Annie, I doubt that this will help, but I'll give it a try. In my records I have a Josef CERNY born in 1807, probably in Teskov, Zbiroh Manor, which is near Rokycany, I believe. He had a brother Jozefa b. 1812, and there were other children born to Vojtech CERNY and Johanna WILT. Vojtech married (2) Magdalena KRIZOVA whose daughter Katerina was my great-great grandmother. This Josef is too early to be the one you are looking for, but I wonder if the families might be related. Can you go further back on Charles or Marie/Mary? I got my information from Dr. Koudelka of the Czech Republic who did some really good research for me. Molly Subject: Re: [CZ] CERNY, Joseph -- missing If anyone has a Jospeh CERNY/CERNEY whose parents were Frank and Marie/Mary MUDRA CERNY, I would appreciate hearing from them. I am missing one. My CERNY/CERNEY family came from Ujezd Medovy, Rokycany County, Bohemia near Prague. I have the lines of all except Joseph, who I cannot find. They immigrated in 1881 and after spending some time in NY joined the oldest son, John, who was in Mitchell County, IA. In 1891 most of them moved to southern MN and have been in MN since. However, I have not been able to find Joseph, who, I keep hearing possibly stayed in IA someplace. I do not have a birth place for Frank, but the youngest son, my grandfather Charles was born in Ujezd Medovy, Rokycany County, Bohemia. However, according to her obit his mother, Marie/Mary was born in Syra, Rokycany County, Bohemia. Annie in Minnesota