Thanks Sandy -- and no, you didn't go on too long. That's really how we learn from one another - by hearing all the steps. I think I will need to do the same as you - scour the individual manifests. And just hope that the manifest actually exists. I have been in touch with NARA and the years I need from them are not indexed. I have found names that match my family somewhat but the ages don't seem to match; I'm also assuming the family traveled together. Thanks again for responding. Susan W.