Daniel, daughter; Wright Daniel, son; Robert Daniel, son; Catron Daniel., daughter; Elizabeth Daniel, daughter; and Obedience Daniel, daughter, Feb. 1792, Feb. Ct. 1792. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucy Gray" <Lucygray1@cox.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Stephen Daniel DNA > The Stephen Daniel line was notified today they are an exact match with > the Josiah Daniel line ( son of the William Daniel b 1760/70), the Gerald > Daniel line and the Simeon Daniel line. > > Now if we could find the fathers of these men it would great! > > Lucy Gray > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe Click on the following link and your message is ready to send Mail Mode: mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe or- Digest Mode: mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe

Lucy, I have a pretty good idea where they come from -- The William DANIEL and Rebecca LNU family of Edgecombe County, NC. but I do not have a good picture of this family and much of it is confusing. William was the son of Simon DANIEL and Elizabeth ROGERS of Edgecombe. We know that when William DANIEL born ABT 1722, died in 1789, his wife was a Rebecca but some say he also married a Sarah WILLIS, d/o William WILLIS of Edgecombe County, NC. In his will it states his daughter, Mary DANIEL, was a Mrs. ANDREWS and they had children named Clara and Cullen ANDREWS. I have the record for Cullen ANDREWS and it says he was married to a Mary BATTLE. Maybe she married a BATTLE and then ANDREWS, that I do not know. What I do know is there are BATTLES on the estate of William DANIEL so this seems to match these to bits of information up, to some degree. The marriage to Rebecca may have been a December marriage, as often happened back then and Sarah WILLIS may have been the mother of these DANIEL kids. I also know they had both a Robert and David DANIEL but no William, Jr. is listed in the estate of William DANIEL of Edgecombe. I know Payne disagrees, but I think William DANIEL who married Pricilla ANDREWS was out of the Simon DANIEL family and not the T&E DANIEL family. The reason being is all of the close connections in this bunch in Edgecombe and none of them seem to be in the family of Robert Lanier DANIEL of Pitt so my guess is that he was a son of Robert DANIEL and Mary SWAIN and not RLD and Jemima or UNK, because Pricilla's brother, Warren Daniel ANDREWS, b: 1765 in Pitt County,North Carolina Death: 22 Jun 1833 in Martin Co., NC married Barshelba GAINER b: 1767 in Pitt County,North Carolina Married: 1790 the daughter of Joseph GAINER b: 1725 in Beaufort co. N.C and Susanna SWAIN b: in Beaufort co. N.C. I also know the GAINERS are found all around my bunch in Washington County, GA in a latter time frame. Joseph GAINER was the brother of William GAINER (1758-1800) who married Martha WILLIAMS and they moved to Davisboro, Washington County, GA. Sisters Mary GAINER married a WHITLEY and sister, Elizabeth GAINER, married a GRIFFIN. Not to over look that David DANIEL who was a son of William DANIEL and either Sarah WILLIS or Rebecca, and we know that Stephen DANIEL married one of the IRWIN girls at his uncle David's house. This tells me the area but not the exact line since a William DANIEL (b. ABT 1760) is not listed in the estate of this William DANIEL but he sure matches the time frame to be a son of this William DANIEL. So, Lucy, your William DANIEL could have been out of this family or even a son of one of his brothers. Maybe even Robert DANIEL and his wife, Mary SWAIN because there is all kinds of loopholes in this bunch, too. However, we already know he was from the IOW bunch and this looks like the right area to concentrate your research on - somewhere in the Simon DANIEL and Elizabeth ROGERS family of Edgecombe...... Source: Estate Records of Edgecombe County, NC, 1730--1820, by Joseph W. Watson: DANIEL,, WILLIAM, inventory taken by Rebecca Daniel, admrx., May 2, 1789, May Ct. 1789, Account of sale by Jacob Battle, Sheriff, June 9, 1789, Aug. Ct. 1789, Account of sale of the remainder., Aug. 29, 1789. Rebecca Daniel was the principal buyer and David Daniel and Lemuel Daniel bought. Proved by the exr. of Robt. Diggs, Feb. Ct. 1790, Additional account of sale at which Martha Daniel also bought. Additional inventory taken by the admrx., Feb. Ct. 1790, Division of lands by commissioners among his three sons, to wit, David Daniel, the eldest, Wright Daniel, and Robt. Daniel, Sept. 20, 1789, Aug. Ct. 1790. Additional inventory returned by the admrx., May Ct. 1791, Additional inventory returned by the admrx., Aug. 30, 1791, Account current stated that five sales were held, Aug. Ct. 1791, Division of money arising from the estate among the heirs., namely, Rebeccah Daniel., widow of said decd.; Mary Farmer, daughter; Clara Andrews and Cullen Andrews, children of Delana Andrews, a daughter; Clara Robertson., daughter; David Daniel, son; Martha Daniel, daughter; Edey Daniel, daughter; Wright Daniel, son; Robert Daniel, son; Catron Daniel., daughter; Elizabeth Daniel, daughter; and Obedience Daniel, daughter, Feb. 1792, Feb. Ct. 1792. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucy Gray" <Lucygray1@cox.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: [DANIEL-L] Stephen Daniel DNA > The Stephen Daniel line was notified today they are an exact match with > the Josiah Daniel line ( son of the William Daniel b 1760/70), the Gerald > Daniel line and the Simeon Daniel line. > > Now if we could find the fathers of these men it would great! > > Lucy Gray > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > IF YOU MISS ANY MESSAGE: You can easily search the DANIEL List Archives > at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=DANIEL > >

The Stephen Daniel line was notified today they are an exact match with the Josiah Daniel line ( son of the William Daniel b 1760/70), the Gerald Daniel line and the Simeon Daniel line. Now if we could find the fathers of these men it would great! Lucy Gray

Eustace Daniel is listed in the records of Blissland Parish, VA; born December 4, 1734, baptized February 6, 1734-35, son of Edmund Daniel and wife Alice. This is obviously the same "Hustis/Eustis, son of Edmund" who appears later in Granville County, NC. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Lomon" <vlomon@yahoo.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] New Kent county, VA. Elsie Figg who married into Daniel famil... > Thanks for your reply, I do know that Eustace Daniel is listed in New Kent county, VA. in the parish records. I do believe this family of Walter and Brett Daniel has never been researched. I wish I knew more about them, but unfortunately I don't. But he is most diffinatley a descendant of the Walter Daniel line of New Kent county, VA. Vickie > > Runforf471@aol.com wrote:Vickie, > > This post interests me; I've been chasing Eustace for some time. He appears > first in Granville Co., NC and is listed on a 1753 tax list as "Hustis", son > of "Edmund DANIELL". He is also listed as a member of the 1754 Granville > militia along with a Thomas DANIEL. Edmund died abt 1755 in Granville Co. and wife > Alice is estate administrator. Eustace later spends time in Edgecombe Co., > NC (with wife named Sarah) prior to removing to Ga. He does appear on one > Halifax record I have: > > 687-(203) John DANIEL of Green Co. GA to William PARKER of Halifax Co. 9 Feb > 1805. 60 pounds. 60 acres that fell to Eustan(?) & Sarah DANIELL from the > estate of James PARKER dec'd. Wit: William PARKER, Jr. J. MARSHALL. Nov Ct 1805. > CC: L. LONG. > > Mike > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message. > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > Mail Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > or- > Digest Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

John, Thank you for your reply, you may be correct about the Walter, but I am not very familiar with this New Kent county Daniel line? Based on our research, Our Daniel families married into the Mayes, Greenlee and Lacy families. Ester Daniel was a sister to Edward Daniel born approx. 1750, She supposedly married Philemon Lacy in GreenBriar West VA. They did however migrate to McMinn county, TN. Where Ester and Philemon died. On our Edward Daniel born 1750, the only research we have on this fellow is based upon tax list in Henry county, VA. Also the RockingHam Baptists Holy Matrimony church records were Edward was a deacon in 1776, also Philemon and Ester Daniel Lacy was there. Edward is also on deeds, etc. but we have nothing on him on earlies years, these are all while he was in Henry county. There is mentiond of Edward and Widow Daniel, being the Widow of JOhn Daniel Sr. probably Sarah Witherspoon? If I remember correctly. Edward remained there in Henry county up until 1800 where he migrated to Grainger county, TN. Edward was also noted on deeds in Henry county, names like Perkins who desired to build a grist mill. Edward was also to oversee a bridge being built in Henry county, and was to keep it maintained for seven years. I could be wrong, but I am inclined to agree with Payne about our line being from the Prince George county, VA. Daniel line, Edward is a possible son of John Daniel Sr. There is also an Edward Daniel on the Prince George VA. tax list but I think he's related and Edward is a later generation. But the Basil Daniel line that is also connected to us based on the Daniel DNA site. Basil Daniel was on the Pendilton District, SC. census, then he goes to North Carolina, he was an exresident of Buncombe county in 1805. Eustace Daniel goes to Halifax, NC. I don't know if they are even related? But Basil Daniel leaves NC. and travels to Davidson county, TN. and from there he migrated to Illinois, Shelby county and from there he migrated to Arkansas. Basil died in 1840. wife unknown. Also some researchers say Edward and Anna Daniel were married in Edgefield county, SC. but records were destroyed we have know way of knowing. I don't know what to think, but Edwards children had names of Pricilla, Jemima, Sally, Elizabeth, etc. James, JOhn, William, Joesph, common names. also in Grainger there was a Francis Daniel, John and then Edward Daniel, This line is so hard to trace its unreal. "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> wrote: Vickie, What is interesting is the name, Walter. Walter was a LANE name out of the Somerset County, MD LANE family that migrated into eastern NC through his son, Capt. William LANE. Walter LANE, Sr. d. ABT 1750 in Worchester County, MD was married to a Sarah WILSON. Interesting that we have the WILSON name in this bunch, right? Especially since one of T&E's kids married a WILLSON. Capt. William LANE b. 1694 in Nusswadox, Somerset Co, Maryland married a Penelope BRYAN and their son, Levin LANE of Jones County, NC also married a Penelope BRYAN. Levin (ABT 1730-1775) had brothers, Israel and Abraham LANE. These LANES also match the profile of my Daniel-Lane bunch, they die at relatively young ages, "like flies." I also found some interesting links in the Dr. Alexander SLEDGE (1787-1861) family of Marengo County, AL. He married Winifred Bryan LANE, d/o Levin LANE, Jr. and Nancy BRYAN family of Jones County, NC. Alexander's aunt, Winifred SLEDGE of Bute County, NC married Larkin DAWSON and he was of Halifax County, NC the son of a Henry DAWSON and Mary LONG. On the will of Winifred's father, Daniel SLEDGE is not only Larkin DAWSON but an Isam SLEDGE. Once again, we run into the Isam name and there has to be a common link to this name, Isam or Isham, around this bunch, somewhere. A DAWSON also married into the family if Isam LANE of Greene County, NC and I do think that Isam and Levin were brothers because the name, Levin, also floats down my Lane-Daniel bunch, later. . John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Lomon" To: Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] New Kent county, VA. Elsie Figg who married into Daniel famil... > Thanks for your reply, I do know that Eustace Daniel is listed in New Kent > county, VA. in the parish records. I do believe this family of Walter and > Brett Daniel has never been researched. I wish I knew more about them, but > unfortunately I don't. But he is most diffinatley a descendant of the > Walter Daniel line of New Kent county, VA. Vickie > > Runforf471@aol.com wrote:Vickie, > > This post interests me; I've been chasing Eustace for some time. He > appears > first in Granville Co., NC and is listed on a 1753 tax list as "Hustis", > son > of "Edmund DANIELL". He is also listed as a member of the 1754 Granville > militia along with a Thomas DANIEL. Edmund died abt 1755 in Granville Co. > and wife > Alice is estate administrator. Eustace later spends time in Edgecombe Co., > NC (with wife named Sarah) prior to removing to Ga. He does appear on one > Halifax record I have: > > 687-(203) John DANIEL of Green Co. GA to William PARKER of Halifax Co. 9 > Feb > 1805. 60 pounds. 60 acres that fell to Eustan(?) & Sarah DANIELL from the > estate of James PARKER dec'd. Wit: William PARKER, Jr. J. MARSHALL. Nov Ct > 1805. > CC: L. LONG. > > Mike > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > the subject of a reply message. > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? 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Vickie, What is interesting is the name, Walter. Walter was a LANE name out of the Somerset County, MD LANE family that migrated into eastern NC through his son, Capt. William LANE. Walter LANE, Sr. d. ABT 1750 in Worchester County, MD was married to a Sarah WILSON. Interesting that we have the WILSON name in this bunch, right? Especially since one of T&E's kids married a WILLSON. Capt. William LANE b. 1694 in Nusswadox, Somerset Co, Maryland married a Penelope BRYAN and their son, Levin LANE of Jones County, NC also married a Penelope BRYAN. Levin (ABT 1730-1775) had brothers, Israel and Abraham LANE. These LANES also match the profile of my Daniel-Lane bunch, they die at relatively young ages, "like flies." <grin> I also found some interesting links in the Dr. Alexander SLEDGE (1787-1861) family of Marengo County, AL. He married Winifred Bryan LANE, d/o Levin LANE, Jr. and Nancy BRYAN family of Jones County, NC. Alexander's aunt, Winifred SLEDGE of Bute County, NC married Larkin DAWSON and he was of Halifax County, NC the son of a Henry DAWSON and Mary LONG. On the will of Winifred's father, Daniel SLEDGE is not only Larkin DAWSON but an Isam SLEDGE. Once again, we run into the Isam name and there has to be a common link to this name, Isam or Isham, around this bunch, somewhere. A DAWSON also married into the family if Isam LANE of Greene County, NC and I do think that Isam and Levin were brothers because the name, Levin, also floats down my Lane-Daniel bunch, later. . John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Lomon" <vlomon@yahoo.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] New Kent county, VA. Elsie Figg who married into Daniel famil... > Thanks for your reply, I do know that Eustace Daniel is listed in New Kent > county, VA. in the parish records. I do believe this family of Walter and > Brett Daniel has never been researched. I wish I knew more about them, but > unfortunately I don't. But he is most diffinatley a descendant of the > Walter Daniel line of New Kent county, VA. Vickie > > Runforf471@aol.com wrote:Vickie, > > This post interests me; I've been chasing Eustace for some time. He > appears > first in Granville Co., NC and is listed on a 1753 tax list as "Hustis", > son > of "Edmund DANIELL". He is also listed as a member of the 1754 Granville > militia along with a Thomas DANIEL. Edmund died abt 1755 in Granville Co. > and wife > Alice is estate administrator. Eustace later spends time in Edgecombe Co., > NC (with wife named Sarah) prior to removing to Ga. He does appear on one > Halifax record I have: > > 687-(203) John DANIEL of Green Co. GA to William PARKER of Halifax Co. 9 > Feb > 1805. 60 pounds. 60 acres that fell to Eustan(?) & Sarah DANIELL from the > estate of James PARKER dec'd. Wit: William PARKER, Jr. J. MARSHALL. Nov Ct > 1805. > CC: L. LONG. > > Mike > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > the subject of a reply message. > > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Click on the following link and your message is ready to send > Mail Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > or- > Digest Mode: > mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >

Mike, This really caught my attention - a PARKER and a J. MARSHALL in the same sentence, especially one tied to a Greene County, GA DANIEL family. A William PARKER, Jr. and Sr. drew land in the 1805 Ga Land Lottery, then living in Bulloch County, GA but I do not know if this is the same William PARKER. I cannot find hide nor hair of where the Joseph MARSHALL, Sr. (ABT 1765-AFT 1820) of Jefferson County, GA came from before 1820 when he was living in Jefferson County, GA. This PARKER bunch has to be out of the Richard PARKER and Elizabeth SWANN family of .Nansemond County, Va, later, Gates County, NC, somewhere, because their oldest daughter, Elizabeth PARKER married Isaac HUNTER, Jr. the father of Jesse HUNTER (ABT 1736-1786) who married Anne Hinton ALSTON and whose descendants are all over that whole DANIEL, GREENE, RALLS, SANFORD, COLEMAN and WATSON bunch in Greene County, GA. I am much more interested in a Micagah and Isaac PARKER than I am this bunch because they were in Dobbs, later Greene County, NC and Isaac PARKER b. ABT 1765 married one of my LANE girls. Micagah is a big WILLIAMSON and PERRY name. . <<< 687-(203) John DANIEL of Green Co. GA to William PARKER of Halifax Co. 9 Feb 1805. 60 pounds. 60 acres that fell to Eustan(?) & Sarah DANIELL from the estate of James PARKER dec'd. Wit: William PARKER, Jr. J. MARSHALL. Nov Ct 1805. CC: L. LONG. >>> John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Runforf471@aol.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] New Kent county, VA. Elsie Figg who married into Daniel famil... > Vickie, > > This post interests me; I've been chasing Eustace for some time. He > appears > first in Granville Co., NC and is listed on a 1753 tax list as "Hustis", > son > of "Edmund DANIELL". He is also listed as a member of the 1754 Granville > militia along with a Thomas DANIEL. Edmund died abt 1755 in Granville Co. > and wife > Alice is estate administrator. Eustace later spends time in Edgecombe > Co., > NC (with wife named Sarah) prior to removing to Ga. He does appear on one > Halifax record I have: > > 687-(203) John DANIEL of Green Co. GA to William PARKER of Halifax Co. 9 > Feb > 1805. 60 pounds. 60 acres that fell to Eustan(?) & Sarah DANIELL from the > estate of James PARKER dec'd. Wit: William PARKER, Jr. J. MARSHALL. Nov Ct > 1805. > CC: L. LONG. > > Mike > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change > the subject of a reply message. >

Vickie, This post interests me; I've been chasing Eustace for some time. He appears first in Granville Co., NC and is listed on a 1753 tax list as "Hustis", son of "Edmund DANIELL". He is also listed as a member of the 1754 Granville militia along with a Thomas DANIEL. Edmund died abt 1755 in Granville Co. and wife Alice is estate administrator. Eustace later spends time in Edgecombe Co., NC (with wife named Sarah) prior to removing to Ga. He does appear on one Halifax record I have: 687-(203) John DANIEL of Green Co. GA to William PARKER of Halifax Co. 9 Feb 1805. 60 pounds. 60 acres that fell to Eustan(?) & Sarah DANIELL from the estate of James PARKER dec'd. Wit: William PARKER, Jr. J. MARSHALL. Nov Ct 1805. CC: L. LONG. Mike

Payne & others - In looking at your website, I found a statement regarding the American Lineage of the Tyrell Co. DANIEL Family. You mention that "Ann JONES DANIEL of England, husband DANIEL unknown? (1600/1610 - 1678). Ann's brother, Roger JONES and his sons figure in this family's story in America. 2. Thomas DANIEL the First 1631 - 1709 (Isle of Wight, Virginia). 3. Owen DANIEL (abt 1663 - 1700) 4. Thomas DANIEL of Tyrrell Co., NC (1679 - 1749). Note: The sons Roger JONES, Frederick and Thomas, figure in the affairs of Owen DANIEL." I am quite interested in the family of Ann JONES and her brother Roger JONES, as I have a Roger JONES as my 11G grandfather and another as my 9G grandfather. I have not tied them directly into my DANIEL family as of yet, but they do connect to my WITHERSPOON family, which eventually connects to my DANIEL line. Here is how my line from Roger JONES down through the WITHERSPOONs to my DANIEL connection: Roger JONES married Hannah. Thomas JONES, b. abt 1620, marries Ellen HOSKINS. Roger JONES, b. 1642, married Dorothy (WALKER?). Frederick JONES, b. 1670, married Sarah Jane HARDING. Frederick JONES, b. 1712, married Mary VAIL. Harding JONES, b. 1736, married Mary WHITING. Mary Whiting JONES, b. 1757, married 1) Abner NASH, 2) David WITHERSPOON. Rev. John Knox WITHERSPOON, b. 1790, married Susan Davis KOLLOCK. John Knox WITHERSPOON, Jr., b. 1816, married Elizabeth McFarland MCEWEN. Susannah Tweed "Shannie" WITHERSPOON, b. 1849 married Rev. Eugene DANIEL. Rev. Eugene DANIEL was the son of Rev. Isham John DANIEL and Mary Ann RAINEY. He was born 25 Mar 1849 in Intercourse, Sumter Co., AL. Do you have any further information on the parents of Roger and Ann JONES? Where did you find that Roger was Ann's brother? What other evidence have you found of this JONES family tying into the DANIEL family of Tyrell Co.? Do any of these other collateral families set off any bells or whistles in connection to any of the DANIEL families in Tyrell Co.? Regards, Linda Scott

Thanks for your reply, I do know that Eustace Daniel is listed in New Kent county, VA. in the parish records. I do believe this family of Walter and Brett Daniel has never been researched. I wish I knew more about them, but unfortunately I don't. But he is most diffinatley a descendant of the Walter Daniel line of New Kent county, VA. Vickie Runforf471@aol.com wrote:Vickie, This post interests me; I've been chasing Eustace for some time. He appears first in Granville Co., NC and is listed on a 1753 tax list as "Hustis", son of "Edmund DANIELL". He is also listed as a member of the 1754 Granville militia along with a Thomas DANIEL. Edmund died abt 1755 in Granville Co. and wife Alice is estate administrator. Eustace later spends time in Edgecombe Co., NC (with wife named Sarah) prior to removing to Ga. He does appear on one Halifax record I have: 687-(203) John DANIEL of Green Co. GA to William PARKER of Halifax Co. 9 Feb 1805. 60 pounds. 60 acres that fell to Eustan(?) & Sarah DANIELL from the estate of James PARKER dec'd. Wit: William PARKER, Jr. J. MARSHALL. Nov Ct 1805. CC: L. LONG. Mike ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== Don't forget to change the Subject line of your message when you change the subject of a reply message.

Ok, no one is familiar with this line that I know of, but I do know Eustace and Alice Daniel migrated to Halifax, NC. If I remember correctly, If I am wrong somebody let me know about it. This family was in New Kent county, VA. 1. William Daniel born 1679 2. Brett Daniel -1698 3. William Daniel 3. Walter Daniel Dorothy? 4. Walter Daneil Milliam? 5. James Daniel 5. Walter Daniel Mary? 6. Sarah 4. Edward Daniel Alice 5. Eustace Daniel Alice 4. George Daniel 2. William Daniel 2. Jeffery Daniel 2. Walter Daniel William Daniel born abt. 1769-1733 married about. 1703-1768 died est. 1717-1811 Child William Daniel born about 1717-1760 married est. 1743 to 1796 died est. 1757-1841 Spouse Elsie Figg William and Elsie Figg Daniel had Ephriam Daniel born est. 1757-1786 married 1784-1826 died 1811-1871 Spouse Birchett. Ephriam Daniel and wife Birchett had Mary Elizabeth Daniel born November 12, 187 and married October 15, 1872 and died July18, 1887 married William F. Butcher. William F. Butcher born July 28, 1817 married Oct. 15, 1872 died June 8, 1890 child Edward Williamson Butcher born Sept. 19, 1850 married October 15, 1872, Petersburge, VA died July 15, 1929, Petersburge, VA. other spouses Ida Amelia Brown , Nannie Manning Gilliam. Does anyone know about this family line?

"Unlike some", now that statement has been used twice in your recent communications and it peaks my interest. Yes, John I embrace the Owen, Thomas, and Simon postulation but least I will take a stand. Sorry that it does not make sense to you. Also, while the Lanier's did have some contact with Barbados, the Daniels connections to Barbados are a myth. One is a John + Ann and the other is a Thomas Daniel connection to the Lanier's in Barbados that did not happen. I appreciate your sharing of information, postulations and many collateral possibilities, but I detect a tendency to "go with gut" instead of going with documentation such as the records that connect Owen to Thomas etc. Admittedly, the Roberts are a problem but I don't think they are a big a problem. John, I look forward with you when you will be able to connect your Robert to the Greene County Daniel family. Anything new on that front? A wee small voice joins the "Bully Pull Pit". Payne -- When two egotists meet, it's an I for an I. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Clarke" <jclarke@rose.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Isam LANE of Greene County, NC Evelyn, I think I have seen that BEAGLES name somewhere in those eastern NC deeds but did not realize the significance of it. One name to watch for that I know went to TN from this area in NC is SWANN. Unlike some, I have never bought into the "Owen DANIEL > Thomas and Simon DANIEL" theory that some have postulated, primarily because it does not make sense. There is one thing I know about all of these folks, besides the fact they mostly married family, is -- they re-used given names about as fast as some of the language of this old Marine can get from time to time. For me never to see the name, Owen, in either Thomas's or Simon's family in either the first or second generations makes me think this assignment is highly unlikely. The only common name that both Simon and Thomas have in the first generation, which cannot be accounted for, is William DANIEL. That, to me, is a real possibility for their father. Robert is also a common given names in both families because of their connection to both the Robert ROGERS and Robert LANIER families. One surname that may have corrupted the DANIELS in the eastern NC area is the DANNALL family, which may be of Somerset or Dorchester County, MD but it may well be an extension of this DANIEL family, if that makes sense. . I know there was a Robert DANNALL in Pitt County, NC in 1790 and while his name is spelled, DANNALLS, the Lanier-Daniel bunch is spelled DANIEL. John R. Clarke Thomasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken and Evelyn Hansson" <wetwo@kyblue.com> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] Isam LANE of Greene County, NC > Hello John, > > It is interesting that you found Isam LANE in Greene County, NC. My > great-grandfather, William Strader Beagles married a Sarah LANE in Greene > County, Tennessee. Sarah's family of LANE were there and she was born > there. > William Beagles was born in Jessamine Co. KY and I don't know why he was > in > Tennessee. > > Best wishes, > Evelyn Hansson > > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== > If you are have any problems receiving the DANIEL List, would like to > change your subscription method or email address or you have a suggestion > you think would improve the operation of the DANIEL list -- feel free to > contact me at any time - My email address is JClarke@rose.net > > ==== DANIEL Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation for longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe Click on the following link and your message is ready to send Mail Mode: mailto:DANIEL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe or- Digest Mode: mailto:DANIEL-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe