Hi Jack,  This is the one I received from you earlier today. Vivion Daniel is my 4th great grandfather. Thanks a lot. I don't remember the one on the newspaper ad and petition, etc but I might have missed it.   Marianne Diillow   --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Jack Butler <jackvbutler@comcast.net> wrote: From: Jack Butler <jackvbutler@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [DANIEL] Vivion Daniel Rev War Record, Orange Co., Va. To: DANIEL@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:30 PM Hi guys, I tried to send this email earlier - prior to the one that came through about the newspaper add and petition. I never saw it come through, so I am sending it again. If it comes through twice, my apologies. Just as an FYI, Vivion Daniel appears on a number of Revolutionary War records, digitized images of which can be accessed through Footnote.com (No, I am not a salesman, just a satisfied subscriber.): There is a 5 page (those little fold-up portfolio pages) Compiled Service Record - this is essentially a summary of his Rev War records. There is a payroll dated 1 June to 1 August, 1779, for Captain Garland Burney's Company of Colonel Francis Taylor's Regiment of Militia (Albemarle County, VA, 1779, folder 343, Page 16). Vivion Daniel also appears multiple times in Revolutionary War Pension files - not as pensioner, but as a supporting witness in several men's pension applications. The signature appears the same in the three that I took a quick look at, so if you are a descendant of Vivion Daniel (I am not) and want his autograph, this could be the place. Good hunting. Jack Butler   

Just as an FYI, Vivion Daniel appears on a number of Revolutionary War records, digitized images of which can be accessed through Footnote.com (http://www.footnote.com/) (No, I am not a salesman, just a satisfied subscriber.): There is a 5 page (those little fold-up portfolio pages) Compiled Service Record - this is essentially a summary of his Rev War records. There is a payroll dated 1 June to 1 August, 1779, for Captain Garland Burney's Company of Colonel Francis Taylor's Regiment of Militia (Albemarle County, VA, 1779, folder 343, Page 16). Vivion Daniel also appears multiple times in Revolutionary War Pension files - not as pensioner, but as a supporting witness in several men's pension applications. The signature appears the same in the three that I took a quick look at, so if you are a descendant of Vivion Daniel (I am not) and want his autograph, this could be the place. Good hunting. Jack Butler ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. A. Miller" <gen@pamiller.net> To: <DANIEL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [DANIEL] Vivion Daniel Rev War Record, Orange Co., Va. > Hey, Marianne, > > you wrote: > > Those two sources sounds so confusing as to their dates. [snip] > > The Captain and the dates is what is bothering me. [snip] > > If I wanted to join the DAR I would have to be able to prove it. :) > > > Men were so in and out of service at various ranks and in different > organizations (county v. state, militia v. continental, etc.), there's > not always a straight path in service ranks. Those officer appointments > are from the county order books, so they stand as proof. But you have > dates within the DAR range, including the supply of provisions. > > I'm also pretty sure Vivion is still in the DAR Patriot Index, so his > service is already accepted and you just have to prove descent from him. > You can request a check on his status at the DAR site. > > Happy 2009 to all! > Pam in CA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DANIEL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jack,   Vivion Daniel Sr. who married Elizabeth Vivion died in 1803 in Clark County, Ky. I have his will.   He had a son Vivion Daniel, Jr. who I never traced. I am thinking this must be him. If it is I descend from Vivion Daniel and Marggaret Vivion's daughter  Frances who married John Dale. This would be her brother I suspect.   Marianne Dillow     --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Jack Butler <jackvbutler@comcast.net> wrote: From: Jack Butler <jackvbutler@comcast.net> Subject: [DANIEL] Vivion Daniel - a couple of other notes. To: DANIEL@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 5:40 PM Since I was playing around in my subscription databases, I tried Vivion Daniel in GenealogyBank.com and found two references: On Saturday, 27 November 1813, Vivion Daniel ran an advertisment in The Reporter, a newspaper in Lexington, Kentucky. The ad said that Vivion Daniel had "taken up" a sorrell horse. The ad describes the horse in some detail and sets the appraised value at $18. The ad was placed by the local Justice of the Peace. I believe that he had found this horse and was giving the owner a chance to regain or sell him the horse. He signed the "Memorial of citizens of Hardinsburg, Kentucky, in favor of a restoration of the deposites. April 8, 1834". By one of those odd little coincidences in life, I just finished reading a new book about Andrew Jackson last night and recognized this memorial as a plea to Congress to force the Excutive Branch of the U.S. Government to restore recently removed U.S. funds deposits to the United States Bank. Andrew Jackson believed the bank to be a dangerously corrupting influence on the government (Congressmen who supported bills the bank favored tended to get substantial loans at very favorable rates.) so he removed all U. S. funds from the national bank and deposited them in various State banks. It was a huge political battle in 1834, but Jackson won and the Banked ceased to exist. Jack Butler   

Hi Pam,   I think he is accepted. I messed up as there was one more where he had resigned and I forgot to copy it off. The library is 70 miles away. But this would provide proof surely. Thanks a lot. :)   Marianne Dillow     --- On Tue, 1/6/09, P. A. Miller <gen@pamiller.net> wrote: From: P. A. Miller <gen@pamiller.net> Subject: Re: [DANIEL] Vivion Daniel Rev War Record, Orange Co., Va. To: DANIEL@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:23 PM Hey, Marianne, you wrote: > Those two sources sounds so confusing as to their dates. [snip] > The Captain and the dates is what is bothering me. [snip] > If I wanted to join the DAR I would have to be able to prove it. :) Men were so in and out of service at various ranks and in different organizations (county v. state, militia v. continental, etc.), there's not always a straight path in service ranks. Those officer appointments are from the county order books, so they stand as proof. But you have dates within the DAR range, including the supply of provisions. I'm also pretty sure Vivion is still in the DAR Patriot Index, so his service is already accepted and you just have to prove descent from him. You can request a check on his status at the DAR site. Happy 2009 to all! Pam in CA

Hey, Marianne, you wrote: > Those two sources sounds so confusing as to their dates. [snip] > The Captain and the dates is what is bothering me. [snip] > If I wanted to join the DAR I would have to be able to prove it. :) Men were so in and out of service at various ranks and in different organizations (county v. state, militia v. continental, etc.), there's not always a straight path in service ranks. Those officer appointments are from the county order books, so they stand as proof. But you have dates within the DAR range, including the supply of provisions. I'm also pretty sure Vivion is still in the DAR Patriot Index, so his service is already accepted and you just have to prove descent from him. You can request a check on his status at the DAR site. Happy 2009 to all! Pam in CA

Hi Pam,   Thanks for sending this info. I did see the record on the drum. LOL !   Those two sources sounds so confusing as to their dates,. I know they have Vivion  (Vivian)Daniel as a Sergeant on Ancestry as I subscribe to it. But I don't know about the Captain info.   Also Vivion Daniel did serve on Orange County Commitee of Safety with James Madison 1774-1775. The Captain and the dates is what is bothering me. I would like to know when he left service and the true rank he held. If I wanted to join the DAR I would have to be able to prove it. :)   Best Wishes, Marianne  Dillow   From: P. A. Miller <gen@pamiller.net> Subject: Re: [DANIEL] Vivion Daniel Rev War Record, Orange Co., Va. To: DANIEL@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 1:09 AM Hi, Marianne, Here are a couple other records for Vivion's county services (esp his appointments). [my comments in straight brackets] Virginia's Colonial Soldiers. by Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck 1988 County Militia Rosters, in court minutes and orders: Orange 26 Aug 1762, Robert Thomas, Capt.; Vivion Daniel, Lt.; Alexander King Guttery, Lt. [This is from OB 6, p.669] 22 Sep 1774, Zachary Taylor, Capt.; Vivian Daniel, Capt.; Jonathan Taylor, Lt. [This is from OB 7, but I don't have the page] A fuller abstract of Orange OB6-669: 26 Aug 1762 oaths for officers: Robert Thomas, Gent as Captain, Vivion Daniel and Alexander King Guttery as Lts., Elijah Fennel as a Constable. Vivion also claimed or was paid "for a Drum furnished for his Comp'y Orange Militia, 2.0.0" 19 May 1777. [from VA Military Records, from VA Mag of Hist and Bio, Wm and Mary College Quarterly, and Tyler's Quarterly. 1983] Virginia Revolutionary "Publick" Claims. by Janice L. Abercrombie and Richard Slatten 1992 [v.1-3 they give sources in parentheses] -Vivion Daniel for 575# beef, Sep 1781, £5.19.9 1.2 (Orange Co Ct Bklt p8) -[list of certifs and recpt grtd by Commrs of the Provision Law 1780] Vivion Daniels (Orange Co Lists p3) -[return of beevves collected by Benjamin Winslow 1781 (beeves)] Vivion Daniel (Orange Co Lists p16) There is no pension application for Vivion. Regards, Pam in CA marianne dillow wrote: > Vivion Daniel > > I am trying to get his Rev War service straightened out. He served on the Orange County Safety Commitee with James Madison 1774-1775. > > According to Va. Military Records from the Magazine of History and Biography ; Wm & Mary and Tylers Quarterly, Vivion Daniel was a Captain in the Orange Co., Va Militia, resigning 23 May 1776. Also, it is stated he is reported as having pay for Service in Col. Taylor's Regiment, Aug 1779 (See McAlister's Virginia Militia.) > > According to Gwathney, Vivion Daniel was in the Orange County, Va Militia and resigned 7 Feb 1777. Served as a Sergeant in Col. Taylor's Regiment. I don't know if there was a pension or not. > > Any help in straightening this war record out would greatly be appreciated.   

Hi, Marianne, Here are a couple other records for Vivion's county services (esp his appointments). [my comments in straight brackets] Virginia's Colonial Soldiers. by Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck 1988 County Militia Rosters, in court minutes and orders: Orange 26 Aug 1762, Robert Thomas, Capt.; Vivion Daniel, Lt.; Alexander King Guttery, Lt. [This is from OB 6, p.669] 22 Sep 1774, Zachary Taylor, Capt.; Vivian Daniel, Capt.; Jonathan Taylor, Lt. [This is from OB 7, but I don't have the page] A fuller abstract of Orange OB6-669: 26 Aug 1762 oaths for officers: Robert Thomas, Gent as Captain, Vivion Daniel and Alexander King Guttery as Lts., Elijah Fennel as a Constable. Vivion also claimed or was paid "for a Drum furnished for his Comp'y Orange Militia, 2.0.0" 19 May 1777. [from VA Military Records, from VA Mag of Hist and Bio, Wm and Mary College Quarterly, and Tyler's Quarterly. 1983] Virginia Revolutionary "Publick" Claims. by Janice L. Abercrombie and Richard Slatten 1992 [v.1-3 they give sources in parentheses] -Vivion Daniel for 575# beef, Sep 1781, £5.19.9 1.2 (Orange Co Ct Bklt p8) -[list of certifs and recpt grtd by Commrs of the Provision Law 1780] Vivion Daniels (Orange Co Lists p3) -[return of beevves collected by Benjamin Winslow 1781 (beeves)] Vivion Daniel (Orange Co Lists p16) There is no pension application for Vivion. Regards, Pam in CA marianne dillow wrote: > Vivion Daniel > > I am trying to get his Rev War service straightened out. He served on the Orange County Safety Commitee with James Madison 1774-1775. > > According to Va. Military Records from the Magazine of History and Biography ; Wm & Mary and Tylers Quarterly, Vivion Daniel was a Captain in the Orange Co., Va Militia, resigning 23 May 1776. Also, it is stated he is reported as having pay for Service in Col. Taylor's Regiment, Aug 1779 (See McAlister's Virginia Militia.) > > According to Gwathney, Vivion Daniel was in the Orange County, Va Militia and resigned 7 Feb 1777. Served as a Sergeant in Col. Taylor's Regiment. I don't know if there was a pension or not. > > Any help in straightening this war record out would greatly be appreciated.

I will see if this copy and paste will come through without all of the garble on my previous posting. Here goes. LOL !   I made a typo earlier. Vivion Daniel was married to Elizabeth Vivion not Margaret Vivion.     Vivion Daniel who married Elizabeth Vivion are my 4th great grandparents. They lived in Orange County, Va annd moved ca 1791 to Fayette Co., Ky and  Vivion died 1803 in Clark Co., Ky. and left his will which I have a copy of.   I am trying to get his Rev War service straightened out. He served on the Orange County Safety Commitee with James Madison 1774-1775.   According to Va. Military Records from the Magazine of History and Biography ; Wm & Mary and Tylers Quarterly,  Vivion Daniel was a Captain in the Orange Co., Va Militia, resigning 23 May 1776. Also, it is stated he is reported as having pay for Service in Col. Taylor's Regiment, Aug 1779 (See McAlister's Virginia Militia.)   According to Gwathney, Vivion Daniel was in the Orange County, Va Militia and resigned 7 Feb 1777. Served as a Sergeant in Col. Taylor's Regiment. I don't know if there was a pension or not.   Any help in straightening this war record out would greatly be appreciated.   Marianne Dillow Illinois

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Vivion Daniel who married Elizabeth Vivion are my 4th great grandparents. They lived in Orange County, Va annd moved ca 1791 to Fayette Co., Ky and  Vivion died 1803 in Clark Co., Ky. and left his will which I have a copy of.   I am trying to get his Rev War service straightened out. He served on the Orange County Safety Commitee with James Madison 1774-1775.   According to Va. Military Records from the Magazine of History and Biography ; Wm & Mary and Tylers Quarterly,  Vivion Daniel was a Captain in the Orange Co., Va Militia, resigning 23 May 1776. Also, it is stated he is reported as having pay for Service in Col. Taylor's Regiment, Aug 1779 (See McAlister's Virginia Militia.)   According to Gwathney, Vivion Daniel was in the Orange County, Va Militia and resigned 7 Feb 1777. Served as a Sergeant in Col. Taylor's Regiment. I don't know if there was a pension or not.   Any help in straightening this war record out would greatly be appreciated.   Marianne Dillow Illinois

That would be Mary Daniel Wilson, sorry! Begin forwarded message: > From: Payne Daniel <gpdfla@tampabay.rr.com> > Date: January 5, 2009 11:21:21 AM PST > To: Daniel List <DANIEL-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [DANIEL] Algernon Wilson > > Can any one enlighten me on Algernon Wilson the supposed father of > Sarah Daniel Wilson who married one Thomas Drayton? > > What we need is a transcript etc. of the Will of old Algernon. I can > come up with his estate inventory but an acquaintance needs to see > that will. > > Genealogy: Daniel/Proctor/Wilson/Drayton perhaps Charleston South > Carolina > > Paynecaso > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DANIEL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Can any one enlighten me on Algernon Wilson the supposed father of Sarah Daniel Wilson who married one Thomas Drayton? What we need is a transcript etc. of the Will of old Algernon. I can come up with his estate inventory but an acquaintance needs to see that will. Genealogy: Daniel/Proctor/Wilson/Drayton perhaps Charleston South Carolina Paynecaso

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Magnoliaeast Surnames: Nelson, Daniel, Reynolds, Pressly, Pulley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/1642.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Karen, this is my ancestry line also. I will share what I have. Look forward to hearing from you & please tell me your connection. My connection is their first child/son: William Alexander Nelson. Ellen Nelson Hodge / Magnoliaeast@rocketmail.com SC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Magnoliaeast Surnames: Nelson, Daniel, Reynolds, Pressly, Pulley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/1642.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Karen, this is my ancestry line also. I will share what I have. Look forward to hearing from you & please tell me your connection. My connection is their first child/son: William Alexander Nelson. Ellen Nelson Hodge SC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GayleSmallwood Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2136.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know that I can help you much. You've certainly helped me though! Arthur & Cassie Daniel are my great-great grandparents on my father's mother's side. Art & Cassie's daughter Mattie married my great-grandfather Lee Allen Smith. My father has told me that Arthur was called "Big Art" because of his unusual height and that during WWI, although he was too old to serve, he went to a local manufacturing facility to work and support the war effort. When questioned about how long he would be working, he said it would only be until the war was over because he had a farm to take care of. I'll have to ask him about it again because I think there were a couple of other things. Do you have any further information on Cassie's parents or who Issac Daniel's parents are? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

A quick correction, In 1932, Derrill M. Daniel wasn't graduating Cornell, he was on the staff of the New York State Agricultural Experiment Station, Geneva, NY. It was a bulletin published under authority of Cornell. Pam in CA

Hi, John, John R. Clarke wrote: > Does anyone know this person? > In 1963 he was the President of Gordon Military College, > so he was one of the signers of my HS Diploma. [snip] > I wonder which Daniel line he was out of if anyone knows. A quick hunt this morning. 1930 Geneva, Ontario, New York Derrill M. Daniel 24 SC Theodora Daniel 22 [google shows he was getting an M.S. at Cornell, graduated 1932] 1920 Indian, Williamsburg, South Carolina, all b. SC SC SC Dodd Daniel 48 Hattie B Daniel 41 Dodd Daniel 16 Derrill Daniel 14 Trenholm Daniel 12 Harry P Daniel 2 1910 Indian, Williamsburg, South Carolina, all b. SC SC SC William D Daniels 31 Hariet B Daniels 31 William D Daniels Jr. 6 Derrill M Daniels 4 George F Daniels 3 Hariet M Daniels 9/12 1900 Indian, Williamsburg, South Carolina, all b. SC SC SC William D David 27 Sarah J McCutchen 51 aunt 1880 Ridge, Williamsburg, South, all b. SC SC SC James D. Singletary 63 Martha M. Singletary 57 Theresa M. Singletary 23 William J. Singletary 21 Martha M. Daniels 10 grandchild William D. Daniels 8 grandchild Death Certif for Wm. Dodd Daniel, SC Williamsburg, d. 17 Dec 1944 in Johnson Twp, bur. Indiantown Cem, ae 73, s/o W. J. Daniel and Mary Singletary, both b. Williamsburg 1870 ??? 1860 Williamsburg, Williamsburg, SC, all b. SC J D Daniel 39 Margaret Daniel 32 W J Daniel 11 male E J Daniel 9 female J D Daniel 7 male [indexed as J. L., but it's not.] M A Daniel 5 female J C Daniel 3 male E A Daniel 1 female 1850 Williamsburg, Williamsburg, SC, all b. SC James D Daniel 27 Margaret Daniel 21 William J Daniel 1 they are right next to: William Daniel 63 Martha Daniel 36 Sarah M Daniel 31 Frederick R Haselden 13 William M Haselden 9 Stephen D Haselden 8 James A Haselden 6 Jefferson R Haselden 3 1840 Williamsburg SC William Daniel 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 - 0 0 0 0 3 1830 Williamsburg SC [only 2 Daniel's listed in Williamsburg] William Daniel 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 - 0 0 2 2 listed next to Martha Daniel 0 1 - 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1820 Williamsburg SC William Daniel 0 0 0 0 1 0 - 5 0 0 1 next to John Daniel 0 0 0 0 1 0 - no femals next to James Daniel 0 0 0 0 0 1 - 0 0 2 8 names in D list from A. John Daniel 0 0 0 0 1 0 - 1 0 0 1 1 [the only one w/female eligible to be the Martha of 1830] 1810 Williamsburg SC James Daniel 0 1 1 0 1 - 1 2 0 0 1 1800, the only James in SC James in Orangeburg 0 1 0 1 0 - 1 2 0 1 0 James in Edgefield 0 0 0 0 1 - 0 0 1 0 1 There's a worldconnect gedcom that may put that 1820 group of William, John and James as sons of James Daniel and ---Hawthorn; this James had a will in 1816 SC Edgefield, and the Hathorn is based on will of G. Hawthorn in 1820 Williamsburg. But the children (incl daughters) named for the James and --- Hawthorn Daniel are a better fit for the Orangeburg James in 1800??? This gedcom belongs to Linda Marchand (lgmarchand@cox.net) That's a quick look, Pam in CA

Does anyone know this person? In 1963 he was the President of Gordon Military College, so he was one of the signers of my HS Diploma. I do not remember him because I spent very little time in the administrative offices of Gordon. I remember Col. C. T. B. Harris, well, but only have vague remembrances of Col. Daniel. I wonder which Daniel line he was out of if anyone knows. SSG John R. Clarke, PIO, 1st BN, 1ST BDE, SC State Guard 410 Highland Ave. Batesburg, SC 29006-1311 803-604-5189

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rodtree20744 Surnames: Richardson, Green, Lynch Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/1265.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jean, I do have a connection with Daniels from Roanoke Rapids. Ralie Daniel married my great aunt Nancy Ella Green (Nacella)My research tells me that Ralie's father was June Daniel who married Matilda Lynch who was my 1st 3 times removed. I would love to share information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angharod1 Surnames: DANIEL, COFFEE, ELLIS, JOHNSON, PATRICK, WALTHALL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/786.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You might try an online search; using Google I found this: http://www.familyhistory101.com/maps/tn_cm.html It's interactive, with a slideshow showing the county formations from 1790. It solved a little mystery for me, and there is a sidebar full of links for other helpful sites. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.