Hi List ! In 1884, can anyone tell me how long the boat trip would take, from Bremen to New York City?? Regards, Mike in AZ

Dear Betty, The meaning is "Details about our organization" All the best, Martin Pytr, CZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <VONSKIPPER@aol.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:50 PM Subject: [CZ] Translation, please! > Hi List, > > Could anyone tell me what the following in Czech means? > > "Podrobnosti o nasi organizaci" > > Found this on a Web site, a person with one of the family names I am > searching for is listed there. > > Thanks! > > Betty Catherwood > > ______________________________ --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.593 / Virová báze: 376 - datum vydání: 20.2.2004

Dear listers! I just have published my new results about the genealogy of Senator John Kerry on my own domain: www.johnkerry.at - in German and English. News: - Benedikt Kohn was born in Klobouky, Southern Moravia, in 1824 - siblings and relatives of Siegfried Löwe (greatgrandfather of JFK) - siblings and relatives of Josefine Löw (greatgrandmother of JFK) - details With kind regards, Ing. Felix Gundacker professional genealogist for Austria, Bohemia and Moravia IHFF Genealogie Gesellschaft mbH Pantzergasse 30/8 Austria, A-1190 WIEN Tel = +43 1 369 97 29 Fax = +43 1 369 97 30 email: office@ihff.at http://www.ihff.at  

Dear Martin, Thanks very much for the Czech translation. Unfortunately I didn't write that much down so I don't know what the organization is :), but I certainly do appreciate your help. Sincerely, Betty Catherwood

If anyone would like me to send them attachments with the story from the newspaper, I would be happy to do so. Just email me at anton19542001@yahoo.com if you would like to read these interesting stories ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Ondracek To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:17 AM Subject: RE: [CZ] VANDY FOUND John, very glad for you that you have found your Vandy. Share your joy. Also share your sadness. Don Ondracek > -----Original Message----- > From: john.dvorak [mailto:john.dvorak@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:16 AM > To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CZ] VANDY FOUND > > > Hello all. Have to tell you all the great news. A kind person in > Janesville, Rock County, Wisconsin, sent me transcribed death record and 2 > articles about VANDY DVORAK, My long lost great uncle who I had been > searching for for SO LONG.. NOw the truth comes out as to how he died and > when he died! Horrible story I must tell you all, not one for > the weak of > heart to read at all, I'm sure of this. But at least I know how > he died. I > am very happy man right now, but sad at the same time, to have read about > how this man died. > > Sincerely > John Dvorak > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.624 / Virus Database: 401 - Release Date: 3/15/04 > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you > are making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to > delete the list address and add the individual's address. > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate for list discussion. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.624 / Virus Database: 401 - Release Date: 3/15/04

John, very glad for you that you have found your Vandy. Share your joy. Also share your sadness. Don Ondracek > -----Original Message----- > From: john.dvorak [mailto:john.dvorak@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:16 AM > To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CZ] VANDY FOUND > > > Hello all. Have to tell you all the great news. A kind person in > Janesville, Rock County, Wisconsin, sent me transcribed death record and 2 > articles about VANDY DVORAK, My long lost great uncle who I had been > searching for for SO LONG.. NOw the truth comes out as to how he died and > when he died! Horrible story I must tell you all, not one for > the weak of > heart to read at all, I'm sure of this. But at least I know how > he died. I > am very happy man right now, but sad at the same time, to have read about > how this man died. > > Sincerely > John Dvorak > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.624 / Virus Database: 401 - Release Date: 3/15/04 > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you > are making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to > delete the list address and add the individual's address. > >

Thank you Lorraine. I appreciate this John Dvorak ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorraine Moore To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [CZ] VANDY FOUND At 07:16 AM 3/28/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Hello all. Have to tell you all the great news. A kind person in >Janesville, Rock County, Wisconsin, sent me transcribed death record and 2 >articles about VANDY DVORAK, My long lost great uncle who I had been >searching for for SO LONG.. NOw the truth comes out as to how he died and >when he died! Horrible story I must tell you all, not one for the weak of >heart to read at all, I'm sure of this. But at least I know how he died. I >am very happy man right now, but sad at the same time, to have read about >how this man died. John, I am happy and sad for you about the finding of your long lost great uncle. But I know that you are glad to have the information that you have been searching for for so long. Lorraine Baton Rouge, LA ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== Please do not repost the whole digest when replying to mail. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.624 / Virus Database: 401 - Release Date: 3/15/04

are you the same Roger Kennedy who has done many documentaries on television? Just wondering. I know I've heard that name before ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Kennedy To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: [CZ] Moravian Marriages in Pennsylvania USA Hi everyone, This week I've added 10 new databases to my site, Awesome Genealogy! The new databases can be found here: http://www.awesomegenealogy.com/newstuff.shtml They include: Genealogical Data Relating to the German Settlers of Pennsylvania and Adjacent Territory, 1750 German, Austrian and Swiss States Moravian Marriages in Pennsylvania 1742 Moravian Marriages in Pennsylvania 1743 Moravian Marriages in Pennsylvania 1744 Killean, Ontario City Directory for 1871 Laurel, Ontario City Directory for 1871 Oustic, Ontario City Directory for 1871 Ponsonby, Ontario City Directory for 1871 1880 Census of Swinomish Natives in Washington State Regards, Roger Awesome Genealogy http://www.awesomegenealogy.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list address and add the individual's address. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.624 / Virus Database: 401 - Release Date: 3/15/04

At 07:16 AM 3/28/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Hello all. Have to tell you all the great news. A kind person in >Janesville, Rock County, Wisconsin, sent me transcribed death record and 2 >articles about VANDY DVORAK, My long lost great uncle who I had been >searching for for SO LONG.. NOw the truth comes out as to how he died and >when he died! Horrible story I must tell you all, not one for the weak of >heart to read at all, I'm sure of this. But at least I know how he died. I >am very happy man right now, but sad at the same time, to have read about >how this man died. John, I am happy and sad for you about the finding of your long lost great uncle. But I know that you are glad to have the information that you have been searching for for so long. Lorraine Baton Rouge, LA

Hello all. Have to tell you all the great news. A kind person in Janesville, Rock County, Wisconsin, sent me transcribed death record and 2 articles about VANDY DVORAK, My long lost great uncle who I had been searching for for SO LONG.. NOw the truth comes out as to how he died and when he died! Horrible story I must tell you all, not one for the weak of heart to read at all, I'm sure of this. But at least I know how he died. I am very happy man right now, but sad at the same time, to have read about how this man died. Sincerely John Dvorak --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.624 / Virus Database: 401 - Release Date: 3/15/04

Thanks, Frank! I enjoyed reading about your trip! Cecilia

There comes a time in every mans or womans life to show the progeny the ancestral homestead. Mine arrived last year in June. I took my entire family, we were ten in all, to the Czech Republic. Among us were four teenagers and we had expected total bedlam. To our surprise everyone took in the sites and views in Prag with sheer delight.They were fascinated by the old buildings, the atmosphere and the strange language, although in every restaurant visited, hotel and hostel we stayed in, english was spoken. Everyone had digital cameras and we took more pictures than we could possibly handle back home. A recent count showed we had taken 853 pictures. In fact there are still some that need reviewing and sorting. Our highpoint came when we arrived at our ancestral village of Bludov. We had made arrangements earlier with a retired schoolteacher who showed us the vistas and the old homestead of the Soural clan that had lived there since the mid sixteen hundreds. I am sure that more than one loose brick fragment was picked up around the house and made its way across the Atlantic and now graces the bedchamber as a good luck charm. At lunch we were treated to a fabulous traditional Czech dinner that included veprova, zely, kolatche, buchty, local beer and southern moravian wine. A truly memorable event. After dinner we were introduced to the choir director and the church organist who, accompanied on a piano board, proceeded to teach us a 19th Century village song."Okolo bludova tece voda" Everyone sang the words out loud. We recorded the effort and play it at family parties. We were then given a tour of the Zierotin Manor to which, during their lifetimes, our early ancestors were indentured.That too left an impression on our young folk. This was followed by a visit to the church where generations of our ancestors worshipped, were christened, married and received their last rites. For the young at heart a surprise was waiting. We were allowed to climb up the church bell tower and look at the clock mechanism that is set every morning to the exact time by the church Kaplan. The digital cameras were busy recording the vistas from the steeple, out of all four windows. Our oldest Grand daughter was allowed to practice on the church organ. Finally the mayor presented us with a document officially recognizing the visit to our ancestral village, signed and certified with the village seal. Framed, it now graces our dining room wall. A hefty cash injection into the church coffers left everyone happy. It was indeed a trip of a lifetime. Frank Frank Soural qlt@cyberus.ca

Vol I into New York page 158: Pivonka, Barb. ODER 1 June 1879 Pivonka, Franta ODER 1 June 1879 Pivonka, Vaclav, ODER 1 June 1879 Vol IV into New York page 122: Pivonka, Franz 30, Anna 19 Mathias 5 months, Bohemia, BREMEN 18 August 1863 Vol V into New York, page 121: Pivonka, Elisabeth 36, Bohemia, GRAF BISMARK, 6 May 1874 Piwonka, Math. 38, Anna 43, Joh. 16, Martin 9, Kath. 8, Dorothea 4, Bohemia, MAIN, 27 March 1880 Piwonka, Wenzl, 31, Barbara 26, Franz 40, Bohemia, ODER, 13 June 1879 Vol VI into New York page 169: Pivonka, Antonin 26, Franziska 28, Marie 7, Antonin 5, Vaclav 7 Josef 11 months, Kacov Bohemia; LESSING, 16 November 1885 Pivonka, Benedict 44, Marie 45, Marie 18, Thomas 16 Andr. 9, Bohemia, FRISIA, 30 June 1885 Pivonka, Joh. 34, Marie 34, Joh. 6, Austria, CIMBRIA, 31 December 1881 Pivonka, Joh. 60, Bohemia, CLAIFORNIA, 18 April 1885 Pivonka, Martin 15, Bohemia, WIELAND, 13 November 1886 Piwonka, Franz 40, Anna 35, Maria 10, Bohemia FULDA, 21 April 1883 Piwonka, M. 25, Austria, HABSBURG, 3 May 1882 Piwonka, Magdalena 52, Kath. 17, Austria, OHIO, 7 June 1881 Vol VII into New York, page 158: Pivonka, Aloise 16, Bohemia, EIDER, 1 July 1890 Pivonka, Antonia 18, Marie 16, Bohemia, SAALE, 14 June 1890 Pivonka, Barba. 44, Bohemia, EMS, 17 September 1889 Pivonka, Franz 45, Anna 40, Anna 17, Bohemia, SAALE, 23 March 1889 Pivonka, Josef 23, Tomas 22, Austria, COLUMBIA, 28 September 1889 Pivonka, Stepan 33, Straz Austria, SUEVIA, 1 January 1889; Wisconsin Pivonka, Wenzl 46, Rosina 46, Maria 18, Josepha 16, Wenzl 11, Thomas 7, Theresia 4 Josepha 2, Bohemia, WERRA, 12 August 1890 that's it in all 9 books, good luck, Maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lillian Bodker" <kidos4@webtv.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] Baca Lookup -- surname PIVONKA > Would appreciate anyone's help in looking up Josef Pivonka, and > Anastasia Pivonka in the Baca volumes for arrivals during 1875 to 1890 > period. > Another spelling could have been PIWONKA. > I do not know the port of entry. > Thanks for any help. > Lillian > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > Please do not repost the whole digest when replying to mail. >

Would appreciate anyone's help in looking up Josef Pivonka, and Anastasia Pivonka in the Baca volumes for arrivals during 1875 to 1890 period. Another spelling could have been PIWONKA. I do not know the port of entry. Thanks for any help. Lillian

Dear Janice, I live in Chandler, Az and just read your e-mail message today. I am also a list member and have ancestry around Prague, Bohemia (now Czech Rep.) I pulled up the Czech phone book for free and found one listing with my same last name......I am going to get the Czech to English dictionary (available at Barns and Noble or similar book stores) and write the address listed....their phone listing gave a map of his city and his full address (it was great!) I was unsure if an e-mail would reach them or what the fee would end up being. Did you also know the Mesa Mormon Genealogy Center has a Czech representative, she may be able to write or check you out a translation book for you to write into Czech language yourself (for no charge)...........good luck! The city I found my surname in is: Vysoka Libyne....Near Kralovice which is close to Plzen and Praha. Sincerely, Ms. Kris Durschmidt....Chandler, Az. > [Original Message] > From: Janice Solorio <jan@gbronline.com> > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 3/24/04 7:26:59 PM > Subject: [CZ] emails > > Can someone please tell me how to email people in the Czech Republic. I > found some of my Praveceks and Sladkys and would like to email them to see > if they are related to me. Also, I don't know Czech, would they be able to > read English? > Thank you. > > Janice in AZ > > ______________________________ --- Kris Durschmidt --- kristico@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

This is a forwarded message From: Vera Holman <loverangel@cox.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 26, 2004, 9:40:34 PM Subject: BACA Lookup- Sabo, Hospodor,Kudra, Baley,(balej) ===8<==============Original message text=============== Please may I have a BACA lookup for SABO ,HOSPODAR, KUDRA, BALEY(BALEJ) My folks claimed to have been living in Czechoslovakia. They got a visa, or what ever papers needed in Prague. Came to America in 1921. I really don't know how to approach this question I have in mind. I have a photo of my father in a plain military uniform. The question I have is what branch of the military or what country does that represent, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Austria, whn he was in during the age under 24 . .As far as I know his parents were Jan(John) and Ulara Timko Baley(balej) Bailley is what is written on my birth certificate.... Thank you for any assistance you can give me with is elusive family!!!!!! Vera NV My question is , how does one go about trying to locate a family that parents were in America , as my father was born in Loyalhanna, Penna.,4 August, 1896. Was told when he was just a lad the parents left PA. and went back to the old country. Where I do not know. I am trying to locate the town, or village where the grandparents and some of the siblings are buried? This has been a brick wall. ===8<===========End of original message text===========

Hi List, Could anyone tell me what the following in Czech means? "Podrobnosti o nasi organizaci" Found this on a Web site, a person with one of the family names I am searching for is listed there. Thanks! Betty Catherwood

In a message dated 3/25/2004 8:00:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, CZECH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: am in the process of planning a trip to the Czech Republic (southeastern Moravia) in late August Hi Jesse! My 2nd trip I went in August, there were alot of people, but I dont recall that I missed out on anything because of Czechs being on vacation. It does start to cool off a bit weather wise, compared to July, July is the hottest month, ive been told. And yes, you wont find alot of A/C in smaller hotels, so ask if they have fans/windows to open. Later in August would be better, you have Labor Day here, but no holiday there. Regards, Mike in AZ SWARTZ~SVARC / CERNY / HAJEK / HOSEK / HRABAC / KREISSINGER / CERMAK / PERGLA AZ / COAL CITY, IL / Lom U Mostu / Zloukovice / Sebecice / Duchcov / Praha

Charles, Many thanks for the huge list of names. I never expected that. I see a couple of possible matches on Maria and Anna Kos. The Kostohryz listings are not matching my information. I know my great-grandfather immigrated before Nov 1880. I still am interested in that listing for Franz Kostchranz in Volume 5, p. 78. There is just enough similarity in that name and my great-grandfather's to peak my curiosity. I'm hoping there might be some family members listed along with the date and ship. If you don't mind, would you please look that one up? Thanks for all your trouble. Joanne

Vol 9 p 84 there are several (actually 9 listings) into Baltimore: Kos, Anton, 18, Austria, HERMANN, 3 January 1888 Kos, Barba. 17, Alzbete 55, Bohemia; AMERICA, 18 October 1887 Kos, Franz, 38, Marg. 34. Bohemia; BERLIN, 5 June 1880 Kos, Franz 38, Marie 36, Josepha 9, Anton 8, Anna 5, Franz 3, Boh. 1/2 (6 months), Bohemia; BERLIN, 5 June 1880 Kos, Karl, 15, Bohemia; DONAU, 25 July 1888, Illinois Kos, Maria 19, Austria; HERMANN, 12 August 1880 Kos, Maria 19, Austria; HERMANN, 3 December 1888, Ohio Kos, Vaclaw 15, Bohemia; MAIN, 31 March 1887 Kos, Maria 20, Jan 10, Bohemia; MAIN, 31 March 1887 page 85 Kosova, Josepha 26, Josef 1/4 (3 months), Bohemia; DONAU, 25 July 1888, Wisconsin Kosowa, Anatzka 20, Stice Bohemia; SLAVONIA, 19 August 1891, Chicago Kostohryz, Jan 28, Kristina 33, Bohemia; STUTTGART, 19 August 1891 Kostohryz, Josef 17, Bojenice, Bohemia; WESER, 30 June 1895, Chicago Kostohryz, Vojteck 32, Bohemia; DONAU, 4 February 1887 Kostohryz, Franz 28, Rosalie 27, Josef 7, Josef ?, Maria 4 1/2, Bohemia; OHIO, 8 Sept 1883 Kostora, Johanna 28, Carolina 6, Chlement 4, K. 2 Miste Bohemia; GERA, 1 Oct 1892, Illinois Kostohriz, Franc 31, Austria, AMERICA, 26 July 1887 Kostohruz (?), Elise 35, Bohemia, LEIPZIG, 10 Sept 1880 Vol 8 into Baltimore: page 77: Kos, Franz 14, Bohemia: BALTIMORE, 14 July 1868 Kos, Franz 18, Bohemia, BERLIN, 5 July 1872 Kos, Wenzl 45, Maria 43, Bohemia; OHIO, 24 May 1879, Illinois Kostohriz, Franz 18, Bohemia; BERLIN, 21 May 1872 Kostohriz, Joh 41, Cathar. 33, Anna 18, Maria 14, Josef 9, Cathar. 5, Josefa 1/2 (6 mos), Bohemia OHIO, 7 May 1870 Kostohriz, Ths. 19, Bohemia, OHIO, 7 May 1870 Vol 7 into New York page 100 Kos, Maria 4, Vaclav 21, Franz 15, Bohemia; PHOENICIA, 10 June 1895 Kos, Mato 24, Bohemia, WERRA 12 August 1890 Kos, Vaclav, 17, Bohemia RUSSIA 23 March 1891 Kosova ? 28, Cholta Bohemia; RUGIA, 22 December 1891 Kosova, Anna 24, Bertha 30, Tachlovic Bohemia; NORMANNIA 6 August 1892, Illinois Kosowa, anetzka 20, Bohemia; SLAVONIA, 17 August 1891, Chicago page 101 Kostorycz, Marie 9, Bohemia; HAVEL, 22 December 1896 Kostorycz, alzbeta 20, Bohemia; HAVEL, 19 December 1895, Cleveland Kostohryz, Anna 20, Johann 5, Anton 4, Anna 2, Antonie 3/4 (9 mos), Marie 20, Austria, FULDA, 14 June 1887 Kostohryz, Frantiska 23, Austria; FULDA, 19 June 1888 Kostohryz, Josef 17, Bohemia, WESER, 27 June 1895 Let me know if you want me to list the others in vol's 1-6.....I got carried away with typing instead of just listing the few you asked for. I don't mind, but you may not want them or need them....ms ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Brown" <jb@tbcnet.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: [CZ] Baca Lookup--surname Kos, Kostchranz > Would some kind person please look up the following information for me. > I found some sketchy information on an ancestry web site regarding these > two surnames and I need to know a little bit more (if the information is > there). > In volume 9, p. 84 there should be a listing for Maria Kos, age 19 and > Anna Kos, age 5. Were they alone or were there other members of the > family with them? What was the date and ship name? All I have is > 1880. Any other information there? > In Volume 5, p. 78 there should be a listing for a Franz Kostchranz. > What other information does it give? Any other family members? This > is a long shot--my great-grandfather's surname was Kostohryz and I'm > hoping this might be him with a misspelling. > Many thanks, > Joanne > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without > permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use > Policy at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html. >