Hey, Ron! "Genealogical Research for Czech and Slovak Americans" by Olga K. Miller (former Research Consultant, LDS Genealogical Library, Salt Lake City, Utah) lists "Names" beginning on page 86. It has five parallel columns for Czech, Slovak, Latin, German and English. In the "V--male" section it lists in appropriate columns the following: Vaclav Vaclav Blank Wenceslaus Wenceslaus So the English version of Vaclav is Wenceslaus (NOT JAMES, AMEN!). I agree that old Czech did contain a W, which was pronounced as a V, and subsequently changed to a V. The current Czech alphabet does not contain a W. I have never heard of a Czech name Wenzel, either with a V or W. As you note, it is probably German. There is probably a source somewhere that would give its English equivalent, and maybe Czech. If we have German readers out there maybe one of them might please respond out of their Germanic background. Joe

what I'm thinking on this, is that Wenzel was maybe changed to that in America as a Germanic name, instead of the old Vaclav which they had in BOhemia/Czechoslovakia......I'd say depending of course on what kind of church you attended in America, German, or......whatever ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph O. Pecenka To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] "W" Hey, Ron! "Genealogical Research for Czech and Slovak Americans" by Olga K. Miller (former Research Consultant, LDS Genealogical Library, Salt Lake City, Utah) lists "Names" beginning on page 86. It has five parallel columns for Czech, Slovak, Latin, German and English. In the "V--male" section it lists in appropriate columns the following: Vaclav Vaclav Blank Wenceslaus Wenceslaus So the English version of Vaclav is Wenceslaus (NOT JAMES, AMEN!). I agree that old Czech did contain a W, which was pronounced as a V, and subsequently changed to a V. The current Czech alphabet does not contain a W. I have never heard of a Czech name Wenzel, either with a V or W. As you note, it is probably German. There is probably a source somewhere that would give its English equivalent, and maybe Czech. If we have German readers out there maybe one of them might please respond out of their Germanic background. Joe ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== No off topic posts, flames, virus warnings, prayers, jokes, chain letters, etc. Violators will be placed on message monitoring and/or lose subscription privileges. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/04