Jiri Mlejnek mentioned the web site with the names of the Czech Legionaires which is described as a list of those who died while serving in the Czech Legion. http://www.pamatnik.valka.cz/novy/cz/informace.php I have never heard of the Czech Legion so Jiri sent me a site in English describing their accomplishments: http://web.mac.com/czechlegion/iWeb/TheCzechLegion/Introduction.html It is called the greatest story never told and it is incredible indeed. The politics are incredibly messy, but as I understand it, it all started with 100,000 Czechs who were taken as prisoners of war by the Russian Czar's Army. The story is documented by a very short film on YouTube and 3 photo albums with descriptions of events: http://web.mac.com/czechlegion/iWeb/TheCzechLegion/Photo1.html http://web.mac.com/czechlegion/iWeb/TheCzechLegion/Photo2.html http://web.mac.com/czechlegion/iWeb/TheCzechLegion/Photo3.html It gave me a completely different perspective on WWI and how the Czechoslovak State was created. ron mlejnek

Hi Jim, frequency list can be still found on website on Ministry of Interior - but on other place than before.. http://www.mvcr.cz/sprava/informat/cetnost/index.html To help those who are not able to speak or read Czech: Mužská jména a příjmení = Male names and surnames Ženská jména a příjmení = Female names and surnames 20 nejčetnejších = 20 most frequent Hope it helps. Blanka Jim Sladek napsal(a): > I used to use the Czech Ministry of Interior ( www.mvcr.cr ) name lists > quite often in the past, but haven't tried until just recently. The old > links on Elaine's website are no longer valid and I tried to work my way > around the statisky section, but to no avail. > > Can someone fluent in Czech see if links to the male and female given > and surname databases are available? > > Thanks, > Jim Sladek > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Blanka Větrovcová wrote: > frequency list can be still found on website on Ministry of Interior - > but on other place than before.. > > http://www.mvcr.cz/sprava/informat/cetnost/index.html Blanka, Thank you for your quick response. I found that portion of the site, but wasn't certain about what I was seeing. Now that I've looked at it again, with your assurance I was in the right place, I see that they are now including foreign names (cizinci) in the database and you can download Czech and/or foreign names. Regards, Jim

To all CZECH Mail List subscribers: The web address for the CZECH Mail List web pages is as folows: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eelainetmaddox/index.htm This site is huge and contains numerous "links". At the bottom of each page is the following: If any links do not work or are considered inappropriate subject matter please contact webmaster. There is an email address to report links that do not work. If persons followed these simple instructions, the following remarks to the entire list would not be necessary: "I used to use the Czech Ministry of Interior ( www.mvcr.cr ) name lists quite often in the past, but haven't tried until just recently. The old links on Elaine's website are no longer valid and I tried to work my way around the statisky section, but to no avail." Ron Mlejnek rvmlejnek@navix.net

I used to use the Czech Ministry of Interior ( www.mvcr.cr ) name lists quite often in the past, but haven't tried until just recently. The old links on Elaine's website are no longer valid and I tried to work my way around the statisky section, but to no avail. Can someone fluent in Czech see if links to the male and female given and surname databases are available? Thanks, Jim Sladek

Hi, Judie. So sorry to hear of your loss. No problem....I've been at this for 30 years -- I'm used to being very patient! -------------- Original message -------------- From: Judith Mason <judith.mason@ameritech.net> > Jerry, > > Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Started an emai to you when I received > notice a good friend had passed away. I'll get back to you later in the week. > > Thanks for responding to my TRSEK plea. > > Judie Mason > Chicago > > jerrymartinek@comcast.net wrote: > Hi, Judith. > > Not sure if this message got through yesterday, so here it is again....The > Trsek's in my family were from Bosilec which is on Southern Bohemia, just north > of C. Budejovice. Not sure how common the name is, but I have a couple dozen > listings, but they are pretty early -- starting about 1650. I can't guarantee > that my records are of value to you, but I'm willing to share all that I have, > and can align you with a very good genealogist who can do the work locally if > you wish to see if your family's listing could be from this village. Just let me > know. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

Hi, Judith. Not sure if this message got through yesterday, so here it is again....The Trsek's in my family were from Bosilec which is on Southern Bohemia, just north of C. Budejovice. Not sure how common the name is, but I have a couple dozen listings, but they are pretty early -- starting about 1650. I can't guarantee that my records are of value to you, but I'm willing to share all that I have, and can align you with a very good genealogist who can do the work locally if you wish to see if your family's listing could be from this village. Just let me know.

Jerry, Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Started an emai to you when I received notice a good friend had passed away. I'll get back to you later in the week. Thanks for responding to my TRSEK plea. Judie Mason Chicago jerrymartinek@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Judith. Not sure if this message got through yesterday, so here it is again....The Trsek's in my family were from Bosilec which is on Southern Bohemia, just north of C. Budejovice. Not sure how common the name is, but I have a couple dozen listings, but they are pretty early -- starting about 1650. I can't guarantee that my records are of value to you, but I'm willing to share all that I have, and can align you with a very good genealogist who can do the work locally if you wish to see if your family's listing could be from this village. Just let me know. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are correct about the accuracy on any certificate and including the census'. It's just part of the puzzle. And it all depends on who is filling out the information. Sometimes the hospital fills it out and most of it is blank or "unknown." When all added up, you may have chaos or a genuinely correct history. After all, if it was easy, it wouldn't be as interesting and one wouldn't learn as much, however, one can definitely use some good news more often than not. In the 1960's there were more blank walls than I could tolerate and I gave up, especially after my one experience in hiring a researcher who really was not allowed to research for payment! Finally when I was told that he did not take the money from the bank, his friend wrote to me that he was being watched by the police, I decided it was time towithhold any more enthusiasm and quietly stopped research. Websites such as this one has quietly interjected more good news for the researcher and am grateful for it! Joan Smart/Smatt Peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Kuska" <kuska@neo.rr.com> To: <czech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] TRSEK Surname from Bohemia > Please be aware of the possibility that information on a death certificate > may not be accurate. I assume that this may be due to the stress of the > moment. For example three brothers and sisters had three different maiden > (last) names for their mother. When I contracted a Czech genealogist to > check the Czech records, I found that 2 of the 3 were close but none were > completely correct. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I'm new to this. Is there anyone out there that has relatives or ancestors from Dac'ice, Moravia, Austria [now CZ Republic]? Do you know of any Czech websites that are in English that I can search from 1851 back? I'm looking for ancestors or relatives of my great grandfather and great grandmother. Thank you so much for any help you can give me. Barbara

Please be aware of the possibility that information on a death certificate may not be accurate. I assume that this may be due to the stress of the moment. For example three brothers and sisters had three different maiden (last) names for their mother. When I contracted a Czech genealogist to check the Czech records, I found that 2 of the 3 were close but none were completely correct.

Thank you, Henry. I have also found this to be true here in Chicago. Judie Mason Henry Kuska <kuska@neo.rr.com> wrote: Please be aware of the possibility that information on a death certificate may not be accurate. I assume that this may be due to the stress of the moment. For example three brothers and sisters had three different maiden (last) names for their mother. When I contracted a Czech genealogist to check the Czech records, I found that 2 of the 3 were close but none were completely correct. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please double check or purchase all of the family's death certificates. No one in my family knew from which village my grandfather Pavlik came and in my searching decided to purchase from Illinois, all the death certificates, (at that time they were 50 cents but rose to $1.00 in the 1960's.) Only one of the certificates had the village mentioned, Pocinovice, and I was on my way! Joan Smart/Smatt Peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Mason" <judith.mason@ameritech.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: [CZ] TRSEK Surname from Bohemia > Hello Listers, > > I am trying to determine where in Bohemia my grandmother's family were > born and from where they left before coming to Chicago c. 1871/72. > > Thanks any clues. > > Judie Mason > Chicago > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Joan! Judie Mason Joan Peterson <thimbels@srt.com> wrote: Please double check or purchase all of the family's death certificates. No one in my family knew from which village my grandfather Pavlik came and in my searching decided to purchase from Illinois, all the death certificates, (at that time they were 50 cents but rose to $1.00 in the 1960's.) Only one of the certificates had the village mentioned, Pocinovice, and I was on my way! Joan Smart/Smatt Peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Mason" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: [CZ] TRSEK Surname from Bohemia > Hello Listers, > > I am trying to determine where in Bohemia my grandmother's family were > born and from where they left before coming to Chicago c. 1871/72. > > Thanks any clues. > > Judie Mason > Chicago > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Judith. The Trsek's in my family were from Bosilec which is on Southern Bohemia, just north of C. Budejovice. Not sure how common the name is, but I have a couple dozen listings, but they are pretty early -- starting in 1635. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Judith Mason <judith.mason@ameritech.net> > Hello Listers, > > I am trying to determine where in Bohemia my grandmother's family were born > and from where they left before coming to Chicago c. 1871/72. > > Thanks any clues. > > Judie Mason > Chicago > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

Hello Listers, I am trying to determine where in Bohemia my grandmother's family were born and from where they left before coming to Chicago c. 1871/72. Thanks any clues. Judie Mason Chicago

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Rosie and Jiri, Thank you very much Jiri. This is a very useful tool indeed. I followed the instructions and came to this page: http://www.vuapraha.army.cz/db/index.php There are 2 parts called: 1) Databáze s. legioná z 1. sv tové války 2) Databáze padlých p íslušník s. vojenských jednotek za 2. sv tové války I had one one problem with my browser as it did not allow me to return to page above. There are several solutions to that if anyone else has that same problem. As for the Czech "marks", I am not certain you need them. Mainly because I tried many names, but the only one that gave me results was Jiri's and my common surname which has no "marks". If anyone needs help in creating the "marks", contact me "off line". It depends on your computers operating system on how to make "marks": http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eelainetmaddox/keyboard01.htm http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/texasczech/References/Czech%20Keyboard.htm http://tlt.psu.edu/suggestions/international/keyboards/winkey.html ron At 11:31 PM 01/12/2008, you wrote: >Yes, a neat toy! Only I do not have the Czech alphabet so only could >write in those without haceks. That is ok. Very interesting!! > >http://www.vuapraha.army.cz/db/index.php > >Rosie in WA State > > >On Jan 12, 2008, at 12:42 AM, jiri mlejnek wrote: > > > Dear List, > > > if you write in the server <atlas.cz> the following: <Databaze cs. > > legionáru z 1. svetové valky>(Databasis of Czech legionists during the > > WWI), (the third position), maybe you can find relatives of your > > ancestors. > > > The other list contains some of the soldiers killed during WWII. > > > Prijmeni = surname, to write with "haceks and carka's" in capital > > letters. If you know - the birth year. If you write only the surname > > the > > list contains all (?) legionists with the mentioned name), mostly born > > between cca 1870-1900. A good toy... > > > Jiri Mlejnek > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Zagłosuj i zgarnij 10.000 złotych! > > Wybierz z nami Internetowego SportoWWWca Roku. > > Oddaj swój głos na najlepszego. - Kliknij: > > http://klik.wp.pl/? > > adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fsportowiec2007.html&sid=166 > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Yes, a neat toy! Only I do not have the Czech alphabet so only could write in those without haceks. That is ok. Very interesting!! http://www.vuapraha.army.cz/db/index.php Rosie in WA State On Jan 12, 2008, at 12:42 AM, jiri mlejnek wrote: > Dear List, > > if you write in the server <atlas.cz> the following: <Databaze cs. > legionáru z 1. svetové valky>(Databasis of Czech legionists during the > WWI), (the third position), maybe you can find relatives of your > ancestors. > > The other list contains some of the soldiers killed during WWII. > > Prijmeni = surname, to write with "haceks and carka's" in capital > letters. If you know - the birth year. If you write only the surname > the > list contains all (?) legionists with the mentioned name), mostly born > between cca 1870-1900. A good toy... > > Jiri Mlejnek > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Zagłosuj i zgarnij 10.000 złotych! > Wybierz z nami Internetowego SportoWWWca Roku. > Oddaj swój głos na najlepszego. - Kliknij: > http://klik.wp.pl/? > adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fsportowiec2007.html&sid=166 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >