Hello, I've come upon a brick wall! Researching g.grandparents: Johann & Mary (Hetz) Janotta (other spellings I've found-Janocha and Janotha). On death records & in obits, I've found Preheisen Austria; census lists Poland and Bohemia; other items list Germany as on his Naturalization Papers. Since then, I found that the town is now referred to as Prehysov in the Czech Republic. Their parish was Obersekersdan and post office, Hermannshintte (spelling maybe off) He was born in 1853, they married in 1879 Johann came to USA in 1882; Mary and son Wenzl in 1883 Settled in Peru, Huron County, Ohio Catholic Faith Mary's father was John and a brother Joseph in Germany I just don't know how to go about looking for German/Poland records. Any information anyone could send me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Elaine Lochner eeelane@verizon.net 2/25/08

Marc, I have read the respective part of the MA page once more. It contains the following sentence: "Spravni obvod archivu je vymezen uzemim kraju Jihomoravskeho, Vysocina a Zlinskeho s uzemim techto kraju k 1. 1. 2000." (The administrative district of the archives includs the territories of regions Jihomoravsky, Vysocina, Zlinsky to the date Jan 1, 2000.) I think this needs a nearer interpretation. Jiri P.S. I like this discussion. ---------------------------------------------------- Zobacz z nami relację z GALI OSCAROWEJ!! Zaczynamy w niedzielę po północy. Zaprasza film.wp.pl !!:) http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=www.oscary.wp.pl&sid=235

Yes, you are quite right sayng Dudin is in Bohemia but... in the page of MA is said the records of areas (kraje) Jihomoravsky, Vysocina, Zlinsky)are located in Brno. Maybe experienced geneologists on the list could help with their opinions? These are the dates from the page of Felix Gundacker <Ancestry research in the lands of the former Austrian-Hungarian Dual-Monarchy> DUDIN number 2758 former spelling of the village Dudin nowadays spelling of the village Dudin Parish attribution Branisov begin of Vital Statistics: 1747/1747/1747 former Parish attribution former judicial denomination (Bohemia & Moravia only) Humpolec former crownland Böhmen Respective archives Brno Jiri Mlejnek > I found the proof in case anybody else on the list needs to know where > Jihlava is. It says here that the town is located BETWEEN Moravia and > Bohemia. and I know that Dudin is West of that, so Dudin is definitely in > Bohemia. I don't know why the one person on the list said it was in > Moravia. > Oh well. Doesn't matter anymore. I know where it is. Here is the > article I > found. All about Jihlava. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihlava > > I've also been looking at nice photos of the province of Jihlava. Very > nice. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <skciw3@aim.com> > To: <bohemia@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Bohemia] Dudin > > > > John, > > > > The only town named Dudin and spelled that way that I am aware of is in > > the present Vysocina area of the Czech Republic. Certainly it was part of > > Bohemia. I would be surprised if someone could prove it was once part of > > Moravia and that archives would be in Brno. Below is the description dor > > Dudin and the coordinates. > > > > Mark Wicks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DudĂ­n > > > > > > 49°27' 15°24' > > > > > > > > E M U G > > > > > > > > Czech Republic > > > > > > 60.4 miles SE of Praha 50°5' 14°28' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: john.dvorak@sbcglobal.net > > To: bohemia@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 5:34 am > > Subject: Re: [Bohemia] Dudin > > > > > > > > Thank you Jiri. Very interesting information. I appreciate you telling > > us all > > f this. > > incerely John D in Michigan USA > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > rom: jiri mlejnek <grzybczyn@wp.pl> > > o: bohemia <bohemia@rootsweb.com> > > ent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:40:50 AM > > ubject: Re: [Bohemia] Dudin > > John & other Listers > > Dudin belongs today to district Jihlava, Vysocina area (partly Czechia, > > artly Moravia). Jihlava is a Moravian town, Dudin is a part of Czechia > > 18 km from Jihlava, direction Pelhrimov.) It must be close to the > > ormer border. > > ccording to Felix Gundacker the respective archives place was Brno. I > > ill come later to the page about Moravia archives. > > iri Mlejnek > >> DAAA! > > Moravia is part of the Czech Republic. > > > > Frank R. Plichta > > Galax, Virginia > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bohemia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bohemia-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On > > Behalf Of skciw3@aim.com > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:18 PM > > To: bohemia@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [Bohemia] Dudin > > > > > > John, > > > > > > > > Dudin is not in Moravia. It is in the Vysocina area of the Czech Republic. > > > > ? > > Mark Wicks > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: john.dvorak@sbcglobal.net > > To: BOHEMIA-L <BOHEMIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 8:15 am > > Subject: [Bohemia] Dudin > > > > > > > > > > I did not realize Dudin is in Moravia. That is interesting. 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Here are some dates to the new building of Moravia Archives Jiri Mlejnek MORAVIA ARCHIVES has its new building in Brno-Bohunice opposite to the Faculty Hospital (without address still but you can send the correspondence on the old one: Zerotinovo nam. 656 01 BRNO) The searching room is located in the 2. floor, room 224. Tel nr: 420 533 317 224 Mail: badatelna@mza.cz You come to the new MA from the Brno railway station with the tram nr 8, direction Novy Liskovec (station Osova), afterthen with the trolleybus nr 25 or bus nr 69,29,50 (abt 25 minutes). The MA is open: Mo 9 - 18 TU 9 - 16 WE 9 - 18 THU 9 - 16 FRI closed The copies of the archives documents can be ordered in another new building in Brno Stary Liskovec, 2. floor, room 223 Contact person: Marcela Otypkova The following areas (kraje) belong to Moravia Archives (MA) (15 counties) Jihomoravsky Vysocina Zlinsky The MA disposes of 60 km of Archives documents, 20 km in Brno, the rest in other Moravian localities. In Trebic and Zlin also exist searching rooms, in Kunstat (castle) and Kromeriz during the hot seasons (not in winter). About 40 km of records are partly damaged or menaces destruction. ---------------------------------------------------- Zobacz z nami relację z GALI OSCAROWEJ!! Zaczynamy w niedzielę po północy. Zaprasza film.wp.pl !!:) http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=www.oscary.wp.pl&sid=235

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Am looking for info re my two families. Franz Palensky, from Sedlec, Moravia, who arrived in the U.S. in 1873; and Franz Benes and his wife, Christina Hauser, who were married in Prague, and arrived in the US in 1872 with children. Any info wud be greatly appreciated! Madeline **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Your post distributed fine, Maggie. Real good to see you here. Do you want to share your names for the newcomers so they know about your research? I send hugs, Elaine > HI Elaine (and Pam) > How goes it. Haven't chatted in years. I've > tried to re-log onto the Czech > list but I never get any messages. Don't know > what I am doing wrong or if > for some reason, my protector won't receive > messages from a list? That > doesn't seem possible. I would like to get > back on the list to see what's > up with people and maybe find someone new > researching my names. Hope you > have been well. Maggie Smith in CA

HI Elaine (and Pam) How goes it. Haven't chatted in years. I've tried to re-log onto the Czech list but I never get any messages. Don't know what I am doing wrong or if for some reason, my protector won't receive messages from a list? That doesn't seem possible. I would like to get back on the list to see what's up with people and maybe find someone new researching my names. Hope you have been well. Maggie Smith in CA -----Original Message----- From: czech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:czech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ETM Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:47 PM To: pam sherry Cc: CZECH@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CZ] Czech mailing list test You came through today, Pam. Did you check the list archives to see if your mail posted yesterday? Elaine > Anyone there??? I never did see my email that > I sent yesterday come thru. > Pam S. > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You came through today, Pam. Did you check the list archives to see if your mail posted yesterday? Elaine > Anyone there??? I never did see my email that > I sent yesterday come thru. > Pam S. > >

Anyone there??? I never did see my email that I sent yesterday come thru. Pam S.

Here. Kim Spangrude On Feb 21, 2008, at 3:18 PM, pam sherry wrote: > Anyone there??? I never did see my email that I sent yesterday > come thru. > > Pam S. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

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Martin, Your email to Carolina came across to me - I hope you don't mind me writing to you. Would you have any knowledge of people living in Prehysov today? or Is their any book(s) to check on folks living their in about 1880? I am searching for Janotta (sometimes spelled Janotha or Janocha), Johann and Mary (Hetz) Janotta. They are my g. gparents who came over in 1882 and 1883 leaving from Breman. I have no information on their family who did not come. Mary had a brother Joseph and her father's name of John Hetz. Thanking you in advance for any information you may have to help me. Elaine Lochner - eeelane@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Pytr" <maxi@raz-dva.cz> To: <czech@rootsweb.com>; <virinapampa@yahoo.com.ar> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [CZ] dates Hi Carolina, If you wish I will decipher the town names for you. I am a genealogist from Czech Republic and I know to read old Czech and German scripts. All the best, Martin Pytr, CZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "virina virina" <virinapampa@yahoo.com.ar> To: <czech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:52 AM Subject: [CZ] dates Hi list: I have a certificate of baptism of my grandfather Otto Malek, says that my grand grandfather Bernat Malek was of Géjoész, Prague ( ¿?). My grand grandmother Maria Hlubucek, was of Esenbad. The letter is bad, written with ink pen. They can help me, to know tha cities or towns one is? Thanks. best regards Carolina --------------------------------- Tarjeta de crédito Yahoo! de Banco Supervielle.Solicitá tu nueva Tarjeta de crédito. De tu PC directo a tu casa. Visitá www.tuprimeratarjeta.com.ar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me to find the names of the parents or relatives of Martin MATL? Martin arrived in the Galveston, Texas port in 1903 on the ship Hanover from Breman Germany. Thank you. B

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Hi Carolina, If you wish I will decipher the town names for you. I am a genealogist from Czech Republic and I know to read old Czech and German scripts. All the best, Martin Pytr, CZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "virina virina" <virinapampa@yahoo.com.ar> To: <czech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:52 AM Subject: [CZ] dates Hi list: I have a certificate of baptism of my grandfather Otto Malek, says that my grand grandfather Bernat Malek was of Géjoész, Prague ( ¿?). My grand grandmother Maria Hlubucek, was of Esenbad. The letter is bad, written with ink pen. They can help me, to know tha cities or towns one is? Thanks. best regards Carolina --------------------------------- Tarjeta de crédito Yahoo! de Banco Supervielle.Solicitá tu nueva Tarjeta de crédito. De tu PC directo a tu casa. Visitá www.tuprimeratarjeta.com.ar

Martin: I have a friend who was born in Germany and her parents were born in the Czech Republic. The father is: Franz Josef EHMIG B. 12 02 1908 Sobenten (Sobedruhy, now) Czech Republic The mother is: Ella Maria Ehmig (Guenzel by birth) B. 01 30 1916 Obergraupen (Krupka, now) Czech Republic My friend has their birth certificates and has scanned them and given me a copy of them. Would you be so kind as to take a look at them and see if you can translate them for me. Thank you. Sarah McCray Kentucky, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Pytr" <maxi@raz-dva.cz> To: <czech@rootsweb.com>; <virinapampa@yahoo.com.ar> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] dates Hi Carolina, If you wish I will decipher the town names for you. I am a genealogist from Czech Republic and I know to read old Czech and German scripts. All the best, Martin Pytr, CZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "virina virina" <virinapampa@yahoo.com.ar> To: <czech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:52 AM Subject: [CZ] dates Hi list: I have a certificate of baptism of my grandfather Otto Malek, says that my grand grandfather Bernat Malek was of Géjoész, Prague ( ¿?). My grand grandmother Maria Hlubucek, was of Esenbad. The letter is bad, written with ink pen. They can help me, to know tha cities or towns one is? Thanks. best regards Carolina --------------------------------- Tarjeta de crédito Yahoo! de Banco Supervielle.Solicitá tu nueva Tarjeta de crédito. De tu PC directo a tu casa. Visitá www.tuprimeratarjeta.com.ar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CZECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 2:16 PM

Hello, I am looking for traces of ELKA JECKEL, probably from Dolina (today Ukraine) specialst in Cristal from Boheme, mother was Tchèque (LEA JECKEL born 18?? , died before 1918 - married to YAKOV (Iacob) FRIEDLANDER- father of WOLF born in Izkany, 25 November 1884. Wolf was married to SIKA Kraft, born 14 July, 1890 in Romania. Her parents wer HACI (?) CHAYA NEUMAN(N) and JANCU (JACOB) KRAFT. Thank you in advance, Marc Piel, Paris, France.

Hi list: I have a certificate of baptism of my grandfather Otto Malek, says that my grand grandfather Bernat Malek was of Géjoész, Prague ( ¿?). My grand grandmother Maria Hlubucek, was of Esenbad. The letter is bad, written with ink pen. They can help me, to know tha cities or towns one is? Thanks. best regards Carolina --------------------------------- Tarjeta de crédito Yahoo! de Banco Supervielle.Solicitá tu nueva Tarjeta de crédito. De tu PC directo a tu casa. Visitá www.tuprimeratarjeta.com.ar