This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SuzanneDeetch51 Surnames: Daniel/Daniell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bob, Thank you for the information. I can not help but wonder what the problems are and why my information is as incorrect as you say it is - which I now don't doubt now. I just do not understand how so many paid (not by me!)recognized genealogist could be so wrong. Also, I will post an apology to everyone on the Daniel/Daniell board if I find all of my information is wrong. What more can you ask? At this time I am not doing any of my "families" due to some serious health issues. When I am more up to facing the challenge of the Daniel/Daniell task, and I have no idea when that will be, I will get back to you and the board on the present issus. Until then I must leave things as they stand because I am just not up to facing these type of problems at this time. Please accept my acknowledgement and acceptance of the situations and know that I am not trying to "cop-out" on the dilemma. I am well aware of the confusion this matter has caused, but you must understand that if it is my fault it was not done out of any type of malice. The information I have lead me, and others, to the conclusion I had/have. Until later, Suzanne (MistyDew88@aol.com) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roloda Surnames: DANIEL HILL MARLOR HATCHER MARSH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Jan. I would very much like to see the information you have on William H. of Kershaw Co., Camden Dist., SC. >From what I have, William H. DANIEL, son of William O'DANIEL III (1755-1828) of Kershaw, Camden District, SC, is one of mine, but I have not found much. He was probably born before 1810 if old enough to be the only executor named in his father's 1828 will, recorded in both Lowndes Co., AL, and Camden District. After the death of his father in 1828, many of William's siblings and his mother moved to Lowndes County, Alabama, probably the reason that his father's will was also recorded in Lowndes County as well as Camden District, South Carolina. William's mother, Eleanor, and his siblings, John J., Francis Levi(?)/S.(?)., and Eleanor Amelia POOLE were in Lowndes County, AL, arriving in the early 1830s and died there, Eleanor "Ellen" in 1842. Whether William H. was in Lowndes is not known to me. In Talbot County, Georgia. on 4 Nov 1833, a William DANIEL witnessed a deed for William PARKS, giving land for a church. (Talbot County, GA Deed Book J, p. 110) William H.'s brother, John J., was receiving mail at the Talbotton Post Office before 1834 and married Hulda HILL in Talbot County on 6 March 1834. John moved to Lowndes County, Alabama before 1841. You wrote:"There is also a consent note signed by Ann's mother Elizabeth and Martha E. Youngblood. Along with Wm. Henry, the bond appears to be signed by Thomas C. Crimm (?). In the 1860 Lowndes Co AL census dwelling 361 there is a Thomas C. Crim born abt 1811, SC." Here is a surname association from 1797 Kershaw: Jurors named for Kershaw County in Nov. 1797 were : John MCDONALD, Patrick BROWN, William DANIEL, Daniel FAUST, and Peter CRIM. This William is thought to be the father of William H. You also mentioned the strong family ties to Edgefield and the DANIEL line there. The William DANIEL III and Eleanor MARLOR(?) line out of Kershaw was cousin to the William DANIEL and Lucretia BELL line of Edgefield. William III's brother, Josiah L. married his first cousin, once removed, Mary DANIEL, d/o William and Lucretia. Mary's sister Martha (Capt. Bryant) MARSH moved to Wilcox County, AL in 1820s. Mary Daniel HATCHER (by then widow of Jeremiah HATCHER and Josiah DANIEL) and her son William Francis DANIEL were in Butler, Wilcox, and Dallas Cos., AL, (all bordering Lowndes) between 1838 and 1850 before moving on to Freestone County, TX in 1850. A number of cousins were also Autauga, bordering Lowndes to the north. Just something to consider. BTW: Where did you find William H. of Camden listed as "William Henry"? In two separate transcripts of his father's Will, containing minor variations, and an abstract from the SC Archives, he is named only as William H. Bob Daniell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Daniel" To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL] Josiah Daniel,where are his parents?/Moving on to Wm. Henry Hi, All Lisa and I have been corresponding about our shared interest in the Wm Henry md. Ann Whatley. I believe Lisa initially made the link to Samuel, Josiah, et al as a consequence of information (unattributed) she found on the LDS site. She descends from the daughter/Stringer line; my son descends from the son/Daniel line. I am also in touch with another cousin who descends from the Whatley line (brother of Ann) hoping that somehow she might have records to shed light on where this Wm. Henry fits in. No such luck. The scant family notes I was told about have been somewhat. They said (1) William Henry Daniel was the father of James and Mary; that he was born in North Carolina 17 Sep 1825 in North Carolina d.10 Dec 1868 in Alabama; and that he married Ann Whatley. They also said (2) Henry Daniel was born in "Carolina" and married Ann Blanchard. The family always thought these were two separate people (Henry being the father of Wm Henry), which as we now know was not the case, "Blanchard" being Ann Whatley Daniel's 2nd marriage. Does the reference to "Henry" mean that is how he was known? (Given how many Wm/Wm. Henry Daniels were floating around, referring to him as "Henry" to distinguish him would have made a lot of sense). Census records for Ann also indicate she had 5 or 6 children, not just 2. Since none of us ever saw the original Bible entries (they were transcribed at some prior point), I can't examine the handwriting to see if they were entered by different people and perhaps years apart (this is what I think most likely happened since Ann outlived both of her "known" children and in her later life she lived briefly with her son's widow; all of the grandchildren would have known her as "Blanchard". Ann Whatley is found in the 1850 Lowndes Co. AL census with her mother and 3 siblings including widow Adeline Casey (variously transcribed, husband Jonas) and brother Edmund W. (whose desendent I referenced above). I have a copy of the marriage bond and certificate of Ann and Wm. Henry dated 7th/8th October 1857 (Montgomery Co. is crossed off, Lowndes Co written in). There is also a consent note signed by Ann's mother Elizabeth and Martha E. Youngblood. Along with Wm. Henry, the bond appears to be signed by Thomas C. Crimm (?). In the 1860 Lowndes Co AL census dwelling 361 there is a Thomas C. Crim born abt 1811, SC. Whether this is the same person or not, I don't know. There are however Whatleys living in the households of dwellings 362 and 363. Witnesses to Wm. Henry and Ann's marriage were T. Manning, J. Sailors (I think this may have been mistranscribed), Ellen Youngblood (Martha E., or "M.E." in the census, daughter of Griffin Youngblood b. abt 1802 in SC) and Mary Whatley (Ann's sister). In the 1860 census, Ellen Youngblood, b. abt 1830, is living with her parents and the household has 2 Whatley girls so there was obviously some sort of family relationship. BTW, the Youngbloods have been mixed up with the Whatley's all the way back in Edgefield, SC where both family groups come from. Edgefield Co. is interesting because the strong Daniel presence there makes for interesting possibilities since Daniel - Whatley - Stringer - and Youngblood families all have roots there. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything on the Daniel list or community boards to suggest there is an unaccounted for Wm Henry. The Kershaw Co., and Camden Co., Daniels are also or interest but with there being so many relationships with Edgefield Co. families.... Other random tidbits: Is there any relationship between the William Henry Daniels named in the will of William Daniels from Camden, SC, filed in Lowndes Co., AL (attested 31st Jan 1834) to our Wm. Henry? And, who are the two Wm. Daniels on the 1855 Lowndes Co. tax roles, both of whom have a boat load of kids? Unless our Wm Henry was really much older than we think, these are not our guys but both of them do have boys under 21 so if our Wm. Henry was born in Sep 1825, either one could have been his father. One of these Wm's is listed only a few names from a John Stringer...In 1850 there's a John Stringer, b. abt 1772 from NC and a Wm Stringer b. abt 1827 in SC is there a connection? For what it's worth, I think I've eliminated the Camden Wm. based on documentation from other researchers, but am not totally sure. Lowndes Co. provided me with information on 3 different Wm./Wm H Daniels but since I can't find a pension/widow's pension, and there are no family stories as hints, I have no way of sorting this out. My ex-father-in-law reports requiring the first Daniel born boy of each generation to have the initials "JW". Why? Associated surnames: DANIEL, BLANCHARD, WHATLEY, COLLINS, STRINGER, DEGGS, BUSH, WOMACK, LEEPER, THOMAS, ATKINSON, GLOVIER, NAY, RIDDLE, MCEWEN I'm thrilled at the dialogue taking place re: the various Wm/Wm Henrys because at this point, I'm at a complete loss as to where to go next. And thus far, none of the Daniel men have been willing to take the DNA test, but I'm still trying. Thanks for your generosity in sharing research and all of your energy to sort this out. Best regards, Jan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I thought I would share this with the List before taking my computer to the shop for a tune up. I am removing William Harper DANIEL as s/o Samuel from my website and recommend that others who posts William H. of Wilkinson County, Georgia as a son of Samuel of Granville should also correct their online records to help prevent perpetuating the apparent error. I am interested in just who, if a son, was William H. Daniel of Granville's parentage. Samuel perhaps, but to much conflicting verbiage has passed down the pike that I am out on a limb on this one. BTW, Martha Currin was the wife of William Henry Daniel the son of William Daniel and Abigail Crews. If I can dodge the repair bullet on the old Gateway I should be in the receipt of email mode in 4 days. Bob Daniell's research in this matter is quite conclusive. Y'all have fun! TOC

Hi, Payne, For when you get the computer back: you wrote: > I am interested in just who, if a son, was William H. Daniel of > Granville's parentage. Samuel perhaps, but [snip] > Samuel's listing in Josiah's Book does show a William H. b. 1826, but he's one of three contemporary William H.'s in the county, the other two being the s/o Willis b. 1831 and the one I proposed as s/o L. Chesley b. 1827. There just aren't records generated by Samuel's William H. that are clearly his. you wrote: > BTW, Martha Currin was the wife of William Henry Daniel the son of > William Daniel and Abigail Crews. > Do you have more info to help support the William Henry who married Martha Currin as a son of William and Abigail? He's the one I just proposed as probable s/o L. Chesley and Lucy Noblin so you can imagine my interest. Abigail would have been about 53 when this William H. was born (1827) and there are no male children in the 1830-1840 census household of William (and Abigail). Later, you're sounding good after your own repairs! Pam in CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roloda Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Still pops up oddly. Will try using spaces: DANIEL - L Bob Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roloda Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Curious, should read DANIEL-L. Sorry about that Bob Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roloda Surnames: DANIEL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: For those who are following this thread, the discussions on William H. DANIEL, from Wilkinson Co., Georgia and from Granville Co., North Carolina are continued on the DANIEL-L on the thread "William H. Daniel" at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DANIEL/2008-10/1223425847 Apparently the DANIEL-L posts are not cross-posted as are the surname message boards to the Mailing Lists. Bob Daniell Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, All Lisa and I have been corresponding about our shared interest in the Wm Henry md. Ann Whatley. I believe Lisa initially made the link to Samuel, Josiah, et al as a consequence of information (unattributed) she found on the LDS site. She descends from the daughter/Stringer line; my son descends from the son/Daniel line. I am also in touch with another cousin who descends from the Whatley line (brother of Ann) hoping that somehow she might have records to shed light on where this Wm. Henry fits in. No such luck. The scant family notes I was told about have been somewhat. They said (1) William Henry Daniel was the father of James and Mary; that he was born in North Carolina 17 Sep 1825 in North Carolina d.10 Dec 1868 in Alabama; and that he married Ann Whatley.  They also said (2) Henry Daniel was born in "Carolina" and married Ann Blanchard. The family always thought these were two separate people (Henry being the father of Wm Henry), which as we now know was not the case, "Blanchard" being Ann Whatley Daniel's 2nd marriage. Does the reference to "Henry" mean that is how he was known? (Given how many Wm/Wm. Henry Daniels were floating around, referring to him as "Henry" to distinguish him would have made a lot of sense). Census records for Ann also indicate she had 5 or 6 children, not just 2. Since none of us ever saw the original Bible entries (they were transcribed at some prior point), I can't examine the handwriting to see if they were entered by different people and perhaps years apart (this is what I think most likely happened since Ann outlived both of her "known" children and in her later life she lived briefly with her son's widow; all of the grandchildren would have known her as "Blanchard".  Ann Whatley is found in the 1850 Lowndes Co. AL census with her mother and 3 siblings including widow Adeline Casey (variously transcribed, husband Jonas) and brother Edmund W. (whose desendent I referenced above). I have a copy of the marriage bond and certificate of Ann and Wm. Henry dated 7th/8th October 1857 (Montgomery Co. is crossed off, Lowndes Co written in). There is also a consent note signed by Ann's mother Elizabeth and Martha E. Youngblood. Along with Wm. Henry, the bond appears to be signed by Thomas C. Crimm (?). In the 1860 Lowndes Co AL census dwelling 361 there is a Thomas C. Crim born abt 1811, SC. Whether this is the same person or not, I don't know. There are however Whatleys living in the households of dwellings 362 and 363. Witnesses to Wm. Henry and Ann's marriage were T. Manning, J. Sailors (I think this may have been mistranscribed), Ellen Youngblood (Martha E., or "M.E." in the census, daughter of Griffin Youngblood b. abt 1802 in SC) and Mary Whatley (Ann's sister). In the 1860 census, Ellen Youngblood, b. abt 1830, is living with her parents and the household has 2 Whatley girls so there was obviously some sort of family relationship. BTW, the Youngbloods have been mixed up with the Whatley's all the way back in Edgefield, SC where both family groups come from.   Edgefield Co. is interesting because the strong Daniel presence there makes for interesting possibilities since Daniel - Whatley - Stringer - and Youngblood families all have roots there. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything on the Daniel list or community boards to suggest there is an unaccounted for Wm Henry.  The Kershaw Co., and Camden Co., Daniels are also or interest but with there being so many relationships with Edgefield Co. families....   Other random tidbits: Is there any relationship between the William Henry Daniels named in the will of William Daniels from Camden, SC, filed in Lowndes Co., AL (attested 31st Jan 1834) to our Wm. Henry?   And, who are the two Wm. Daniels on the 1855 Lowndes Co. tax roles, both of whom have a boat load of kids? Unless our Wm Henry was really much older than we think, these are not our guys but both of them do have boys under 21 so if our Wm. Henry was born in Sep 1825, either one could have been his father. One of these Wm's is listed only a few names from a John Stringer...In 1850 there's a John Stringer, b. abt 1772 from NC and a Wm Stringer b. abt 1827 in SC is there a connection?  For what it's worth, I think I've eliminated the Camden Wm. based on documentation from other researchers, but am not totally sure.   Lowndes Co. provided me with information on 3 different Wm./Wm H Daniels but since I can't find a pension/widow's pension, and there are no family stories as hints, I have no way of sorting this out. My ex-father-in-law reports requiring the first Daniel born boy of each generation to have the initials "JW". Why?   Associated surnames: DANIEL, BLANCHARD, WHATLEY, COLLINS, STRINGER, DEGGS, BUSH, WOMACK, LEEPER, THOMAS, ATKINSON, GLOVIER, NAY, RIDDLE, MCEWEN I'm thrilled at the dialogue taking place re: the various Wm/Wm Henrys because at this point, I'm at a complete loss as to where to go next. And thus far, none of the Daniel men have been willing to take the DNA test, but I'm still trying. Thanks for your generosity in sharing research and all of your energy to sort this out. Best regards, Jan   ----- Original Message ---- From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 9:44:02 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL] Josiah Daniel, where are his parents? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tziggan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Lisa, I've been on the road and only had time to do a quick response on this thread; sorry to be late saying hello and welcome to the glorious Daniel hunt!  You haven't opened a can of worms, you've opened an important discussion and a chance to help searchers and descendants make sure they're on the right track and passing on accurate family history.  Good genealogy means always examining and re-examining our lines as new records and information come to light.  I'm jumping in on this one as an independent eye and because I've done a lot of Granville NC work; I was interested in and concerned about the layout on the Granville William H. way back when, but I hadn't researched the Samuel line well enough to address it until recently. The name William H. Daniel is being tugged at from several directions; some number, or all of them, are cases of "same name, close age, must be the same person", an unfortunate but common methodological trip-up. The question of linking either yours from AL or Suzanne's from Wilkinson GA to Samuel Daniel and Elizabeth Holloway of Granville NC still needs to be answered with a specific record.  There hasn't surfaced a personal record from the time stating it (e.g. a Bible record or a letter).  Samuel sold his property and had no probate in Granville (assuming he died there, it's not documented that I know of), so we won't be seeing a nice record like a call-out from Granville to GA or AL advising potential heirs to make their claims, or a POA from GA or AL to Granville to claim or release rights to the estate.  There's nothing in the Granville land records (up to 1863 at least) that mention or relate to a William H., either there or in another state. The census records, the consistent birthplace discrepancy of GA and not NC, the neighboring location of the Wilkinson guy with Jesse's other sons point pretty heavily to William H. of Wilkinson GA being the William Harper Daniel that Bob has been describing.  The 1900 census seems to me pretty much a silver bullet answer, what with the May 1827 birth and the son Robert who proves to be Robert F. b. 1876, matching the earlier census.  The parallel namesakes add good supporting evidence.  Absent an irrefutable primary source record, DNA is the only way to answer for the differing claims here. So the questions are pretty much the same regarding your William H. of AL: 1. What led you to tie your William H. of AL who md. Ann Whatley to the Granville line?  You may have the record that answers it for all of us! 2. Can you find a male Daniel from your William H. to do the DNA test?  Going down in straight generations from your William H. he would be a second cousin to your father or a third cousin to you; not necessarily that you would know them personally, but hopefully one should be findable. Major news on #2 above!  There's a recently revived thread on genforum about your line, showing that there are current male Daniels for your line (Jan Daniel's husband, hopefully more).  I hope you'll contact her, confirm your relationship and records, and try to get a test from there.  The thread is at: http://genforum.genealogy.com/daniel/messages/2697.html If you or they need any help or have questions about DNA testing, I or any number of Daniel searchers will be more than happy to answer! Again, welcome to the club and hopefully you'll be able to get some answers soon! Regards, Pam in CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Hi,, Rosalyn. Thank you for your comments on William H. of 1860 Wilkinson County, Georgia. Bob Daniell ----- Original Message ----- From: <rdsumner@bellsouth.net> To: <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: [DANIEL] William H. Daniel >I agree with Pam and Bob concerning the William H. Daniel from Wilkinson >not being the s/o Samuel. I did not know the facts earlier and am sorry if >I led Suzanne wrong. I checked the Granville Census and there was a >William H. > Daniel who married Martha Currin, 26 Apr. 1852, in Granville. They are > listed on the Granville Census in 1860, 1870 and 1880. He was called > William H. in 1880. > William is listed are 32 in 1860, 42 in 1870 and 53 in 1880. > Their children were Martha A., Charles L., Elizabeth R., Lucy F., John H., > William C., Ella M., Sarah, & Lula. I have some info on some of the other > children of Samuel. Eliza 1823-1881, Adeline Gray 1831-1901, Harriett > 1840-1907, and Tom Brown Daniel 1834-1911 were all buried at the home > place in Granville County. I'm not sure if it was Samuel or Tom Brown's > homeplace. Zach 1836-1909 was buried in the Critcher Cem.(his wife's > family) I'm not sure if this was in Granville but I think so. Eleanor K. > married her cousin, Robert Marsh Daniel, s/o Chesley and Agnes. They are > buried at Mt. Zion in Granville. I know that some of Josiah's family > came to GA but looks like most of Samuel's stayed in Granville. This > William H. and Martha Currin in Granville used some of the same naming > patterns as son of Samuel's other children. Does anyone have any info on > the Granville William H. Daniel? > Rosalyn Daniels Sumner > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DANIEL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tziggan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.2.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yikes, And the corrections just keep rolling in! 1850 - Leonard Daniel is a Sawyer, not a Lawyer. Aaaargghh and apologies. I know to look more carefully than that, the L's and S's are all over the page to compare!!!!! Pam in CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, Rosalyn, Glad to be back in touch with you! I'm writing really quickly tonight in quick form because I won't be able to get back on for a day or two, but want to get this info to you. The William H. you are describing is the William Henry Daniel aka "Buck" Daniel, 30 Oct 1827 - 18 Jun 1896. The middle name Henry is based on the death certificates of his sons Stephen Thomas Daniel and John Henry Daniel (and maybe some of the other children's certificates, I can't remember right now). In the 1900 census his widow Martha A. has single sister-in-law Mildred Daniel b. Aug 1840 with her. That would be Mildred F. d/o Chesley and Lucy Noblin (she's 9 in 1850). So based on the 1850 census it means Chesley and Lucy named an elder son William H. and a younger son William (b. 1849). The elder William H. has left home in 1850 (more on this later). The 1850 census lists the other children out of order so the younger William might be a child brought in, but no real need to propose this based on two sons named William. William H. comes onto the tax lists in 1849 Goshen in a cluster made up of Miss Nancy, Chesley, William H., and Beverly Daniel. In 1850 William H. is on the Country Line tax lists, which is where Abigail Daniel lives, more on this later. Chesley, father of William H. is aka L. Chesley aka L.C., I'm thinking it's Louis Chesley based on his son's name which was Louis Chesley (another aka L.C.) This next is a tracking of records that lead me to believe pretty strongly that L. Chesley (md. Lucy Noblin) is the son of William Ford Daniel and Abigail Crews, son of Josiah and Elizabeth Key. Starts with a cool land track. In 1843 Chesley Daniel bought 163 2/3 acres from D. E. Young on Aaron's Ck, DB13-3. A witness was Willis Daniel, definitely the named son of William and Abigail. Chesley is taxed on 123a on Aaron's Ck in 1844-1845. I haven't found what happened to the other 40a (I rechecked last week, the original purchase definitely says 163 2/3a in words, I was so hoping I had earlier misread it). Then in 1846 Chesley's trustee James Puryear sells the 123 2/3 acres to Nancy Daniel, DB14-116. It's described as the land he bought of D. E. Young. There's no mortgage recorded, but this sure looks like a mortgage sale, what with Nancy called the highest bidder and done by trustee. From 1846-1851 Nancy Daniel is taxed on variously 123 or 124a, in 1849 it's called 124 2/3a. She's called Miss Nancy Daniel in 1847 and 1849. In 1850 the only single Nancy Daniel old enough to have bought land in 1846 is the Nancy age 55 living with Abigail Daniel, i.e. I think Nancy is William and Abigail's daughter living with her widowed mother. And also living with them is a William age 22, so b. 1827; this fits the 1849 tax list locations for William H. first in Goshen next to his father Chesley, then over in Country Line where Abigail lived. The next three families after Abigail are Currins, the third being Abner and Phebe Currin with their daughter Martha (age 16, her death certif says she's b. 1834), who William H. marries as you described. Back to the 123 2/3 acres. In 1852 Nancy sells 123 2/3a on Aarons Ck to Joseph H. Gooch, DB16-445. Joseph H. Gooch is a sheriff who frequently sells people's lands by court order, but this isn't one of those, it's a personal sale as far as I could see. In 1858 Joseph H. Gooch sells 123 2/3a on Aaron's Ck to guess who? William H. Daniel. The 1858 Oxford tax lists shows Wm. H. with 124a, 1859 says 100a, 1860 says 124a. There's no 1861 list, then in 1862 Wm H. is taxed in Abrams Plains, but his land is described as 133a [yes 133] in Goshen. From 1863-1864 Wm H. in Abrams Plains doesn't have land on the tax lists. I've gotten through Deed Book 21, which includes recording dates of 1864. There are two William Daniel grantor deeds coming up, DB23-382 and DB23-436, they may answer if William sold the land or what, but he's off the property tax lists from 1862 through 1876. However, he died with land, so he probably mortgaged and will show up again on later lists. I'm smelling mortgage because guess who's again taxed on the 123a aka 124a? It's Chesley in 1863, 1864, 1867, 1872! I just gotta declare here and now how giddy happy this kind of data makes me! Based on all the above, I'm proposing that it is this William Henry in the 1850 census who's moved over with his grandmother Abigail and single Aunt Nancy, making L. Chesley who md. Lucy Noblin another son of William and Abigail. Not proved conclusively, but a lot of coming together of the records. William Henry d. in 1896 and has probate papers running to 1902. There are actually two folder for him; here's a run-down: Folder for W. H. Daniel 1896 -admr M. A. Daniel, inv 6 Nov 1896 [M.A. = Martha A. Daniel, signed by mark] -19 Jul 1896, applic to admin Martha Ann Daniel -entitled heirs are Stephen T. Daniel, Charlie L. Daniel, Roasa E. Averett, L. Phebe Moss, John H. Daniel, Willie C. Daniel, Ella Daniel, Saralah J. Daniel, Lula Daniel. -some accts of estate Folder for William H. Daniel 1902 -7 ??? 1902 final acct by Martha A. Daniel of Wm. H. Daniel -7 Mar 1902 To Bal due admx (Last Return 200.05, Paid W. C. Daniel 520.00, amt due admx $720.05 "By agreement of the children of said Wm H. Daniel the entire tract of land of which said Wm H. Daniel died seized was given to Mrs. M. A. Daniel for life, and the above amount was paid out of the rents and profits of said land by said Mrs. Martha A. Daniel and she has no claim for same." subm by Mrs. Martha A. Daniel (x) 7 Mar 1902. -cover sheet says this is in Bk3-407 -There's a sheet that was put in error into the folder of another William Daniel who d. 1894 (he's closer in my line, moved over from Person Co). The misplaced sheet is another acct by Martha A. Daniel for W. H. Daniel 1896-97. William Henry and Martha's daughter Martha A. must have died young, but something weird is going on with the tombstones. She's 7 in 1860 but not there from 1870 on. The stone for Martha A. Daniel in the Daniel Family Cem on Tom Hunt Rd with William H. gives dates 26 Feb 1853 - 3 Jun 1917, i.e. the birth fits the daughter, but the death doesn't, it's closer to the mother's. Wife Martha Ann (Currin) Daniel's death certificate says 25 Jan 1834 - 4 Jan 1917. I'm wondering if the Jan/Jun 1917 is a mix-up, but I can't propose how it came about, wonder if two graves' dates have been blended in the sources I'm using. I haven't seen the graves, I'm using the cemetery books and the online cemetery surveys. I can't pull tonight to find out if this William Henry is in other odds and ends records. I just last week extracted some cool school lists that I have to collate, but I know he's on them, I think with more evidence putting him with father Chesley, and for sure with his own kids later. I'll try to get back on this later this week. And that's a rundown of what I've got on this William H. Daniel in Granville. There's also another William H. Daniel b. Jun 1831 s/o Willis Daniel and Elizabeth Ellis, son of William Daniel and Abigail Crews. Regards, Pam in CA rdsumner@bellsouth.net wrote: [snip] I checked the Granville Census and there was a William H. Daniel who married Martha Currin, 26 Apr. 1852, in Granville [snip] This William H. and Martha Currin in Granville used some of the same naming patterns as son of Samuel's other children. Does anyone have any info on the Granville William H. Daniel?

I agree with Pam and Bob concerning the William H. Daniel from Wilkinson not being the s/o Samuel. I did not know the facts earlier and am sorry if I led Suzanne wrong. I checked the Granville Census and there was a William H. Daniel who married Martha Currin, 26 Apr. 1852, in Granville. They are listed on the Granville Census in 1860, 1870 and 1880. He was called William H. in 1880. William is listed are 32 in 1860, 42 in 1870 and 53 in 1880. Their children were Martha A., Charles L., Elizabeth R., Lucy F., John H., William C., Ella M., Sarah, & Lula. I have some info on some of the other children of Samuel. Eliza 1823-1881, Adeline Gray 1831-1901, Harriett 1840-1907, and Tom Brown Daniel 1834-1911 were all buried at the home place in Granville County. I'm not sure if it was Samuel or Tom Brown's homeplace. Zach 1836-1909 was buried in the Critcher Cem.(his wife's family) I'm not sure if this was in Granville but I think so. Eleanor K. married her cousin, Robert Marsh Daniel, s/o Chesley and Agnes. They are buried at Mt. Zion in Granville. I know that some of Josiah's family came to GA but looks like most of Samuel's stayed in Granville. This William H. and Martha Currin in Granville used some of the same naming patterns as son of Samuel's other children. Does anyone have any info on the Granville William H. Daniel? Rosalyn Daniels Sumner

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tziggan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hey again, Ron, Oops, I messed up on the names I proposed in the 1840 census, left out the Thomas s/o Leonard. It looks like he would be in the 5-10 slot and pushes Elias down one category, Elias would then be on the cusp of 5/6, answering for that missing son. That's of course IF this 1840 Leonard is the correct one anyway! Later, Pam in CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tziggan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hey, Ron, We had a short conversation on the Daniel-L back in Aug 2005 and posted some census about this guy. This William H. always pops up when I do a start-over on identifying what happened to the William H. Daniel of Granville s/o Samuel and Elizabeth (Holloway) Daniel! I do think the William H. in those census records you mention is the same, with first wf Frances and second wife Kissie. In 1860 there's a big gap between the first kids (John 12, Frank 10, Jessee 8, then Wm 8months; wife Kissie is only 23. The 1860 son John must be an error or second name for Jasper because he's a perfect fit for the 1850 and 1870 Jasper. In the most recent run at the census that I've been doing lately, I worked more on the Leonard, looks like he tracks back to Sumter SC. Leonard is in 1870 Wilkes, age 76 GA with Mary 68 GA. Next to them is Wylie 27 GA and Nancy 27 GA with a Mary Smith 6 GA in the household. I haven't been able to pull him out in 1860. In 1850 Warren GA the William H. is family #184 on p.138. Leonard is family #50 on p. 139 and Jesse is family #201 on p.139b. Leonard is a lawyer, age 51 SC with Mary 48 NC, Thomas 21 SC, Eliza 17 SC, Elias 16 GA, John 14 GA, Wiley 10 GA, Riley 10 GA [yes Wiley and Riley], Emeline 7 GA, James 3 GA Jesse is 28 NC with Sarah 30 GA Francis M. 6 GA Thomas 4 GA Leroy F. 3 GA Mary J. 6m GA Jesse must have died because in 1860 Glascock is: Sarah 38 GA Francis M. 15 GA Thomas 14 GA Leroy F. 12 GA Mary J. 10 GA Going back, I think this is the Leonard track. It's the only Leon* or Len* Daniel that works for age and children, but I haven't checked all the L Daniels by initial only. 1840 GA Warren, Rylands District [my interpretation for names in brackets] Leonard Daniel 1m 40-50 [Leonard 41/48 yr] 1m 15-20 [Jesse 18] 1m 10-15 [Wm H. 14] 1m 5-10 [Elias 6] 2m 0-5 [John 4 and another son?] 1f 30-40 [Mary 38] 1f 10-15 [?] 1f 5-10 [Eliza 7] 1f 0-5 [?] 1830 SC Sumter Leonard Daniels [sic] 1m 20-30 [Leonard 31] 2m 5-10 [Jesse 8, William H. 4/5] 1m 0-5 [Thomas 1] 1f 20-30 [Mary 28] 1f 0-5 [the older girl in 1840] I don't see anything on the public gedcoms about this Leonard; hopefully someone will pop in and help! Have you talked with Kathy Y Jeffers, she has 1997-99 queries on the Glascock board about Jesse M. Daniel; also Winnie Oxford, she has a 2000 query about Leonard at genforum (msg #1587). Tell us more about your line forward from these guys, yes? Regards, Pam in CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tziggan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Lisa, I've been on the road and only had time to do a quick response on this thread; sorry to be late saying hello and welcome to the glorious Daniel hunt! You haven't opened a can of worms, you've opened an important discussion and a chance to help searchers and descendants make sure they're on the right track and passing on accurate family history. Good genealogy means always examining and re-examining our lines as new records and information come to light. I'm jumping in on this one as an independent eye and because I've done a lot of Granville NC work; I was interested in and concerned about the layout on the Granville William H. way back when, but I hadn't researched the Samuel line well enough to address it until recently. The name William H. Daniel is being tugged at from several directions; some number, or all of them, are cases of "same name, close age, must be the same person", an unfortunate but common methodological trip-up. The question of linking either yours from AL or Suzanne's from Wilkinson GA to Samuel Daniel and Elizabeth Holloway of Granville NC still needs to be answered with a specific record. There hasn't surfaced a personal record from the time stating it (e.g. a Bible record or a letter). Samuel sold his property and had no probate in Granville (assuming he died there, it's not documented that I know of), so we won't be seeing a nice record like a call-out from Granville to GA or AL advising potential heirs to make their claims, or a POA from GA or AL to Granville to claim or release rights to the estate. There's nothing in the Granville land records (up to 1863 at least) that mention or relate to a William H., either there or in another state. The census records, the consistent birthplace discrepancy of GA and not NC, the neighboring location of the Wilkinson guy with Jesse's other sons point pretty heavily to William H. of Wilkinson GA being the William Harper Daniel that Bob has been describing. The 1900 census seems to me pretty much a silver bullet answer, what with the May 1827 birth and the son Robert who proves to be Robert F. b. 1876, matching the earlier census. The parallel namesakes add good supporting evidence. Absent an irrefutable primary source record, DNA is the only way to answer for the differing claims here. So the questions are pretty much the same regarding your William H. of AL: 1. What led you to tie your William H. of AL who md. Ann Whatley to the Granville line? You may have the record that answers it for all of us! 2. Can you find a male Daniel from your William H. to do the DNA test? Going down in straight generations from your William H. he would be a second cousin to your father or a third cousin to you; not necessarily that you would know them personally, but hopefully one should be findable. Major news on #2 above! There's a recently revived thread on genforum about your line, showing that there are current male Daniels for your line (Jan Daniel's husband, hopefully more). I hope you'll contact her, confirm your relationship and records, and try to get a test from there. The thread is at: http://genforum.genealogy.com/daniel/messages/2697.html If you or they need any help or have questions about DNA testing, I or any number of Daniel searchers will be more than happy to answer! Again, welcome to the club and hopefully you'll be able to get some answers soon! Regards, Pam in CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roloda Surnames: DANIEL TUCKER KINNEY ANGLE HATCHER SHINHOLSTER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Suzanne, Lisa, Rosalyn, and All. Suzanne, I know you believe William Henry DANIEL, son of Samuel DANIEL of Granville County, North Carolina is the William H. DANIEL of 1860 Wilkinson County, Georgia, but as previously stated, I believe that William H. of Wilkinson is William HARPER DANIEL, son of Jesse DANIELL of Baldwin County, Georgia. If I am wrong, please help me prove you are right. If William is not who I think he is, I will be pleased to share all that I have on him and his descendants with those who are. That DNA test you mentioned might be particularly useful. In the search for what is correct, this analysis of available information is necessarily lengthy, probably exempting me from disinterested cousin status. Incidentally, so far, I've not found a record showing William H. DANIEL of Granville county, North Carolina or Wilkinson County, Georgia naming William as "Henry." Is there such a record? William of Wilkinson is listed as "William H.", "W. H.", or William in known records. First, my knowledge of the Josiah DANIEL family of Granville is admittedly minimal. Considering the Josiah DANIEL Bible entries, there is no question about Samuel or William H. DANIEL of Granville being part of his family. Suzanne listed proofs for William H. Daniel---born 09/17/1826 Granville Co., NC, as "Wilkinson Co. Historical Collections" and "1880 GA census." If they were meant to prove William H. DANIEL of Wilkinson County, Georgia is a son of Samuel DANIEL of Granville, North Carolina, they do not. Over the weekend, a review of the "Wilkinson County Georgia Historical Collections" by Joseph T. Maddox, produced no reference to William H. being from North Carolina nor a connection to Samuel. There is no reference to North Carolina in the 1880 census. However, the references certainly show the relationship between William and Sarah and that Benjamin M.(Melton) was their son. The question still remains: What record or documentation shows William H. DANIEL of Wilkinson County to be the son of Samuel of Granville County, North Carolina? Was something more than "Wilkinson Co. Historical Collections" and "1880 GA census" submitted as positive proof to convince those three societies and their genealogists? Two excerpts from the Maddox's book, found on page 318: "In 1850 William H. Daniel, born 1815, was shown with his wife Elizabeth born 1818. one child shown: Mary born 1841." (May not be of interest in the discussion of William H. who married Sarah Ann HATCHER.) "In 1860 and 1880 William H. Daniel, born 1828. Wife Sarah Ann Hatcher-Shinholster, born 1832, widow of George Shinholster and daughter of James and Sarah Clay Hatcher, showed the following family: Mary M. born 1854. James A. born 1855 married Dora Honeycutt. William A. born 1857. Anna born 1867. Joseph A. born 1868. Charles W. born 1871, married Effie Honeycutt. Benjamin M., born 1873. Rosa L. born 1875, married H. W. Billings. Robert F. born 1877. Launa [sic, Laura, age 2 months in 1860. RLD] married Robert Billings. Living in the home in 1860 was George [sic, Georgian, female. RLD] born 1848 a son [sic, daughter. RLD] by the previous marriage. Sophia Daniel or Shinholster born 1833. [Not listed on the 1860 or 1880 census with William H.'s family, nor otherwise found. RLD] There was a mention of a marriage to Lizzy Bailey to one son." (Note: Comments in [ ] are mine.) Likewise, there is no reference to North Carolina in the 1860 or 1880 censuses which appear to be source material for the names and dates in the above excerpt. 1860 Georgia, Wilkinson County, Bloodworth District, McIntyre P O: Series: M653 Roll: 141 Page: 882: 153 155 Wm H. DANIEL 32 M W Farmer 600 200 GA; Sarah Ann 28 F W GA; Mary M. 6 F W GA; James A. 5 M W GA; Wm J. 3 M W GA; Laura 2/12 F W GA; Georgia SHINHOLSER F W 12 GA. 1870 census for this family not located. 1880 Georgia, Wilkinson County, District 330; Series: T9 Roll: 17 Page 384: 37 38 William H. DANIEL Head M Male W 54 GA Works On Farm GA GA; Sarah A. DANIEL Wife M Female W 44 GA Keeping House GA GA; Annah DANIEL Dau S Female W 13 GA Works On Farm GA GA; Joseph A. DANIEL Son S Male W 12 GA Works On Farm GA GA; Charles W. DANIEL Son S Male W 9 GA GA GA; Benjamin M. DANIEL Son S Male W 7 GA GA GA; Rosa L. DANIEL Dau S Female W 5 GA GA GA; Robert F. DANIEL Son S Male W 3 GA GA GA. Additional censuses through 1910 show no reference to any place but Georgia for William and his parents. William was "88", 5 years older than expected, and living with his son Robert Franklin DANIEL in 1910 Emanuel County, but is not found in the 1920 census. Now, in support of my belief that William Harper is the William H. DANIEL in 1860 Wilkinson, my general notes on William Harper DANIEL are below. They have grown a bit since this discussion started, for which I'm thankful, and look forward to discovering which William H. is correct. ===== WILLIAM HARPER DANIELL, aka WILLIAM H. DANIEL NOTE: CAUTION, CONFLICT OF ASSIGNMENT: This compiler believes William Harper DANIEL, born 23 May 1827, son of Jesse DANIELL (nee AUSTON), and Mary Ann TUCKER married Sarah Ann HATCHER, the widow SHENHOLSER/SHINHOLSTER. The families of William and his brother, Robert Tucker DANIEL, are neighbors, one household apart in the 1860 census of Wilkinson County, Georgia, separated by Robert's brother-in-law, Elijah KINNEY. The 1880 census of Wilkinson County lists William's son Robert F, age 3. The 1900 census of Emanuel County, Georgia, lists "May 1827" as William DANIEL's birth month and year, corresponding to William Harper DANIEL, and lists his wife "Sallie" (Sarah) and their youngest child, Robert (Franklin), born Oct 1876, age 23, in his household. The 1910 census of Emanuel County, lists Robert F., 33. as head, and includes his widowed father William, age 88, 5 years older than expected, but obviously with the same family. In all the censuses from 1880 through 1910, William is shown as born in Georgia, as are his ! parents. In a competing assignment, yet to be resolved, researchers Suzanne Daniel Deetch and Rosalyn Summers assign William H. DANIEL in 1860 Wilkinson County, later in Emanuel County, as William Henry, born 17 September 1826, son of Samuel DANIEL and Elizabeth Jane HOLLOWAY of Granville County, North Carolina. His birth date is recorded in the Bible of Josiah DANIEL of Granville County, North Carolina. However, in censuses from 1860 to 1910, there is no indication that William or his parents were from North Carolina, all listed as born in Georgia. Additional information supporting this assignment has been requested, but information provided to date shows no connection between William H. of Wilkinson and Samuel of Granville. DISCUSSION: How might William Harper DANIEL have met and married Sarah Ann SHINHOLSTER? A reasonable answer is suggested by church records published in "Wilkinson County Georgia Historical Collections" on p. 70. Sarah Ann, her parents, James and Sarah HATCHER, her husband, George W. SHINHOLSTER, Robert T. DANIEL (William Harper's brother) and Mary J. KINNEY's family were members of the same church, Liberty Missionary Baptist Church, founded 1837. After George's death in 1847, and Robert's marriage to Mary J. KINNEY, in 1850, William would have ample opportunity to be introduced to Sarah by his brother's family, resulting in their marriage in 1852. In addition, the 1850 Wilkinson census shows additional proximity of the families: Arthur Reese DANIELL, William Harper's brother, is named two households from James G. SHINHOLSTER's family and four households farther is that of the widow Mary SHINHOLSTER; and Daniel R. TUCKER, brother of William Harper's mother, Mary Ann Tucker DANIELL, is listed two households from James G. SHINHOLSTER and eight from the widow Mary ! SHINHOLSTER. === William Harper DANIELL was born 23 May 1827, probably in Baldwin County, Georgia, a son of Jesse DANIELL and Mary Ann TUCKER. His name and date of birth are part of the Family Record "from the Holy Bible printed in 1816" in his mother's 1878 Widow's Pension Application, certified to the court to be genuine by Daniel R. TUCKER, an officer of the court and Mary's brother. Other than in this Bible, William is found in records as DANIEL, as are most of his father's descendants. 1850 U.S. Census, Georgia, Washington County, Division 91, 12 Nov 1850; Series: M432 Roll: 87 Page: 231: "William H. DANIEL 23 M W Overseer GA" is named in the household of Nathaniel WICKER, 25, GA, wife Sarah Ann L., 22, GA and son James T., one month, GA. The History of Wilkinson County, Georgia, p. 314, lists the marriages of William H. DANIEL to Sarah Ann SHENHOLSER [sic]*, on Mar. 30, 1852 by Wright NOLES, J. P. and "Robert I. [sic, T.] DANIEL" to "Nancy I. [sic, Mary Ann? J.] KINNEY" on Sept 12, 1850, by John L. STEPHENS, J. P. Ten years later in 1860, Wilkinson County, William H. and Sarah Ann DANIEL with daughter Mary M, age 6. Two homes away is Robert and Mary J. DANIEL who have a 9 year old daughter, Mary S. *Widow of George W. SHINHOLSTER. From: FHL 1738238 GA Wilkinson Index to Deeds & Mortgages and DB A: A33 William H. Daniel to William O. Beall both Wilk'n 17 Aug 1854, $600, 80a, 4th district, as part of Lot No 238, lying on SE sd w/this exception 8 ft betw sd lot and the warren lot for a road to sun swamp adjoining land of Peyton Clay & James Jackson and others commencing at corner of Col old field [sic] and running direct to a cirtain [sic] branch and the branch the boundary line betw Wm O. Beall and sd 80a. wit Eleazer Cumming, Samuel Beall JJC, recd 31 Aug 1854. A35 Jonathan C. Pearson to William H. Daniel both Wilk'n 17 Dec 1853, $565, same descrip as A33 above. wit Hiram M. Pace, Wright Noles JT A294 William H. Daniel and Sarah Ann Daniel (x) to Hiram M. Pace all Wilk'n 6 Aug 1853, $400, 100.25a, 4th district known by part of Lot Number 211, commencing at E corner running through sd Lot of land to the W corner the N 1/2 of sd lot joining lands of Payton Clay, William C. Bannon, A. Passmore and others. wit John H. Hatcher, Wright Noles J. T. recd 13 Nov 1857. >From "Wilkinson County Georgia Historical Collections" (Maddox), page 318: "In 1850 William H. Daniel, born 1815, was shown with his wife Elizabeth born 1818. one child shown: Mary born 1841." "In 1860 and 1880 William H. Daniel, born 1828. Wife Sarah Ann Hatcher-Shinholster, born 1832, widow of George Shinholster and daughter of James and Sarah Clay Hatcher, showed the following family: Mary M. born 1854. James A. born 1855 married Dora Honeycutt. William A. born 1857. Anna born 1867. Joseph A. born 1868. Charles W. born 1871, married Effie Honeycutt. Benjamin M., born 1873. Rosa L. born 1875, married H. W. Billings. Robert F. born 1877. Launa [sic, Laura, age 2 months in 1860. RLD] married Robert Billings. Living in the home in 1860 was George [sic, Georgian, female. RLD] born 1848 a son [sic, daughter. RLD] by the previous marriage. Sophia Daniel or Shinholster born 1833. [Not listed on the 1860 or 1880 census with William H.'s family, nor otherwise found. RLD] There was a mention of a marriage to Lizzy Bailey to one son." (Comments in [ ] by Robert Louis Daniell.) This compiler notes that William H., 32, and Robert T. DANIEL, 35, are neighbors in 1860 in Wilkinson County. William's step-daughter, Georgian SHINHOLSER [sic] is in his home. Living between William and Robert is Elijah L. KINNEY, brother of Robert's wife, Mary. 1860 U.S. Census, Georgia, Wilkinson County, Bloodworth District, McIntyre P O, 1 June 1860: Series: M653 Roll: 141 Page: 882: 153 155 Wm H. DANIEL 32 M W Farmer 600 200 GA; Sarah Ann 28 F W GA; Mary M. 6 F W GA; James A. 5 M W GA; Wm J. 3 M W GA; Laura 2/12 F W GA; Georgia SHINHOLSER F W 12 GA. Page: 882: 152 154 Elijah L. KINNEY 31, Sarah 22 Housekeeper, and Frances SMITH, 13. Elijah is Mary J. DANIEL's brother. 1860 U.S. Census, Georgia, Wilkinson County, Bloodworth District, McIntyre P O, 11 June 1860: Series: M653 Roll: 141 Page: 882: 151 153 Robert T. DANIEL 35 M W Farmer 800 50 GA; Mary J. " 33 F W Housekeeper GA; Mary S. " 9 GA; Sarah L. " 7 GA; Elijah L. " 5 M W GA; Anabella " 4 F W GA. Another brother, John Thomas DANIEL is also in Wilkinson County in 1860: 1860 U.S. Census, Georgia, Wilkinson County, Gordon P O, 1 June 1860; Series: M653 Roll: 141 Page: 909 338 340 John T DANIEL 39 M W Minister Meth Prot GA; Lucinda {Angle] DANIEL 25 F W House Keeper GA; Jesse T. DANIEL 8 M W GA; John A. DANIEL 5 M W GA [Not with family in 1870. Reappears in 1880, a census page away from his father]; Mary C. DANIEL 2 F W GA; 339 341 Muncy ANGLE 22 Farmer, Lucinda's brother?, lives next door. Side note: At Heritage Quest, the only DANIEL, DANIELL, or DANIELS surnames indexed in Wilkinson County, Georgia in 1860 are these three brothers. 1860 Slave Owners - Wilkinson County, Ga.: Bloodworth District - William H. DANIEL 1. William Harper DANIEL, age about 42, and family has not been located in the 1870 census. 1880 U.S. Census, Georgia, Wilkinson County, District 330; Series: T9 Roll: 17 Page 384: 37 38 William H. DANIEL Head M Male W 54 GA Works On Farm GA GA; Sarah A. DANIEL Wife M Female W 44 GA Keeping House GA GA; Annah DANIEL Dau S Female W 13 GA Works On Farm GA GA; Joseph A. DANIEL Son S Male W 12 GA Works On Farm GA GA; Charles W. DANIEL Son S Male W 9 GA GA GA; Benjamin M. DANIEL Son S Male W 7 GA GA GA; Rosa L. DANIEL Dau S Female W 5 GA GA GA; Robert F. DANIEL Son S Male W 3 GA GA GA. In 1881, W. H. (William Harper) and R. S. [sic, Robert Tucker] DANIEL are named as heirs of Mary A. Tucker DANIELL of Baldwin County, Georgia. Both resided in Wilkinson County in 1880. William and family moved to Emanuel County, Georgia before 1900. 1900 U.S. Census, Georgia, Emanuel County, Militia District 1429; Series: T623 Roll: 195 Page: 227: 344 345 DANIELS William Head W M May 1827 73 M 34 GA GA GA Farmer; -- Sallie Wife W F Oct 1837 62 M 34 10 8 GA GA GA; -- Robert Son W M Oct 1876 23 S GA GA GA Farm laborer; HILLMAN Willie GSon W M July 1889 10 S GA GA GA; -- George GSon W M Decr 1881 18 S GA GA GA; DANIELS Viola GDau W F Apr 1896 4 S GA GA GA. 1910 U.S. Census, Georgia, Emanuel County, Militia Dist. 1560; Series: T624 Roll: 186 Page: 257: 216 218 DANIEL Robt F. Head M W 33 M1 7 GA GA GA Farmer; -- Rosa Wife F W 32 M1 7 2 2 GA GA GA Farm laborer House; -- Raiford Son M W 6 S GA GA GA; -- Mary Dau F W 3 S GA GA GA; -- William Father M W 88 Wd GA GA GA None. [5 years older than expected, but obviously in the same family..] William died after March 1910. === >From all the above, I conclude that William H. DANIEL of 1860 Wilkinson County, Georgia is William Harper DANIEL, the son of Jesse DANIELL, nee AUSTON, and Mary Ann TUCKER of Baldwin County, Georgia. Constructive criticism and corrections are always welcome. After all, the goal is to be correct. Bob Daniell Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

DIANNE DANIEL, 64, of Monroe died Thursday. Funeral, 4 p.m. today, Meadows Funeral Home. Published in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on 10/4/2008 John R. Clarke 410 Highland Ave. Batesburg, SC 29006-1311 803-604-5189

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SuzanneDeetch51 Surnames: DANIEL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.2.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Georgia, No, I am not offended and I appreciate your information. I was so tired when I wrote the post last night it is a wonder I spelled my own name correctly. Thanks for letting us all know about the date typo regarding Josiah. Suzanne (spelled correctly) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: outdoorwriter Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.1.1.3.4.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Robert, That's who I thought it was - Jesse Auston Daniel b. 1794 g/s James Daniell of Hancock County, GA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roloda Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2143.2.1.1.1.3.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John, Yes, Jesse DANIELL/DANIEL and Mary Ann TUCKER of Baldwin County, Georgia. The family bible lists all the children as DANIELL. As we know, it is particularly common to find ths family as DANIEL and DANIELS as well. That said, William is found as DANIELS in the 1900 census of Emanuel co., Ga. Bob Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.