In a message dated 3/18/2004 9:00:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time, CZECH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: My tree is getting large enough that an 8x11" piece of paper won't do. HOw are people designing their trees? Judi writes above..... Hi Judi ! You could go to Legal size ( USA) at 8.5 x 14, or Ledger size at 11 x 17. You can find these at any decent copy place. You may also find a poster size, say 20 x 30. ( ? ) take your larger paper and "fold it" to 8.5 11 so that it might fit in you binder, or scrapbook custom size. Cut around on the left side so to leave a tab, that is for your 3 holes of the binder. Im to the point of wanting to print up one large tree and put it on a disk and take to my ( professional ) local copy place and print it from a disk. If its a good place they will have a larger printer that will print on larger paper, even say paper that might be really large like what an architect might have for blueprints! Kinko's is good for this, they have already told me they can do it! I imagine, depending on what the newer versions of Family Tree Maker looks like, I'll use it OR I may just use MS Excel, its infinite, and expandable for sure. I'll print w/o the grid lines, then maybe add my tree lines later. Tho I havent played with this yet so I dont know how it will work on Excel. At my local Michael's craft store here in the USA, look in their custon paper section for scrapbooks, just this past weekend I saw they had 8.5 x 11 custom printed paper ( Co. was in UT ) with a Family Tree printed on it, but only 3 generations I think. IF somebody doesnt have a Michaels close to them, and would like to see it. let me know, I'll make a trip and scan and send you a copy and if you approve, Ill buy more and send to you at your cost. ( OR trade for Pivo* ! ) Scrapbook stores are popping up all over, I would check with them too, also Art supply stores, paper, poster paper/board / large binders.... Regards, Mike in AZ SWARTZ~SVARC / CERNY / HAJEK / HOSEK / KREISSINGER / CERMAK / PERGLA AZ / COAL CITY, IL / Lom U Mostu / Zloukovice / Sebecice / Duchcov / Praha ( pee-vo ) PIVO = Beer