Indeed, Honza is a diminutive for Jan. List Administration wrote: >This is a forwarded message > >From: Rosemary Bodien <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] >Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2006, 2:45:11 PM >Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [CZ] John > > >Listers, > >Makes it even more interesting that Jan is also Jenda or Honza in the >Czech language ! > >Rosie in WA State >On Mar 28, 2006, at 11:25 AM, ETM wrote: > > > >>It is interesting and probably proves that our >>grandparents and earlier didn't much care what >>people called them <smile>. I am 100 years old >>(not quite, but getting there), and I am among >>those left over from an earlier time who also >>don't much care if people get the name right or >>wrong. It is important to many, it is not >>important to me. I don't think it was important to >>my family in the 1800s and 1900s. I suspect it is >>government and business that has made spellings >>(and dossier/social security numbers) an important >>matter, an ability to trace and identify people. >> >>Elaine >> >>People demand freedom of speech to make up >>for the freedom of thought which they avoid. >>--Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855) >> >>Hello Joan >> >>On Tuesday, March 28, 2006, you wrote >> >> >> >>>In the Chicago Catholic Churches I find the >>>change to James, and other names >>>Americanized, appearing about 1914/15. I have >>>found baptism records which >>>state Vaclav on one bapt and Wences on another. >>> >>> >>>St Wenceslaus Church used the term "Wenceslaus" almost exclusively for >>>Vaclav and interchanging was a normal procedure of the scribe as many >>>scribes wrote in the record books through the years. >>> >>> >>>Some surnames changed from baptism to baptism >>>with a few letters or in some >>>cases where the scribe wrote the "new" name in parens above the >>>other--similar to the original but simplified. It is interesting. >>> >>> >>>Joan Smart Peterson >>> >>> >> >> >>==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >>All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively >>handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal >>problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an >>email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate >>for list discussion. >> >> >> > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >Czech Message Boards are at >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic > > > > >

I thought it was the "diminutive" for Johann, the Germanized version of Jan. :-D At 03:14 PM 03/28/2006, you wrote: >Indeed, Honza is a diminutive for Jan. > >List Administration wrote: > >>This is a forwarded message >> >>From: Rosemary Bodien <[email protected]> >> >>To: [email protected] >>Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2006, 2:45:11 PM >>Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [CZ] John >> >> >>Listers, >> >>Makes it even more interesting that Jan is also Jenda or Honza in >>the Czech language ! >> >>Rosie in WA State >>On Mar 28, 2006, at 11:25 AM, ETM wrote: >> >> >> >>>It is interesting and probably proves that our >>>grandparents and earlier didn't much care what >>>people called them <smile>. I am 100 years old >>>(not quite, but getting there), and I am among >>>those left over from an earlier time who also >>>don't much care if people get the name right or >>>wrong. It is important to many, it is not >>>important to me. I don't think it was important to >>>my family in the 1800s and 1900s. I suspect it is >>>government and business that has made spellings >>>(and dossier/social security numbers) an important >>>matter, an ability to trace and identify people. >>> >>>Elaine >>> >>>People demand freedom of speech to make up >>>for the freedom of thought which they avoid. >>>--Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855) >>> >>>Hello Joan >>> >>>On Tuesday, March 28, 2006, you wrote >>> >>> >>> >>>>In the Chicago Catholic Churches I find the >>>>change to James, and other names >>>>Americanized, appearing about 1914/15. I have >>>>found baptism records which >>>>state Vaclav on one bapt and Wences on another. >>>> >>>> >>>>St Wenceslaus Church used the term "Wenceslaus" almost exclusively for >>>>Vaclav and interchanging was a normal procedure of the scribe as many >>>>scribes wrote in the record books through the years. >>>> >>>> >>>>Some surnames changed from baptism to baptism >>>>with a few letters or in some >>>>cases where the scribe wrote the "new" name in parens above the >>>>other--similar to the original but simplified. It is interesting. >>>> >>>> >>>>Joan Smart Peterson >>>> >>> >>> >>>==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >>>All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively >>>handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal >>>problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an >>>email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate >>>for list discussion. >>> >>> >> >> >>==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >>Czech Message Boards are at >>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic >> >> >> >> > > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >Czech Message Boards are at >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic