Looking for any help with or a Baca look-up for: Mathias/Matthew/Michael Wohrna; b.9/11/1851, Nepomuk Bohemia Wife, Marie nee Vodakova; b. 2/15/1857, Zahori Bohemia Children: Barbora; b. 4/29/1877, Nepomuk Juliana; b. 2/15/1879, Nepomuk Marie; b. 1/30/1881, Nepomuk Believe they most likely came into Baltimore between 1882 and 1886. Mike Martin

HI Annie That's an idea. I have several vintage photos showing ladies holding books, or with books beside them on a table. Is that the meaning? That they were able to read? Or with a Bible, that they were religious. That's interesting. Somehow this picture with the open letter in her hand and open envelope on the floor, doesn't strike me as that. I guess it will remain a mystery. The thing is why someone would want to commemorate it. The lady's expression is somber, but all vintage photos were that way. Nobody smiled. Millie

Hi, Listers. Now that you've gotten our interest up with all your correspondence, how about sharing a scan of the picture with the List. I for one would like to see it. Joe

In a message dated 4/30/04 11:04:16 AM Central Daylight Time, Mrbkdb112@cs.com writes: > have a mystery concerning a vintage photo (unidentified) that shows a > young > lady standing holding a letter and at her feet is the envelope,stamp showing > ,so I know it is the envelope. What is the significance of this? Does > anyone have any ideas? Picture looks like late 1800's or early 1900's. The > dress is > dark, maybe , black. Is this bad news from someone? Letter from a > serviceman > ? Has anyone seen anything like this before? Photgrapher is E & H Photo Co. > Celebrated Artists. No other identification > > Maybe like holding a bible or book, a way of showing the person was literate? Annie in Minnesota

Looking for any help with or a Baca look-up for: Mathias/Matthew/Michael Wohrna; b.9/11/1851, Nepomuk Bohemia Wife, Marie nee Vodakova; b. 2/15/1857, Zahori Bohemia Children: Barbora; b. 4/29/1877, Nepomuk Juliana; b. 2/15/1879, Nepomuk Marie; b. 1/30/1881, Nepomuk Believe they most likely came into Baltimore between 1882 and 1886. Mike Martin

Could someone do a few Baca book lookups for me? Thanks! Sandy Miller Anton Tomasek, b. Bet. 1837-1841, with Anna Tomasek, b. Bet. 1844-1849, and Anton Tomasek, b. Bet. 1866-1870 Residence: Rybnice or somewhere close to Plsen Date: Bet. 1870 and 1873 Destination: IL Frantisek Lavicka, b. ca. 1839-1840, with Marie Lavicka, b. ca. 1843, possibly with Frantisek Lavicka, b. Bet. 1871-1874 Date: Early 1870s Destination: IL Vaclav Lavicka, b. Bet. 1855-1856 Date: Early 1870s Desination: IL

Probably a "Dear Jane" letter. Frank Soural qlt@cyberus.ca

Thanks Roger. Hope you come up with something. I hadn't thought about the "celebrated artists" meaning anything. Maybe it does. In that light, maybe she got some great news of some honor bestowed upon her. My first thought was that it was a letter with news of a death. But, why would they want a picture of that? This may be something that was done in those times that is not done now. Looking forward to receiving any other ideas. Thanks..Millie

If it were a stereo view, I would say it was from a series portraying a brief story line ala notice of a death of a sweetheart. I have not seen any single photos of that type but they may exist. The "celebrated artist" notation also suggests a creative story line for the picture. I'll check further. Roger

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Hi List Members I have a mystery concerning a vintage photo (unidentified) that shows a young lady standing holding a letter and at her feet is the envelope,stamp showing ,so I know it is the envelope. What is the significance of this? Does anyone have any ideas? Picture looks like late 1800's or early 1900's. The dress is dark, maybe , black. Is this bad news from someone? Letter from a serviceman ? Has anyone seen anything like this before? Photgrapher is E & H Photo Co. Celebrated Artists. No other identification I'd like to have any ideas that come up. Thanks, Millie

My name is Alenka (Pacak) Nikolic. I wont to find my relations from Pacak family My great-grandfather , Ferdinand Pacak is wos colonist in Bosnia. He is born in Cz. , bat I dont know sity . My great-grendfather lived in Nova Topola ( Windhorst) nearli Bosanska Gradiska. He was farmer. He has Manufactory of Oil. The Family Pacak speak German?! 1939/40.Ferdinand Pacak emigrate in Germany. Ferdinand and Elizabet have 3 daughters -Johana (my grandmother),Vilhelmina ,Gertruda I write genealogy my family bat I do not have information aboudescent family Pacak. I wont too to meet half-brother my grandmother, Edvard Pacak .He is born in Germany about 1945. Thank you for any information about my family. Alenka

To Maggie, No I haven't seen the Verdigre Centennial Book. Everything I have I got on line. I have tried the Catholic Church there hoping it might give some family names. No answer. I need to go there I guess. Maybe Joe Tomasek married both women. The first wife may have died. I did correspond with the granddaughter of the Tomasek's for a while but she had the idea they were from Selecia. She had been adopted at birth and had only recently found her birth mother. She sort of had romantic ideas about the whole thing and it came to nothing. Another brick wall. Please do send me the Somr section off-line. I will e-mail my address to you. Thanks, Tymna

To Everybody.....even though it's small I finally have my ship manifest page from the SS Frisia, with my ancestors DVORAK on it. I'm a very happy man. Thanks to all who have helped me thru the years.....On July 8 or before I will have to unsub from this and all my groups, as i will be without a computer for that time. I bid you all peace But until then, bring it on! Sincerely John D ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie Oldham To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:49 PM Subject: [CZ] History of Czechs in Nebraska Tymna & Judy, History of Czechs in Nebraska (great resource!) is online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~neethnic/czechs/czechs.html Referenced page relating to Somr is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~neethnic/czechs/cz-pg97a.html All it says is that Anton Somr "removed to Beemer, Nebr." Have you seen the Verdigre Centennial Book (1887-1987), Tymna? There is a listing for Somr with a Dvorak & Podmolka connection... Here are the first two paragraphs. If you would like more, just let me know & I'll send you the whole section offline. "Stepan Somr was born on May 16, 1872 , in the village of Podmolka, county of Zbirov, Bohemia, to Frank and Ann Jelinek Somr. He had four brothers, Frank and Joseph of Verdigre, Vac and Anton of Czechoslovakia, and three sisters, Rose (Mrs. Joe TOMASEK )Anna (Mrs. Joe TOMASEK) and Mary Dvorak of Czechoslovakia {maybe a misprint?, the book says Mrs. Joe Tomasek for both Rose & Anna}. In 1889, at the age of 17 years, he came to America and settled in Saunders county, Nebraska, at Morse Bluffs. Here he worked as a farm laborer for about three years." My tie to Verdigre is through Frank HOLAN (also spelled HOLLAN) who immigrated in 1867 with his wife Katherina CHADIMOVA and children. They lived in Chicago for a few years. Katherina's parents were John Chadim and Anna PARISEK of Velky Jiren. Catherina died in Chicago in 1873. Frank HOLAN then married Clara PAVELKA who was from Kalave. They moved to Verdigre around 1877. Related surnames in this immediate family are KONICEK, ONDRACEK, STOURAL, and RUDA. Maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Vondra <vonward@txucom.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [CZ] Re: CZECH-D Digest V04 #163 > Tymna, > I found Anton Somr in the book History of Czechs in Nebraska pg 111. I dont > have the book so I dont know what it says. Do you know of this information? > Judy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TymnaV@aol.com> > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:02 AM > Subject: [CZ] Re: CZECH-D Digest V04 #163 > > > > Please help me with a problem I am having tracing my husband's mother's > > family. I will tell you what I know. Her name was Josepha Dvorakova.Her > fathers > > name was Frank Dvorak, Mother unknown Somr. > > She arrived here on the 19th of May,1921 on the New Rochelle from Bremen. > She > > was 20 years old. > > On the Ellis Island records I printed off she was sponsored by an uncle > named > > Anton Somr of Verdigree,NE., really a cousin, whom she was to marry. > Instead > > she came to Omaha, found a job and eventually married my father-in-law > Vaclav > > (James) Vacek who had emigrated earlier from Milcin, Bohemia. The records > show > > she was from Buciny, Podmokly. When I looked it up on a site about > Eastern > > European Political Geography it said it is or the area any way is called > > Decin. or Tetschen in German. It is in the Czech Republic, in Bohemia on > the Elbe > > River. It includes since 1950 the city of Podmokly or in German Bodenbach. > She > > had other relatives I found in Verdigree, her mothers sister, > > Anna Somr Tomasek and husband Joe and several children. They sponsored > Anton > > Somr. All leads in Verdigree went nowhere. Now I have hit a brick wall. I > know > > in the 70's she still had family alive in > > the area of Buciny Podmokly.Where do I go from here? She died in the 1950s > > and we know little about her or her family. Who do I contact short of > going > > there? Someone who has done this before > > please help me. Is there a book on this town? > > Thank you for your time. Tymna Vacek My E-mail is TymnaV@aol.com > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > Czech-L's webpage is at > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm > > > > > > > > ______________________________ ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== Czech-L's webpage is at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.668 / Virus Database: 430 - Release Date: 4/24/04

Tymna & Judy, History of Czechs in Nebraska (great resource!) is online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~neethnic/czechs/czechs.html Referenced page relating to Somr is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~neethnic/czechs/cz-pg97a.html All it says is that Anton Somr "removed to Beemer, Nebr." Have you seen the Verdigre Centennial Book (1887-1987), Tymna? There is a listing for Somr with a Dvorak & Podmolka connection... Here are the first two paragraphs. If you would like more, just let me know & I'll send you the whole section offline. "Stepan Somr was born on May 16, 1872 , in the village of Podmolka, county of Zbirov, Bohemia, to Frank and Ann Jelinek Somr. He had four brothers, Frank and Joseph of Verdigre, Vac and Anton of Czechoslovakia, and three sisters, Rose (Mrs. Joe TOMASEK )Anna (Mrs. Joe TOMASEK) and Mary Dvorak of Czechoslovakia {maybe a misprint?, the book says Mrs. Joe Tomasek for both Rose & Anna}. In 1889, at the age of 17 years, he came to America and settled in Saunders county, Nebraska, at Morse Bluffs. Here he worked as a farm laborer for about three years." My tie to Verdigre is through Frank HOLAN (also spelled HOLLAN) who immigrated in 1867 with his wife Katherina CHADIMOVA and children. They lived in Chicago for a few years. Katherina's parents were John Chadim and Anna PARISEK of Velky Jiren. Catherina died in Chicago in 1873. Frank HOLAN then married Clara PAVELKA who was from Kalave. They moved to Verdigre around 1877. Related surnames in this immediate family are KONICEK, ONDRACEK, STOURAL, and RUDA. Maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Vondra <vonward@txucom.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [CZ] Re: CZECH-D Digest V04 #163 > Tymna, > I found Anton Somr in the book History of Czechs in Nebraska pg 111. I dont > have the book so I dont know what it says. Do you know of this information? > Judy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TymnaV@aol.com> > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:02 AM > Subject: [CZ] Re: CZECH-D Digest V04 #163 > > > > Please help me with a problem I am having tracing my husband's mother's > > family. I will tell you what I know. Her name was Josepha Dvorakova.Her > fathers > > name was Frank Dvorak, Mother unknown Somr. > > She arrived here on the 19th of May,1921 on the New Rochelle from Bremen. > She > > was 20 years old. > > On the Ellis Island records I printed off she was sponsored by an uncle > named > > Anton Somr of Verdigree,NE., really a cousin, whom she was to marry. > Instead > > she came to Omaha, found a job and eventually married my father-in-law > Vaclav > > (James) Vacek who had emigrated earlier from Milcin, Bohemia. The records > show > > she was from Buciny, Podmokly. When I looked it up on a site about > Eastern > > European Political Geography it said it is or the area any way is called > > Decin. or Tetschen in German. It is in the Czech Republic, in Bohemia on > the Elbe > > River. It includes since 1950 the city of Podmokly or in German Bodenbach. > She > > had other relatives I found in Verdigree, her mothers sister, > > Anna Somr Tomasek and husband Joe and several children. They sponsored > Anton > > Somr. All leads in Verdigree went nowhere. Now I have hit a brick wall. I > know > > in the 70's she still had family alive in > > the area of Buciny Podmokly.Where do I go from here? She died in the 1950s > > and we know little about her or her family. Who do I contact short of > going > > there? Someone who has done this before > > please help me. Is there a book on this town? > > Thank you for your time. Tymna Vacek My E-mail is TymnaV@aol.com > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > Czech-L's webpage is at > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm > > > > > > > > ______________________________

Regarding "www.seznam.cz" -- there is no English translation. Would a list member please translate the word for "Mayor" and "Village" and "Literatur" so that we can email the Mayor with our inquiries regarding the Village Books. Lillian

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Joan, Sandy, Tina, Ron, Mel, Janice, Patricia, JuDi, Lillian, Gale, lmoore68, barb, billnjean, Lynn, Betty, Joanne, Janice Thanks for your request. I have printed your email and put it in my carry on bag. If I am in your village, I will either get the book (if there is one) or get you the address and cost of the book. You can also check the search engine at www.seznam.cz enter your village and the word "literatur" in the search box. As I have been told, the books are for sale at the Starosta (mayors) office. Usually there is an address on the village website to contact the mayor's office. Thanks again for letting me help in your search for our ancestors. Judy Vondra Jitka Vondrova

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you know what? Strange as it may seem, my great grandpa was a Vaclav DVORAK and one of his grandsons were born in LaCrosse WI.........INTERESTING article. Thank you for sending this (a long time ago) I did find death certificates for all of my great grandpa's boys. So I'm plugging along! John D ----- Original Message ----- From: Kristin Frish To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [CZ] Lookup in Habenicht's History Dvoraks in Wisconsin - p. 316 - "Later on, Vaclav Dvorak, a farmer from Nebuzely, came to Manitowoc County among the first colonists..." p. 349 -"It was published by an old local colonist, Vaclav Dvorak..." (It refers to a Czech newspaper published in La Crosse) If this is your guy, I can give you a bit more. Kristin --- "john.dvorak" <john.dvorak@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mine were in Grant COunty and Richland County > Wisconsin. > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== Please do not repost the whole digest when replying to mail. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.668 / Virus Database: 430 - Release Date: 4/24/04