Hi Dolores, My Volume VI, page 16, has the following: ANTRO, Jan 43, Anna 34, Valers 21, Antonia 16, Franz 9, Felix 8, Prodeslady, Bohemia: Moravia, 23 December 1885. Please note, the name is listed as ANTRO, not ANTROS. Page 89 has the following: JANECEK, Voiteck 15, Antonia 9, Prodeslady, Bohemia; Moravia, 23 December 1885. Hope that helps. Paul L. Reeves Union City, California -------------- Original message -------------- From: dolores desideri <[email protected]> > Would someone check Baca for Jan and Anna Antros, Voitech and Antonia > Janecek, and . The ship was Moravia, Dec. 1885 to New York. My library > has an old addition. > > > dolores desideri > Looking for: Desideri, Innocenti, Lupori, Lenzi, Priban, Preban, > Janecek, and Antos. > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to search our archives, please visit > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CZECH >

Dolores -- I was just too curious. I looked on shettle seeker - first putting in Prodeslady -- nothing came up. Then I tried just Prodes and up came the following in the Czech Republic - Brodce, Prodlas (with two little dots over the o) -- it is 57.5 miles WNW of Praha. Here is the shettle seeker: http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/LocTown.asp You can find it on the map easier -- or find something else that looks closer to it. Remember what was transcribed or written in the manifest was what the name of the town sounded like to the writer -- unless the traveler had an official document with the correct name. Hope this helps. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] Baca check please > Hi Dolores, > > My Volume VI, page 16, has the following: > > ANTRO, Jan 43, Anna 34, Valers 21, Antonia 16, Franz 9, Felix 8, > Prodeslady, Bohemia: Moravia, 23 December 1885. > > Please note, the name is listed as ANTRO, not ANTROS. > > Page 89 has the following: > > JANECEK, Voiteck 15, Antonia 9, Prodeslady, Bohemia; Moravia, 23 > December 1885. > > Hope that helps. > > Paul L. Reeves > Union City, California > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: dolores desideri <[email protected]> > >> Would someone check Baca for Jan and Anna Antros, Voitech and Antonia >> Janecek, and . The ship was Moravia, Dec. 1885 to New York. My library >> has an old addition. >> >> >> dolores desideri >> Looking for: Desideri, Innocenti, Lupori, Lenzi, Priban, Preban, >> Janecek, and Antos. >> >> >> >> ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >> If you'd like to search our archives, please visit >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CZECH >> > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively > handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal > problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an > email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate > for list discussion. > >

Are there various versions of the different volumes of the Baca book? I've also spent quite some time looking for my Had and Broz/Brosch ancestors and remaining two Komrska brothers, but gave up on the Baca books as they didn't have anything. Should I be looking for a more recent version than what my library has? I don't have the name of the ship, however. Dolores, I was wondering how you got that information to know what ship to look for? I just have a year of emigration from census records. So I ordered a film for that year and found nothing. I also went through all the listing of passengers on the internet site for those years, as well as subscribed for one year to Ancestry.com's ship records. The only thing that subscription brought me was finding the Komrska parents (gggrfather) and five siblings - which I've since learned were "half" siblings. I was successful with finding my ggf Malecek in the Baca books, though, and lucked out in finding my ggrfather) Komrska - but I'm still missing two of his brothers as the whole family emigrated over a 5 year period. My ggrandparents Had and Broz came over as children, so the family was probably all together. Carol -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CZ] Baca check please Hi Dolores, My Volume VI, page 16, has the following: ANTRO, Jan 43, Anna 34, Valers 21, Antonia 16, Franz 9, Felix 8, Prodeslady, Bohemia: Moravia, 23 December 1885. Please note, the name is listed as ANTRO, not ANTROS. Page 89 has the following: JANECEK, Voiteck 15, Antonia 9, Prodeslady, Bohemia; Moravia, 23 December 1885. Hope that helps. Paul L. Reeves Union City, California -------------- Original message -------------- From: dolores desideri <[email protected]> > Would someone check Baca for Jan and Anna Antros, Voitech and Antonia > Janecek, and . The ship was Moravia, Dec. 1885 to New York. My library > has an old addition. > > > dolores desideri > Looking for: Desideri, Innocenti, Lupori, Lenzi, Priban, Preban, > Janecek, and Antos. > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to search our archives, please visit > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CZECH > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate for list discussion.

As for me, I found the ship name on the baca list for my DVORAK family. There were two older and two younger children in the family. i surmised that the elder children came to the US with their parents, and sure enough i was right! There on the manifest of the SS FRISIA were my two great grandparents and their 2 eldest children! I was soooooooooooo excited to find that! Your ship you seek will be listed in whatever volume of the Baca books they will be found in, depending on what year they arrived. Carol Rogers wrote: >Are there various versions of the different volumes of the Baca book? I've >also spent quite some time looking for my Had and Broz/Brosch ancestors and >remaining two Komrska brothers, but gave up on the Baca books as they didn't >have anything. Should I be looking for a more recent version than what my >library has? I don't have the name of the ship, however. > >Dolores, I was wondering how you got that information to know what ship to >look for? I just have a year of emigration from census records. So I >ordered a film for that year and found nothing. I also went through all the >listing of passengers on the internet site for those years, as well as >subscribed for one year to Ancestry.com's ship records. The only thing that >subscription brought me was finding the Komrska parents (gggrfather) and >five siblings - which I've since learned were "half" siblings. I was >successful with finding my ggf Malecek in the Baca books, though, and lucked >out in finding my ggrfather) Komrska - but I'm still missing two of his >brothers as the whole family emigrated over a 5 year period. My >ggrandparents Had and Broz came over as children, so the family was probably >all together. > >Carol > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:46 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [CZ] Baca check please > > >Hi Dolores, > >My Volume VI, page 16, has the following: > >ANTRO, Jan 43, Anna 34, Valers 21, Antonia 16, Franz 9, Felix 8, >Prodeslady, Bohemia: Moravia, 23 December 1885. > >Please note, the name is listed as ANTRO, not ANTROS. > >Page 89 has the following: > >JANECEK, Voiteck 15, Antonia 9, Prodeslady, Bohemia; Moravia, 23 >December 1885. > >Hope that helps. > >Paul L. Reeves >Union City, California > >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: dolores desideri <[email protected]> > > > >>Would someone check Baca for Jan and Anna Antros, Voitech and Antonia >>Janecek, and . The ship was Moravia, Dec. 1885 to New York. My library >>has an old addition. >> >> >>dolores desideri >>Looking for: Desideri, Innocenti, Lupori, Lenzi, Priban, Preban, >>Janecek, and Antos. >> >> >> >>==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >>If you'd like to search our archives, please visit >>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CZECH >> >> >> > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively >handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal >problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an >email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate >for list discussion. > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without >permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use >Policy at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html. > > > >

Carol, Baca Volume III has just been revised in 2005 or '06, which implies that revisions of other volumes may follow. You want to know how to find the ship name? It is listed on Ancestry, sometimes with a link to a photo of the ship. It is in Baca as the underlined word following the port of entry, e.g., Baltimore, Main, Leipzig, Olbers, Bark Olbers, America, Lessing, etc. There is also PILI (Psgr. Imm. Lists Index) by P. William Filby, which I have not seen mentioned in these immigration and ships threads by anyone other than myself. It comes in about 25 volumes in book form at genealogy libraries, and is also included in some subscriptions of Ancestry.com. Unfortunately, it was recently removed from Ancestry's Library Edition. Also unfortunately, with the books, one must check from 5 to 20 volumes published every year since 1980, which can be time-consuming. There are 5-year supplements, though it is unclear to me whether these are complete summaries for the preceding 5 years. Ancestry's search engine, however, presumably searches all volumes in nano-seconds. FYI: In general, PILI refers the reader to other sources such as Baca or Rosicky, which one must then track down, but I have never failed to find a Czech ancestor of mine in PILI, both direct and collateral. Not all of the PILI sources, however, are very complete; some are, some are not. One still has to have at least some knowledge of German and Czech in order to surmise how German sea-captains and Anglo-American officials would butcher Slavic spellings. If you have no access to th above resources, please let me know, and the next time I am at BPL-TCSH&L, I will try to find some time to look up your Komrskas, Bosches, etc., but I will need more specific information on them. Anthony ====================================================== Carol Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: Are there various versions of the different volumes of the Baca book? I've also spent quite some time looking for my Had and Broz/Brosch ancestors and remaining two Komrska brothers, but gave up on the Baca books as they didn't have anything. Should I be looking for a more recent version than what my library has? I don't have the name of the ship, however. Dolores, I was wondering how you got that information to know what ship to look for? I just have a year of emigration from census records. So I ordered a film for that year and found nothing. I also went through all the listing of passengers on the internet site for those years, as well as subscribed for one year to Ancestry.com's ship records. The only thing that subscription brought me was finding the Komrska parents (gggrfather) and five siblings - which I've since learned were "half" siblings. I was successful with finding my ggf Malecek in the Baca books, though, and lucked out in finding my ggrfather) Komrska - but I'm still missing two of his brothers as the whole family emigrated over a 5 year period. My ggrandparents Had and Broz came over as children, so the family was probably all together. Carol -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CZ] Baca check please Hi Dolores, My Volume VI, page 16, has the following: ANTRO, Jan 43, Anna 34, Valers 21, Antonia 16, Franz 9, Felix 8, Prodeslady, Bohemia: Moravia, 23 December 1885. Please note, the name is listed as ANTRO, not ANTROS. Page 89 has the following: JANECEK, Voiteck 15, Antonia 9, Prodeslady, Bohemia; Moravia, 23 December 1885. Hope that helps. Paul L. Reeves Union City, California -------------- Original message -------------- From: dolores desideri > Would someone check Baca for Jan and Anna Antros, Voitech and Antonia > Janecek, and . The ship was Moravia, Dec. 1885 to New York. My library > has an old addition. > > > dolores desideri > Looking for: Desideri, Innocenti, Lupori, Lenzi, Priban, Preban, > Janecek, and Antos. > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to search our archives, please visit > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CZECH > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate for list discussion. ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html. --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.