This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/3447.2.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Jerry Ann Do you have his naturalization certificate when you say you have his naturalization papers? The certificate does not hold any information pertinent to the research only the courthouse where the papers were filed. The social security numbers came into in 1936 so possible he did or did not apply for them. http://ssdi.rootsweb.com Have you tried the church to see if there might be any information?